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Topic: [SWEET] NectarCoin | Crypto's Answer to Skype, Slack & more | Crowdsale Jan 12 - page 4. (Read 104817 times)

legendary
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Allergic to false promises
I see that the dev is very active. I think that it is worthwhile to observe the development of this coin.
Not only that, but he also knows very well what he is talking about and I appreciate that very much. Especially after all the scams that the cryptocurrency scene has gone through.
newbie
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I see that the dev is very active. I think that it is worthwhile to observe the development of this coin.
member
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full member
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I don't trust IPO or ICO of any kind,for most of them are scams.
member
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Here you go, they're beginning to creep around.  This one is a Syscoin bag holder. If your coin manages to grow Syscoin is more in the dirt. They need Bitcointalk to spread FUD.  Coinblab is one choice. There are others. Bitcointalk is a cesspool that will suck you in.

lol at the attempt to get you to move to Coinblab , dont fall for it!!


We don't consider anything we've seen posted so far in this message thread to be FUD - so far, we're seeing a healthy and constructive exchange of suggestions, comments and opinions and we're happy to respond to all of them. We're going to be responding to the last round of comments in one big swoop in a post that's on its way. Thanks so much to everyone for your time and interest in our project.
newbie
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Here you go, they're beginning to creep around.  This one is a Syscoin bag holder. If your coin manages to grow Syscoin is more in the dirt. They need Bitcointalk to spread FUD.  Coinblab is one choice. There are others. Bitcointalk is a cesspool that will suck you in.

lol at the attempt to get you to move to Coinblab , dont fall for it!!
legendary
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lol at the attempt to get you to move to Coinblab , dont fall for it!!
legendary
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Coin looks great as does wallet but you cant go charging 8000 - 30,000 on buy first get in cheaper basis.  nobodys gonna wanna pay double or more than the first price. And even 8000 sats is pretty damn expensive. Youd be better off having 1 price, much fairer and youd prob raise more in the end.  Good luck raising 2200 BTCs in todays scene with those prices!!??
newbie
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newbie
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breath of fresh air in crypto world... we'll see what the future will bring. I will watch and cheer

good luck  Smiley
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One of our favorite twitter cryptocelebs/commentators is @manelecrypto, who often posts some of the funniest, frequent, timely, on-target crypto commentary on the web - it's quite witty. We address some recent comments directed to us:



 

In the days to come, we plan to publicise Nectar wherever crypto is widely followed, including CoinBlab (I think we've already started posting our profile there). But we have our small suspicions that Coinblab is run by whale-manipulators/pump-and-dump groups. And we really want to keep Nectar as clean as possible - one of our biggest selling points is that we're new to the system (Mr Smith Goes to Washington) and are not tangled up in all that baggage. We do plan to post more on Coinblab, but we'd like to know more about who's behind it and what their intentions are.

As for FUD, we consider it the "cost of doing business." Any time you do business, especially if you're successful, you have to put up with some noise/criticism. As an IT services group (in the "real world"), we have to put up with our fair share of difficult clients. Our perspective is that, as long as there's mutual respect, clients who entrust us their hard-earned money, have every right to have their concerns expressed and addressed. We don't always have all the answers - all the right answers. Constructive criticism and input makes us question our wrong assumptions and do a better job of serving our clients going forward.

As long as that criticism is constructive and not vulgar, we welcome it. If it's vulgar and clearly motivated by deliberate plans to undermine the coin and hurt this community, we'll respond. You can see our FUD policy in the [ANN] #1 post.

We're reluctant to censor - one option we've considered is opening two threads, one moderated and one unmoderated, so that if FUD becomes a problem (doesnt seem to be so far), people will be free to pick whether they want to read the clean, filtered thread to get to informative content/updates faster and more easily or go through the unfiltered messy message thread.

As always, we're open to suggestions that address the tradeoff between freedom and order and, more specifically, what we can do to ensure valid criticism gets through and deliberate attempts to hurt the coin/community do not.


 

We plan to be very responsive to community input about all aspects (including marketing and wallet/messenger design and functionality) and will consider lowering the coin price (since several people have commented on this) as well as the number of coins, but keep in mind that we've priced the coin to be able to provide a budget that covers a full-time commitment over an 18-month+ period from a professional staff of serious designers, programmers and marketers. The kind of quality dev team and the kind of 24/7 commitment that people clearly want. We have to make sure the budget supports that.

Regarding the quamtity of coins (putting aside the price), we thought it might actually be too low. Our goal is to make Nectar widely used, especially across college campuses, media institutions and other groups who value secure chat communications. We want a widely circulated coin to be widely available without a lot of people having to make decimal .000000x calculations or conversions to Nectar-satoshi ("nectarines"/"natoshis"?) in their heads. We think this is one thing Dogecoin got right and one of the reasons it's been effecting as a tipping/social coin. Again, we want everything about Nectar to be user friendly.

One possibility we're considering is to increase the coin supply and proportionately reduce the price per coin to keep everything even.



 

We keen on p2p chat anon but are ambivalent about currency anon-transactions tech. We think there are a lot of big technical questions that haven't been fully addressed (though Shadowcoin and the Cryptonote coins seem promising and seem to be making progress). We dont want to give false promises. What we've promised so far is only what we're certain we can deliver. That said, we are building Nectar to be a very flexible, modular system (including a plugin platform) that will be future-proofed for upgrades.

