Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 602. (Read 3050074 times)

Going by KnC's old numbers it was speculated you would need about 3500 watts to power a 4TH/s machine, if KnC bumped it up that high. At this point it's hard to say what the new number means, 43% less power, is that less than original predicted or less than what the 28nm wafer, or chip? So instead of being 0.7watts per GH, I guess its 0.57 watts per GH?

Using the new numbers, I would speculated that you will need 600 to 700 watts of power per 1TH/s. Regardless though I will be sticking my Neptune into a co-lo this way I don't have to worry about the added costs involved in cooling it and I will also able to run it on cleaner power, 200V.

What 40A to 80A at 230V to power one Neptune I don't think so.  Even 40A@110V sounds far too high as Bitmine can get ~1(GH/s)/~1W@28nm at the wall socket.

There is only speculation at this point as KnC has not released any final details yet. But it's likely going to require you to run your Neptune inside a co-location as you will likely need two to four 20AMP circuits to power one. In co-lo's you pay per circuit and not pay for the consumption of power.

Anyone know the power requirements for the Neptunes?  I have some coming in and i want to buy some power supplies before hand.  i can't really ask for a refund as i have others depending on me making bitcoins for them.

One theory I can believe is that pheonix1969 was a big KNC fanboy, so the FUDster's felt it their duty at character assassination to help further their cause.

have you got any proof that pheonix1969 was a scammer? If you have then just prove it and stop.

or were you offended by some dispute/remarks by pheonix1969 in the past and haven't got over it?

You're just making yourself look like someone not operating on all cylinders.  Let it go, enough is enough.

seems weird that my name would be repetitiously brought up wrt some sort of 'classic fudster' nonsense when all i have done is point out lies & liars.

it is not my doing or fault they were so vociferous, i merely came to point them out.

would it be better if they were left in peace to run amok among us??

seems that some would believe it to be so, i wonder why??

now that scammer1969 and his alter-ego brothers/mates have slunk off isnt it nicer & safer here?

i certainly think so, even if KnC still show us the same disregard they pretty much always have done.

it baffles me why some posters would prefer if the scammers were given free reign to just be cunts and even go so far as to defend them and/or offer them 'donations'

anyway, for 32 grand im entitled to voice my opinions, so put that in your pipe and dont smoke it, this is a public space!!

OTT & vicious, indeed!!

Well to those who are wondering at the refund process I got my refund for 13.2k for 2nd batch Neptune order from knc.

I just looked today not sure how long it took but I send and got a reply to my email with the bank reply was accepted by knc same day of 2/25/14
so today is 3/8/2014....again not sure when it came in yet just have the balance from the atm..but less then what is 11 days...not bad.


So anyway I am also still holding on for a knc miracle on the batch 0 customer appreciation order at $10,131.20 w/ship to USA...

hoping for one or more of the below:

1) 4 to 4.5TH as a compensation..(yeah I'm dreaming)

2) virtual hash 3TH staring March 15th or so till physical miner (see above) (1) arrives say april 15th (yep still dreaming big here is what I am!)

3) can full refund up to the day I can decide between a full refund for miner or virtual miner or whatever

4) and hope like hell that everyone else has dropped Neptune orders...and an avalanche (volcano whatever) destabilizing the KNC GH farm (er after I get my physical (see 1 above) miner!


yep that about covers it for my "in my dreams" scenario

any thing less then at least something kinda sorta real from the above and coward that I am I will punt and run away.....(we also serve who scamper and quiver in the btc universe)

but my FALSE courage stems from the fact I THINK  I have time to refund yet ..if I'm wrong and I can virual mine in March or get physical miner soonest so be it


so fence sitting yet 

Searing

Fun with numbers

@1440 cores per ASIC

Either 3 ASIC runnin 1Th/s (750MHz clock) or 4 ASIC runnin 750 Gh/s (520MHz clock).

Based on scant info I'd guess 2000 Watts @ the wall MINIMU for 3T.

3 ASIC is ~600 Watt per ASIC  (660 minus ~ 10% loss in the PSU)
4 ASIC is ~450Watt  per  (might be less with slower clock)

That is a lot of heat to pump thru 16cm^2 (based on current 4cmx4cm  heatspreader on 5.5x5.5cm part).
Time to relearn thermal formulas for more fun.

If they go with 5x5cm heatspreader it's 25cm^2.

The largest 'common' heatsinks that I am familiar with are 50mmx50mm FWIW.

Plenty to argue about for the optimists AND the pessimists !

My current plan is to stay in line and take delivery!
/puts on flame proof jammies

YMMV

Have your lackey flogged. He don't know his champagne!

I think I saw it in the BlackArrow thread. I know it was from Global Foundries, that their average was 49 days from tapeout to a delivered package. What I don't recall was how long from wafer to package. I think it was ten days. What I couldn't recall was where I saw it, or I'd have posted a link. I recall the number quite well, because it's odd that it would be odd.

So when they are going to launch that cloud?

Well lets hope KnC does the right thing and comes out with a press release at the end of this money for the people who are still on the pre-order list for the introductory and B1 orders explaining why things are delayed, if nothing ships.

Divergent opinions are a great thing. There are a lot of very talented, smart enterprising people involved in this. We all may not agree on everything and I'm glad that we don't, but in the end we all are trying to look out for each other. All miners have is each other at times - so HUGZ to everyone! LOL!

I have an opinion. There are no official knc representatives on this forum, so you should take anything you read here with a pinch of salt. Anyone with 2 braincells should get that without having to be told.

KNC employ about 40(?) people, but they can't find 10 minutes out of their day to update customers on here? Pure contempt for their customers, that's what that shows.

I think KNC *don't give a damn* about bitcoin, for many reasons. But what could be stronger evidence then they force wire transfer refunds on customer who paid in bitcoin??

That is not FUD. That is my opinion.

This a forum for discussion.

Discuss, but don't try tell me what opinions I should have.

And this is the knc thread, not the "chat about Avenger thread".

So keep it on topic  

Yes people can do what they want. Maybe some want to be seen as a forum hero? Some people are angry or bitter and want to spread hate.

Have you even got a life or is it your day job to spread FUD on KNC. 

With these transfer fees we need a new banking system! :-)

Totally.

You know what really bugs me? KNC claim to support bitcoin, but force everyone to accept refunds via wire transfer - the total anathema of bitcoin.

If they BELIEVE in bitcoin and are a bitcoin company, EVERYTHING should be transacted in bitcoin. End of.

They like it when they get paid in bitcoin - they pay zero fees.

But they are happy to fuck their customers the other way around and force them to swallow all the wire transfer fees, so it doesn't cost them anything to do business.

Bunch of lying, greedy assholes lining their pockets with no interest in supporting crypto currencies, only profiteering, nothing else.

Sending the original payment for a Neptune by bank wire transfer, plus KnC taking out of the refund their bank's wire transfer fee plus my bank's incoming wire fee in the end has cost me $82 for the pleasure of doing business with KnC.

With friends like this, who needs enemies?