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Topic: [SWEET] NectarCoin | Crypto's Answer to Skype, Slack & more | Crowdsale Jan 12 - page 3. (Read 104817 times)

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Below NectarCoin addresses the latest rounds of comments, criticisms, other feedback and suggestions. Please keep them coming.
We aim to address every batch of posts in a single response posted by the end of each weekday,
Monday to Saturday generally (we're out on Sundays).


All our previous posts: Link



Has the ICO started yet?  It doesn't seem like it has but I wasn't sure if I was missing something.

keeping my fingers crossed for NECTAR!  Smiley
bright future for Nectar  Cool


We really appreciate the interest. The negotiations with multiple exchanges is ongoing. We're tentatively expecting a listing next month. We will update everyone as soon as details are confirmed.

Just a message thread policy reminder:
Please do not advertise other coins in our message thread (we had to delete one such reference today), which is for the discussion, criticism, feedback, etc. of NectarCoin. We don't do that to other threads and expect others to pay us the same courtesy. If not, zzzap.
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Has the ICO started yet?  It doesn't seem like it has but I wasn't sure if I was missing something.
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keeping my fingers crossed for NECTAR!  Smiley
bright future for Nectar  Cool
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We'll be providing irregular updates here in our BCT message thread, on our twitter feed and our website as significant developments or progress toward significant developments arise.

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Just some updates:
* we've sharply flattened the crowdfunding campaign (CFC) price schedule, reduced the rate of increase to 8% per step and the number of steps from 7 to 5 to address the excellent points that were made about that.
* we're in talks with the top US altcoin exchanges for listing the crowdfunding campaign.
* We are seeking a reliable, well-connected China-based partner (could be native Chinese or expat) who can assist us with communication, promotion and high-level engagements in China. We are also considering bounties for specific objectives in Asia generally. Please PM us for more details.
* We intend to have a number of other bounties revolving around promotion/adoption efforts worldwide. There'll be more details on this ahead of and after the CFC.
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Below NectarCoin addresses the latest rounds of comments, criticisms, other feedback and suggestions. Please keep them coming.
We aim to address every batch of posts in a single response posted by the end of each weekday,
Monday to Saturday generally (we're out on Sundays).

All our previous posts: Link



Thanks for taking my stuff seriously. Kind of fun to help build something instead of wrecking.



We will take every good idea, every serious piece of feedback and every dose of constructive criticism seriously. Every one on bitcointalk should consider this a "demilitarized zone". We are new here. As such, we do not come with the historical/emotional baggage of whatever has transpired here in the past. We do not come with the arrogance that we know best on everything. And we *do* come with the hope that we can be part of what turns things around by, for starters, setting a good example, a new paradigm, of mutual respect and constructive dialogue that ultimately benefits everyone. tldr: keep the good ideas coming. Smiley



You didn't get it about the Indians. Every big software company ships their code writing off shore to India, the Philippines, etc to save money. Our mutual friend's country does code writing also for cheap. If you launch with working code you become bigger than bitcoin. Done.



We do hear you. There are many excellent Indian coders - among the top are those who are now doing a major chunk of world's development of software that runs the websites and internals of the world's top multinational banks and other Fortune 500 companies. Yet, there are also many not so great Indian coders. Many.... It's a big country. We are part of the IT services world "in the real world" and an unusually large number of our clients are those who've come to us, despite our higher rates, after experiences with much cheaper coders abroad. We have heard many horror stories. We've seen a lot of bad code. We have the highest regard for Indian culture and what India has achieved over the past decade, as well as what Indians have achieved in many countries worldwide. But our clients' experiences frame our perspective. We'll leave it at that. You mention Eastern Europe - our group has personnel throughout Europe, east and west.



Me and her are rich and you guys are like Bill Gates mega-yacht champagne filled swmming pools full of naked supermodels ultrarich. People don't mind some bugs if stuff basically works especially with alts because no one else has done anything. None of the markets, video chat, VOIP, smart contracts, virtual exchanges, none of it happened.  All bullshit and lies. Get over the perfection thing and hire some Indian dudes.



To each his own, but our primary goal is to build a quality product, develop a great following and build a great long-term reputation in crypto. Not a quick fling with champagne, supermodels and a Lambo (again, to each his own, but I think many of us would be embarassed to drive one). That stuff eventually fades. A good reputations lasts and pays dividends for a long, long time. Basically, we want to do what we feel is best for our customers, our careers and our families over the long run.



