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If funding was the issue, then how the tours were being organized a decade ago, when the boards were not as rich as they are today? ICC, as well as the national boards have become more money minded and they are simply not interested in developing and grooming talent. Talented young players now face a lot more difficulty in showcasing their skills, especially in the longer formats (test, 4-day) of cricket. In T20, every now and then someone emerges as the new sensation, so that format is not a concern for me.
Few years back funding was no issue as there were good support from ICC for all boards and their own funds was also good with low salaries and not too much hassle I personally read in different magazine and watch there were too many academies and youths were doing good with very low salaries and tours were also going without any trouble but suddenly due to this franchise now these all things killed, and they are now money making machines with having no heart for spending on youths and bring some good and sensational players like we have few years back with solid skills and good talent now suddenly few players arrived and after having few bucks they have gone in background which is giving no good impact on this game.
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If you are able to check few years back we have too many tours from A teams with U-23 as well because these were fruitful but due to recent much interest in franchise this all ends which having some problem for few countries but if ICC is going to have something for IPL then surely they need to bring this back and order big teams about this they regularly sent there A Teams for these associate countries tours which give them good experience for going to join big teams after few years.
Even now realistically this all is not possible because this all need some good funds and ICC is not going to help any country and few boards are not able to do this all by themselves, so we have to say bye bye this all and take big dip in this IPL.
If funding was the issue, then how the tours were being organized a decade ago, when the boards were not as rich as they are today? ICC, as well as the national boards have become more money minded and they are simply not interested in developing and grooming talent. Talented young players now face a lot more difficulty in showcasing their skills, especially in the longer formats (test, 4-day) of cricket. In T20, every now and then someone emerges as the new sensation, so that format is not a concern for me.

I think it is about the revenue. The bilateral cities are not generating as much revenue as they should be today compared to how it has been doing a while back. And I don’t think back then franchisee cricket was also as popular as it is now. And test cricket also had good importance in the international arena. I mean people actually took the test performance into consideration and judged a player by that statistics. Funding is not the problem, the change of era is the problem.
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Tonight Bangladesh vs West Indies first T20 match. The West Indies do not have a few hard hitter batsmen. Like Pollad, Russell, Brabo, the game would have been better if they had. Bangladesh team has everyone who plays in T20 format. I hope the two teams will present a good game.

Well.. Bangladesh performs better in the shorter formats when compared to the longer ones, but this is going to be a very tough challenge for them. The problem for them is that the match is taking place in West Indies, and the track is likely to assist pace bowling. And their opponents do have some very good pacers in Alzarri Joseph, Keemo Paul and Odean Smith. I am afraid that this will turn out to be a one sided affair. But then, it is T20 cricket and nothing can be predicted in advance.   
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Tonight Bangladesh vs West Indies first T20 match. The West Indies do not have a few hard hitter batsmen. Like Pollad, Russell, Brabo, the game would have been better if they had. Bangladesh team has everyone who plays in T20 format. I hope the two teams will present a good game.

Bangladesh will play the first match of today's T20 series after a dismal performance in the Test format. There are fewer experienced players in the West Indies squad. But we all know that the West Indies squad is always good for the T20 format. It will not be easy for Bangladesh to win against West Indies in the T20 format. However, the Bangladeshi players will definitely play to win, because Bangladesh's performance in the Test format was very poor.
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Tonight Bangladesh vs West Indies first T20 match. The West Indies do not have a few hard hitter batsmen. Like Pollad, Russell, Brabo, the game would have been better if they had. Bangladesh team has everyone who plays in T20 format. I hope the two teams will present a good game.
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T20 is a very challenging game and it is very difficult to predict which team will win. Even then, considering some of the players in the team, one can only guess, but since cricket is a game of extreme uncertainty, it is often difficult to prove accurate.
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If funding was the issue, then how the tours were being organized a decade ago, when the boards were not as rich as they are today? ICC, as well as the national boards have become more money minded and they are simply not interested in developing and grooming talent. Talented young players now face a lot more difficulty in showcasing their skills, especially in the longer formats (test, 4-day) of cricket. In T20, every now and then someone emerges as the new sensation, so that format is not a concern for me.

