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Quote from: galambo on February 03, 2022, 10:48:28 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 03, 2022, 02:25:59 AM

One of the biggest revenue source for IPL is the television right. If PSL wants to be succesful then they should stop telecasting those matches on free platforms. They should also work on piracy. Star india has been very successful in stopping piracy. It is practically impossible to watch IPL on any free platforms now. A few years back you would have easily watched those IPL matches on most of the free platform.

You cant compare IPL with anyother league. IPL broadcasting rights were sold for billion of dollars while only few million dollars were earned by selling PSL rights. PCB want to reach masses that's why they don't wanna ban airing PSL on free platforms.

It is foolish to compare IPL with other leagues. However, PSL is not yet popular enough. IPL is enjoyed by people all over the world. At the same time if we consider BPL then it is also quite popular in their own country. But PSL is not very popular compared to them. This is why the board of Pakistan wants to popularize it first. They want viewers to watch it for free. As popularity grows, the board will decide to discontinue telecasts from the free platform.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 03, 2022, 02:25:59 AM

One of the biggest revenue source for IPL is the television right. If PSL wants to be succesful then they should stop telecasting those matches on free platforms. They should also work on piracy. Star india has been very successful in stopping piracy. It is practically impossible to watch IPL on any free platforms now. A few years back you would have easily watched those IPL matches on most of the free platform.

You cant compare IPL with anyother league. IPL broadcasting rights were sold for billion of dollars while only few million dollars were earned by selling PSL rights. PCB want to reach masses that's why they don't wanna ban airing PSL on free platforms.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 03, 2022, 06:30:41 AM

But when its comes to online presence (highlights, short clips) BCCI and service providers do terrible job. You can't expect everyone to visit BCCI site every time they want to see 2 mins action.

I guess they can't upload these clips to YouTube, due to T&C of the television contract. Maybe BCCI should cut down on greed and ask the media rights holders to make highlights of already completed matches freely available for all. I am a regular visitor of YouTube channels of ECB and CA, and every now and then they upload full highlights to their channel (for example the recently concluded Ashes). I don't know why the BCCI can't do the same. Maybe they need to reduce the sale amount for TV rights by 4% or 5%.

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Not just Star but every media house who manage to get their hands on IPL or India's bilateral cricket rights, it does look excellent strategy from service providers point of view because they have monopoly in providing content but on the other hand it hurt average fans as they can't access highlights etc easily. Surprisingly recently SONY started uploading bilateral series in youtube, so may be there is some hope.

Yes, the problem is everyone doesn't want to pay for everything and looks for what is free. The media houses who actually manage to get their hands on the rights, I think that they make the best out of it. But it's also a good thing that Sony started to upload bilateral series on YouTube. Those who don't want to pay or don't have the ability, maybe still can enjoy the games.

Well its not always about ability to pay etc but easy access to masses as well. Easy access in interweb like youtube etc brings new fans, doesn't matter if they love-play the game or not but it could definitely attract more eyeballs.

for example in India cricket is popular because its almost free to watch on tele, all you have to do is spend 300-400 rs for cable and you get all sort of entertainment options including sports channels but at the same time compare this system with England and Australia, completely opposite situation. Props to BCCI.

But when its comes to online presence (highlights, short clips) BCCI and service providers do terrible job. You can't expect everyone to visit BCCI site every time they want to see 2 mins action.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on February 01, 2022, 10:47:40 AM

PSL popularity gaining day by day.PSL match we can watch Youtube search and Facebook live.BPL also popular Leaugue. People Enjoy T-20 Cricket more than Test and ODI cricket. T-20, is most enjoyable. I think IPL is most popular and great fantastic Leaugue. IPL few days later will be start.

One of the biggest revenue source for IPL is the television right. If PSL wants to be succesful then they should stop telecasting those matches on free platforms. They should also work on piracy. Star india has been very successful in stopping piracy. It is practically impossible to watch IPL on any free platforms now. A few years back you would have easily watched those IPL matches on most of the free platform.

Not just Star but every media house who manage to get their hands on IPL or India's bilateral cricket rights, it does look excellent strategy from service providers point of view because they have monopoly in providing content but on the other hand it hurt average fans as they can't access highlights etc easily. Surprisingly recently SONY started uploading bilateral series in youtube, so may be there is some hope.