No one believes an ICO that doesn't do somthing right away. Bitbay is slowly proving that despite that fancy guy they hired.



We again do have a pre-crowdfunding campaign and post-crowdfunding campaign strategy in place. We see the CFC as a branding event that launches the brand reputation of our coin. We also have a very strong perspective of looking out for our customers and treating everyone who buys into the CFC as a valued customer. So we consider it vital that the CFC does well and is perceived widely as a big success and will do everything we can in that regard to make it so. We'll leave it at that for now.






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Below NectarCoin addresses the latest rounds of comments, criticisms, other feedback and suggestions. Please keep them coming.
We aim to address every batch of posts in a single response posted by the end of each weekday,
Monday to Saturday generally (we're out on Sundays).

All our previous posts: Link




It is looking soo good Grin Watching
watching and participating is a good thing



We welcome both. Smiley



Just passed through: good work on the ANN. I'd cut it down to one wallet pic. The bug  pix are more interesting. We've all seen pretty wallet mock-ups. No ones believes them or cares anymore.



Many thanks for the compliments and again for your time in checking things out. We hear you regarding the pictures, except they're pretty central to the vision we have and the brand image we want to convey. We realise a lot of people have grown cynical and skeptical about "plans", but not everyone, we think. And by posting them now - and delivering on the promises -- people will have a reference point to trust other (bigger) plan we plan to unveil and deliver on in the future. We understand building street cred is not easy in this environment, but we're committed to doing it steadily.



If i was you I'd get a bank loan and pay some Indians or whatever to get your features working before the ICO.



No way. Full stop. Our early reputation in crypto will be riding on how well we do with Nectar. Nectar will be a secure, vetted, commercial-grade application built in Europe - not a... well, we'll just leave it at that. Smiley



Here's what happens otherwise: people buy in, get hyped then get nothing but a LiteCoin clone and a wallet with an Exchange in it.  They start selling here and there to pay bills, ride a pump, get into some new hype coin. Your price drops and people start selling more.  Pretty soon you've become Gaiacoin.



We'd rather run that risk than cut corners and deliver something second-rate we can not vouch for 100%. That's how we roll in our work in the "real world" and in the long run, customers benefit and appreciate our adherence to standards and looking out for their long-term interest (even if they might not have at the start). Also, we have a pre- and post-crowdfunding campaign strategy that will be in place around the time of the CFC.



This same crap is happening with Bitbay. They've got some beavy hitters and no one is shouting "scam" except a few idiots getting paid to do it. Their price is slipping about 10 sat per day because all thsy've got is promises. Bitbay will be dead in a couple of weeks if they don't actually release something.




We're not familiar with all the details about Bitbay except that their CFC boom seemed heavily reliant on news of the license agreement with Mr. David Zimbeck. Beyond that, I don't think anyone knows anything about the group behind it. We think that might be a big factor behind whatever weakness they might be experiencing now. But we don't know the full details of what's going on out there - just our initial impressions were when they came out of virtually nowhere.



I guess you're going to stick to Bitcointalk. Your call.



Well, let's just say it's wait-and-see, and we don't want to end up like Neos. We're staying open to all platforms, including Coinblab. For now at least. And FUD phasers on stun.

Please note today's Q&A will be followed by a couple minor updates.
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It is looking soo good Grin Watching

watching and participating is a good thing
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It is looking soo good Grin Watching
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Just passed through: good work on the ANN. I'd cut it down to one wallet pic. The bug  pix are more interesting. We've all seen pretty wallet mock-ups. No ones believes them or cares anymore.

If i was you I'd get a bank loan and pay some Indians or whatever to get your features working before the ICO. Here's what happens otherwise: people buy in, get hyped then get nothing but a LiteCoin clone and a wallet with an Exchange in it.  They start selling here and there to pay bills, ride a pump, get into some new hype coin. Your price drops and people start selling more.  Pretty soon you've become Gaiacoin.

This same crap is happening with Bitbay. They've got some beavy hitters and no one is shouting "scam" except a few idiots getting paid to do it. Their price is slipping about 10 sat per day because all thsy've got is promises. Bitbay will be dead in a couple of weeks if they don't actually release something.

I guess you're going to stick to Bitcointalk. Your call.
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Below NectarCoin addresses the latest rounds of comments, criticisms, other feedback and suggestions. Please keep them coming.
We aim to address every batch of posts in a single response posted by the end of each weekday,
Monday to Saturday generally (we're out on Sundays).