Decade ago cricket was just about playing cricket but after T20 format was introduced and t20 league like IPL has completely revolutionised the cricket. Now for 2 months international crikcet is halted for IPL and icc is not more a controlling body rather its in the hands of big 3.
The spectators that were previously present in all three formats of cricket but their attitude has changed since the advent of T20 format. The T20 league or short form of cricket has now gained immense popularity. Especially since the launch of the IPL, a new dimension has been added to the T20 league.
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If funding was the issue, then how the tours were being organized a decade ago, when the boards were not as rich as they are today? ICC, as well as the national boards have become more money minded and they are simply not interested in developing and grooming talent. Talented young players now face a lot more difficulty in showcasing their skills, especially in the longer formats (test, 4-day) of cricket. In T20, every now and then someone emerges as the new sensation, so that format is not a concern for me.

Decade ago cricket was just about playing cricket but after T20 format was introduced and t20 league like IPL has completely revolutionised the cricket. Now for 2 months international crikcet is halted for IPL and icc is not more a controlling body rather its in the hands of big 3.
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If you are able to check few years back we have too many tours from A teams with U-23 as well because these were fruitful but due to recent much interest in franchise this all ends which having some problem for few countries but if ICC is going to have something for IPL then surely they need to bring this back and order big teams about this they regularly sent there A Teams for these associate countries tours which give them good experience for going to join big teams after few years.

Even now realistically this all is not possible because this all need some good funds and ICC is not going to help any country and few boards are not able to do this all by themselves, so we have to say bye bye this all and take big dip in this IPL.

If funding was the issue, then how the tours were being organized a decade ago, when the boards were not as rich as they are today? ICC, as well as the national boards have become more money minded and they are simply not interested in developing and grooming talent. Talented young players now face a lot more difficulty in showcasing their skills, especially in the longer formats (test, 4-day) of cricket. In T20, every now and then someone emerges as the new sensation, so that format is not a concern for me.
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They will never get a lot of chances to play against the big teams. And that is the way ICC works. Now the BCCI is in talks about blocking 2.5 to 3 months every year for the IPL. The number of ICC tournaments are increasing. Any remaining time will be taken up by bilateral series between the tier 1 test nations. Those in the tier 2 (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) can play amongst themselves and that's all they can do. Get some big wins, such as the upset win by Ireland against England during the 2011 CWC, and there is a chance that the big teams may give 1-2 matches to them once in a while.

I don’t know about others but personally, I think that is not the best decision for cricket in the long run. Often we see if there is one series going on there is not another series going on at the same time. Probably that is done because the revenue doesn’t get split.

But that is another reason why we get very few cricket matches every year. Among the teams which have been playing cricket regularly, there are also some teams facing different types of problems like Pakistan. And all these problems are not going to be fixed unless the number of teams that play cricket regularly increases and giving chances to teams like Ireland more is going to be the only way to do that.
To save the cricket world, small teams should be given more chance for development but we normally see it's opposite situation for week team. It is true that very few cricket match can be watch because of lack of team. Again those who perform well and in the top listed they do not want to play with any small team. I think in this regard icc should be hard and take the initiatives.
I think your thinking is correct.  If smaller cricket teams get a chance to play with bigger teams, I think smaller teams will play better.  And they can learn more.
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Nothing can be done for these Tier2 teams. ICC cannot do anything as BCCI is the biggest revenue generator for them and they will increase the duration of IPL and block international cricket for a few months. The only option left now is that these teams play within themselves and try to improve their game. 
There is another option. If the national teams are too busy with bilateral series, then the tier 1 countries can send their A teams to lower tier nations such as Ireland, Scotland, Namibia and Kenya. 10-15 years back, there used to be such tours from the tier 1 A teams. But now the A team program is in decline and even when they play, it is mostly among themselves. Asking the BCCI or CA to send their regular team to tour Ireland or Scotland is not a viable solution. They will refuse outright, because it makes little sense in terms of revenue.
If you are able to check few years back we have too many tours from A teams with U-23 as well because these were fruitful but due to recent much interest in franchise this all ends which having some problem for few countries but if ICC is going to have something for IPL then surely they need to bring this back and order big teams about this they regularly sent there A Teams for these associate countries tours which give them good experience for going to join big teams after few years.

Even now realistically this all is not possible because this all need some good funds and ICC is not going to help any country and few boards are not able to do this all by themselves, so we have to say bye bye this all and take big dip in this IPL.
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Nothing can be done for these Tier2 teams. ICC cannot do anything as BCCI is the biggest revenue generator for them and they will increase the duration of IPL and block international cricket for a few months. The only option left now is that these teams play within themselves and try to improve their game. 

