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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 09, 2020, 07:37:10 AM

I have already posted about this. It will be impossible to replace Vivo, because they paid manytimes the fair-price during the 2018 auctions. The deal was worth ₹2,200 crore. None of the Indian brands were ready to pay even ₹1,000 crore. And now the economy is not doing that good and I really doubt whether the BCCI will be able to finalize a reasonable deal.

They still searching for the bidder and recently announced that, IPL rights bidders need to show turnover of INR. 300 Crore.

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 09, 2020, 11:49:14 AM

BCCI will get a main sponsor for the IPL but the problem here is that they wont be getting the same valuation VIVO was paying them, when IPL was started the it was 40 crore per year and then it changed to 80 crore and VIVO came in and showered them huge amounts than anyone else by paying them 440 crore per year and now the BCCI is expecting similar valuation and even Reliance rejected the proposal made by BCCI and if Reliance rejected then no Indian company will be paying that much.

I think it's not only the Indian comanies which BCCI looking for, they are searching the non-chinease options. There are some candidates such as Coke, Amazon, Dream11, Tata Group and Patanjali ayurveda .

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 08, 2020, 09:28:42 AM

However do you’ll really believe that BCCI won’t be be able to find main sponsor for the IPL, because I strongly feel that some company will soon sign up and seal the deal with BCCI.

BCCI will get a main sponsor for the IPL but the problem here is that they wont be getting the same valuation VIVO was paying them, when IPL was started the it was 40 crore per year and then it changed to 80 crore and VIVO came in and showered them huge amounts than anyone else by paying them 440 crore per year and now the BCCI is expecting similar valuation and even Reliance rejected the proposal made by BCCI and if Reliance rejected then no Indian company will be paying that much.

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After reading your reply, i am curious to know which country do you belong ?

Are you from Pakistan ?

I was talking about Indian politics as the topic was regarding the IPL and if pakhitheboss was talking about Pakistan then i have no idea about their politics.

@pakhitheboss still waiting Wink

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 09, 2020, 02:49:41 AM

BCCI is looking for IPL 2020 sponsor after VIVO withdraws support. Recently they approached Reliance JIO for sponsoring IPL 2020 but they have also declined. I doubt they will find any title sponsors within a month time. The current market condition is proving harsh for most companies and hence it is getting difficult for BCCI to find a sponsor this time.

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I have already posted about this. It will be impossible to replace Vivo, because they paid manytimes the fair-price during the 2018 auctions. The deal was worth ₹2,200 crore. None of the Indian brands were ready to pay even ₹1,000 crore. And now the economy is not doing that good and I really doubt whether the BCCI will be able to finalize a reasonable deal.

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ICC had another meeting and now we have more clarity on next ICC tournaments. Now every board might work on their bilateral and domestic cricket.

No Changes on Men's T-20 and 50 overs WC schedule.
-2021- T-20 WC in India
-2022- T-20 WC in Australia
-2023- ICC Men's WC in India

Women's cricket took a hit and 50 overs 2021 WC has been postponed to 2022.
https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/113726/india-to-host-2021-t20-world-cup-2022-australia-new-zealand-women

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About Vivo sponsorship....

Unofficial news is Vivo already pulled out as a sponsor from the IPL. BCCI had no authority to cancel the deal due to signed contract otherwise VIVO could have sue BCCI easily, if rumors are correct then BCCI-VIVO mutually came into conclusion of cancelling the deal.

Did India ban all the goods from China, heard that some of the Chinese application are banned but not heard about any products or imports ban, if there is a blanket ban on all the Chinese products then there is no point for VIVO to advertise if they are not able to sell the products, it is true that BCCI cannot cancel a deal as they can drag them in court.

India hasn't stopped entire import from China. If India has stopped importing of Chinese products it will suffer without productivity. Majority of the raw materials for production in India was purchased from China. Right now as a way to show the opposition or to stand along with the government BCCI might have taken the decision. Also informing the same prior is good for Vivo, or else it might have wasted the funds on sponsor and there isn't any assurance of business in India until some agreement is made.

