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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked

. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.

Even if we have IPL this year then it may not be profitable as previous years because people got affected economically in worse ways so its impossible to imagine them to spend their remaining money for entertainment events.And T20 is also much likely to get postponed if the virus spreads is not under complete control because players won't take risk on their life.

Coronavirus has dent the profits in all the fields and sports is also effected by it. If IPL does take place this year, it will be a bonus for them and the management will happily conduct the tournament, even if they get less revenue. Having a tournament is better than not having the series altogether.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 23, 2020, 05:09:11 PM

After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.

I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity Undecided

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As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

I don't think that the case, because no other foreign leagues take place during IPL season if I am not wrong. So BCCI doesn't have to worry about the loss of fans regarding IPL.

Bilateral cricket does happen, take ex of India's tour of Australia. BBL happens during same time, i find it weird that sometimes even premiere Australian players don't take part in BBL so why should we expect same from the Indian players?

Other reason is Demand and supply.

Quote from: vella85 on May 23, 2020, 06:36:09 PM

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Since Sourav Ganguly is the president i expect him to think logically rather than tying up these players whose potential to earn as a sportsperson is very limited, my view is to get rid of all these obligations and restrictions, let these players earn from different leagues world wide.

Sounds good if you want to see Indian players turning into mercenary cricketers.

IMO the best thing BCCI can do is

-Exclude any players who has national contract. (No NOC for them)
-Give NOC (1 foreign league) to retired or any players who are T-20 specialists only
-No T-20 foreign leagues for test players, keep them in IPL.
-I am against Younger players getting into foreign leagues, IPL is more than enough for them to show their talent and Keep them busy with the 4 day cricket strictly be in Ranji/counties/ Shield.

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Quote from: vella85 on May 23, 2020, 06:36:09 PM

I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked

. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.

Even if we have IPL this year then it may not be profitable as previous years because people got affected economically in worse ways so its impossible to imagine them to spend their remaining money for entertainment events.And T20 is also much likely to get postponed if the virus spreads is not under complete control because players won't take risk on their life.

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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked

. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.

IPL is more important to BCCI than any other tournament, it is surely the highest revenue grossing event for it. A lot of national and international corporates are backing this event and that is one of the majors reason why BCCI wants this league to happen more than the T20 worldcup.

Remember most of these corporates are also the major sponsors of the T20 Worldcup.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on May 23, 2020, 03:30:59 PM

I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked

. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

I think it all comes down to money and having the IPL played this year will most likely make a lot more money then the T20 world cup. This is why they are pushing so hard for the IPL to be played this year even though the situation in India with the virus seems to be getting worse by the day. Cricket in Australia isn't as big as it once was and that could be another reason why we could see the IPL played and the T20 world cup postponed to a later date.

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But currently many things going with IPL is going to played this year and Twenty/20 World cup is going to postponed for few months and now going to played in February/March because India is very powerful country in ICC so they can do this without any problem recently two cricket boards already give surprise announcements about World cup postponement like South Africa and New Zealand.

We still have five more months as per the schedule to make a decision and by that time i expect the situation to be under control and even if the BCCI is powerful how can they change a tournament that is already scheduled unless the global situation is not allowing it to continue.

18 October to 15 November 2020 is the tournament date and i expect it to continue as scheduled.

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And the another factor is lots of players used to play domestic league for their states but if they were allowed some player may take retirement quickly and will join the foreign leagues which will be not good for Indian cricket.

Having an iron fist as a dictatorship should be removed, the players should have the ultimate freedom to choose their career than someone dictating it to them.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 22, 2020, 06:37:40 PM

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Sourav Ganguly is a BCCI president first and I do not think he will vote for T20 World Cup when he knows how important it is for BCCI financially to conduct IPL. Therefore I doubt he will vote Worldcup over IPL.

As a player and captain who changed Indian cricket i expect Sourav Ganguly to give importance to the T20 World Cup than financially motivated IPL, he will not look for the business side but what is fair in a situation like this.

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I am sure they will organise the IPL with out any spectators using local players and if foreign players want to come they will provide them with necessary safety measure. They will opconduct these matches in states where there are less cases as if now Kerala, Telengana, Himachal Pradesh and few others have shown a huge improvement.

I can assure that Kerala will not allow any sort of sporting events in the near future, their only aim is to bring back people who are stuck abroad and make a safe environment for everyone and more than four lakh people are expected to return from different countries. People safety first and then sports and that will be the motto Wink

. And if everything returns to normal then it might allow sports to return, other than that the Kerala government will not allow a sporting event to hold up medical staff and other facilities for a sports to carry on while the common people needed it most.

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As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

Since Sourav Ganguly is the president i expect him to think logically rather than tying up these players whose potential to earn as a sportsperson is very limited, my view is to get rid of all these obligations and restrictions, let these players earn from different leagues world wide.

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Since the Indian Govt has advised the People to learn to live with the Coronavirus, BCCI will try to find a window among the current schedule to host IPL with a minimum crowd. But considering the current scenario, I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.

