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December 07, 2023, 05:53:23 PM
It’s just that true. You can only empathize if you yourself understood how it felt to be in that person’s shoes, been in the same shoes myself as I’ve consoled people who lost a lot of money, and been in the shoes of those who lost their money through gambling too.

I think the best thing you could do to someone who’s in that situation is to not only empathize with them, but to also hear what they have to say and perhaps even go so far as to actually verr them towards responsible gambling. Sometimes that’s what would really help them in the long run. And you yourself, might want to look into respnsible gambling as well. Trust me, it’s good.
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December 07, 2023, 05:47:17 PM
A sympathetic gambler is deeply disturbed and needs mental help. Because they are close to becoming addicts and with no proper repercussions the person will continue to lose more in gambling.
They are already addicted and that is the reason why they are sympathetic, they wouldn't be that way if they weren't addicted to gambling or had already spent and lost everything they had. A sympathetic gambler is someone who has gambled and lost everything and is now gaining sympathy either through his condition or facial expressions as said by OP.

Do you know that, most gamblers don't read or research about the effect of gambling and why it was made? Only a few understand that it's for fun, millions of gamblers go there for the money. And end up disappointed.
Yes, I know, and I also know that those who do research and understand the consequences of excessive gambling also become excessive gamblers sometimes, it's not what they want but it's what happens because they lack the required level of patience and self-control to stay out of that red zone.

Assuming addicts researched before gambling and followed the strategies that help in avoiding addictions, they wouldn't have turned addicts.
As I said above, it's not just about knowledge or understanding, sometimes people become addicted even after knowing that they will get addicted if they do certain things and that is because they don't have a patient and disciplined nature.

After a few discoveries I found that you're right. Anybody can be addicted to gambling depending on different factors. Not just self-control, therapists say that we can get addicted without being aware. Maybe after some moments, the brain begins to act in unusual ways. The gambler now discovers he's addicted to gambling. But, won't have the courage to inform anybody or open up to family or others on the outside. In this stage of addiction, the gambler gets exposed to more problem gambling. Spending money without calculating and ends up becoming a sympathetic gambler. Then it could be a serious stage of addiction according to your context. It doesn't seem like the first stage of gambling addiction, where the player still enjoys gambling thrills and invests more time into gambling, and avoiding other social activities. Why I said something about sympathetic gambling as a way towards gambling addiction, before you changed my perspective, is that even newbie gamblers experience the same thing. Most people who we see wearing angry faces are new gamblers. Who have been disappointed, or carried away by thinking that they've not lost enough money like the other guy who just left. Hence, they'll trust trying more luck could bring a change to their current losing spree.

Then in the next process, the player will get desperate, seeking more wins, and hopelessness erupts in the life of the gambler. He won't see things the good way anymore. Gambling will be the priority on their daily list. So, not being aware of these things or the disadvantages of gambling doesn't make any difference for those who do? Don't you think a percentage of gamblers who do their research, escape addiction? regardless of the whole odds being against the player. I mean not everyone gets addicted, after discovering the importance of money management and practicing it. That is creating a strategy for limiting how money is spent. May be having a daily transaction limit on the bank account. At least the gambler is one step ahead of getting addiction, because his money gets cut, whenever he tries to gamble more than his daily limit. In my first response, reading and practicing what we've read is still effective. You're right, for those who don't practice what they've read about escaping addiction.  
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December 07, 2023, 03:47:49 PM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.
Focusing on others probably to sympathize with them or probably to console them dose no good as that will not help them het back their money neither will it help them win their next trial so it's mostly of no use trying to console or sypatize with them unnecessarily room long enough.

It's only reasonable to learn from others mistakes buy not dwelling on them because it has no positive impact as to helping you getting better at your game, its just proper you improve your performance by learning from these mistakes and help your strategy become better and manage your risk even better knowing how well it could affect your bankroll if you are not careful well enough with your management strategy.
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December 07, 2023, 03:22:35 PM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Losses are inevitable in gambling, and the more you decide to gamble more, the higher the chances that you'll end up losing. My point here is that no one forces you to lose yourself and your funds, it's your decision to gamble and lose. So why would you ask for a condolence winning when you know it's your fault why you used up all your budget and funds.

