Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 763. (Read 3050073 times)

.... Only a question of liquidity - Cash flow management is not a higher art....  

I think KnC will exactly face that problem - The second they offer Jupiters (which I doubt they will do) - they are going to face significant amount of Neptune refund requests. At least me - I would dump all my "somewhen" in Q1/Q2 Neptunes for "in-hand" Jupiters.

Jupiter is a proven product - Neptune not.

de_ixie

.............Hi ...... Ive got 2 Neptunes coming..................and there's No Way I'm going to let anyone else get them ...............(I would lose money) .............But if KNC wants to protect my existing hashing power ................then sell me a Jupiter .......pretty please

Pete

don't get me wrong... I never wanted refund, and never asked for one.  I have only one Neptune ordered and paid for in first customer only batch and I wouldn't want to lose that.
I just remember someone (or two) here actually posted just after announcement of 'Jupiters going on sale by KNC and asking us to keep coins handy' that they had put in for a refund of one or two of their multiple Neptune orders.  I think that's what caused KNC to rethink and retract new sales of Jupiters.  These guys know what I'm talking about (I'm going to mention  ) and even post here about keeping us posted about outcome of the refund.  

I don't really care now, even thou I would of bought a Jupiter or 2 if they were to be sold again.   I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think we're gonna see Jupiters any more.  

Oh well easy come easy go.

.............Hi ...... Ive got 2 Neptunes coming..................and there's No Way I'm going to let anyone else get them ...............(I would lose money) .............But if KNC wants to protect my existing hashing power ................then sell me a Jupiter .......pretty please

Pete

This exactly what I mean, you think KNC will sell Jupiters now with a comment like this...  No chance...

If I were KNC I would reject anyone buying Jupiters that asked for refund of Neptunes.. full stop..  You think they are stupid and want to lose money

.... Only a question of liquidity - Cash flow management is not a higher art.... 

I think KnC will exactly face that problem - The second they offer Jupiters (which I doubt they will do) - they are going to face significant amount of Neptune refund requests. At least me - I would dump all my "somewhen" in Q1/Q2 Neptunes for "in-hand" Jupiters.

Jupiter is a proven product - Neptune not.

@Merv77:
When you get your Neptune refund (in $), new Jupiters will be sold out (almost 100% if Knc announces today and starts selling tomorrow).
Do you want to do that?

Cheers,

@Merv77:
When you get your Neptune refund (in $), new Jupiters will be sold out (almost 100% if Knc announces today and starts selling tomorrow).
Do you want to do that?

Cheers,

KNC was just quoted at CES saying they are responsible for 70% of the network right now... 

Merv

Good points

Bottom line , we the long term re-investors will choose our re purchasers\manufacturers based on the company that producers the best machines at the best times . KNC is right now is that company . Soon we will have proof of other companies products products and services . We will study and weigh up different reports .

The company which makes  better decisions , products and keeping to their promises (without being missleading) in the long run will gain a bigger market share of the sales and therefore greater profit margin in the long term  . Which is basicly is  why we too are investing as  ......bottom line greater  profitability in the long term .

I believe KNC have a long term view  in mind as well as short term and they know we do as well ...........The long term profitability is getting as much hashing power in quality machines with a reputable manufacture.........those who acheive that ( on both sides purchaser and manufacturer) They will be the ones to be the most profitable .  

I agree, KNC have to weigh up both sides  , but I think the long term view out weighs the short term view

Pete

arousedrhino  ( with respect)

KNC  made the Protection Statement   to re assure  their customer base , so we would purchase more Miners from them . This statement to me is a promise that if I would take a risk\investment through KNC, they would  make decisions (as in releasing more miners to me ) in my best interest , so my  investments would be protected .

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We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

Thanks
KnCMiner Team

                           
As well KNC said

As it looks like our struggling competition may eventually ship before our Network protection period has finished, we may be in a position to release Jupiter’s and possibly upgrade cards which we will ship from stock.
If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick.

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When any Business makes these assurances and I do invest or re-invest because of that promise , I expect that business to keep their word ...........or face some conserquece (all investors hate being played)

There doesn't need to be any Confirmation.

 Just let KNC keep their word .........That would be the smart move

Pete

Where did they confirm that they would be selling Jupiters by now. KNC never made such a statement so you can't hold them to that statement.

if KnC sells Jupiters now it would be like a huge ..l.. to everyone that bought a neptune.

Unless they manufactured 14,000 Jupiters, I'd say that's bullshit.

See my math in a previous post.