Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 559.

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Quote from: The Avenger on March 31, 2014, 08:40:43 AM

So we have proof people won't see their Neptune until August/September/October/November/December?

I can't believe it Cry

I find it so hard to believe that kfc would mislead everyone and pretend they were still on track to deliver in Q2 Cry

Why would they do it? Cry

They've been SO honest up to now, not mining more than 5% of the hashrate they sold etc. They've kept all their promises to existing customers. They acted honestly and kept their customers informed on a weekly basis with those "Neptune progress" news updates we've all enjoyed to read.

We don't have 100% proof yet, but we will see.

Do you or anyone else know around how much hashpower did KnC sold with their Jupiters? I know that for Neptunes there were around 3600 units which means ~11880TH/s(3600*3.3TH). Am i right?

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Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:38:03 AM

They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

Hi Biffa,

do you have a link for the offer?

Thanks

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Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 08:41:00 AM

Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:38:03 AM

They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

thanks for clarifying.

Quote from: jelin1984 on March 31, 2014, 08:39:36 AM

They must offer at preorder customers Neptune
From today mining clouding

Because q1 is experired

it's not as though, they don't have the capability or capacity to do this now!

They aren't going to give away their hash until they have too, you know, because of greed. So we'll have to wait (or refund) until June 30th at 11:59pm and then we get our 3THs (and not a single GH more) Plan B hosted mining for exactly one year. That's it folks!

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Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:47:02 AM

Quote from: el_rlee on March 31, 2014, 08:41:45 AM

Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:38:55 AM

Quote from: el_rlee on March 31, 2014, 08:36:45 AM

Sorry for asking here, but couldn't find it... Are KnC miners running cgminer on OpenWRT? Does the interface look similar to the ones of Avalon and Antminer? Will the scrypt ASIC be similar probably?

No. No and I doubt it.

Thanks. But they are running cgminer on some embedded Linux? Where could I find some info?

Running it on a beaglebone, they have a web interface they made themselves. I think there is a git repository for their stuff. https://github.com/KnCMiner

Thanks. Is it safe to assume that I could start cgminer from a shell?

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Quote from: el_rlee on March 31, 2014, 08:41:45 AM

Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:38:55 AM

Quote from: el_rlee on March 31, 2014, 08:36:45 AM

Sorry for asking here, but couldn't find it... Are KnC miners running cgminer on OpenWRT? Does the interface look similar to the ones of Avalon and Antminer? Will the scrypt ASIC be similar probably?

No. No and I doubt it.

Thanks. But they are running cgminer on some embedded Linux? Where could I find some info?

Running it on a beaglebone, they have a web interface they made themselves. I think there is a git repository for their stuff. https://github.com/KnCMiner

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Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:38:55 AM

Quote from: el_rlee on March 31, 2014, 08:36:45 AM

Sorry for asking here, but couldn't find it... Are KnC miners running cgminer on OpenWRT? Does the interface look similar to the ones of Avalon and Antminer? Will the scrypt ASIC be similar probably?

No. No and I doubt it.

Thanks. But they are running cgminer on some embedded Linux? Where could I find some info?

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Quote from: Biffa on March 31, 2014, 08:38:03 AM

They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

thanks for clarifying.

Quote from: jelin1984 on March 31, 2014, 08:39:36 AM

They must offer at preorder customers Neptune
From today mining clouding

Because q1 is experired

it's not as though, they don't have the capability or capacity to do this now!

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So we have proof people won't see their Neptune until August/September/October/November/December?

I can't believe it Cry

I find it so hard to believe that kfc would mislead everyone and pretend they were still on track to deliver in Q2 Cry

Why would they do it? Cry

They've been SO honest up to now, not mining more than 5% of the hashrate they sold etc. They've kept all their promises to existing customers. They acted honestly and kept their customers informed on a weekly basis with those "Neptune progress" news updates we've all enjoyed to read.

And of course, their director of communications on the forum every single day answering everyone's questions, not running away when he found out they'd never deliver when promised.

Plan B anounced at the start of February and then an announcement in March claiming they taped out in February and were now just waiting for the chips to arrive. None of that seemed suspicious or deceiptful.

Who could have seen this coming?

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They must offer at preorder customers Neptune
From today mining clouding

Because q1 is experired

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Quote from: el_rlee on March 31, 2014, 08:36:45 AM

Sorry for asking here, but couldn't find it... Are KnC miners running cgminer on OpenWRT? Does the interface look similar to the ones of Avalon and Antminer? Will the scrypt ASIC be similar probably?

No. No and I doubt it.

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Searing, you think it is going to go down to $227 per BTC? I'd be surprised if it was that low.

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Best time to buy btc is now

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Quote from: Searing on March 31, 2014, 08:32:04 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:53:53 AM

Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 07:52:28 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:51:33 AM

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Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:48:56 AM

Quote from: xstr8guy on March 31, 2014, 07:34:48 AM

To lazy to link it but I just read a post in Mining Speculation that 20nm will be delayed until the end of 2014.