This is why learn to gamble on the amount that you can afford to lose. Gambling is a form of entertainment, and not a source of money making. You can always chose to gamble but set your betting limit amount that you are comfortable losing, that way you won't be regretting later on.
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December 07, 2023, 01:47:37 PM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Crazy but this is exactly what one of my friend was actually arguing some nights back. The argument well not actually an argument but it was like a sigh of relief when he Heard some of his colleague complain and talk about the huge sum of cash they actually lose out to gambling site and other means of betting. He said that whenever he heard people complain about the huge some of cash they have lost , it made him feel as if he is still sane and so rulling out the fact that it he is actually wasting money but I had to tell or advice him taking refuge on other people losses in gambling is actually a stupid idea because the money he lost is still his own and he is responsible for that foolishness.
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December 07, 2023, 01:39:44 PM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.

In addition, each gambler has a different approach to his gambling involvement, each person has a different amount of loss and we have to put a little question mark on those who have a large amount of loss about how they can experience such a large amount of loss. It is a matter of luck that everyone has different luck whether it is in terms of the amount of winnings or when they will win.

If you see the situation of others who always seem to be profitable then you want to have the same luck as them then believe me the final result of your experiment 90% will not match the results they get, it could be greater and could be lower or even not produce at all. It's too complicated because everyone has a different portion of luck, so of course it's better to take care of yourself rather than always being affected by other people's situations. Lastly, it makes no sense to compare yourself to others especially when it comes to luck, because it's always unknowable when it comes and how much it will be if you win.
Different approach indeed on which not all people would really be that mindful on whatever actions that they are making. Losing up your composure is really just that normal because no one really likes on losing money
on which if the results of the game that we are playing turns out to be negative then it would really be that basically reflecting on how you would really be that reacting into that one. We are really just that
human beings and just like been said by some people above that we are really that emotional beings on which it would be basing up on what are the things that you are dealing with.

This is why it is really that important that on the time that you are dealing with gambling then you should really expect the unexpected specially when it comes to results. When gambling then it would be always pertain
about neither losing or winning which would really vary or depending on how lucky you are because not all would really be that on the same level on being lucky and this is why it would really be
that resulting into different conditions and situations on which a certain person or individual might be able to experience. Emotional impulsiveness would also be different and this is why
we do see someone who do react more compared to another one. Control does really vary!
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December 07, 2023, 01:36:05 PM
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Those who have experienced a lot of losses in gambling certainly don't count how much money they have spent gambling and they really care about how much money other people have spent gambling, when someone has won a big win, of course they have forgotten about the defeat. that they have got.
You are right, people who care too much about other people when gambling, of course they never think about themselves and when they suffer the same defeat, of course other people will not necessarily care about the defeat they get.
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December 07, 2023, 01:08:20 PM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

I only sympathise with those who gamble ignorantly without knowing the extent of damage their involvement can do to their finances. For those who have gambled for long and have become gamblers, I have little or no sympathy towards them as they already know the pros and the cons of the trade.

Gambling is a conscious event that is walked into with all senses intact. Except for newbies, oldies are used to loses so no need wasting sympathy.
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December 07, 2023, 12:51:17 PM
They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?


In terms of mathematics, of course you are the one who has lost a lot of money in gambling. However, keep in mind that each person has their own limitations and abilities. There are those who think that losing 50k is a very large amount and there are those who say that losing 50K is a small amount, this depends on a person's financial and mental condition. Because there are people who are financially incapable but force themselves to gamble and risk all the money they have and the largest amount they have at that time is 50K, then when they experience a defeat they will really regret it. and it could be that the largest bet amount he has spent is the smallest amount ever spent by someone who is financially sufficient.

Meanwhile, for people who have a bad mentality, when they experience a loss of any amount, they will assume that it is quite a large amount, because they are really unable to accept a loss when gambling.
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December 07, 2023, 10:51:16 AM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.