Yes, the problem is everyone doesn't want to pay for everything and looks for what is free. The media houses who actually manage to get their hands on the rights, I think that they make the best out of it. But it's also a good thing that Sony started to upload bilateral series on YouTube. Those who don't want to pay or don't have the ability, maybe still can enjoy the games.

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Sylhet Sunrisers vs Khulna Tigers

I was watching the match of Sylhet Sunrisers vs Khulna Tigers now. Khulna Tiger won the toss and decided to bowl first. The last team in the points table is now is Sylhet and Khulna is in fifth position. Sylhet scored 104 runs in 17 overs. Openers Simmons scored 6 from 19 ball and Anamul scored 4 4from 10 balls. It looks like they had to play a test match. Very unprofessional batting. In this match, I bet for Khulna to win. What the outcome will be is not yet known.

Khulna has won and maybe you have won your bet too. Sylhet was able to give a target of 143 runs. As Sylhet started, 142 is a big collection for them. But Khulna won the match by collecting 144 runs in 14.2 overs. Andre Fletcher was unbeaten on 71 off 46 balls. Soumya Sarkar scored 43 runs off 31 balls. And Perera was unbeaten on 22 off 9 balls. The match was very enjoyable. Khulna Tigers are now fourth in the points table.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 03, 2022, 12:36:07 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on February 02, 2022, 05:09:25 PM

I am not really sure about their value, but two new teams have been added(Ahmedabad and Lucknow) and what makes IPL 2022 even more interesting is the fact that many players have been redistributed across teams.

The existing franchises can retain up to 4 players (although not all the franchises have done that). That puts the new franchises in a bad position, as most of the star players are not available. Only those players who are out of form and kicked out of their old franchises are available for auction. Examples are KL Rahul and Hard dick Pandya. And that is the reason why I am not expecting these two franchises to perform properly for the first one or two seasons. It is going to take some time for them to catch up with the other franchises.

In this matter, an argument can be made both ways because this is good for the players but not good for the franchises.

Especially the new ones because of the reasons that it was mentioned previously in your post. But on the other hand, it can be good for the players because the players who are in form would still be able to play in the same theme and those who are kicked out of form will be able to try their luck in their new home. So, it has certain pros and cons in my opinion.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 03, 2022, 02:25:59 AM

Quote from: Mamun74 on February 01, 2022, 10:47:40 AM

PSL popularity gaining day by day.PSL match we can watch Youtube search and Facebook live.BPL also popular Leaugue. People Enjoy T-20 Cricket more than Test and ODI cricket. T-20, is most enjoyable. I think IPL is most popular and great fantastic Leaugue. IPL few days later will be start.

One of the biggest revenue source for IPL is the television right. If PSL wants to be succesful then they should stop telecasting those matches on free platforms. They should also work on piracy. Star india has been very successful in stopping piracy. It is practically impossible to watch IPL on any free platforms now. A few years back you would have easily watched those IPL matches on most of the free platform.

Yes, that is true and I think that might be a reason why even though PCL has a really good fan following it still does not generate the revenue that it should. They should seriously think about generating better revenue. Piracy is killing their revenue by a large margin. Right now every good thing is paid and they need to realize that. Just make it paid.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on February 03, 2022, 02:25:59 AM

Quote from: Mamun74 on February 01, 2022, 10:47:40 AM

PSL popularity gaining day by day.PSL match we can watch Youtube search and Facebook live.BPL also popular Leaugue. People Enjoy T-20 Cricket more than Test and ODI cricket. T-20, is most enjoyable. I think IPL is most popular and great fantastic Leaugue. IPL few days later will be start.

One of the biggest revenue source for IPL is the television right. If PSL wants to be succesful then they should stop telecasting those matches on free platforms. They should also work on piracy. Star india has been very successful in stopping piracy. It is practically impossible to watch IPL on any free platforms now. A few years back you would have easily watched those IPL matches on most of the free platform.

Not just Star but every media house who manage to get their hands on IPL or India's bilateral cricket rights, it does look excellent strategy from service providers point of view because they have monopoly in providing content but on the other hand it hurt average fans as they can't access highlights etc easily. Surprisingly recently SONY started uploading bilateral series in youtube, so may be there is some hope.

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Sylhet Sunrisers vs Khulna Tigers

I was watching the match of Sylhet Sunrisers vs Khulna Tigers now. Khulna Tiger won the toss and decided to bowl first. The last team in the points table is now is Sylhet and Khulna is in fifth position. Sylhet scored 104 runs in 17 overs. Openers Simmons scored 6 from 19 ball and Anamul scored 4 4from 10 balls. It looks like they had to play a test match. Very unprofessional batting. In this match, I bet for Khulna to win. What the outcome will be is not yet known.

