Topic: Synthetic gold from LENR reactors could drive crypto to insane levels - page 2. (Read 14938 times)

Sooner or later, we are probably going to see compact fusion reactors, asteroid mining, and 3D-printed fusion reactor-powered fully automated starships with golden toilets which themselves are able to print fusion reactor-powered fully automated starships with golden toilets. But no, I don't think this is going to happen soon, and, as others mentioned, not with fission reactors, because those don't produce gold in any significant amounts, and fuel for those reactors is probably more expensive than gold, anyway.

of all the rare metals, Palladium sticks out since it has appreciated more than others and still is relatively close to 2010-2011 highs - while others, like gold silver or platinum, have dropped a lot since then. This anomaly could be coincidence, or some people knowing more than others

Facts don't matter to True Skeptics.

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Fake science?

  Do you really think that NASA never ever employed brain sick people? LENR is a fake. Fake science can be easily detected by fact that nobody can reproduce same results.

Fusion of more heavy atoms than hydrogen is easier to achieved. check lithium fusion...


and leopard2 comparing dynamos with electrostatic generators is retarded... there were always tiny electrostatic generators...

You can register interest.  It's not a pre-order:  No funds change hands.

You can actually buy a 1 MW plant now, for industrial use.  At least one has been sold, to the US Navy IIRC.

yeah that's what I thought but dead wrong, they take pre-orders for 10kW single family home heaters.

http://ecat.com/

Fill out the form for an e-cat home ...  

Or the Swiss page, where it says the pre-orders will start shipping in 2015

http://www.ecatschweiz.com/Prodotti.html

Will they deliver before Butterflylabs?  

Now, if you want to know what the government will do to us goyim with LENR energy, The Hunger Games are a possible approximation.



Have a nice sleep, again. 

how could a bacteria create gold without fusing? you cannot "create" something out of nothing. when you break it down into plain chemistry/physics gold is nothing more then electrons, neutrons, and protons. So gold can only be gained by fusing lighter elements (like the sun does, or hydrogen bombs) or split heavy elements.

http://fusioned.gat.com/what_is_fusion.html

Fusion of more heavy atoms then hydrogen is even harder to archieve and cold fusion should take a high vacuum (technically not possible till now) or a whole new technology.

It's fundamentally the same phenomenon.  Works in Pd and Ni matrices so far.  Detailed mechanisms may differ. however, between the media.  It doesn't much matter if it is politically incorrect in the long run.  Truth will out.  Sadly we've lost 30 years of technology to corruption.

Chernobyl shouldn't be discussed in league with other nuclear power accidents because it was a coal fire.  That reactor was foolishly designed to use carbon as a moderator instead of water.  Once the reactor melted, the carbon moderator caught fire and burned like high-grade anthracite coal.  The carbon fire did what hot coal fires do--it churned a lot hot smoke into the air, pulling with it lots and lots of of radioactive particulate debris.

Most of those workers who got toasted got it while trying to put the coal fire out. All the citizens that got exposed to radioactive material got it as a result of the coal fire pumping it in the air.  Extremely foolish design.

Fukushima had a comity of errors, the most glaring one, to my way of thinking, was to skimp on emergency generators by putting them on trucks and thinking they could drive them wherever they were needed in an emergency.  Didn't anyone notice that emergencies often come with impassible roads?  If they had had emergency generators, they could have at least kept the reactors cool enough to not meltdown and therefore not release radioactive material.

I remember all the excitement back in 1989 with the cold fusion story which turned out to be a dud. Hopefully LENR reactors won't end up the same way.

Oh wait....turns out LENR is the new name for cold fusion.

 

It's regularory issue... Not like there hasn't been massive results in other industries... And compare the deaths per energy produced...

Fukushima and Chernobyl could both have been averted. We just need stronger policies and regulation. My understanding is that in Fukushima the meltdown could have been averted if the proposed fixed would have been done... The systems worked fine during and after the earthquakes. Problem was the design and auxiliary systems that couldn't handle the tsunami... And it was 40 year old plant, I wouldn't compare that to modern new designs.

Ask that to the folks who used to live in Fukushima. Yes, nuclear power plants are safe on a relatively small time scale. But when you look at a scale that spans decades, most are not built to withstand regularly occuring natural disasters like earthquakes.

You appeal to logic.  The media does not.

At least I learned something new today.
Hope you can sleep tonight ....
Maybe later this morning 

LENR isn't nuclear in the same context that people consider nuclear power plants. LENR is never going to make large amounts of energy; hence the name: Low Energy Nuclear Reactor. People who fear LENR might be afraid of the interactions between the atoms in their own body if somebody said they were "nuclear". People allow themselves to be misled too easily.

LENR has a positive yield in that the heat generated by the reaction between nickel and hydrogen can be converted to a relatively weak current of electricity for a relatively long period of time...

I think LENR has potential for development but you aren't going to be running your house off of a LENR any time soon.

I think there's more energy to be scrounged from our surroundings that can be cheaply captured. Creating energy is expensive, converting wasted radiant energy is cheap.

Lots of energy wasted all around us:

- Wave-particle duality is a Quantum Mechanical property of subatomic particles that will allow a nano chain of benzene rings (or any nano-tubular conductor) to efficiently convert waste heat into electricity. The greater the temperature differential between the ends of the chain; the greater the electrical output.
http://uanews.org/story/turning-waste-heat-power

- Metamaterials (Quantum Mechanics; just like above only different configurations of different elements) can be configured to harvest a diverse array of different types of waste energy, microwave energy, RF energy, vibrations, UV radiation, Cosmic radiation, ect...
http://www.pratt.duke.edu/news/wireless-device-converts-lost-energy-electric-power

Just to name a few, there's cheap power all around us and the interesting thing about these discoveries is the simplicity. These nano structures form naturally (think about growing a crystal) when you place an object in contact with a gas containing the elements.

How many new regular nuclear power plants have been approved in the US since the Three Mile Island (TMI) accident back in the '70s?

If there have been any, there haven't been many.  And why?  Is nuclear power unprofitable?  Is it unsafe?  Does it pollute?  NO to all of these.  So what's the problem?

The media whipped up huge amounts of lasting fear at TMI.  Then they wrongly associated the carbon moderated, poorly designed, poorly shielded reactor at Chernobyl with the much safer water moderated, water cooled reactors that are common in the US.  The result was a confidence meltdown.  Japan's bad plan of putting emergency generators on trucks, leading to the Fukushima disaster didn't soothe either.

No, you can't do ANYTHING nuclear anymore.  It doesn't matter how sound or good.  Fear is the media's bread and butter and nuclear fear has been pure gold for them.

If energy was to become really cheap just manufacturing fuel and other related tools would make regular mining more affordable...

Cheap energy means cheaper running cost and equipment costs which allows mining cheaper gold...

So there isn't really any point for synthetic stuff...

I understand your point.

Yes LENR is uncertain at this point. However: the first electricity was generated with electrostatic generators. Huge machines, tall like a house, generating very small amounts of current. Then someone invented the dynamo and the world changed.  



Compare to

Today fusion is considered a technology that needs giant machines to produce very little.

We may be at a point before the dynamo is invented, or we may not be, we just don't know.