All our previous posts: Link



i have been watching this myself and would like to make a few comments. i like the coin idea and the way the escrow will be setup to release only after certain milestones are reached, i also like the way you have answered alot of the questions here. but im my opinion the ico phases are terrible.
206,000 x  0.00008 btc per coin
206,000 x   0.00012 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000157 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000188 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000226 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000271 btc per coin
1.5877 million coins x .000300 btc per coin

this is not going to work well at all for anybody that doesnt get a chance to buy in on the first 2 phases someone or group with lots of btc will buy all or most of those coins and dump for good profit killing any chance of a good roi on anyone that buys after. so if left this way people might as well wait for the dumps rather than buy in at 2x 3x the first phase of ico. day traders will arbitrage for just a few hundred sat not mention this spread.


We hear you - we're actually not wedded to this price schedule - only to the fundraising target and the idea that there should be price staggering, of  at least three or four steps, to award early buyers and give people an incentive to buy sooner rather than later to improve the odds the crowdfunding campaign hits its target within the fixed timeframe. We'll look into compressing the schedule and welcome any suggestions along those lines that meet the two conditions.


also on the coin blab thought i have used it thinking it would be nice to get away from the fud some here, but that place is even worse it takes things to the other extreme it removes any posts that even disagree with the op and are not fud but the truth, so i won't be going back there again it is for cheerleaders not for people with an opinion on things,  

You know, that's exactly what we suspected might be going on over there, and if that's the case (we have no idea), we agree: we don't want that. An open forum with honest discourse, constructive criticism and mutual respect is all we ask for.


with that said i wish you luck with your project i have been here for awhile and have seen a serious decline in the alt coin projects and markets, and hope some people can bring some things that will make a positive change.



It's pretty depressing - even bitcoin is sickly these days - but we see a new generation of serious projects emerging, including the exciting blockchain 2.0 developments with Ethereum and CounterParty, and we hope to be part of that sea change.

At the risk of mixing metaphors, it's darkest before the dawn.


Nice project, im reading ALL op haha
Are there alpha version? or is onlye a prototype?



Thank you for your interest in the project. There's no alpha, just a raw prototype of the altmarket alert system component (which we previously posted a video of), conceptual designs of the key screens and a basic outline of how we'd build everything out - all put together during our spare time outside of our full-time work in the "real world".

We're seeking funding to be able to devote ourselves full time to building everything out, including an alpha, beta and final version. We need to be clear on this: this is a crowdfunding campaign to build out the software, support it and promote it. And we don't get a dime from it until we deliver on each of the major components.

Feel free to let us know if you have any other questions, and thank you again for your interest.
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i have been watching this myself and would like to make a few comments. i like the coin idea and the way the escrow will be setup to release only after certain milestones are reached, i also like the way you have answered alot of the questions here. but im my opinion the ico phases are terrible.
206,000 x  0.00008 btc per coin
206,000 x   0.00012 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000157 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000188 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000226 btc per coin
2 million coins x .000271 btc per coin
1.5877 million coins x .000300 btc per coin

this is not going to work well at all for anybody that doesnt get a chance to buy in on the first 2 phases someone or group with lots of btc will buy all or most of those coins and dump for good profit killing any chance of a good roi on anyone that buys after. so if left this way people might as well wait for the dumps rather than buy in at 2x 3x the first phase of ico. day traders will arbitrage for just a few hundred sat not mention this spread.  also on the coin blab thought i have used it thinking it would be nice to get away from the fud some here, but that place is even worse it takes things to the other extreme it removes any posts that even disagree with the op and are not fud but the truth, so i won't be going back there again it is for cheerleaders not for people with an opinion on things,  with that said i wish you luck with your project i have been here for awhile and have seen a serious decline in the alt coin projects and markets, and hope some people can bring some things that will make a positive change.
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Nice project, im reading ALL op haha
Are there alpha version? or is onlye a prototype?
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Below NectarCoin addresses the latest rounds of comments, criticisms, other feedback and suggestions. Please keep them coming.
We aim to address every batch of posts in a single response posted by the end of each weekday.

All our previous posts: Link


very interesting coin and idea of promoting. I will watch closely!  Smiley

Feel free to let us know if you have any questions. Speaking of promoting, there will be more detail on our adoption strategy in the weeks to come.


I like the look of nectar but think yr right to maybe increase the coins somewhat and lower the price by more than proportionally. The Nectar team seem very clued up and professional. Definitely 1 to keep an eye on. & Fuck Coinblab, lair of P&D'ers .


