Topic: [SWEET] NectarCoin | Crypto's Answer to Skype, Slack & more | Crowdsale Jan 12 - page 2. (Read 104817 times)

We really appreciate the support - please spread the word. It's clear that what's gone on over the past year will require a higher level of transparency and performance from everyone to succeed. We've made clear in our [ANN] what our standards and vision are, and we will do what we can to rise to the challenge.

As you can see from my signature I'm involved with BitBay from ICO on and it feels good to see someone seeing how this not only hurts investors, but the whole cryptocommunity. Nevertheless the team got rid of Bobsurplus and company. In how much BTer is involved has yet to be investigated, but I would suggest to be cautious when dealing with them.

I also believe in Nectarcoin and what it stands for and that's why I watch for the launch and hoping for more transparency then BitBay has shown up until now.

Bter had been one of the exchanges we were talking to about the crowdfund. We don't know all the facts, but the allegations coming out on bitcointalk and twitter about Bter and Bitbay are troubling. Our condolences to those who've been affected by what might have happened there.

This sort of thing not only damages the coinholders immediately impacted. They hurt all of us - it makes it harder for those of us who want to bring real innovation and value added to this space to get the support and confidence we need to make our project a success.  

We're new to this crypto space and for us the crowdfund has never just been about raising funds. Although that's important, the bigger function was to serve as promotional/marketing event - an introduction of our brand to a larger audience.

We want a clean launch that's seen as a clean launch. Nectar aims to be a bright light in the troubled world that is crypto today.

Needless to say, after today's allegations, we are no longer interested in having our CFC co-hosted on bter and not interested in having our coin listed there unless the allegations involving bter and Bitbay are conclusively proven false.

Judging by what we've read, that seems pretty unlikely.

To our community, we'd say this - it's darkest before the dawn. We intend on bringing a breath of fresh air to the world of altcoins as soon as we possibly can.

That's why we limited the number of coins to less than bitcoin's total supply.

Too much sugar is not good for health. Hahahaha

Yes, and a couple others in the ANN - fixed. Thank you for pointing this out.

You missed one - the ANN title:

[ANN][SWEET] Nectar | Crypto's "P2P Skype" | All-in-One "Sweet Suite" | 5+ POD


Thanks for clarifying the distinction, I've ensured that it appears correctly as “Nectarcoin” in the DOACC metadata collection.

Cheers

Graham

Yes, we've had legal counsel advising us and, yes, the distinction is between Nectar and NectarCoin. If you review our announcement post (#1), you'll see we have legal services among the list of budget items. We've tried to cover all of the bases here. We thank you for your interest in NectarCoin.

I note that you operate from within the EU, have you taken legal advice on whether there is enough distance between the brand identity of Nectar coin and that of Nectar points?

http://www.nectar.com



It's probably too late to change the regrettable choice of brand name but I strongly urge you to make some basic visual changes to establish a lot of “clear, blue water” between “Nectar” (the coin) and “Nectar” (the points).

Cheers

Graham

free coin for tester 

Let's just say we're working very diligently to improve the odds no one will label our funding campaign as a pump and dump. We are as disappointed as everyone else has been by what's gone on over the past year and how badly the altcoin ecosystem has been damaged by it all, which is one of the big reasons we decided to move forward with this and do so in a careful and thoughtful manner.



First of all, let's agree to be mutually respectful of one another and to keep the discussion civil.

We understand many people have been burned here. We understand there have been many bad devs and a lot of frayed nerves. We are, as we type, dealing with the consequences of that in our discussions with exchanges that are more stringent (thankfully) than they've apparently been in the past.

But where we come from, you don't accuse someone you've never met, someone who hasn't been involved in any of what's gone up to this point, and call their efforts a "scam."

Now, on your point of non-minable coins/unregistered securities. This is crowdfunding/pre-sale of an application.

You might want to look that up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowdfunding

As always, we welcome any substantive questions about our proposal and thank you for your interest.



1) We're promising to deliver a desktop application including functions such as messaging, market alerts and more that include digital currency but go beyond it, as we outlined pretty thoroughly.
2) Cash up front? No, escrow up front that would be held by a trusted third party who'd released portions of the escrow as we delivered on each of the milestones. Please read the [ANN] section regarding the crowdfunding campaign. We state this very clearly several times.
3) "I just noticed a few leaked pieces of intellectual property". A vague allegation with no specifics or evidence. Our designs are all original work.

