Topic: T17e review. - page 3. (Read 1756 times)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!
Yeah these are more finicky then s-9's
Most miners I have seen have 0-40C range.
I have the opposite problem. They stop hashing when it becomes too cold. Say -13C oustside temp, not sure what’s it inside the data center.
You do know that recommended ambient temperature is 15 to 35C?
I have the opposite problem. They stop hashing when it becomes too cold. Say -13C oustside temp, not sure what’s it inside the data center.
It appears this model is very sensitive when it comes to temps (it must be to protect the cheaper/weaker chips used in the T model as compared to the 'better' ones used in the S models?! ).
I believe now that the power off (weird as it stopped hashing but the ventilators were going at 100% I believe) mode was due to protecting the hashing boards.
What I still hope to understand is why did it reoccur even after disabling the fan limit.
This has not happened again in the past 21 hours
I believe now that the power off (weird as it stopped hashing but the ventilators were going at 100% I believe) mode was due to protecting the hashing boards.
What I still hope to understand is why did it reoccur even after disabling the fan limit.
This has not happened again in the past 21 hours
When the newer bitmain miners stop mining due to heat the control board stays alive, just the hash boards are powered off.
This is how options look for S17e. All I had to do was go inspect elements and change "display:none" to "display:HERE" (I used caps so it can be visible on picture), you can use anything instead of "HERE".
https://imgur.com/a/teF805s
https://imgur.com/a/llVh1A2
As my pictures still won't show up here even after I tried changing resolutions you will have 2 links bellow with full resolution.
Inspect elements edit: https://imgur.com/a/ITxeDRQ
Result in Miner Configuration: https://imgur.com/a/VNlcVUK
https://imgur.com/a/teF805s
https://imgur.com/a/llVh1A2
As my pictures still won't show up here even after I tried changing resolutions you will have 2 links bellow with full resolution.
Inspect elements edit: https://imgur.com/a/ITxeDRQ
Result in Miner Configuration: https://imgur.com/a/VNlcVUK
As with all things mechanical and otherwise...everything is "trade offs". As far as ASIC capacity goes, manufacturers are pushing the limits of these new chip densities. I am far from impressed at the fortitude of the 7nm technology. They are all relatively fickle and overly sensitive. Of course I am spoiled. I doubt we will ever see units as robust as the S9's. I've had ventilation go off in my facility and every single S9 shut dwn due to very intense heat. Let them cool down for a while and fire them back up. ( with the ventilation fixed of course). They just jump back online and hash away happily like nothing ever happened. These new units...if this happens or they get too hot...it's RMA city. Dead boards, cooked PSU's etc. My S9 attrition rate on units that were 2-3 years old last year was less than 5%. Now with a fair representation across the 7nm entrants, I'm pushing 12-15% RMA within months of onboarding the gear. This is even with augmenting cooling and ventilation in the facilities.
Watch your PCB temps.
According to https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005088914-Miner-normal-operating-temperature-range
T17 max temp is only 75deg C
According to https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005088914-Miner-normal-operating-temperature-range
T17 max temp is only 75deg C
It appears this model is very sensitive when it comes to temps (it must be to protect the cheaper/weaker chips used in the T model as compared to the 'better' ones used in the S models?! ).
I believe now that the power off (weird as it stopped hashing but the ventilators were going at 100% I believe) mode was due to protecting the hashing boards.
What I still hope to understand is why did it reoccur even after disabling the fan limit.
This has not happened again in the past 21 hours
Watch your PCB temps.
According to https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005088914-Miner-normal-operating-temperature-range
T17 max temp is only 75deg C
According to https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005088914-Miner-normal-operating-temperature-range
T17 max temp is only 75deg C
First fail in 8 hours of testing is this one (translated by google to mean: 'No Data!'):
*my first image that works, thank you philipma1957
Causes unknown, kernel log will not help with much yet, but will email Bitmain to see what they say.
Only settings mingled with was the fan speed locked at 60% which appear to have been overridden to 100% as seen above.
So far the solution to it was to disable the fan control speed and restart the miner and wait for an amazing 10 to 15 minutes for it to start hashing again
Edit:
This has now happened again, 1 hour after the first time.
*my first image that works, thank you philipma1957
Causes unknown, kernel log will not help with much yet, but will email Bitmain to see what they say.
