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December 06, 2023, 06:29:12 PM
#84
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
It's just how it is in the gambling industry, most of us are losers. I don't think we should even count how much we have loss, we are all brothers when it comes to gambling, we feel each other and many of us ended up the same way as the other one. Very rare people can come out and testify about their gambling success because we all know that the losing percentage is way higher than winning.
That's why I don't joke about losses with other gamblers, you don't know when they are too sensitive about it because they might have just depleted a lot of money that day in gambling and they are not ready for any jokes yet.
A gambler who doesn't figure out his budget ain't a responsible one, worse, he could be a gambling addict which is why he is unable to control his gambling habit. I think those types of people will need some help from either their relatives, family or a specialist. Maybe that will help him to minimize the damage he is doing to his financial status.
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December 06, 2023, 06:19:54 PM
#83
I would say that most gamblers who lose a lot of money are not very good at mathematics. Not just to the point of not understanding concepts like House Edge, but at a more basic level, like not even knowing what their net worth is, as the OP comments. If we think about where the lottery sells more or where there are more betting houses, we see that it coincides not only with people who have less knowledge in general, but who are more needy, unfortunately, and resort to gambling as a quick way of escape (almost always unsuccessful).
Really you think so,  are you saying you have a mathematical formula that aids your winning always or are you just saying this to justify the reason why you should continue to gamble excessively thinking you may or are winning all the time,  this is the mindset of many of those who have lost heavily in the past,  thinking and relying on their ability to win all the time.

But in the end, they end up losing more than they thought and this is added by their overconfidence in their ability to make an accurate game analysis using mechanical tools to do that at most times.
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December 06, 2023, 10:34:43 AM
#82
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.


That's a wrong approach to gambling, if a gambler is playing with money that he can afford to lose, there's no need to feel sorry for them, I don't want people consoling me about my losses, that's gambling if your approach to gambling is for entertainment purposes only and you're not looking to make money, you will feel offended if they console with your losses.
Don't show people that you are sorry for your losses, so people will not console you, whatever the outcome show them that you accept it whatever the result is.
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December 06, 2023, 09:54:19 AM
#81
This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
A condolence winning? What the hell does that have to do in gambling? If you are playing your luck it means you accept the possible outcomes and then you proceed and not the other way round. This is not a competition where there will be a 1st, 2nd prize and the rest will get a consolation.

Never get emotional seeing a gambler lose money, it is their fault and they have to take the blame for the loss, not you. Never be sympathetic to a gambler's loss either. Many gamblers are trying to play the victim card and extracting money from others just to play more and repeat the cycle. This is the effect of gambling addiction.
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December 06, 2023, 09:46:59 AM
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In my opinion, do not see or remember the losses that have occurred with gambling,  because before gambling they should know that gambling is great, of course what is obtained is defeat not victory. And if they are like that,  it's better not to gamble if only to remember the losses that have occurred, because gambling is only for entertainment not to make money primarily.
we often see or read that Gambling is for fun and not to make money , but are you a gambler?
if yes then have you not expect to win when you gamble , or you are just nothing but commenting that does not
really understand what gambling is all about. because for how many years that people keeps calling gambling for
entertainment but does not really gamble in regular basis meaning they dont know what is gambling and for what really is.

I'm a gambler myself, I'm not proud of it and I'm not proud of it either. Losing a lot of money, getting big or small wins, loss of self-control, greed and selfishness. I've been there, done that. All people who gamble certainly have the desire to get a big win because no one wants to lose in gambling, is there anyone who has the intention of gambling to lose? For example, someone who has enough money and wants to gamble with the phrase "I will gamble and I want to get a loss", it's impossible, right? everyone wants to win in gambling.