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Quote from: Mamun74 on February 01, 2022, 10:47:40 AM

PSL popularity gaining day by day.PSL match we can watch Youtube search and Facebook live.BPL also popular Leaugue. People Enjoy T-20 Cricket more than Test and ODI cricket. T-20, is most enjoyable. I think IPL is most popular and great fantastic Leaugue. IPL few days later will be start.

One of the biggest revenue source for IPL is the television right. If PSL wants to be succesful then they should stop telecasting those matches on free platforms. They should also work on piracy. Star india has been very successful in stopping piracy. It is practically impossible to watch IPL on any free platforms now. A few years back you would have easily watched those IPL matches on most of the free platform.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 02, 2022, 05:09:25 PM

I am not really sure about their value, but two new teams have been added(Ahmedabad and Lucknow) and what makes IPL 2022 even more interesting is the fact that many players have been redistributed across teams.

The existing franchises can retain up to 4 players (although not all the franchises have done that). That puts the new franchises in a bad position, as most of the star players are not available. Only those players who are out of form and kicked out of their old franchises are available for auction. Examples are KL Rahul and Hard dick Pandya. And that is the reason why I am not expecting these two franchises to perform properly for the first one or two seasons. It is going to take some time for them to catch up with the other franchises.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 02, 2022, 12:13:34 PM

India is country of 1.3 billion cricket fans, so you can easily imagine the marker size of IPL. There are other sports also in India but they don't generate as much revenue as IPL, reason is people are not much interested in those games.

True. The T-20 format basically outshined other formats across the world and IPL is one of the primary reasons behind it. It's like squid games except you don't die at the end of every match.

Indian millionaires and billionaires buy clubs and watch them duke it out in a winner takes all contest every year.

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I have heard that ipl is adding two more teams and there value is 2 billion usd, is that true?

I am not really sure about their value, but two new teams have been added(Ahmedabad and Lucknow) and what makes IPL 2022 even more interesting is the fact that many players have been redistributed across teams.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on February 02, 2022, 10:24:46 AM

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This looks like PSL is gaining more popularity. It is quite surprised to see PSL YouTube channel having such a good number of subscribers. Pakistan is a good team, and if the country hasn't got any security issues the team could've made themselves even stronger than now. Also PSL might've gained even more popularity. Always the rivalry between India and Pakistan is kept active through some means.

Pakistanis are too good in T20 and have talent that can perform well specially in T20 format. If you see the quality of fast bowling in PSL then it's matchless. If pcb can raise some money to invest in PSL then it will get due attention globally. For now just enjoy the game.

As of now, Pakistan is second most populated country in Cricket community, and they have some very good and exciting players in last few decades but sadly due to some very poor management and security issues they lost very good time which hurt them very badly, but every bad thing is had an end so this same happening in Pakistan recently with new management and new government is working on few things which need intention for improving quality of life and things in positive way this year we have some good number of changes in PSL which are helping to improve fan base and their revenue surely in coming years this could be second most famous league in cricket world, and they will do some more good things for having better and skilled players for excitement.

Just few minutes ago we have very exciting end of match between Lahore Qalandars vs Peshawar Zalmi in chase of 199 Zalmi done 170/9 which give Qalandars second win of this season, and now they are at second spot in league table.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on February 02, 2022, 11:00:14 AM

I absolutely agree because the fan base that IPL has is just absolutely unbelievable. I actually think every Indian people follow the IPL very closely. And obviously, the foreign players that play in the IPL are some of the best in the world.

So, watching the greats of the game in action alongside each other is a different experience altogether. And these are the reasons why IPL generates so good revenues.

India is country of 1.3 billion cricket fans, so you can easily imagine the marker size of IPL. There are other sports also in India but they don't generate as much revenue as IPL, reason is people are not much interested in those games. I have heard that ipl is adding two more teams and there value is 2 billion usd, is that true?

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 02, 2022, 05:01:13 AM

another reason why IPL is so popular is because it didn’t need to create a fan base as almost every second Indian loves watching cricket, and IPL spiced it up with foreign player’s which became an added bonus.

Furthermore IPL won’t ever be beaten ever, because franchises, player’s, and the boards earn a lots of revenues from it, plus additional deals like merchandise sales earnings etc can’t be replicated by any other league because the audience size of IPL is way too big, and therefore I don’t think any other league can beat IPL.