There is another option. If the national teams are too busy with bilateral series, then the tier 1 countries can send their A teams to lower tier nations such as Ireland, Scotland, Namibia and Kenya. 10-15 years back, there used to be such tours from the tier 1 A teams. But now the A team program is in decline and even when they play, it is mostly among themselves. Asking the BCCI or CA to send their regular team to tour Ireland or Scotland is not a viable solution. They will refuse outright, because it makes little sense in terms of revenue.
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They will never get a lot of chances to play against the big teams. And that is the way ICC works. Now the BCCI is in talks about blocking 2.5 to 3 months every year for the IPL. The number of ICC tournaments are increasing. Any remaining time will be taken up by bilateral series between the tier 1 test nations. Those in the tier 2 (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) can play amongst themselves and that's all they can do. Get some big wins, such as the upset win by Ireland against England during the 2011 CWC, and there is a chance that the big teams may give 1-2 matches to them once in a while.

Nothing can be done for these Tier2 teams. ICC cannot do anything as BCCI is the biggest revenue generator for them and they will increase the duration of IPL and block international cricket for a few months. The only option left now is that these teams play within themselves and try to improve their game. 
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They will never get a lot of chances to play against the big teams. And that is the way ICC works. Now the BCCI is in talks about blocking 2.5 to 3 months every year for the IPL. The number of ICC tournaments are increasing. Any remaining time will be taken up by bilateral series between the tier 1 test nations. Those in the tier 2 (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) can play amongst themselves and that's all they can do. Get some big wins, such as the upset win by Ireland against England during the 2011 CWC, and there is a chance that the big teams may give 1-2 matches to them once in a while.

I don’t know about others but personally, I think that is not the best decision for cricket in the long run. Often we see if there is one series going on there is not another series going on at the same time. Probably that is done because the revenue doesn’t get split.

But that is another reason why we get very few cricket matches every year. Among the teams which have been playing cricket regularly, there are also some teams facing different types of problems like Pakistan. And all these problems are not going to be fixed unless the number of teams that play cricket regularly increases and giving chances to teams like Ireland more is going to be the only way to do that.
To save the cricket world, small teams should be given more chance for development but we normally see it's opposite situation for week team. It is true that very few cricket match can be watch because of lack of team. Again those who perform well and in the top listed they do not want to play with any small team. I think in this regard icc should be hard and take the initiatives.
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They will never get a lot of chances to play against the big teams. And that is the way ICC works. Now the BCCI is in talks about blocking 2.5 to 3 months every year for the IPL. The number of ICC tournaments are increasing. Any remaining time will be taken up by bilateral series between the tier 1 test nations. Those in the tier 2 (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) can play amongst themselves and that's all they can do. Get some big wins, such as the upset win by Ireland against England during the 2011 CWC, and there is a chance that the big teams may give 1-2 matches to them once in a while.

I don’t know about others but personally, I think that is not the best decision for cricket in the long run. Often we see if there is one series going on there is not another series going on at the same time. Probably that is done because the revenue doesn’t get split.

But that is another reason why we get very few cricket matches every year. Among the teams which have been playing cricket regularly, there are also some teams facing different types of problems like Pakistan. And all these problems are not going to be fixed unless the number of teams that play cricket regularly increases and giving chances to teams like Ireland more is going to be the only way to do that.
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Again, I am going to say that they will be able to win against the Big Four when they will be able to play more regularly against the Big Four. And they are obviously not getting enough chances to play against the Big Four. They actually hardly get any chances to play against better teams in my opinion. That is a big reason why they are not also improving quickly.

They will never get a lot of chances to play against the big teams. And that is the way ICC works. Now the BCCI is in talks about blocking 2.5 to 3 months every year for the IPL. The number of ICC tournaments are increasing. Any remaining time will be taken up by bilateral series between the tier 1 test nations. Those in the tier 2 (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) can play amongst themselves and that's all they can do. Get some big wins, such as the upset win by Ireland against England during the 2011 CWC, and there is a chance that the big teams may give 1-2 matches to them once in a while.
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I disagree with you here. The argument from the critics was that Ireland never wins against the big-4 teams. And Ireland lost the series 0-2 against India. So I don't understand what is there for Ireland to celebrate. They get such opportunities very rarely and need to make maximum use out of them. In the end, everyone will look at the points table and the outcome. It won't be of much help, even if they give a good fight and then lose the match. And let's not forget the fact that this was a home series for them.

There is honestly nothing to celebrate for Ireland to be honest but they have a lot of positives to take out from this series. And the problem is not Ireland unable to win matches against the Big Four.