Just seen it now! Do you think it's real?

my sources were real enough.

Do you care to share who/where the information came from?

no sorry. their job would be at risk.

No worries. I wonder when they will update everyone Sad

Surprised that no one has posted it on their forum yet.

well that is interesting ...if the 20mm is that late due to probably chip mnfg issues (shades of BFL sitting on hands waiting for chip)....it would be 'tragic" if the 28mm Titan shipped first in that they (I think) could probably (I think) get the Titan out first

would make sense in they seem to be hyping that (to keep cash flow going) before annoucing a "hey guys you can virtual mine 3TH now for the rest of the year or wait for your equip? naw they'd prob still send the equip

anyway way BTC price is going down is it just me or with anticipated difficulty increase by the time we have even a virtual 3TH miner in our hand ..heck go 4Th...i gather you'd be able to buy more BTC at the current $450 price

this is a killer diff gonna go up next round prob 25% and BTC looks like it may go down 50%

"may you live in interesting times" "ancient Chinese curse

Searing

They offered two options, to keep your hardware order and be compensated for their lateness with cloud hashing "while you wait" so to speak.
Or swap your hardware order for a cloud hashing order completely.

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Sorry for asking here, but couldn't find it... Are KnC miners running cgminer on OpenWRT? Does the interface look similar to the ones of Avalon and Antminer? Will the scrypt ASIC be similar probably?

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Clueless!

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:53:53 AM

Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 07:52:28 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:51:33 AM

Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 07:51:02 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:48:56 AM

Quote from: xstr8guy on March 31, 2014, 07:34:48 AM

To lazy to link it but I just read a post in Mining Speculation that 20nm will be delayed until the end of 2014.

Just seen it now! Do you think it's real?

my sources were real enough.

Do you care to share who/where the information came from?

no sorry. their job would be at risk.

No worries. I wonder when they will update everyone Sad

Surprised that no one has posted it on their forum yet.

well that is interesting ...if the 20mm is that late due to probably chip mnfg issues (shades of BFL sitting on hands waiting for chip)....it would be 'tragic" if the 28mm Titan shipped first in that they (I think) could probably (I think) get the Titan out first

would make sense in they seem to be hyping that (to keep cash flow going) before annoucing a "hey guys you can virtual mine 3TH now for the rest of the year or wait for your equip? naw they'd prob still send the equip

anyway way BTC price is going down is it just me or with anticipated difficulty increase by the time we have even a virtual 3TH miner in our hand ..heck go 4Th...i gather you'd be able to buy more BTC at the current $450 price

this is a killer diff gonna go up next round prob 25% and BTC looks like it may go down 50%

"may you live in interesting times" "ancient Chinese curse

Searing

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Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 07:58:29 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:53:53 AM

Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 07:52:28 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:51:33 AM

Quote from: raskul on March 31, 2014, 07:51:02 AM

Quote from: lemonte on March 31, 2014, 07:48:56 AM

Quote from: xstr8guy on March 31, 2014, 07:34:48 AM

To lazy to link it but I just read a post in Mining Speculation that 20nm will be delayed until the end of 2014.

Just seen it now! Do you think it's real?

my sources were real enough.

Do you care to share who/where the information came from?

no sorry. their job would be at risk.

No worries. I wonder when they will update everyone Sad

Surprised that no one has posted it on their forum yet.

I'm led to believe it was 'mentioned upon' and instantly deleted. Undecided

Damn!

I'd have liked physical miners, but plan B is not that bad, at least I'll be saving on electricity prices I guess.

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Quote from: smoothrunnings on March 31, 2014, 05:12:57 AM

Quote from: Biffa on March 30, 2014, 03:24:08 PM

Quote from: smoothrunnings on March 30, 2014, 02:40:41 PM

Have you every bought co-location space in your life to store your own servers? They charge you per-circuit and not for the power you use. There is at least one state in the US that has the lowest power costs out of all the other states that would be a good place for setting up cloud mining sites. There was a story recently on YouTube of a guy who setup his own mining in this state; which they wouldn't name; in a co-location, he was making 8 million a week in Bitcoin mining and was using 1mw of power. (Yes..Mega Watt)

Have you?

They charge you for:

1. Amount of rack space
2. Data (fixed or 95th percentile)
3. Power (per Amp)

Yes.

#2. 90 ~ 95 percentile
#3. Is a flat rate per circuit, it's not if only only use 3Amp of your 20Amp 220v circuit you are billed for that. However if you shop around you can get the circuit cheaper at one colo's.

Its not in Europe, say everything else is equal you pay for a full rack with say 2TB bandwidth or 10Mb/s whatever you want. Then here you pay more depending how many amps you want in the rack. You can get anythign from 4 Amps to 32Amps per rack, although many limit you to 16 Amps.

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