Yes, we'll continue to weigh the pros and cons to try to figure out the best tradeoff. More choices are good, but yes, we'd really like to know who specifically is behind Coinblab.


This is the best wallet I have ever seen. I'm and waiting for more Cheesy
Good luck
It's not a wallet, it's just a picture of what is claimed to be a wallet some day. No idea about anyone else's development process but usually you get all the functionality working before you start to make things look pretty.

Hmm so we must wait until some hard facts, because now it is just nice words.
Anyway i'm looking at this.


We agree. Under the terms of the results-based, milestone-based escrow, we would not get paid a dime just for words. We'd only be paid based on our delivery of promised results. That's exactly how we roll in IT services work for our clients in the "real world."


I can't believe it, coindevs who can spell and know words other than "Moon!" or "This coin is great!".  Maybe the adults are finally home.

We can also count from 1 to at least 10.



Yep, coinblab is run by the worst of the worst.  Utter scum. Who cares? It is a good way to get your information out and lock out the trolls. They're going to be here in force.  Some are already here pretending to be nice. I recognize the user names.


Our approach to all users will be innocent until proven guilty. And, again, we suspect that everyone, including FUDers, have come to realise how much damage they've done to the entire ecosystem by their bad behavior. I think it's dawning on people how much they hurt their own coins. Remember how well DRK used to be doing - before they started attacking XC? Too much bad behavior has shrunk the pie for everyone, including the people who engaged in that bad behavior. We are optimistic that things are turning around and that a lot of bad actors are rethinking whether their past actions have been in their best long-term interest.

One other advice: if your coin takes off, mod out the rocket pictures, moon pictures, stupid meme pics, animated gifs and all that garbage.  It only works for Dogecoin.  On other coins it screams "Look, I'm one of the dev's sock puppets!"
+1 or to say it short: Cut the crap Wink

Totally, totally agree with you both. I think we hate that more than FUD. It screams "scam" and "no substance here".


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One other advice: if your coin takes off, mod out the rocket pictures, moon pictures, stupid meme pics, animated gifs and all that garbage.  It only works for Dogecoin.  On other coins it screams "Look, I'm one of the dev's sock puppets!"
+1 or to say it short: Cut the crap Wink
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I can't believe it, coindevs who can spell and know words other than "Moon!" or "This coin is great!".  Maybe the adults are finally home.

Yep, coinblab is run by the worst of the worst.  Utter scum. Who cares? It is a good way to get your information out and lock out the trolls. They're going to be here in force.  Some are already here pretending to be nice. I recognize the user names.

One other advice: if your coin takes off, mod out the rocket pictures, moon pictures, stupid meme pics, animated gifs and all that garbage.  It only works for Dogecoin.  On other coins it screams "Look, I'm one of the dev's sock puppets!"
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This is the best wallet I have ever seen. I'm and waiting for more Cheesy
Good luck
It's not a wallet, it's just a picture of what is claimed to be a wallet some day. No idea about anyone else's development process but usually you get all the functionality working before you start to make things look pretty.

Hmm so we must wait until some hard facts, because now it is just nice words.
Anyway i'm looking at this.
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I like the look of nectar but think yr right to maybe increase the coins somewhat and lower the price by more than proportionally. The Nectar team seem very clued up and professional. Definitely 1 to keep an eye on. & Fuck Coinblab, lair of P&D'ers .
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very interesting coin and idea of promoting. I will watch closely!  Smiley
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Here you go, they're beginning to creep around.  This one is a Syscoin bag holder. If your coin manages to grow Syscoin is more in the dirt. They need Bitcointalk to spread FUD.  Coinblab is one choice. There are others. Bitcointalk is a cesspool that will suck you in.

lol at the attempt to get you to move to Coinblab , dont fall for it!!

Nectar isnt a threat to SYS what are you on about?? Completely different coins!! lol

What i dont like are people like Zemerovka and @manelecrypto , who are prob, definitely even, the same person, who lie, manipulate and FUD just so they can Pump & Dump a coin that they hold.  See this Panda thread where People including Zemreovka claim Panda is being used all over Romania in Bars, shops, cafes, taxis etc.. trying to pump Panda, claiming a real world use. All lies, based on some Romanian singer -who surprise surprise ends up being @manelecrypto who supposedly mentioned Panda in an interview, Anington is also @manelecrypto see her posts
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-currencies-youve-actually-used-846866
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