The actual problem is them not being able to play enough matches against the top teams. It was actually good to see Ireland giving a good performance in the second match against India. I think now if they play against teams like Bangladesh and West Indies they will be able to win a few matches and that is going to give them really good confidence going forward.


Ireland is in the 11th position in the ranking. And doing well against big teams is a big achievement for them. It was not easy for Ireland to collect more than 220 against a team like India. If Ireland's batsmen can continue such a performance, they will become stronger. And if the Irish players are able to maintain this continuity, then the Irish team will rise even higher in the rankings.
Again, if they want to remain at the 11th position and maintain their status as the untouchables of cricket, then these sort of performances are fine. But if they want to challenge the existing system, where Ireland receives 5% of the ICC funds that are given to India and around 25% of the funds that are given to Zimbabwe, then they need to win regularly against the big-4 nations. Big boards such as the BCCI and ECB throw some breadcrumbs towards smaller boards like Ireland and Netherlands in the form of 1-2 matches every few years. If they are happy with this system, then I don't have any issue.

Again, I am going to say that they will be able to win against the Big Four when they will be able to play more regularly against the Big Four. And they are obviously not getting enough chances to play against the Big Four. They actually hardly get any chances to play against better teams in my opinion. That is a big reason why they are not also improving quickly.
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There is more excitement than expected in this Ireland vs India T20 series. Despite playing well, Ireland lost the match by 4 runs, scoring almost the winning run. With a series win, Hardik begins his international captaincy career. There's no judging a series against Ireland, luck is on his side. The bowling wasn't good, the batting was poor except for Hooda and Samson. Deepak Hooda is an incredibly talented young man. Having the opportunity to play for the national team, he makes the most of it.

I was very surprised to see Ireland's performance. This team will play better in the future. After batting on a huge target of 226 runs, they lost by only 4 runs. Almost every batsman in Ireland has tried to play well. Experienced bowlers like Bhuvnewar Kumar also gave a lot of runs. The players of the Irish team have proved they have the ability.
Yes,This is the attraction of cricket. Ireland came back very close to victory but they didn't win that after all the game captivated the spectators. A team in this position can score 221 runs against India which will inspire others. No matter which team it is, small team has the power to defeat them. Of course, there are many such instances in the history of cricket.
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I loved their fighting spirit, chasing 200+ score is never an easy task but they almost did it. Associate teams needs such kind of series regularly and ICC + full nations specially big teams should go ahead and start touring them even if they are sending their 2nd string squad, it's a win-win for everyone.

Positive sign for Ravi Bishnoi, he bowled beautifully last night despite going for runs. Irish batters were struggling against him, he could have picked 3-4 wickets if it wasn't for no ball drama and dropped catch.

Yeah.. Ravi Bishnoi was the player who won the match for India. All the other bowlers were going for more than 12 runs per over, when he was introduced. Bhuvi went for 29 from his 2 and Umran went for 14 in his first. But in his first two overs, Bishnoi conceded only 11 runs and that was the game changer. Irish batsmen were ahead until then, but two tight overs created a lot of pressure and that resulted in Stirling getting out. Stirling had a strike rate of around 250 at that point. From there onwards, Ireland remained behind India.
I've always liked Ravi Bishnoi as a bowler even when he got hammered in the IPL. Kid is extremely talented for sure but competition is tight in the Indian team for the  spin/leggie spot. He's very young so i would like to see him focusing on his batting as well, may be try to become slogger like Umesh Yadav even if it's miss or hit, this might give him edge over others leggie.   
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There is more excitement than expected in this Ireland vs India T20 series. Despite playing well, Ireland lost the match by 4 runs, scoring almost the winning run. With a series win, Hardik begins his international captaincy career. There's no judging a series against Ireland, luck is on his side. The bowling wasn't good, the batting was poor except for Hooda and Samson. Deepak Hooda is an incredibly talented young man. Having the opportunity to play for the national team, he makes the most of it.

I was very surprised to see Ireland's performance. This team will play better in the future. After batting on a huge target of 226 runs, they lost by only 4 runs. Almost every batsman in Ireland has tried to play well. Experienced bowlers like Bhuvnewar Kumar also gave a lot of runs. The players of the Irish team have proved they have the ability.
The team will only play better in the future if they get more opportunities like this. They need more experience to play international cricket. They have the potential but unfortunately they lack experience. In these times when more emphasis is given to franchise T20 cricket i doubt they will get any more opportunities like the one they got with India.
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