Only settings mingled with was the fan speed locked at 60% which appear to have been overridden to 100% as seen above.
So far the solution to it was to disable the fan control speed and restart the miner and wait for an amazing 10 to 15 minutes for it to start hashing again
Edit:
This has now happened again, 1 hour after the first time.
The device is running with its standard settings (ie. sleep mode fans at around 60%)
Current sound (Decibels) taken next to it: https://imgur.com/a/rBPaPuQ
And sound generated by it through a door and being 10 meters (32 feet) away from it is https://imgur.com/gallery/Wqme014 https://imgur.com/a/cgMXWZ7
Note to Bitmain: make them run a half the Wattage and I could actually afford to mine home
Thank you philipma1957, glad I could give something back to this amazing place.
I still cannot make the photos visible from links, will look into it.
Current sound (Decibels) taken next to it: https://imgur.com/a/rBPaPuQ
And sound generated by it through a door and being 10 meters (32 feet) away from it is https://imgur.com/gallery/Wqme014 https://imgur.com/a/cgMXWZ7
Note to Bitmain: make them run a half the Wattage and I could actually afford to mine home
Thank you philipma1957, glad I could give something back to this amazing place.
I still cannot make the photos visible from links, will look into it.
go to imgur.com
click auto resize then make the imgur photo size 1600x1200 or 1280x1024 or 1024x768
The device is running with its standard settings (ie. sleep mode fans at around 60%)
Current sound (Decibels) taken next to it: https://imgur.com/a/rBPaPuQ
And sound generated by it through a door and being 10 meters (32 feet) away from it is https://imgur.com/gallery/Wqme014 https://imgur.com/a/cgMXWZ7
Note to Bitmain: make them run a half the Wattage and I could actually afford to mine home
Thank you philipma1957, glad I could give something back to this amazing place.
I still cannot make the photos visible from links, will look into it.
Current sound (Decibels) taken next to it: https://imgur.com/a/rBPaPuQ
And sound generated by it through a door and being 10 meters (32 feet) away from it is https://imgur.com/gallery/Wqme014 https://imgur.com/a/cgMXWZ7
Note to Bitmain: make them run a half the Wattage and I could actually afford to mine home
Thank you philipma1957, glad I could give something back to this amazing place.
I still cannot make the photos visible from links, will look into it.
Inno is crap. Loud, hot, power hungry beasts. I had 10 out of 100 brand new T2T 30 TH/s fail. Some PSU's and some Control boards. The company expects YOU to do all the trouble shooting by swapping PSU's and Control boards between working and broken units. THEN...they make you ask them permission to send warranty repair parts back to them for repair/replacement. They make you send pictures of the matching serial numbers of the effected units. Did I forget to mention you're shipping all the way to China? You pay. Then.....you wait. 30-60 DAYS!!! To Hell with INNO. I'll never send them another dime.
Seems the T17E performance is almost the same as whatsminer M21S 54T, But may i know how much is the noise db of T17E? I tested whatsminers noise, at least 80db.
this is valuable info I gave you 13 merits. this will move you to next level
I have two units. it will help me out others have these you helped them out.
I have two units. it will help me out others have these you helped them out.
Hi Guys,
Had a chance to briefly test one of these as well.
The gear is running smoothly at 54347.46 (54Th), it is quieter (58 dB), pulls 3.12kW from the wall, and beautiful temps on both the hash board and the chips
Board 1 PCB 28-49-27-52 and Chips 50-59-45-64
Board 2 PCB 31-52-34-59 and Chips 53-65-55-70
Board 3 PCB 29-51-34-55 and Chips 54-62-55-66
Sleep mode meaning:
After a few tests found that it means the fans are running at around 59% - 60% - this allows the temperatures from above to be achieved and a very silent miner (compared to others, Inno T2T - 30 I am looking at you!
)
Would not even dare to test it if it would be one power cord probably
.
Can't wait to relocate it and hope for the best in this up and down market
.
Why:
Before this model, on older s9/s you could select fan speed and other functions that were hidden (aka Setup Mode) in the 'Miner Configuration' page if you would have right-clicked and Inspect the page (by searching for Fan_Ctrl and erasing the ':none' after display).
One must/should have the option to view that and this should not be restricted. If one is not responsible then do not play here, but the option has to be there.
