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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 764. (Read 3050073 times)

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gotta let a coin be a coin
January 08, 2014, 12:33:02 AM
if KnC sells Jupiters now it would be like a huge ..l.. to everyone that bought a neptune.
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January 08, 2014, 12:31:57 AM

arousedrhino  ( with respect)

KNC  made the Protection Statement   to re assure  their customer base , so we would purchase more Miners from them . This statement to me is a promise that if I would take a risk\investment through KNC, they would  make decisions (as in releasing more miners to me ) in my best interest , so my  investments would be protected .

                          ...........................................................

We would like to state that If any of our competitors continues to add large amounts of hashing power to the network during December, January or February. We will continue to release our devices as competitively priced as we can to protect our customers share of the network.

Thanks
KnCMiner Team

                           
As well KNC said

As it looks like our struggling competition may eventually ship before our Network protection period has finished, we may be in a position to release Jupiter’s and possibly upgrade cards which we will ship from stock.
If we do have more items to place in the shop for our 28nm range, we will announce this via one of our newsletters which will contain the time and date that they will go on sale. So keep some coins handy as we expect them to go quick.

                               .......................................................

When any Business makes these assurances and I do invest or re-invest because of that promise , I expect that business to keep their word ...........or face some conserquece (all investors hate being played)

There doesn't need to be any Confirmation.

 Just let KNC keep their word .........That would be the smart move

Pete

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January 08, 2014, 12:30:18 AM
Well bitfury has been selling 3000 chips on a reel since August. BFL, Avalon, cointerra and HF are also said to sell chips.
No reason KnC couldn't have sold several thousand chips to private buyers.
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January 07, 2014, 11:35:50 PM
KNC was just quoted at CES saying they are responsible for 70% of the network right now... 

Unless they manufactured 14,000 Jupiters, I'd say that's bullshit.

See my math in a previous post.
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January 07, 2014, 11:11:27 PM
Sounds like for the "first time", they're floundering on their word. A month ago they confirmed they would in fact be selling Jupiters by now (actually, by now they should've been shipped). Now they're quiet.

Either they're releasing the Neptune much earlier than anticipated, like next month, or they're simply going to ignore their word.

Where did they confirm that they would be selling Jupiters by now. KNC never made such a statement so you can't hold them to that statement.
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January 07, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
KNC was just quoted at CES saying they are responsible for 70% of the network right now... 
legendary
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January 07, 2014, 10:53:11 PM
www.kncminer.com and their forum down now or I got problem with their connections?

Anyone please confirm!

It's up but it appears slower than usual.

That's because they just made some changes to the site..............




Reminds me of these days!


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January 07, 2014, 09:55:36 PM
www.kncminer.com and their forum down now or I got problem with their connections?

Anyone please confirm!

It's up but it appears slower than usual.

That's because they just made some changes to the site..............

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January 07, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
I would respectfully have to disagree with Soy and Noodle .

The promise or Statement  was based on   "Protect our customers share of the network."
............and the the condition was   "Any of our competitors  continues to add large amounts of hashing power"


I believe that the continues growth of the diff is directly due to our competition continuing adding large amounts of hashing power . If our competition had added "Small" amounts of hashing power the diff per month would only be rising by 30% per month
As this diff rises there should be clear reducing rise\curve

As it stands the diff is rising by 60 to 70 % per month . The would definetley be showing a larger reduceing curve if there was only small amounts hashing being added .

Am I wrong ? .............What do the rest of you guys think ?

Pete
soy
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January 07, 2014, 08:53:46 PM
The power requirement of the Neptune isn't an easy sell.  If I were a competitor and realizing if I ship real quantity and power it will trigger a Jupiter sale response by KnC, I might consider doing a BFL with some backdoor deals and machines to family and friends but leave the majority of my customers in the lurch.  KnC might see the lack of major hash addition all at once as allowing a better chance to sell Neptunes - they wouldn't be their own competition if that makes any sense.

It would be a strange turn of events if the competition is lining the pockets of employees, family and friends with their product hashing at a  lower total net hashrate while giving their customers excuses and the only thing that would get them off the pot is if KnC started reproduction and sale of Jupiters. (The kind of logic a Bush spin-doctor would love.)
soy
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January 07, 2014, 08:47:15 PM
Either that or Hashfast didn't ship, Cointerra haven't shipped so the need to keep up right this minute with adding more hashing power didn't materialise - so no requirement
 to sell more Jupiters.

I agree.  We were expecting a major jump in network hashrate that didn't happen but this steady up slope of hashrate and dwindling of returns continues - apparently just not enough in their eyes to justify production and shipment of new Jupiters.
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January 07, 2014, 08:14:20 PM
Either that or Hashfast didn't ship, Cointerra haven't shipped so the need to keep up right this minute with adding more hashing power didn't materialise - so no requirement
 to sell more Jupiters.
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Personal text my ass....
January 07, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
Sounds like for the "first time", they're floundering on their word. A month ago they confirmed they would in fact be selling Jupiters by now (actually, by now they should've been shipped). Now they're quiet.

Either they're releasing the Neptune much earlier than anticipated, like next month, or they're simply going to ignore their word.

Wasn't worth their time or energy to sell anymore Jupiters. That sentence still aches in my head, "have some coin handy". As I said before, the ONLY reason they even mentioned they would sell Jupiters and tell everyone to get some coin handy was to make people get some coin ready thinking they would able to buy Jupiters...then all of a sudden there was a Neptune sale again. What a coincidence! Yea, this is my opinion....but really it is the only logical reason why they would even mention it or tell us to get coins ready.

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January 07, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
off topic
For my USA KNC associates & friends...  heads up  good news for USA
Just completed an International Transfer Deposit from USA to Bitstamp in LESS THAN 24 hours!
hope that helps.

How?!

Is there a reason why you don't just use Coinbase? I have found that Coinbase is easy to use and allows transfers to/from US bank accounts.
Coinbase is not an exchange (no limit orders etc)...
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January 07, 2014, 06:58:51 PM
Thanks!
I got this problem when using one Google DNS (8.8.8.8 ). Changing to another DNS and it works now.
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January 07, 2014, 06:20:02 PM
www.kncminer.com and their forum down now or I got problem with their connections?

Anyone please confirm!

It's up but it appears slower than usual.
legendary
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January 07, 2014, 05:22:17 PM
www.kncminer.com and their forum down now or I got problem with their connections?

Anyone please confirm!

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.kncminer.com
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January 07, 2014, 05:19:22 PM
www.kncminer.com and their forum down now or I got problem with their connections?

Anyone please confirm!
legendary
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LIR DEV
January 07, 2014, 04:53:28 PM
nice....  might set that up as well for backup. I did try, but there was a verification problem (2nd step?)
I only pay .2% fee at bitstamp....  and I like the idea that they are on the xbt  Wink
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January 07, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
off topic
For my USA KNC associates & friends...  heads up  good news for USA
Just completed an International Transfer Deposit from USA to Bitstamp in LESS THAN 24 hours!
hope that helps.


Is there a reason why you don't just use Coinbase? I have found that Coinbase is easy to use and allows transfers to/from US bank accounts.
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