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Quote from: mersal on September 18, 2020, 05:11:22 AM

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Though I still wish they'd spend more on developing and spreading cricket around the world, but it's their choice, people can live without cricket.

If ICC is serious about spreading the cricket world wide then they should introduce 24 team world cup tournament for ODI and T-20 instead of 10-12 teams but no they are not interested as they don't want to repeat 2007 like scenario.

BCCI don't want to distribute the revenue further with more teams and that is the reason why Cricket was not included into the Olympics as well when all other boards are okay to accept it.If the system goes like this for few more years then next generation may not much interested with watching cricket.

BCCI does not distribute the revenue it is done by ICC and already BCCI is paying more and getting less with the new revenue system in place.

The question is if BCCI is able to generate that kind of revenue why cannot other boards do the same? If other boards have issue in generating revenue why blame BCCI for everything.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 18, 2020, 02:56:10 AM

Quote from: Tipstar on September 17, 2020, 08:53:17 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 17, 2020, 08:08:56 AM

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Though I still wish they'd spend more on developing and spreading cricket around the world, but it's their choice, people can live without cricket.

If ICC is serious about spreading the cricket world wide then they should introduce 24 team world cup tournament for ODI and T-20 instead of 10-12 teams but no they are not interested as they don't want to repeat 2007 like scenario.

BCCI don't want to distribute the revenue further with more teams and that is the reason why Cricket was not included into the Olympics as well when all other boards are okay to accept it.If the system goes like this for few more years then next generation may not much interested with watching cricket.

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Quote from: Tipstar on September 17, 2020, 08:53:17 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 17, 2020, 08:08:56 AM

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Though I still wish they'd spend more on developing and spreading cricket around the world, but it's their choice, people can live without cricket.

If ICC is serious about spreading the cricket world wide then they should introduce 24 team world cup tournament for ODI and T-20 instead of 10-12 teams but no they are not interested as they don't want to repeat 2007 like scenario.

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Quote from: mersal on September 17, 2020, 09:13:49 AM

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Quote from: mersal on September 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

These measures were implemented when N Srinivasan was controlling the BCCI, and I believe that they should remove this ban. It is very unfair from the part of BCCI to ban the Indian players from the other leagues, when all the other boards allow their players to take part in the IPL. Also, two months every year from the international calendar is devoted to the IPL. None of the other boards get such preferential treatment for their leagues. On top of that, despite the revenue redistribution, the BCCI still receives almost 4 times funds from the ICC when compared to some of the smaller boards such as CSA and NZC. The BCCI should not get too greedy and arrogant. If they do that, then the other boards may gang up against them.

If other boards ban their players from playing IPL they will leave their boards because of the money. Indian players are happy with BCCI decision to ban them from playing with other boards because they know which board is capable of generating the highest revenue.

Not every Indian player is going to find a franchise every year so if someone doesn't get a spot then they should be allowed to play on other leagues so they also will get exposure about their talents which could help them to build their international career.

Indian players not only get paid by the IPL franchise but also by the BCCI. If a player does not get selected by any IPL franchise he is still getting paid by BCCI.

https://www.bcci.tv/articles/2020/news/144219/bcci-announces-annual-player-retainership-2019-20-team-india-senior-men-

The amount is far better than what other boards are paying to their players. Therefore I do not think there is still need for them to go and play for other boards.

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Quote from: MFahad on September 17, 2020, 01:26:03 PM

I understand that BCCI takes most of the revenue from the ICC tornaments etc but what about Australia and England Boards ? Aren't they also considered as main boards like BCCI. I dont think ECB and ACB can settle on any less revenue as compare to BCCI.

Here is the revenue share model of ICC

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Based on current forecasted revenues and costs, BCCI will receive $293m across the eight year cycle, ECB $143m, Zimbabwe Cricket $94m and the remaining seven Full Members $132m each. Associate Members will receive funding of $280m.

I am surprised to see Zimbabwe in the third position, so how the share system actually works?

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The ICC needs BCCI, as much as the BCCI needs ICC. But that doesn't mean that the BCCI should be given lion's share of ICC revenues, at a time when some of the smaller boards are facing bankruptcy. None of the other sports bodies such as FIFA or FIH follows a similar model. They divide the revenues equally, without thinking about from where the revenues are originating.

It's not correct to compare a sport like Cricket to Soccer in the revenue aspect because they follow different systems. The BCCI are a corrupt board and everyone are aware of that, but that doesn't mean that they don't deserve the lion's share of the revenue.

