Topic: Sympathetic gamblers looses itself - page 5. (Read 1261 times)

Yes, maybe the person said by the OP spent more money than the limits so that they experienced big losses and made them feel disappointed with the gambling they played, it's okay, this can be a lesson for them and they are forced to stop doing these activities, at least they can think for a moment if gambling cannot be used as a source of income and the most important thing is that the person does not take out loans to continue their activities or try to catch up on these losses because it is very likely that they will experienced losses again and again.

Indeed, basically gambling should be seen as a means of entertainment, not as a mean of fortune for those who are hopeless or feel lacking in their daily income, so they hope that gambling can give them new hope when they win. This is the thinking of people who cannot think sensibly that they should not have high hopes in gambling because gambling is not a sure way to make money.
Of course, with sympathy, you can advise people who fail in their gambling to think realistically because gambling is not for making money.

If I take it literally, I also agree that gambling is a place to make money or double money, because if we are lucky then we will get a win that makes the balance we have at the beginning become a lot, the amount is also uncertain because it is a random system, but if it is to be the main income in life I myself do not recommend it.

Gambling will indeed be fun if we can consider it as entertainment not as a source of income, because if you consider it as the main income it will be sad in the future, because most of those who consider gambling as the main income like that they experience losing a lot of money because of the pursuit of victory as well as this will destroy a person's life where his life is peaceful and calm, if they are already addicted then there will be a difference in their behavior which may also be negative. in contrast to considering it as a means of entertainment, someone will have a limit on gambling not to gamble excessively because they are aware of the impact that gambling has on it is not playing. So even though it can be interpreted as a money multiplier but we should not get addicted to it because it is not a good thing.

The players who are more gestural and who show more of their Conditions, it is quite obvious that they have a weakness, because they are Basically making known what they are doing or what they may be thinking at any given Moment , I am not one to see faces much , of course in a Physical casino, because in an online casino there is no way to see it, but this can be a great weakness when playing poker, because the gestures of Many can see that they are waiting for a good moment, or a bad moment and that It is evident, those are the things that we must see to be able to start, and of course everything goes to the level where it can be taken into account that when many things are done to win, some do not work, in this sense, when I am in physical casinos If I see the hearts of some of the handsome people, some show emotion, another I see the face that if someone approaches them they Basically eat it because they are so Angry , I mean I don't Understand it, because with the exception of them they are better than when they are They get angry with you , because they show everyone in the face like that, in this case that Should not be done, Because it is information, those are also things that we must take care of ourselves.

This means a lot because there are people and players who show their emotions, of course it is clear to point out that not only are we equal, at least when I am in a place I do not show my emotions, rather I am serious, of course except when I am with my friends , perhaps drinking beers, talking like that, that is something else, and then it goes to another plane, but in matters like this we must see that when it comes to doing or going beyond, the fact of Seeing the face of someone with discomfort or that they are doing well or badly, that is interpreted as information that sometimes many can take advantage of , either to do something else or to be present so that they can see What they are playing to see. if some of that good luck rubs off on them.

It’s just that true. You can only empathize if you yourself understood how it felt to be in that person’s shoes, been in the same shoes myself as I’ve consoled people who lost a lot of money, and been in the shoes of those who lost their money through gambling too.

I think the best thing you could do to someone who’s in that situation is to not only empathize with them, but to also hear what they have to say and perhaps even go so far as to actually verr them towards responsible gambling. Sometimes that’s what would really help them in the long run. And you yourself, might want to look into respnsible gambling as well. Trust me, it’s good.

After a few discoveries I found that you're right. Anybody can be addicted to gambling depending on different factors. Not just self-control, therapists say that we can get addicted without being aware. Maybe after some moments, the brain begins to act in unusual ways. The gambler now discovers he's addicted to gambling. But, won't have the courage to inform anybody or open up to family or others on the outside. In this stage of addiction, the gambler gets exposed to more problem gambling. Spending money without calculating and ends up becoming a sympathetic gambler. Then it could be a serious stage of addiction according to your context. It doesn't seem like the first stage of gambling addiction, where the player still enjoys gambling thrills and invests more time into gambling, and avoiding other social activities. Why I said something about sympathetic gambling as a way towards gambling addiction, before you changed my perspective, is that even newbie gamblers experience the same thing. Most people who we see wearing angry faces are new gamblers. Who have been disappointed, or carried away by thinking that they've not lost enough money like the other guy who just left. Hence, they'll trust trying more luck could bring a change to their current losing spree.