From the beginning I gambled until now I have learned many things, where at the beginning I gambled of course I really wanted a big win and I did gambling by continuing to pursue victory, even though it cost me a lot of money, and one day I realized what should be improved in my behavior towards gambling, which is not to pursue defeat by just wanting to get a win that can cover the losses that have occurred, because that is very unlikely to happen. Also I have realized that gambling is not a place to make money but for entertainment only, and until now I still gamble but not by expecting too much victory nor by crazily chasing victory because I already know what gambling is. So I only play to relieve boredom, win I pull, lose, don't force yourself to chase victory even though you have quite a lot of money. Therefore I say all this, the defeats that have occurred should not be remembered, it is better to forget it because there is still luck later, maybe that too. Grin

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Yes you are right, they are trapped by their own minds that make them addicted to gambling because of the wrong mindset by making gambling a place to make money. Of course this is not true, but the wrong mindset that to make money they should work not gamble, it is not recommended that gambling be used as a place to make money if it is to spend money that is true hahha.
I wish some day you will meet a person that makes a living using gambling aside from those
casino employees that literally paid in gambling instead those gambling experts that only gamble and making money.

I hope like that, so that I can ask many things why he can get victory so easily and always get victory, because maybe he will tell you how to gamble correctly so that you always win and always be profitable, even though gambling is regulated by the bookie who has a role as the host, and you can be sure that the bookie certainly will not want to lose, so if there is someone who makes a living from gambling, maybe he is a god, because he has defeated the bookie as his host. Cheesy
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December 06, 2023, 05:45:22 AM
#79
No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to Thier turn... maybe today, maybe not. how sick that sounds to me...

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With that hope that makes them confident in the victory that will be obtained because they see other people who get the victory so maybe they think they will also get a decent victory. They don't think about the different luck of each person.
Hoping like that is natural, but if they don't have luck until whenever they won't get victory and prosperity in gambling it will only make them financially difficult. And should not expect more in gambling that is not necessarily it will give you what you want.

This is how people lose since they expect to much that they get the same result with those people they are following.

They didn't realize at first place that when it came to them its really different that's why they lose, they should never do it again if they don't want to experience the same faith and always have their own strategy nor do their own research about it if what those people told strategy is really applicable to them so that they not lose a lot of money before they realize that its not really worth to follow the advice given by those random people.

They should feel if they are lucky but if not then its good for them to quit immediately since we all know what will be the result if we continue to gamble while we are playing while we are experience a bad day.
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December 06, 2023, 05:06:55 AM
#78
No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to Thier turn... maybe today, maybe not. how sick that sounds to me...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

With that hope that makes them confident in the victory that will be obtained because they see other people who get the victory so maybe they think they will also get a decent victory. They don't think about the different luck of each person.
Hoping like that is natural, but if they don't have luck until whenever they won't get victory and prosperity in gambling it will only make them financially difficult. And should not expect more in gambling that is not necessarily it will give you what you want.
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December 06, 2023, 04:20:26 AM
#77
Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.

Streamers and gamblers are both different persons. A streamer’s content is just to gamble. He doesn’t gamble to make money. He makes money through streaming. So their only motive while streaming is to entertain their audience. On the other hand the emotions shown by a real gambler after losing is really heartbreaking. I also remember losing big amount, and whenever I think about that incident, it makes me sad. So our only lesson that we can learn from here is that, gamble with setting smaller goals and fix budget.
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December 06, 2023, 04:09:08 AM
#76
If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether.

I like your this quote, those people are lucky who figured that out that they cannot win in gambling in their first 1 or 2 losses.
And people who are greedy or risk more in their first attempt of gambling they will chase the losses because they risked money which is important to them.
while playing sometimes we feel heat on our face this is better to get out of the session or we can lose it all.
True, many gamblers choose to add fuel to the fire until the fire becomes bigger and burns everything out of them. Sorry for the quote, but anyway, the essence is that many gamblers in real life choose to still continue on playing even if they know that they have lost a quite amount, which means they don't care; they will still keep on hoping until they get a win, either that win is not enough to cover the loss or they never win at the end of the game, and in the end they will see how deep they sank from their misery. Honesty, I don't feel sympathy for those gamblers because, why? If they choose that path or that destiny, then let them face the consequences of their own doing and their own decision. Let them reflect on what they did wrong. If you are in the right mind, then you will know when to stop as a responsible gambler.
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December 06, 2023, 03:48:29 AM
#75
If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether.