India is probably the top revenue source for the ICC which is why they deserve the lion's share. However, the BCCI needs to utilize that revenue more efficiently.

I understand that BCCI takes most of the revenue from the ICC tornaments etc but what about Australia and England Boards ? Aren't they also considered as main boards like BCCI. I dont think ECB and ACB can settle on any less revenue as compare to BCCI.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 17, 2020, 06:05:19 AM

The ICC needs BCCI, as much as the BCCI needs ICC. But that doesn't mean that the BCCI should be given lion's share of ICC revenues, at a time when some of the smaller boards are facing bankruptcy. None of the other sports bodies such as FIFA or FIH follows a similar model. They divide the revenues equally, without thinking about from where the revenues are originating.

It's not correct to compare a sport like Cricket to Soccer in the revenue aspect because they follow different systems. The BCCI are a corrupt board and everyone are aware of that, but that doesn't mean that they don't deserve the lion's share of the revenue.

India is probably the top revenue source for the ICC which is why they deserve the lion's share. However, the BCCI needs to utilize that revenue more efficiently.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 17, 2020, 12:14:03 AM

Quote from: mersal on September 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

These measures were implemented when N Srinivasan was controlling the BCCI, and I believe that they should remove this ban. It is very unfair from the part of BCCI to ban the Indian players from the other leagues, when all the other boards allow their players to take part in the IPL. Also, two months every year from the international calendar is devoted to the IPL. None of the other boards get such preferential treatment for their leagues. On top of that, despite the revenue redistribution, the BCCI still receives almost 4 times funds from the ICC when compared to some of the smaller boards such as CSA and NZC. The BCCI should not get too greedy and arrogant. If they do that, then the other boards may gang up against them.

If other boards ban their players from playing IPL they will leave their boards because of the money. Indian players are happy with BCCI decision to ban them from playing with other boards because they know which board is capable of generating the highest revenue.

Not every Indian player is going to find a franchise every year so if someone doesn't get a spot then they should be allowed to play on other leagues so they also will get exposure about their talents which could help them to build their international career.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 17, 2020, 08:08:56 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 17, 2020, 06:05:19 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 17, 2020, 12:34:38 AM

That's sound like a good option, every board should stand up against BCCI and force ICC to ban India from the international cricket, so what if BCCI generates 70% of revenue and brings more on the table. I am sure all cricket boards and ICC won't mind reduction of funds once BCCI gets kicked out from the Int community. Roll Eyes

The ICC needs BCCI, as much as the BCCI needs ICC. But that doesn't mean that the BCCI should be given lion's share of ICC revenues, at a time when some of the smaller boards are facing bankruptcy. None of the other sports bodies such as FIFA or FIH follows a similar model. They divide the revenues equally, without thinking about from where the revenues are originating.

BCCI share already took a massive hit but anyway what do you propose in new policy, ICC should follow the FIFA's model?

NZ population is 5 million
Ind population is 1.35 Billion

Sure, kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

What we all need to accept is Cricket is a regional sports. And with the franchise league, we have commercialized it much more than most other sports. People are no longer interested in a quadrennial 50 overs world cup. They want quick and entertaining action, that be complemented in the duration as a regular movie.
India generates the most direct and indirect profit for cricket. ICC is BCCI.
Though I still wish they'd spend more on developing and spreading cricket around the world, but it's their choice, people can live without cricket.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 17, 2020, 06:05:19 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 17, 2020, 12:34:38 AM

That's sound like a good option, every board should stand up against BCCI and force ICC to ban India from the international cricket, so what if BCCI generates 70% of revenue and brings more on the table. I am sure all cricket boards and ICC won't mind reduction of funds once BCCI gets kicked out from the Int community. Roll Eyes

The ICC needs BCCI, as much as the BCCI needs ICC. But that doesn't mean that the BCCI should be given lion's share of ICC revenues, at a time when some of the smaller boards are facing bankruptcy. None of the other sports bodies such as FIFA or FIH follows a similar model. They divide the revenues equally, without thinking about from where the revenues are originating.

BCCI share already took a massive hit but anyway what do you propose in new policy, ICC should follow the FIFA's model?