BCCI is looking for IPL 2020 sponsor after VIVO withdraws support. Recently they approached Reliance JIO for sponsoring IPL 2020 but they have also declined. I doubt they will find any title sponsors within a month time. The current market condition is proving harsh for most companies and hence it is getting difficult for BCCI to find a sponsor this time.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 07, 2020, 03:47:41 PM

^^^It was fun reading your comment, day by day the problem in India is increasing while the rest of the world is controlling the spread. I had no idea about cricket being popular Tongue

. Still it is not world wide acceptable as you claim to be.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 06, 2020, 03:58:12 AM

Self reliant is the primary objective of Indian government and Indians now. I do know it will create panic and chaos in the beginning but in the long run it will help India to be less dependent on others.

That is what i was thinking, during the initial phase of the corona spread the government in the center under BJP was asking to drink cow urine and cow dung to get rid of the virus and now some of the ministers including Amit Shah forgot to serve those and hence infected by the virus, i never had any idea all these were done to create self reliant and to be less dependent Tongue

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@everyone sorry for diverting from cricket but to hear this trumpeting the government and to not reply makes my blood boil.

What do you mean by trumpeting? Did you initiate anything good for the country?

No, you did not because you were busy following some fools from the ruling part!! As most liberalandus do in india nowdays.

Being self-reliant does not mean praising the ruling party you dumb sadistic jack @SaShiRaJaVu. I guess your reply shows how retard you have become after 2014. If you have any issues with my replies ignore it. No one compelled you to use your retarded brain and divert the topic to politics. I can also give you a befitting reply but this is not the forum and I do not believe in trolling fellow memebers.

After reading your reply, i am curious to know which country do you belong ?

Are you from Pakistan ?

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T20 cricket in the short time playing.We enjoy T20 cricket Tournament.
Covin 19 problem stop T20 cricket of Ipel.This is world wide big problems.Day by day this problem increase.This interfire in all section.
Cricket Lover enjoy T20.This is most popular cricket.It's world wide acceptable playing.Day by day T20 popular huge Increase.So I there for T20 cricket World wide acceptable.

@Priya Chowdhury of course everyone loves T20, and even though it’ll be really weird to watch the match without the spectators, I’m yet excited for this year’s IPL tournament.

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 08, 2020, 07:38:08 AM

IPL is searching for the main sponsor since VIVO is put on hold and none of the companies they approached are willing to take on that sponsorship.

@SaShiRaJaVu you’re correct as for the first time since IPL has began BCCI is facing a difficult situation as they cannot allow VIVO to stay on board, and rest Indian companies have the backing of China’s corporates which will trigger anti Chinese sentiments as per BCCI sources. However do you’ll really believe that BCCI won’t be be able to find main sponsor for the IPL, because I strongly feel that some company will soon sign up and seal the deal with BCCI.

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BCCI is facing another hitch of sorts. The board faced severe backlash owing to the Anti-China sentiment due to which they have already lost VIVO as the title sponsor of the league. The apprehension doing the rounds behind BCCI’s corridors is, will board face flak one more time courtesy anti-China wave if they get any company on board for IPL 2020 with the Chinese investments. Byju’s, PayTM and Dream11 are all Indian grown businesses but on the back of Chinese investments.

“All of these companies are BCCI’s partners. They are Indian entities but we are little concerned about very strong Anti-China undercurrent. We don’t want to speculate on how people will react if any of them come on board”, said one of the BCCI official.

Sources:

https://www.insidesport.co/ipl-2020-reliance-jio-declines-bccis-sos-for-ipl-2020-title-sponsorship/

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/ipl-2020-uae-financial-model-vivo-sponsorship-6544090/

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cricket/ipl-2020-shayamal-vallabhjee-book-motivation-mental-health-kings-xi-punjab-miller-rahul/article32168538.ece

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 07, 2020, 09:32:34 PM

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What do you mean by trumpeting? Did you initiate anything good for the country?