I like your this quote, those people are lucky who figured that out that they cannot win in gambling in their first 1 or 2 losses.
And people who are greedy or risk more in their first attempt of gambling they will chase the losses because they risked money which is important to them.
while playing sometimes we feel heat on our face this is better to get out of the session or we can lose it all.
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December 06, 2023, 03:19:04 AM
#74
If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether. I think the same thing applies to gambling: if you can't handle the losses, better not start gambling at all. i know that once gamblers got over the loss, they'll do the same thing as if they are not getting the lesson out of the losses. Well, if they are really serious in gambling, they'd chase the losses in hopes of getting even, or getting the win, even.

That's a pretty bold statement and I highly agree with you. Gambling is not for the ones who can't handle the losses because it's a game where one either win or lose and if one gets depressed or sad due to a loss then that person should better not start gambling in first place.

A gambler has to face many losses during gambling sessions and if that's going to hurt him/her then they should better take a step back and do something else instead of gambling. Sometimes a few gambler face so many consecutive losses and that's enough to shake them out but a true gambling enthusiast won't stop gambling even if he/she faces 100 or even 1000 consecutive losses.

It's still better to gamble on the days when your luck is good because when someone faces more than 3 losses in a single day then he/she should stop gambling for that day. I have always said and I will always say that the ones who are lucky will earn from gambling and the ones who aren't lucky will lose from gambling. Our luck also changes each day so when they luck is on top then once should gamble and when luck isn't in our favor we should halt the gambling operations.
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December 05, 2023, 06:30:36 PM
#73
If you can't handle the heat, better get out of the kitchen and stop cooking altogether. I think the same thing applies to gambling: if you can't handle the losses, better not start gambling at all. i know that once gamblers got over the loss, they'll do the same thing as if they are not getting the lesson out of the losses. Well, if they are really serious in gambling, they'd chase the losses in hopes of getting even, or getting the win, even.
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December 05, 2023, 06:29:45 PM
#72
No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to their turn... maybe today, maybe not. How sick that sounds to me...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
You are correct and the reason being that you only gamble with an amount you can comfortably lose at some point and also you have a long-term experience to know how best to handle gambling losses at some point and most times,  we tend to take the time to build that system that can reflect on our mindset and physical appearance at the time of Unfavourable conditions such as in this case mentioned in the ops.

Gambling with the wrong mentality or under the influence of anything will amount to a total waste of money in the long run,  but much more also is taking gambling as an investment,  such an approach also has wracked a lot of gamblers sliding them either into huge debts or becoming uncontrollably addicted.
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December 05, 2023, 06:21:58 PM
#71
Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.

Yeah, I remember one women gambling who become viral in Tiktok and even have been in one thread here. I'm just thing that the whole crying was really stage by the women so that he can get more views and obviously get money.

It's nature to us, sometimes there are soft hearted person here who is a gambler and see that someone losses big money and you can see their reaction in their face. It might be real or not, but we felt compassion and as if we also felt how big the money he or she has lost. But the thing is that instead of being negative about it, let life continue for us and don't be emotionally attached to anything we see that we can relate like in gambling.
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December 05, 2023, 06:19:11 PM
#70
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Between remorse, guilt, pain, and anger I wonder which is strongest felt when a gambler losses or even realizes that they have just gambled way their life's savings or money that was supposed to be used for something important.

I bet the one that lingers the longest is the remorse.  We all know that regret is chronic, it keeps on coming back even if we are doing fine with our gambling activities. So better to keep ourselves in check and avoid spending money that we cannot afford to lose in our gambling activities.

If you have ever been in a bet shop what you will soon realize is that these emotions are but fleeting. They do last up to 30minutes. These gamblers are so full of false hope or disillusion that they believe that they can recover the money they lost if they try again but the story remains the same.