NZ population is 5 million
Ind population is 1.35 Billion

Sure, kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 17, 2020, 12:34:38 AM

That's sound like a good option, every board should stand up against BCCI and force ICC to ban India from the international cricket, so what if BCCI generates 70% of revenue and brings more on the table. I am sure all cricket boards and ICC won't mind reduction of funds once BCCI gets kicked out from the Int community. Roll Eyes

The ICC needs BCCI, as much as the BCCI needs ICC. But that doesn't mean that the BCCI should be given lion's share of ICC revenues, at a time when some of the smaller boards are facing bankruptcy. None of the other sports bodies such as FIFA or FIH follows a similar model. They divide the revenues equally, without thinking about from where the revenues are originating.

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Quote from: mersal on September 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

These measures were implemented when N Srinivasan was controlling the BCCI, and I believe that they should remove this ban. It is very unfair from the part of BCCI to ban the Indian players from the other leagues, when all the other boards allow their players to take part in the IPL. Also, two months every year from the international calendar is devoted to the IPL. None of the other boards get such preferential treatment for their leagues. On top of that, despite the revenue redistribution, the BCCI still receives almost 4 times funds from the ICC when compared to some of the smaller boards such as CSA and NZC. The BCCI should not get too greedy and arrogant. If they do that, then the other boards may gang up against them.

If other boards ban their players from playing IPL they will leave their boards because of the money. Indian players are happy with BCCI decision to ban them from playing with other boards because they know which board is capable of generating the highest revenue.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 17, 2020, 12:14:03 AM

Quote from: mersal on September 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

These measures were implemented when N Srinivasan was controlling the BCCI, and I believe that they should remove this ban. It is very unfair from the part of BCCI to ban the Indian players from the other leagues, when all the other boards allow their players to take part in the IPL. Also, two months every year from the international calendar is devoted to the IPL. None of the other boards get such preferential treatment for their leagues. On top of that, despite the revenue redistribution, the BCCI still receives almost 4 times funds from the ICC when compared to some of the smaller boards such as CSA and NZC. The BCCI should not get too greedy and arrogant. If they do that, then the other boards may gang up against them.

That's sound like a good option, every board should stand up against BCCI and force ICC to ban India from the international cricket, so what if BCCI generates 70% of revenue and brings more on the table. I am sure all cricket boards and ICC won't mind reduction of funds once BCCI gets kicked out from the Int community. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: mersal on September 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

These measures were implemented when N Srinivasan was controlling the BCCI, and I believe that they should remove this ban. It is very unfair from the part of BCCI to ban the Indian players from the other leagues, when all the other boards allow their players to take part in the IPL. Also, two months every year from the international calendar is devoted to the IPL. None of the other boards get such preferential treatment for their leagues. On top of that, despite the revenue redistribution, the BCCI still receives almost 4 times funds from the ICC when compared to some of the smaller boards such as CSA and NZC. The BCCI should not get too greedy and arrogant. If they do that, then the other boards may gang up against them.

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Quote from: mersal on September 16, 2020, 08:35:35 AM

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 16, 2020, 01:51:18 AM

Almost all boards have started their leagues agreed but how many are popular? and how many have high-value international cricket players? How many are able to relocate their venue in a different country? You need money for everything and only BCCI and IPL franchises have that kind of money.

Franchise leagues are privately owned commercial enterprises and they will invest money only if they get good returns out of it. The BCCI has banned Indian players from participating in the other franchise leagues, and this has severely impacted their viewership and revenue generation from the Indian market. Only the CPL and BBL have some viewership in India, due to the presence of some of the big names in T20 cricket.

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

Its still completely banned no Indian player can participate in any twenty/20 league other then IPL and they are very stick about this surely in future they are not going to allowed this as well because this can hurt their marketing strategy no other board can do policy like this because they have no enough funds to do this.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 16, 2020, 05:52:25 AM

Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 16, 2020, 01:51:18 AM

Almost all boards have started their leagues agreed but how many are popular? and how many have high-value international cricket players? How many are able to relocate their venue in a different country? You need money for everything and only BCCI and IPL franchises have that kind of money.

Franchise leagues are privately owned commercial enterprises and they will invest money only if they get good returns out of it. The BCCI has banned Indian players from participating in the other franchise leagues, and this has severely impacted their viewership and revenue generation from the Indian market. Only the CPL and BBL have some viewership in India, due to the presence of some of the big names in T20 cricket.

BCCI refused the permission in the past but I am not sure BCCI completely banned Indian players from overseas t20 leagues and other other cricket boards too have just kind of need if they want to participate in T20 leagues organized by other boards.

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