In addition, each gambler has a different approach to his gambling involvement, each person has a different amount of loss and we have to put a little question mark on those who have a large amount of loss about how they can experience such a large amount of loss. It is a matter of luck that everyone has different luck whether it is in terms of the amount of winnings or when they will win.

If you see the situation of others who always seem to be profitable then you want to have the same luck as them then believe me the final result of your experiment 90% will not match the results they get, it could be greater and could be lower or even not produce at all. It's too complicated because everyone has a different portion of luck, so of course it's better to take care of yourself rather than always being affected by other people's situations. Lastly, it makes no sense to compare yourself to others especially when it comes to luck, because it's always unknowable when it comes and how much it will be if you win.
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December 07, 2023, 10:32:43 AM
They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?



To answer the question for you all, that person who has lost higher percentage of his bankroll proportional to his bankroll is the one that has lost more and the one that deserve sympathy if at all that is done in gambling because everyone who has come to gamble should have the knowledge that they are staking for winning or for losing and that one of the outcome will come to them.
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December 07, 2023, 10:17:53 AM
I think it would be more accurate to make an evaluation or comparison by considering how much money a person loses in gambling compared to his/her financial situation rather than how much money he/she loses. Since everyone has a different financial situation, the 100 units that person A will lose may not be a very high amount for this person but the 50 units that person B will lose may be a high amount for this person.

This is a logical approach, considering that we are all (as gamblers) fellow losers, and our situation is not much better. Loss assessment cannot be accurate if the analysis sample is the average of what a person lost in one bet or what he lost in one day or even in a specific period of time, since there are logical standards that can be adopted and better results can be obtained. The easiest of these indicators is to compare the amount that the gambler loses in a certain period of playing time with his budget in general and whether the amount lost does not affect his budget in general. Some results will be different from the normal evaluation because you may find a person who lost $500 without it affecting his financial budget, while another person lost only $20, which is all he has to meet his needs.
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December 07, 2023, 10:03:00 AM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

This is just an excuse that they are giving themselves to justify their loss but in reality, it is not the same.

Let's take two individual, one who make $2000 a month and the other who make $50K a month now talking about the loss of the individual who lost $200 is worse compared to the loss of $1000 by the second individual.

If you ever try to convince yourself then avoid it, it can't do anything good for you in long run.
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December 07, 2023, 09:56:47 AM
They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?

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December 07, 2023, 09:45:54 AM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning.
The expression on their faces is their problem.

There is no mercy or pity for greedy gamblers who do not know how to manage their finances and are ready to take risks in a game in which the advantage is on the side of the casino. They deserve only contempt.

While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.
So you console yourself with the fact that they are more losers than you?

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.
Not at all. This happens because even after becoming bankrupt they cannot learn the simple truth - “the casino always wins”. It's stupid to try to beat the casino and it's very expensive. If a gambler is not able to understand what’s what, then the attitude towards him will be appropriate (no sympathy for them).

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
I don't know what they believe, but I believe that they are all at a loss.

The only winner is the one who bypasses the casino.
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December 07, 2023, 08:58:24 AM
A sympathetic gambler is deeply disturbed and needs mental help. Because they are close to becoming addicts and with no proper repercussions the person will continue to lose more in gambling.
They are already addicted and that is the reason why they are sympathetic, they wouldn't be that way if they weren't addicted to gambling or had already spent and lost everything they had. A sympathetic gambler is someone who has gambled and lost everything and is now gaining sympathy either through his condition or facial expressions as said by OP.

Do you know that, most gamblers don't read or research about the effect of gambling and why it was made? Only a few understand that it's for fun, millions of gamblers go there for the money. And end up disappointed.
Yes, I know, and I also know that those who do research and understand the consequences of excessive gambling also become excessive gamblers sometimes, it's not what they want but it's what happens because they lack the required level of patience and self-control to stay out of that red zone.