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 06, 2020, 03:58:12 AM

Self reliant is the primary objective of Indian government and Indians now. I do know it will create panic and chaos in the beginning but in the long run it will help India to be less dependent on others.

The above statement is called as trumpeting about the idiocracy by the government.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 07, 2020, 09:32:34 PM

No, you did not because you were busy following some fools from the ruling part!! As most liberalandus do in india nowdays.

liberalandus Roll Eyes

a new word for the English dictionary. What do you really mean by this Roll Eyes

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 07, 2020, 09:32:34 PM

Being self-reliant does not mean praising the ruling party you dumb sadistic jack @SaShiRaJaVu. I guess your reply shows how retard you have become after 2014. If you have any issues with my replies ignore it. No one compelled you to use your retarded brain and divert the topic to politics. I can also give you a befitting reply but this is not the forum and I do not believe in trolling fellow memebers.

Do you really understand the meaning what you are scribbling down, i am expecting a sensible response from you rather than some emotional rant and personal attack which i really care less Tongue

and you can very well start a thread in local section so that we can continue over there and do not worry that i will come down to your level and start showering personal attacks.

Your statements are contradicting and hence i am still expecting a befitting response that is sensible in the local section.

IPL is searching for the main sponsor since VIVO is put on hold and none of the companies they approached are willing to take on that sponsorship.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 08, 2020, 12:22:31 AM

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As China has got their own search engine as well as their own social media and other platforms for usage surely they'll understand the decision of India to have their own apps for all needs. As a beginning, before India makes an aggressive move Vivo has volunteered to move out as there will be decline in the progress in India. Though it cause a huge loss to the common people, in the long run it will benefit India.

Banning and restricting brands and apps from a certain region goes against the principle of free market economy. What the Indian government should do is to help local brands by giving subsidies and helping them to make deals with global giants. Banning competing brands and thereby giving an unfair advantage to the local ones may be beneficial in the short term. But in the long term it will bring down the quality and harm these local brands.

In the world of business, whenever a company grows from the dust and reaches a position, someone who is giant in the concern sector will acquire it. This way coming to the top isn't an easy task in today's market. In the past there isn't much of competence as well as money flow. Agreed on giving subsidiaries to small brands to grow up in the productivity. Whether it is long term or short term the productivity within the country needs to be higher than importing.

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Quote from: AjithBtc on August 05, 2020, 09:02:39 PM

As China has got their own search engine as well as their own social media and other platforms for usage surely they'll understand the decision of India to have their own apps for all needs. As a beginning, before India makes an aggressive move Vivo has volunteered to move out as there will be decline in the progress in India. Though it cause a huge loss to the common people, in the long run it will benefit India.

Banning and restricting brands and apps from a certain region goes against the principle of free market economy. What the Indian government should do is to help local brands by giving subsidies and helping them to make deals with global giants. Banning competing brands and thereby giving an unfair advantage to the local ones may be beneficial in the short term. But in the long term it will bring down the quality and harm these local brands.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 07, 2020, 03:47:41 PM

^^^It was fun reading your comment, day by day the problem in India is increasing while the rest of the world is controlling the spread. I had no idea about cricket being popular Tongue

. Still it is not world wide acceptable as you claim to be.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 06, 2020, 03:58:12 AM

Self reliant is the primary objective of Indian government and Indians now. I do know it will create panic and chaos in the beginning but in the long run it will help India to be less dependent on others.

That is what i was thinking, during the initial phase of the corona spread the government in the center under BJP was asking to drink cow urine and cow dung to get rid of the virus and now some of the ministers including Amit Shah forgot to serve those and hence infected by the virus, i never had any idea all these were done to create self reliant and to be less dependent Tongue

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@everyone sorry for diverting from cricket but to hear this trumpeting the government and to not reply makes my blood boil.

What do you mean by trumpeting? Did you initiate anything good for the country?

No, you did not because you were busy following some fools from the ruling part!! As most liberalandus do in india nowdays.