With the new T17e (https://imgur.com/a/BMdeqrg) it appeared this has changed, among other things like the Kernel Log in the System tab.
I have managed to find the change and have attached photos on how to do it yourself to unlock the hidden menu again (Setup Mode).
Steps:
1. first step, go to your AntMiner Miner Configuration tab
https://imgur.com/a/Sm9O0p5
2. right-click and select Inspect (in safari is Inspect Element)
https://imgur.com/a/q2bgh49
3. in the search box (mine was on the right lower corner) type fan_ctrl and hit search
https://imgur.com/a/phtiw3B
4. On the second result found, it will allow you to edit the results on your right (NB. once you close the page and open it again you will have to start from number 1 again, as settings will not save and you will not have them visible upon revisiting). - see left-hand side arrow in the image at step 3.
5. in previous miners you could just delete the :none wording and the function would have re-appeared in the menu. Now, you need to activate the menu and then delete the :none value for what you want to change in order to see it, followed by deleting the :none wording for any function that you wish to see in the new area.
https://imgur.com/a/VYodnvm
6. Enjoy your new accessible settings which should look like this:
https://imgur.com/a/4hW4IIM
Also, this equipment is almost 20 dB silent than previous ones. Must be the Sleep mode function.
Moreover, if only delete the :none value no damage will happen to you miner, but if you change the values there - may that be whatever, you bear responsibility for it!
This is how the actual code looks like, you just have to find all the :none and delete them
Had a chance to briefly test one of these as well.
The gear is running smoothly at 54347.46 (54Th), it is quieter (58 dB
), pulls 3.12kW from the wall, and beautiful temps on both the hash board and the chipsBoard 1 PCB 28-49-27-52 and Chips 50-59-45-64
Board 2 PCB 31-52-34-59 and Chips 53-65-55-70
Board 3 PCB 29-51-34-55 and Chips 54-62-55-66
Sleep mode meaning:
After a few tests found that it means the fans are running at around 59% - 60% - this allows the temperatures from above to be achieved and a very silent miner (compared to others, Inno T2T - 30 I am looking at you!
)Would not even dare to test it if it would be one power cord probably
.Can't wait to relocate it and hope for the best in this up and down market
.Why:
Before this model, on older s9/s you could select fan speed and other functions that were hidden (aka Setup Mode) in the 'Miner Configuration' page if you would have right-clicked and Inspect the page (by searching for Fan_Ctrl and erasing the ':none' after display).
One must/should have the option to view that and this should not be restricted. If one is not responsible then do not play here, but the option has to be there.
With the new T17e (https://imgur.com/a/BMdeqrg) it appeared this has changed, among other things like the Kernel Log in the System tab.
I have managed to find the change and have attached photos on how to do it yourself to unlock the hidden menu again (Setup Mode).
Steps:
1. first step, go to your AntMiner Miner Configuration tab
https://imgur.com/a/Sm9O0p5
2. right-click and select Inspect (in safari is Inspect Element)
https://imgur.com/a/q2bgh49
3. in the search box (mine was on the right lower corner) type fan_ctrl and hit search
https://imgur.com/a/phtiw3B
4. On the second result found, it will allow you to edit the results on your right (NB. once you close the page and open it again you will have to start from number 1 again, as settings will not save and you will not have them visible upon revisiting). - see left-hand side arrow in the image at step 3.
5. in previous miners you could just delete the :none wording and the function would have re-appeared in the menu. Now, you need to activate the menu and then delete the :none value for what you want to change in order to see it, followed by deleting the :none wording for any function that you wish to see in the new area.
https://imgur.com/a/VYodnvm
6. Enjoy your new accessible settings which should look like this:
https://imgur.com/a/4hW4IIM
Also, this equipment is almost 20 dB silent than previous ones. Must be the Sleep mode function.
Moreover, if only delete the :none value no damage will happen to you miner, but if you change the values there - may that be whatever, you bear responsibility for it!
This is how the actual code looks like, you just have to find all the :none and delete them
Code:
https://www.quora.com/Would-two-identical-processors-have-the-same-performance-on-the-same-benchmark
https://siliconlottery.com/
read this , most if not all my experience is with computer cpu / gpu , but it seems to hold true for most of these high end chips.
https://siliconlottery.com/
read this , most if not all my experience is with computer cpu / gpu , but it seems to hold true for most of these high end chips.
Thank you! merit sent.
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