I absolutely agree because the fan base that IPL has is just absolutely unbelievable. I actually think every Indian people follow the IPL very closely. And obviously, the foreign players that play in the IPL are some of the best in the world.

So, watching the greats of the game in action alongside each other is a different experience altogether. And these are the reasons why IPL generates so good revenues.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on February 01, 2022, 01:26:31 AM

This looks like PSL is gaining more popularity. It is quite surprised to see PSL YouTube channel having such a good number of subscribers. Pakistan is a good team, and if the country hasn't got any security issues the team could've made themselves even stronger than now. Also PSL might've gained even more popularity. Always the rivalry between India and Pakistan is kept active through some means.

Pakistanis are too good in T20 and have talent that can perform well specially in T20 format. If you see the quality of fast bowling in PSL then it's matchless. If pcb can raise some money to invest in PSL then it will get due attention globally. For now just enjoy the game.

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And also probably it's because India was the first country to do something like this if I remember correctly!
Probably the first one was called ICL instead of IPL. And in that tournament almost every country sent a team of their own, unlike the IPL which was a mixture of players from different countries.
I think that is also a reason why IPL is so popular. And it really unlikely that any other League will surpass IPL in any way.

There is no doubt IPL is one of most popular league in world, and they have same rating as English Premier League have in soccer and no other league can compete with them in terms of popularity and finances, but another thing is also true from this market many other leagues also can take their own share which will help them for having fair enough profit for their own.

After Carry Packer this is second revolution is cricket history which changes all things very quickly for benefit of players and their respective boards and now bilateral cricket is going to face some tough time with this all because right now we have nearly 6 leagues and few also coming which will create problems, and we will have just these leagues and ICC Cups for some International exposure of the game of cricket.

Wow actually did not know that IPL is that highly rated. It's actually very good to hear. And IPL also is a very good medium from which a lot of young players and young talents come to light. Before this type of league, players had to do really hard work to prove themselves and if they were unlucky it was really hard for them to do so, but now it's not like the players don't need to work hard but it has certainly become easier.

And under the circumstances, it's hard to arrange tournaments at all. so it's a good thing that cricket is still being played and getting some international exposure.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 01, 2022, 04:34:30 AM

And also probably it's because India was the first country to do something like this if I remember correctly!
Probably the first one was called ICL instead of IPL. And in that tournament almost every country sent a team of their own, unlike the IPL which was a mixture of players from different countries.
I think that is also a reason why IPL is so popular. And it really unlikely that any other League will surpass IPL in any way.

There is no doubt IPL is one of most popular league in world, and they have same rating as English Premier League have in soccer and no other league can compete with them in terms of popularity and finances, but another thing is also true from this market many other leagues also can take their own share which will help them for having fair enough profit for their own.

After Carry Packer this is second revolution is cricket history which changes all things very quickly for benefit of players and their respective boards and now bilateral cricket is going to face some tough time with this all because right now we have nearly 6 leagues and few also coming which will create problems, and we will have just these leagues and ICC Cups for some International exposure of the game of cricket.

@lixer another reason why IPL is so popular is because it didn’t need to create a fan base as almost every second Indian loves watching cricket, and IPL spiced it up with foreign player’s which became an added bonus.

Furthermore IPL won’t ever be beaten ever, because franchises, player’s, and the boards earn a lots of revenues from it, plus additional deals like merchandise sales earnings etc can’t be replicated by any other league because the audience size of IPL is way too big, and therefore I don’t think any other league can beat IPL.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on February 01, 2022, 04:34:30 AM

And also probably it's because India was the first country to do something like this if I remember correctly!
Probably the first one was called ICL instead of IPL. And in that tournament almost every country sent a team of their own, unlike the IPL which was a mixture of players from different countries.
I think that is also a reason why IPL is so popular. And it really unlikely that any other League will surpass IPL in any way.

There is no doubt IPL is one of most popular league in world, and they have same rating as English Premier League have in soccer and no other league can compete with them in terms of popularity and finances, but another thing is also true from this market many other leagues also can take their own share which will help them for having fair enough profit for their own.

After Carry Packer this is second revolution is cricket history which changes all things very quickly for benefit of players and their respective boards and now bilateral cricket is going to face some tough time with this all because right now we have nearly 6 leagues and few also coming which will create problems, and we will have just these leagues and ICC Cups for some International exposure of the game of cricket.

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