Yeah, excitement and other feelings are fleeting but they easily go away if we meet the condition why these feelings exist anyway.  Once we are don with meeting the triggers of this emotion, the emotion just simply goes away, we will be happy if the bet turns out to have a positive result but remorseful if it is not because we spend the money we can't afford to lose.
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December 05, 2023, 06:16:55 PM
#69
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

People who end up getting emotionally attached to gambling will often end up making some very silly mistakes, as it's usually connected to desperation of winning instead of logically understanding the risks that are being faced. A good gambler will be sticking far within their bankroll and managing it appropriately, often losing no more than 1% of their balance in a single sitting - if we were to talk about a skilled game like poker. You should always be able to get up and leave the table, taking on board any lessons you might have taken and analyzing losing positions, but never feeling sad or uncomfortable that you've lost money. You're either playing entirely for fun or are on a step ladder gaining experience in a game you can beat long term.
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December 05, 2023, 05:56:48 PM
#68
No matter how much you lost on gambling, I ain't got that time for petty sentiments, all in the name of regrets or pity for you... I believe that nobody needs to tell you at that point to forsake so many unnecessary spendings, including gambling....(cus I believe a gambler would always carryon and spend on other irrelevancies extravagantly)

The one thing that gives them hope is that -- others are winning, and it'll definitely get to Thier turn... maybe today, maybe not. how sick that sounds to me...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
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December 05, 2023, 05:37:17 PM
#67
Don’t be too caught up with some of the losses you see people take online. Many of those gamblers are paid to do what they do and their emotions aren’t always genuine. The ones that are and I’m sure there are plenty of them are likely heartbreaking to see, but that’s why people stream their gambling efforts, so they can receive gifts from those that watch.
Basically we just have to mind our own business not being moved by any amount a gambler may claim to lose be it genuinely or paid claimers. I believe before anyone should be gambling they are old enough to take responsibility of their actions and decisions so of they choose to let themself lose so much money and expect sympathy from me then that's a lie. To win a bet is not about the amount you use or the number of times you decide to stake your bets, if it's not your lucky day then it's not, no beaten yourself about it else you be incurring more losses and you can't turn to me for sympathy. That's bullshit.
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December 05, 2023, 04:49:29 PM
#66
So, comparing losses to someone else's own, before we stop gambling, is actually a bad practice as gamblers.

I so much agree with you on this very statement you just made above, because the fact that some people lose huge sums while gambling, at times that could be how much they are willing & could afford to lose, unlike if you are a newbie, and then you try to compare yourself with legend gamblers who has got enough funds and willing to risk any amount. Hence, trying to compare yourself or your budget with anybody else is the worst thing any newbie gambler can ever afford to do. Because just as our fingers are not the same, so is our financial strength not the same.
Comparison is not allowed in gambling and should be seen as one of the bad habits and no gambler should ever try source bad act,  because the outcome of this can be highly devastating and for that we can't either avoid group gambling or gambling with friends that may put us in a competitive position,  a lot of time we open to some of those act if we don't keep our gambling activities private and for such it's much more easier to avoid competitions as much as possible.

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December 05, 2023, 04:43:58 PM
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Between remorse, guilt, pain, and anger I wonder which is strongest felt when a gambler losses or even realizes that they have just gambled way their life's savings or money that was supposed to be used for something important. If you have ever been in a bet shop what you will soon realize is that these emotions are but fleeting. They do last up to 30minutes. These gamblers are so full of false hope or disillusion that they believe that they can recover the money they lost if they try again but the story remains the same.

in my opinion, i think combination of those emotions you mentioned are usually the emotions of a losing gambler whose money lost was for some very important allotment. and it will continue if he decide to gamble again hoping to recover his losses, but unfortunately, he will incur more losses. you can easily lose yourself in this process. so if your head is still clear, better pause and assess yourself about your situation why you are walking this route.
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