Assuming addicts researched before gambling and followed the strategies that help in avoiding addictions, they wouldn't have turned addicts.
As I said above, it's not just about knowledge or understanding, sometimes people become addicted even after knowing that they will get addicted if they do certain things and that is because they don't have a patient and disciplined nature.
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December 07, 2023, 06:39:59 AM
when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.
You are right in saying it is better to focus on our own money because that is the reality. We can't pay attention to other people's money, especially if we are not gambling together. We will not be able to be responsible for other people's money so we better focus on controlling ourselves in gambling and let other people be responsible with their money. If they lose a lot of money, that is their risk because it means they cannot be responsible with their money and are too eager to chase wins or recover their losses. We don't need to follow what they do because we have our own responsibilities.
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December 07, 2023, 06:29:30 AM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Doesnt matter in regarding the difference when it comes to exact amount or value because we do have the same thing on here which it is "LOSING". Doesnt matter whether you do
lose small amounts or big ones then it would be still a lose and there's no way on turning it back not unless if you would really be that lucky with your next gambling bet then it would be possible but it is something that wont really be that ideal on having that kind of approach because it would really be that making you desperate and would be pushing you out of your limits and this is where
gamblers do really mess up their entire lives when it comes to finances.

When you are on the foot of those losing gamblers then they dont really care on what are others condition and on how much they have lost already. They would really be just that minding on their own business
and would be minding about on how they would really be able to cover up their losses or trying out to break even.
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December 07, 2023, 06:16:15 AM
I have seen some facial expression gamblers that I am emotionally touched about and feels they have loosed more than they can handle and feels they deserves an condolence winning. While I empathic with him his amount of lost, I am then to consoling myself that someone on here has lost more than I do.

This is exactly how some gamblers runs out of gambling budgets and goes bankrupt because they fails to figure what their net worth or incomes value is.

They are basically to believe one who lost $20 has lost more to them who looses $10.
Many gamblers have this tendency where they gamble depending on the losses of others without thinking about their own losses. If one gambler gets the big jackpot, there is no advantage over the other gambler, in the same way no one get advantages from loss. So I think it's stupid if gambler loses money on his bets and takes solace from seeing the amount others have lost. I will be responsible for my gambling. It should be remembered that my financial situation and his condition are not the same so one should not always bet more than he can afford to lose. One should  not also compare with others gambling loss.
Well said! when it comes to gambling, it is better to focus on your own bankroll, winnings, losses and your own strategy. I never advice to look others situations because I do believe that we have our own path. You have to be responsible in your own actions and do not compare yourself to others because it will lead you to pressure and questioning your self confidence.
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December 07, 2023, 04:54:54 AM
And only by limiting their gambling can they reduce the amount they lose. We must understand that gambling is not a way to make money. We can only use it as a way to get entertainment and nothing more.
Yes, limit gambling and limit your budget so that you don't play beyond your limits. Sometimes people always gamble beyond their limits because they don't limit their gambling budget. That's why gamblers often play uncontrollably and spend a lot of their money until they lose consciousness and become bankrupt because an addiction they never knew they had.

If people want to think like that, consider gambling as entertainment, maybe they won't play recklessly and beyond their limits, of course they will choose to gamble responsibly, therefore, never gamble if you can't control yourself because gambling is not a place for you. looking for money, when you experience defeat you should stop playing, not continue the game which will result in big losses. that's what gamblers must understand.

Sympathetic gambling is not encouraged in the first instance. Limiting money or playtime is a bit of advice for gamblers who need it. A sympathetic gambler is deeply disturbed and needs mental help. Because they are close to becoming addicts and with no proper repercussions the person will continue to lose more in gambling. Surprised to see such gamblers do exist, or is it just a normal way of gambling that ends up putting anger on the faces of those gamblers we see leaving in a hurry? They'll never value gambling as entertainment. Do you know that, most gamblers don't read or research about the effect of gambling and why it was made? Only a few understand that it's for fun, millions of gamblers go there for the money. And end up disappointed. Assuming addicts researched before gambling and followed the strategies that help in avoiding addictions, they wouldn't have turned addicts. Players go to the extent of taking huge loans to gamble. Limiting budgets wouldn't sound like good advise to them, because they need the winning to come so big. The reverse now becomes the case, as they'll be seeing the losses in huge amounts.
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