Then in the next process, the player will get desperate, seeking more wins, and hopelessness erupts in the life of the gambler. He won't see things the good way anymore. Gambling will be the priority on their daily list. So, not being aware of these things or the disadvantages of gambling doesn't make any difference for those who do? Don't you think a percentage of gamblers who do their research, escape addiction? regardless of the whole odds being against the player. I mean not everyone gets addicted, after discovering the importance of money management and practicing it. That is creating a strategy for limiting how money is spent. May be having a daily transaction limit on the bank account. At least the gambler is one step ahead of getting addiction, because his money gets cut, whenever he tries to gamble more than his daily limit. In my first response, reading and practicing what we've read is still effective. You're right, for those who don't practice what they've read about escaping addiction.  

Focusing on others probably to sympathize with them or probably to console them dose no good as that will not help them het back their money neither will it help them win their next trial so it's mostly of no use trying to console or sypatize with them unnecessarily room long enough.

It's only reasonable to learn from others mistakes buy not dwelling on them because it has no positive impact as to helping you getting better at your game, its just proper you improve your performance by learning from these mistakes and help your strategy become better and manage your risk even better knowing how well it could affect your bankroll if you are not careful well enough with your management strategy.

Losses are inevitable in gambling, and the more you decide to gamble more, the higher the chances that you'll end up losing. My point here is that no one forces you to lose yourself and your funds, it's your decision to gamble and lose. So why would you ask for a condolence winning when you know it's your fault why you used up all your budget and funds.

This is why learn to gamble on the amount that you can afford to lose. Gambling is a form of entertainment, and not a source of money making. You can always chose to gamble but set your betting limit amount that you are comfortable losing, that way you won't be regretting later on.

Crazy but this is exactly what one of my friend was actually arguing some nights back. The argument well not actually an argument but it was like a sigh of relief when he Heard some of his colleague complain and talk about the huge sum of cash they actually lose out to gambling site and other means of betting. He said that whenever he heard people complain about the huge some of cash they have lost , it made him feel as if he is still sane and so rulling out the fact that it he is actually wasting money but I had to tell or advice him taking refuge on other people losses in gambling is actually a stupid idea because the money he lost is still his own and he is responsible for that foolishness.

Different approach indeed on which not all people would really be that mindful on whatever actions that they are making. Losing up your composure is really just that normal because no one really likes on losing money
on which if the results of the game that we are playing turns out to be negative then it would really be that basically reflecting on how you would really be that reacting into that one. We are really just that
human beings and just like been said by some people above that we are really that emotional beings on which it would be basing up on what are the things that you are dealing with.

This is why it is really that important that on the time that you are dealing with gambling then you should really expect the unexpected specially when it comes to results. When gambling then it would be always pertain
about neither losing or winning which would really vary or depending on how lucky you are because not all would really be that on the same level on being lucky and this is why it would really be
that resulting into different conditions and situations on which a certain person or individual might be able to experience. Emotional impulsiveness would also be different and this is why
we do see someone who do react more compared to another one. Control does really vary!

Those who have experienced a lot of losses in gambling certainly don't count how much money they have spent gambling and they really care about how much money other people have spent gambling, when someone has won a big win, of course they have forgotten about the defeat. that they have got.
You are right, people who care too much about other people when gambling, of course they never think about themselves and when they suffer the same defeat, of course other people will not necessarily care about the defeat they get.

I only sympathise with those who gamble ignorantly without knowing the extent of damage their involvement can do to their finances. For those who have gambled for long and have become gamblers, I have little or no sympathy towards them as they already know the pros and the cons of the trade.

Gambling is a conscious event that is walked into with all senses intact. Except for newbies, oldies are used to loses so no need wasting sympathy.

