Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 767. (Read 3050073 times)

I think you're right.  I don't have a Nov. Jupiter.  My Merc was very efficient and the add-on module less so but the two use 361watts at the wall.  Using these numbers and a factor of 11x I get 3135 watts or 26amps@120VAC or 13.6amps@230VAC.

Using the first module as a guide, the more efficient, I get 2156watts - that's 70% of 22x the Merc.

My previous calculation of 2000watts was using the Merc stats.  This is likely a mistake because at 20nm there will be a higher probability of an impurity triggering activity at a gate, misfiring, so higher errors which will draw power.

The challenge is that even at 3 BTC the buyer is perhaps -0.5BTC ROI.. It's all speculation either way though..

Flash auction til tomorrow for an October upgrade module that never made it into my Saturn, now Jupiter. Came straight as an RMA from KNC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/fast-auction-1-kncminer-october-upgrade-board-1-new-arctic-freezer-i30-401036

Thought it would get more attention here.

November jupiters pull around 850 watts, but a Neptune will be at least 5x as fast.

A Neptune is 30% more efficient, so a back of the napkin calculation shows that a Neptune at 3TH will draw around 3000w. If knc over delivers and the Neptune is 4TH, we're looking at some scary power draw numbers unless knc also over delivers on power efficiency.

Yes.  So, a supply from an established manufacturer, installed.

Your discounting the time and money needed for the certifications etc for shipping a miner with a PSU, vs sourcing a pre certified PSU like CT/HF

So how many watts do the nov jupiters pull? KnC said there would be about a 30% drop in elecricity usage. I'm assuming that will be based on Nov numbers.

This will be an important product line.  If they design their own and build it in or if they design around specs of a single manufacturer's power supply perhaps having that company run a line of supplies specifically for the Neptune that KnC can install before shipping, they may feel more secure and realize fewer customer screw ups.

Heck, an F.X.Boch deisgned the switching supply for a switching-servo-amplifier for PMI Motors back in the late 1970's a division of Kollmorgen so they could probably get licensing from Kollmorgen.  It was an elegant approach.

You mentioned you sent 20 emails to customer support of a russian site which one sentence in russian would of gotten your reply that as a US resident you are very limited. If you aren't a US resident or at least know someone else who isn't then you can quickly put USD in within 24hours

it's not the type of money, it is the starting point and currently this answer is plastered on their website in english when you go to perform a transfer

that is why I said the hand holding comment

PS--as of now, it looks like they took off the bank transfer option (at least for me since I don't use an ID verified account and funded via OKPAY last summer)

IM betting on KnC not including Psus... looks like we will need a minimum of 2x 1300w or higher to be safe.

Think I'm going to rent some warehouse space off a friend and build a mini data centre for my Neptunes. Hopefully they'll be the same size as the Jupiters so I can build some cabinets on those dimensions.

I'm reading the discussion about the Neptune power draw.

Now I feel myself lucky. I have 3x120amp at 240volt.

Thank god I made in this way....

Hosting for somebody? 

My friend, I have been on this forum longer than you and I have been mining BTC longer than you. With that said - I'm most certainly not looking to get rich quick. I asked very simple questions and did not bother reading all 1,000+ pages of this thread. My prior experiences using search on this forum have returned poor results, thus I opted to skip searching this time. Unlike you, I don't have time to spend 30 days of my lifetime on this forum.

For those of you that did answer my questions - thank you!

I suspect each Neptune will take 2 to 4 power supplies to run unless Knc ends up including a custom power supply.

I don't know.  My pre-purchase assessment based on information I read a month before led me to believe it could but re-reading the specs, probably not.  I'm guessing best case for 3000GH/s will be 2000 watts.  That's 16.6 amps at 120VAC.  Kitchens often have 12 gauge good for 20 amps but an office, bedroom or living room will more likely be wired with 14 gauge good for and having breakers rated at 15 amps.  Run it in the kitchen, heat tea in the microwave and breaker will pop.  And if the GHs is real good and well above 3000 then expect more wattage/current.  One can wire a pair of 15 amp breakers from separate phases and get 230VAC then wire a 230VAC socket and add a 230VAC plug to the Neptune or Neptune power supply depending and draw only 8.7 amps on each line which I'll probably do.

I say that's what I'll probably do as I had added a 15 amp breaker pair with a pair of 14 gauge romex for AC and whatnot in the living room.  Should have gone with 12 gauge and 20 amp but this was before I had power hungry miners.  The double breaker, as there are limited free breaker spaces in my box, are probably both from the same phase (or line if you prefer although if you put an oscilloscope probe on each line and they display out of phase as they will I'd call them phases) is most likely from a single phase.  I'll have to go in, remove the double (two ½ size breakers) and put in a double breaker that connects to both L1 and L2 (both phases) or leave the double ½ size breaker in place with its two 14-2 gauge romex and add two 20 amp breakers and run two 12-2 romex adding two circuits to the living room.  From those I can take out 230VAC to a plug or run a single Neptune on each.

I was getting around 800-810 prior, 95.8% roughly. Every few GHs counts long term - glad it helped some of you

Moreover, this discussion is off-topic for this thread, and for this subforum.

Take it over to Service Discussion please.

can anybody help me get a 0watt Die up and running 

I've been running on BTC Guild since October and have a consistent %99.7.  What were you getting previously?

P69, news flash.... no one wants to do business with Americans thanks to the IRS and our banking regulations. okpay and egopay are quick ways to get money into btce if you're not in the us. btce supports usd in 24 hours or so.  quit whining and go look into transfering money there through a another bank or intermediary. as a us citizen you are going to have to get creative on how you move money around. a good place to start is to look into the companies that they accept usd deposits from and work backwards to where you want to send it from. spending time creatively like that instead of calling ppl names in this forum might be a better use of your time and ours.