We just think there are more immediate issues about usability and adoption that really need to be addressed fast, first, and we want to focus on those - things we're sure we can deliver - before we address bigger, more exotic things.

If Cryptonote, Shadowcoin and Darkcoin fail to achieve solid, verified anon-transaction tech and we decide to make a big push on this front, we likely wont say anything about it or announce anything until we achieve it 100% in a way that is 100% verified by well-respected third party experts (on the level of Andreas Antonopoulos). In other words, we'd Ninja announce it. We will not run the risk of dragging people through weeks and months of anticipation for nothing, as so many "anon" coins have.

We love nature pics too! Bees are adorable... from a distance.





Wow, we thought we might be a bit picture-heavy. Glad you appreciate nature photography like we do. Regarding roadmap ETAs, please see our previous comments. We will be providing a roadmap and %-completed updates on a regular basis, but we want to avoid overpromising and underdelivering, so we will avoid giving hard dates. The nature of programming is that you can always run up against unanticipated unknowns that have to be worked through and worked around on unpredictable schedules. But where we're more certain, we'll give more guidance. And again, we'll always be provided "% complete" updates.

Direct 2-way/fiat conversion - we completely agree. And will have more to say on this. The user-friendliness of the system will rely heavily on making use of crypto as easy and the tech as "invisible" to mainstream users as possible. Everything that supports that we can enable we will enable.

Thank you so much for the feedback - we welcome other helpful comments.
member
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Crypto really needs a push in the right direction and I can only underline the previously posted vision on cryptocurrency nowadays and the role Nectar can play.
If the ICO will be successful (which I will be monitoring daily), I'm sure Nectar will be also.

Clearly, we agree and we are hopeful that Nectar along with a coming wave of blockchain 2.0 coins (such as Ethereum, NEM and others) led by professional teams with a strong long-term vision will put crypto back on a solid path that leads to significant human progress.

legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1000
Allergic to false promises
Crypto really needs a push in the right direction and I can only underline the previously posted vision on cryptocurrency nowadays and the role Nectar can play.
If the ICO will be successful (which I will be monitoring daily), I'm sure Nectar will be also.
member
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It's not a wallet, it's just a picture of what is claimed to be a wallet some day. No idea about anyone else's development process but usually you get all the functionality working before you start to make things look pretty.
Not to be a party pooper but this looks like all show and no go. Fancy photoshops don't make software work. Who is your team? What is their experience? How will it be promoted? Where is the timeline?

By all means, poop. Smiley Several days ago we posted a youtube demo video of our altmarket alert system prototype in action (it's in the [ANN] post #1). CryptoAsian was provided our bitbucket code repository. We're one of the top IT freelance groups in Europe (http://cryptoasian.com/sweet-nectarcoin/   http://proofofdev.com/sweet-nectarcoin/) - in the top 5% on a major online freelance platform as CryptoAsian has verified. It's all in our [ANN] #1 post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9090897

And, yes, this is a work in progress. The very point of this Crowdfunding Campaign is to get the financial support we need to fully realise our vision to develop a Wallet App that ordinary people will actually want and know how to use intuitively, without having to be crypto geeks.

We'll be providing a roadmap once we're clear what the funding support looks like and schedule a full-time commitment on that basis. We are not going to make the mistake others have of providing hard dates in our roadmap, but we'll definitely be providing progress reports (% complete) as part of the project. We are not going to make the mistake others have of not hedging for uncertainty and the unexpected and overpromising and underdelivering.

We make very clear in our ANN that we're seeking CFC funding to fully realise our vision and devote ourselves to development of this full-time. What we want to build is not the sort of thing that can be slapped together part-time as an unfunded hobby project. We're proposing a commercial-grade product here and the financing for our professional team to commit the necessary time to build it all out.

Please also note from the ANN that we propose a results/milestone-based CFC escrow release schedule: we don't get a dime until we deliver on each major component.

We thank you for your questions and interest.

too cute to be true ...

Good - we aim to shock a lot of people... in a good way. Crypto needs a positive jolt. Badly.

good luck ! Hopes this coin will be a good coin

We appreciate your support and the well wishes. Crypto is tough these days and we will need all the support, luck and constructive criticism we can get.

This is the best wallet I have ever seen. I'm and waiting for more Cheesy
Good luck

Our goal #1 is to build something that actually encourages adoption - we are tired of seeing the same old Qt wallets and think this ecosystem is overdue for a massive UI upgrade, like what iOS and Android have done for mobile phones. And that's just the start of what we have planned. Thank you for the well wishes. Stay tuned.



sr. member
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This is the best wallet I have ever seen. I'm and waiting for more Cheesy
Good luck
It's not a wallet, it's just a picture of what is claimed to be a wallet some day. No idea about anyone else's development process but usually you get all the functionality working before you start to make things look pretty.
newbie
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This is the best wallet I have ever seen. I'm and waiting for more Cheesy
Good luck
legendary
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good luck ! Hopes this coin will be a good coin
member
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too cute to be true ...
sr. member
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Not to be a party pooper but this looks like all show and no go. Fancy photoshops don't make software work. Who is your team? What is their experience? How will it be promoted? Where is the timeline?
member
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Slick and clear design with a lot of features.
Or with one word: Sweet  Tongue

We aim to please - please spread the word.
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