In terms of mathematics, of course you are the one who has lost a lot of money in gambling. However, keep in mind that each person has their own limitations and abilities. There are those who think that losing 50k is a very large amount and there are those who say that losing 50K is a small amount, this depends on a person's financial and mental condition. Because there are people who are financially incapable but force themselves to gamble and risk all the money they have and the largest amount they have at that time is 50K, then when they experience a defeat they will really regret it. and it could be that the largest bet amount he has spent is the smallest amount ever spent by someone who is financially sufficient.

Meanwhile, for people who have a bad mentality, when they experience a loss of any amount, they will assume that it is quite a large amount, because they are really unable to accept a loss when gambling.

In addition, each gambler has a different approach to his gambling involvement, each person has a different amount of loss and we have to put a little question mark on those who have a large amount of loss about how they can experience such a large amount of loss. It is a matter of luck that everyone has different luck whether it is in terms of the amount of winnings or when they will win.

If you see the situation of others who always seem to be profitable then you want to have the same luck as them then believe me the final result of your experiment 90% will not match the results they get, it could be greater and could be lower or even not produce at all. It's too complicated because everyone has a different portion of luck, so of course it's better to take care of yourself rather than always being affected by other people's situations. Lastly, it makes no sense to compare yourself to others especially when it comes to luck, because it's always unknowable when it comes and how much it will be if you win.

To answer the question for you all, that person who has lost higher percentage of his bankroll proportional to his bankroll is the one that has lost more and the one that deserve sympathy if at all that is done in gambling because everyone who has come to gamble should have the knowledge that they are staking for winning or for losing and that one of the outcome will come to them.

This is a logical approach, considering that we are all (as gamblers) fellow losers, and our situation is not much better. Loss assessment cannot be accurate if the analysis sample is the average of what a person lost in one bet or what he lost in one day or even in a specific period of time, since there are logical standards that can be adopted and better results can be obtained. The easiest of these indicators is to compare the amount that the gambler loses in a certain period of playing time with his budget in general and whether the amount lost does not affect his budget in general. Some results will be different from the normal evaluation because you may find a person who lost $500 without it affecting his financial budget, while another person lost only $20, which is all he has to meet his needs.

This is just an excuse that they are giving themselves to justify their loss but in reality, it is not the same.

Let's take two individual, one who make $2000 a month and the other who make $50K a month now talking about the loss of the individual who lost $200 is worse compared to the loss of $1000 by the second individual.

If you ever try to convince yourself then avoid it, it can't do anything good for you in long run.

The question should be, how much is 20k worth to the one lost it and how much is 10k worth to the person who lost it. Bankroll differs amongst gamblers, supposedly my bankroll is over 100k and then I loose 50k, and then another gambler's bankroll is around 10k and he looses 9k, who would you say have lost more money. Me or the other gambler?

The expression on their faces is their problem.

There is no mercy or pity for greedy gamblers who do not know how to manage their finances and are ready to take risks in a game in which the advantage is on the side of the casino. They deserve only contempt.

So you console yourself with the fact that they are more losers than you?

Not at all. This happens because even after becoming bankrupt they cannot learn the simple truth - “the casino always wins”. It's stupid to try to beat the casino and it's very expensive. If a gambler is not able to understand what’s what, then the attitude towards him will be appropriate (no sympathy for them).

I don't know what they believe, but I believe that they are all at a loss.

The only winner is the one who bypasses the casino.

They are already addicted and that is the reason why they are sympathetic, they wouldn't be that way if they weren't addicted to gambling or had already spent and lost everything they had. A sympathetic gambler is someone who has gambled and lost everything and is now gaining sympathy either through his condition or facial expressions as said by OP.

Yes, I know, and I also know that those who do research and understand the consequences of excessive gambling also become excessive gamblers sometimes, it's not what they want but it's what happens because they lack the required level of patience and self-control to stay out of that red zone.

As I said above, it's not just about knowledge or understanding, sometimes people become addicted even after knowing that they will get addicted if they do certain things and that is because they don't have a patient and disciplined nature.

You are right in saying it is better to focus on our own money because that is the reality. We can't pay attention to other people's money, especially if we are not gambling together. We will not be able to be responsible for other people's money so we better focus on controlling ourselves in gambling and let other people be responsible with their money. If they lose a lot of money, that is their risk because it means they cannot be responsible with their money and are too eager to chase wins or recover their losses. We don't need to follow what they do because we have our own responsibilities.