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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 694. (Read 3050075 times)

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January 27, 2014, 03:28:10 PM

Considering Mercury's are going for $1,500-2,000 on ebay, you could just get one of those and use the mining module. Or sell it.

 Thanks for pointing that out to me. I might have to go that route. I dont go to e-bay much, I had not thought of it.
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January 27, 2014, 03:26:35 PM


Roll Eyes Believe what you want man. I suppose the network hashrate isn't going up either right?

obviously you follow your own advice.. and nothing like throwing in another non sequitur

please go back on your meds
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January 27, 2014, 03:15:23 PM

Seems a little high to me, but you probably wont find another one. I might actually have a need for that but wont know until I dig deeper. It would hurt me mentally to pay 1000.00 but I would probably do it because of the scarcity.

Regards

Considering Mercury's are going for $1,500-2,000 on ebay, you could just get one of those and use the mining module. Or sell it.



They ran the machine for days on a publically-verifiable pool ... This is old news, discussed like 20 pages back.


another lie.. it was up for like 5mins

Roll Eyes Believe what you want man. I suppose the network hashrate isn't going up either right?
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January 27, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
Simple. Manufacturers need to stop this pre-order crap that drags on for endless months. End of problem.

Yes! Any company that has product for sale immediately with solid characteristics and with a competent team behind it will swipe away everybody else.
In fact, if even Cointerra was silent through the whole ordeal, but suddenly released Terraminer en masse at 1.6th/s for $10k, they would have sold 10 thousand of them or more. I wonder why nobody else thought of doing this instead of pathetic preorders.

See here for an excellent explanation of preorders from deathandtaxes: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3936006

I think this was posted a few pages back but i can't find it so here it is again
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January 27, 2014, 03:02:32 PM


They ran the machine for days on a publically-verifiable pool ... This is old news, discussed like 20 pages back.


another lie.. it was up for like 5mins
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January 27, 2014, 03:01:01 PM

Seems a little high to me, but you probably wont find another one. I might actually have a need for that but wont know until I dig deeper. It would hurt me mentally to pay 1000.00 but I would probably do it because of the scarcity.

Regards
soy
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January 27, 2014, 02:59:57 PM
please knc


i want upgraded module Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Sorry, but KNC is busy protecting their customers' share of the network. (Protecting the share from increasing)

Yes.  Static isn't but rather falling behind.
legendary
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January 27, 2014, 02:10:35 PM
i think that price is fair enough
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January 27, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
Upgrade modules will still piss people off, which rigs will they be compatible with? The past ones were Nov only weren't they?
This is the main reason I went with KNC, the modular design that could be upgraded. Turned out that was shite. Never got the chance.

This is also one of the primary attractants for me as well. They were still listing their products, including the Neptune, as modular designs with full upgrade capability, up until recently when I pointed out that they were advertising as modular despite not selling any modules.

They took that off pretty quick once it was pointed out ...

Legally speaking, the first 2 batches of Neptunes were sold under the guise of upgradability via modules. SOO..........
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January 27, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
Guys, what do you think is a realistic price on the master controller board with the beaglebone?
A friend of mine bought a miner from phoenix some time ago and Phoenix gave a 2nd controller board for free, which my friend lend out to me to use with my 4 upgrade modules I bought from KNC.

Now he wants to sell it and is offering me to buy it, but because I plan on selling the miner soon I wonder:
should I buy the board from him to keep the miner complete and sell it as it is?
or give it back to him and sell it as Upgrade modules only?

I wonder what a fair price is? It's a very hard to find component, yet is it unknown if anyone actually needs it at the moment.
Is $1000 a realistic price?
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January 27, 2014, 01:04:12 PM
Upgrade modules will still piss people off, which rigs will they be compatible with? The past ones were Nov only weren't they?
This is the main reason I went with KNC, the modular design that could be upgraded. Turned out that was shite. Never got the chance.

The amusing part of all ASIC company sales is that if these rigs were any other item of half the value sold for XBT buyers would insist on ESCROW. Part payment would make more sense too....they easily cover dev costs with half the RRP....but they always limit batches and create scarcity, then a while later run another batch just as scarce, which leaves customers no choice but to bite that hook or swim away.

As for new companies releasing tempting rigs, no-one knows their story until someone goes to look, and it seems to me that people here are all over the globe so someone will be close to most companies. Instead of crucifying each other and risking scams, how much easier would it be to pay whoever is closest to go look? It would cost peanuts per donor and if it were to become the norm to get a visit who would bother attempting a scam ? There's no reason to refuse one for a legit company. For me to pop to Cambridge on a choochoo would have cost about 100 quid, there must be people closer than me by some margin. That's nothing spread between a dozen or more interested people is it? To be sure? Compared to the losses ?

Sad to hear Pheonix lost to this, and sadder to see the libel aimed at him.







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January 27, 2014, 01:03:19 PM

It's not like there's anything else going on in here.. certainly not KNC updates.

While that may be true, people come here for news about KNC and having to wade through mindless rants, electrical wiring classes and other horse crap is just wrong.

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January 27, 2014, 01:01:10 PM
please knc

i want upgraded module Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
If you want one, you need to go to Stockholm airport and storm this airplane

legendary
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January 27, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
please knc


i want upgraded module Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Sorry, but KNC is busy protecting their customers' share of the network. (Protecting the share from increasing)
legendary
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January 27, 2014, 12:27:04 PM
please knc


i want upgraded module Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
legendary
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January 27, 2014, 11:39:06 AM
Simple. Manufacturers need to stop this pre-order crap that drags on for endless months. End of problem.

Yes! Any company that has product for sale immediately with solid characteristics and with a competent team behind it will swipe away everybody else.
In fact, if even Cointerra was silent through the whole ordeal, but suddenly released Terraminer en masse at 1.6th/s for $10k, they would have sold 10 thousand of them or more. I wonder why nobody else thought of doing this instead of pathetic preorders.
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January 27, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
total bullshit.. no wonder you got scammed on satoshi dice

for what it's worth, i've won more than i've lost on satoshi dice. I wasn't the idiot who lost 50BTC in one day on satoshi. I also don't lose in casinos. I'm also not popular at them because of that reason. But damn if the drinks and food aren't worth it.

they said they have to do a board redesign to try for 2Th.. any firmware changes is just tinkering

Board redesign and firmware, and they said they would take care of their customers. It still doesn't matter considering they're days away from shipping a more powerful chip than KNC.

they are much farther away than 15%.. and where has one run stable for even an hour?

85% of 2th is 1.7th. They have the system running between 1.6 and 1.7. Considering most ASIC equipment has a 10-15% variance between design and production, this is acceptable. Especially considering 1.7TH the first half of February is worth more than 2TH the last half of February. Time to market.

all boxed up before UL testing? sure

You can put the stickers on the boxes before it's certified, provided they're not shipped.

Regardless of the nuances of this discussion, KNC has failed to uphold its protection commitment to its customers. They've had 45 days to do it, and are still dragging their feet.

THAT is the point I'm making.
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January 27, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
Hedging bitcoin with the KnC machine is what probably happened, true. I am not convinced that timing was right.
Besides, Neptune 1st batch was sold for $19,100 on Ebay yesterday. I expect ebay premium to increase as we get closer to production.
There is quite a large difference on a trade being "sold" vs. "settled"
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