Being self-reliant does not mean praising the ruling party you dumb sadistic jack @SaShiRaJaVu. I guess your reply shows how retard you have become after 2014. If you have any issues with my replies ignore it. No one compelled you to use your retarded brain and divert the topic to politics. I can also give you a befitting reply but this is not the forum and I do not believe in trolling fellow memebers.

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^^^It was fun reading your comment, day by day the problem in India is increasing while the rest of the world is controlling the spread. I had no idea about cricket being popular Tongue

. Still it is not world wide acceptable as you claim to be.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 06, 2020, 03:58:12 AM

Self reliant is the primary objective of Indian government and Indians now. I do know it will create panic and chaos in the beginning but in the long run it will help India to be less dependent on others.

That is what i was thinking, during the initial phase of the corona spread the government in the center under BJP was asking to drink cow urine and cow dung to get rid of the virus and now some of the ministers including Amit Shah forgot to serve those and hence infected by the virus, i never had any idea all these were done to create self reliant and to be less dependent Tongue

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@everyone sorry for diverting from cricket but to hear this trumpeting the government and to not reply makes my blood boil.

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Quote from: AjithBtc on August 05, 2020, 09:02:39 PM

As China has got their own search engine as well as their own social media and other platforms for usage surely they'll understand the decision of India to have their own apps for all needs. As a beginning, before India makes an aggressive move Vivo has volunteered to move out as there will be decline in the progress in India. Though it cause a huge loss to the common people, in the long run it will benefit India.

Self reliant is the primary objective of Indian government and Indians now. I do know it will create panic and chaos in the beginning but in the long run it will help India to be less dependent on others.

I am not sure whether BCCI will be able to find a new main sponsor for IPL now as there is very less time left for the tournament. In the mean time just read in the news of new demands by the franchises.

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One franchise wants reimbursements for gate money; another wants BCCI to compensate for value erosion in the wake of Vivo India's exit or find replacement(s) at the earliest; a third one wants quarantine rules relaxed for a set of players and so on

Suddenly it seems franchises are not happy with anything related to IPL from BCCI after the sudden exit of VIVO as the main sponsor.

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As China has got their own search engine as well as their own social media and other platforms for usage surely they'll understand the decision of India to have their own apps for all needs. As a beginning, before India makes an aggressive move Vivo has volunteered to move out as there will be decline in the progress in India. Though it cause a huge loss to the common people, in the long run it will benefit India.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 05, 2020, 12:03:02 PM

Quote from: mersal on August 05, 2020, 04:06:53 AM

India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.

So there you go, then there is no point in having any emotions because some Chinese company is sponsoring the IPL, these taxes will drain the pockets of their own citizen and nothing else.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 05, 2020, 05:47:17 AM

Not Blanket bans as its not logical, India has long way to go and its not an easy road.
As of now they are targeting 3000 products and start manufacture locally which is very much possible with extra push. Dependency on China is not sane option anyway and trade deficit is not favoring India, not even balanced so this move could help Indian cause.

I bet the products coming from China might be cheap and there are millions in India under poverty line but wants cheap products and if there are other companies that could fill that shows their products wont be that popular and that is not the case i assume.

Right now this is big issue for many countries as they fail to control or ban chines products the price is very low and local manufacturer fail to give price like this so Chines are going popular day by day if they want to ban these things then first of all they must give some good incentives to manufacturers then they can do these things in long run.

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Quote from: mersal on August 05, 2020, 04:06:53 AM

India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.

So there you go, then there is no point in having any emotions because some Chinese company is sponsoring the IPL, these taxes will drain the pockets of their own citizen and nothing else.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 05, 2020, 05:47:17 AM

Not Blanket bans as its not logical, India has long way to go and its not an easy road.
As of now they are targeting 3000 products and start manufacture locally which is very much possible with extra push. Dependency on China is not sane option anyway and trade deficit is not favoring India, not even balanced so this move could help Indian cause.