I think you're our first FUDer. Zzaap.





Thank you. We're trying to maintain a balance between being transparent and keeping the thread uncluttered. I think all FUD posters will get at least one chance to air their views, to which we'll respond. But at some point, if a particular user becomes a recurring source of redundant FUD spam, we'll remove it and all references entirely and will blacklist the user. We welcome substantive discussion and constructive criticism of NectarCoin.

IPO/ICO whatever you wanna call it is a scam... non minable coins are essentially just unregistered securities. :\ look it up

Update on the crowdfunding campaign (CFC):

We're close to settling details with two of the three exchanges but have one more to go, and we're considering a fourth exchange to improve the odds of hitting our target, or getting close. Again, back-and-forth communication has been a bit slower than we expected going in. These guys are busy and, in part as a result of the many scams this past year, the vetting process appears to be more stringent than it looks like it was in the past - and that's a good thing.

Again, please note that once we're over this hump, assuming a successful CFC, the tempo of work and activity will accelerate significantly. And, as part of the CFC funding period, we're considering offering live upon-request access to our demo alert system to give people a sense of how it would work in the desktop app. We feel that this could provide a significant boost of credibility and enthusiasm during the fund raising period.

As always,we welcome everyone's thoughts on this or any other aspect of our proposals.

Imo 2 exchanges would be fine and please no p&d one like trex, but I guess you figured that out already by yourself

Update on the crowdfunding campaign (CFC):

We're aiming for a 2- or 3-exchange CFC to improve the odds of hitting our target. We're close to settling details with one exchange and working on two others - back-and-forth communication is a bit slower than we expected. There's some ambivalence within the team about this approach though since, for one thing, it's taking longer than any of us would like and at least one of the exchanges is becoming increasingly associated with pump-and-dumps - which is something we do not want this coin associated with. We welcome everyone's thoughts and suggestions on this as we get close to wrapping this up and moving to the next stage.

Note that once we're over this hump, assuming a successful CFC, the tempo of work and activity will accelerate significantly. We are raring to go on our plans as soon as the funding to support them are in place. We thank everyone again for your interest and apologise for the delay in getting started - not completely within our control, unfortunately.

Thank you very much for your interest in Nectar. Just a few points, some of which have been previously addressed:
--a bicycle and a motorcycle have similar features (steering, two wheels, a seat, pedals, etc.), but they that offer very different user experiences. A lot of messenger programs were offering Skype-like features before Skype offered a unique and compelling execution that really stoked user interest and adoption.
--this is the beginning of our feature set, not the end. A lot of what we have planned has been kept confidential for post-launch. You should see what we're offering as a new, dynamic platform with a specific vision focused on user adoption, not as a fixed set of features.
--This is indeed a challenging time for altcoins. The bad is that people have grown sick of the flood of altcoins and trading volume is low. The good is that people have grown sick of the flood of altcoins and are hungry for something that will break from the pack. There are altcoins. Then there's our coin. We think different - very different. How different will become clearer in the weeks to come.
--we think the world of altcoins is in a lot of flux. We think bitcoin itself is vulnerable and that this entire ecosystem is fair game for the one coin (dev team + community + vision) that acts with integrity, humility and vision and gets it right. We intend to disrupt. This would be designed for popular use - we're aiming for a market and demographic much wider than crypto enthusiasts, including people who've never heard of crypto, or bitcoin for that matter. People who will respond to a much more user-friendly interface than most Qt coin wallets currently out there.

Sorry we had to delete your original post since it advertised other coins - we edited out those references and hope we've been faithful to the core of your remarks and have addressed them fully. We thank you again for your interest and suggestions.




We appreciate that, but we're not sure that counts. We have to earn it.

So if your wow comes after we release one of the future milestones, we'll gratefully tally that as a "wow". Thanks so much for your strong interest in the project - we will work hard to earn those wow's.

Reading the OP leaves me with just one word:

WOW

There you got your first full member. 

Please see: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9642307
We'll have an update as soon as the details are finalized. Thank you very much for your interest.

Hmm, when is the start, because I can't find info or maybe it is already started ?