I bet the products coming from China might be cheap and there are millions in India under poverty line but wants cheap products and if there are other companies that could fill that shows their products wont be that popular and that is not the case i assume.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on August 05, 2020, 05:50:28 AM

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The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.

I am not sure how beneficial this is going to be. Because Chinese companies were investing a lot of money in to various sectors in India. They were willing to take up infrastructural projects, at a much lower cost when compared to the other foreign engineering companies. Take the case of BCCI. They have now lost a deal which was worth ₹2,200 crore. The largest bid made by a non-Chinese brand was less than half of that amount.

So, for cheap price should Indians sell their country, I do not think so and it will never happen. As US and other European countries join the league of banning Chinese apps and products, CCP will have to think twice before they go for an aggressive stand.

Now, after VIVO moving out vokuntarily from IPL sponsorship. I feel the CCP would rethink their strategy for India.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 05, 2020, 05:22:18 AM

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Quote from: mersal on August 05, 2020, 04:06:53 AM

India, didn't ban any Chinese products, they only banned Apps but I heard that import taxes for some Chinese products are increased after the issue but this is going to affect the people only since we are the consumer so extra price will be on the head of the people in India.And actually India can't ban any Chinese products most of the electronics goods used all around the world was manufactured in China even if it is not a Chinese company so India need to build their own brands before banning others.

Recently a ban was imposed on some of the items, such as TV screens. This served two purposes - first, the market share of Chinese screens went down. And secondly, the Indian-made TV screens now got a monopoly in the market. But it is not practical to completely ban the Chinese brands. For example, Vivo was paying ₹2,200 crore for the five-year old deal with the BCCI. The second highest bid was also from a Chinese brand (Oppo) and that was worth ₹1,430 crore. Bids from all the other brands were lower than this amount. BCCI is going to lose a lot of money as a result of the Vivo pullout.

The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.

I don't think so, the products will be banned because we don't even have alternative products which can match their price that is why people and companies prefer China as a land to manufacture things. Maybe in a five year time this can be possible if Indian companies starts to build successful companies but it is not also possible due to Indian taxation system that is why companies move to other countries when they want to establish a company.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on August 05, 2020, 05:22:18 AM

The Ban on Chinese products will be done in a phased manner. India cannot ban all items in one go, they have already banned a lot of Chinese apps, big infrastructure contracts have been cancelled and now the government is planning to ban Chinese telecommunication products.

By year-end most Chinese products will either get banned or these Chinese companies will have to sell their Indian business to indian companies.

I am not sure how beneficial this is going to be. Because Chinese companies were investing a lot of money in to various sectors in India. They were willing to take up infrastructural projects, at a much lower cost when compared to the other foreign engineering companies. Take the case of BCCI. They have now lost a deal which was worth ₹2,200 crore. The largest bid made by a non-Chinese brand was less than half of that amount.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 04, 2020, 06:18:55 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on August 04, 2020, 09:30:15 AM

About Vivo sponsorship....

Unofficial news is Vivo already pulled out as a sponsor from the IPL. BCCI had no authority to cancel the deal due to signed contract otherwise VIVO could have sue BCCI easily, if rumors are correct then BCCI-VIVO mutually came into conclusion of cancelling the deal.

Did India ban all the goods from China, heard that some of the Chinese application are banned but not heard about any products or imports ban, if there is a blanket ban on all the Chinese products then there is no point for VIVO to advertise if they are not able to sell the products, it is true that BCCI cannot cancel a deal as they can drag them in court.

Not Blanket bans as its not logical, India has long way to go and its not an easy road.
- Restrictions on venture investment and virtually no Chinese participation/partnership in infrastructure, telecom projects.
- CAIT (The Confederation of All India Traders) bringing down the imports from China to $13B by 2021. Not easy task but if there is a will, there is a way. As of now they are targeting 3000 products and start manufacture locally which is very much possible with extra push. Dependency on China is not sane option anyway and trade deficit is not favoring India, not even balanced so this move could help Indian cause.

Well if someone violates a written contract then they deserve to get sue, no matter who they are and it happens from time to time, so yeah.....

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