I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity Undecided

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As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

I don't think that the case, because no other foreign leagues take place during IPL season if I am not wrong. So BCCI doesn't have to worry about the loss of fans regarding IPL.

Not exactly during the IPL, but if famous Indian players continue to join the other league the those league will get popularity, Just imagine Indian players in the big bash league.
And the another factor is lots of players used to play domestic league for their states but if they were allowed some player may take retirement quickly and will join the foreign leagues which will be not good for Indian cricket.

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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked

. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

But currently many things going with IPL is going to played this year and Twenty/20 World cup is going to postponed for few months and now going to played in February/March because India is very powerful country in ICC so they can do this without any problem recently two cricket boards already give surprise announcements about World cup postponement like South Africa and New Zealand.

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I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Does that mean that BCCI will interfere in the decision making and they will prefer league cricket over an international tournament Shocked

. None of the cricket board will allow that to happen, with the situation not suitable for the tournament in India with the situation is getting worse when the rest of the world is recovering will not help them either. Australia on the other hand is safe to conduct the T20 World cup and i expect to see that tournament as planned.

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Since the Indian Govt has advised the People to learn to live with the Coronavirus, BCCI will try to find a window among the current schedule to host IPL with a minimum crowd. But considering the current scenario, I definitely don't want IPL this year as it may affect the T20 WorldCup in Australia which I am eagerly expecting for as things are better in Australia comparatively.

Quote from: JSRAW on May 23, 2020, 02:46:42 AM

After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.

I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity Undecided

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As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

I don't think that the case, because no other foreign leagues take place during IPL season if I am not wrong. So BCCI doesn't have to worry about the loss of fans regarding IPL.

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COVID-19 is recent crisis so this argument doesn't fit in " Players not playing in foreign leagues" narrative.

I was actually referring to the current and future leagues. Guess both of us got confused here.

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I didn't understand that why its loss for BCCI, for fans i can understand that they don't get to see their fav players playing in the foreign T-20 leagues but for BCCI its well thought strategy, they are earning because of players so it makes sense in their perspective.

It is a huge loss for the BCCI if any of the players get affected by the virus while playing abroad. Just imagine certain popular Cricketers dying because of the virus which is completely possible.

Even if they don't die, their health could take a hit barring them from future matches. This is why it's best not to risk sending any of the players abroad for their own safety.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 23, 2020, 02:11:08 AM

so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

This is one reason. Another reason is that the players could get exposed to COVID-19 since majority of these cases originated abroad which would damage their health and performance in the long term.

COVID-19 is recent crisis so this argument doesn't fit in " Players not playing in foreign leagues" narrative.

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This could prove to be a tremendous loss both for the fans and BCCI who treat them as assets as you mentioned. The players themselves are bound by contracts and nothing much can be done in this case.

Overall, I do agree with BCCI here since they are focusing on the big picture in the long term.

I didn't understand that why its loss for BCCI, for fans i can understand that they don't get to see their fav players playing in the foreign T-20 leagues but for BCCI its well thought strategy, they are earning because of players so it makes sense in their perspective.

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so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

This is one reason. Another reason is that the players could get exposed to COVID-19 since majority of these cases originated abroad which would damage their health and performance in the long term.

This could prove to be a tremendous loss both for the fans and BCCI who treat them as assets as you mentioned. The players themselves are bound by contracts and nothing much can be done in this case.

Overall, I do agree with BCCI here since they are focusing on the big picture in the long term.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 21, 2020, 11:35:52 PM

After Raina, Yuvraj, Bhajji, Yusuf Pathan. Uthappa joins the list.

I cannot understand why BCCI is stubborn in allowing these players to play outside as they are not even playing for the national team and why to restrict their earning opportunity Undecided

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As far as i understand, Indian Players are assets for BCCI . Almost every Indian cricketer has fair amount of fan base even the retired ones. so everything comes down the money, that's a only reason every foreign league wants Indian cricketers participation and BCCI don't want to expose them to other leagues as it effect their interest (IPL)

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Sourav Ganguly is the BCCI president and i hope he will vote for T20 World Cup rather than the IPL even though the loss they will be encountering will be huge, the situation in India is not that favorable to restart the matches but the situation in Austrhalia is completely different, they only have 515 positive cases and the situation is under control and hence there is a possibility for the T20 World Cup.

Sourav Ganguly is a BCCI president first and I do not think he will vote for T20 World Cup when he knows how important it is for BCCI financially to conduct IPL. Therefore I doubt he will vote Worldcup over IPL.

I am sure they will organise the IPL with out any spectators using local players and if foreign players want to come they will provide them with necessary safety measure. They will opconduct these matches in states where there are less cases as if now Kerala, Telengana, Himachal Pradesh and few others have shown a huge improvement.

Lets see what he thinks. I still prefer World cup over IPL anytime.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on May 21, 2020, 05:40:22 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 21, 2020, 07:58:07 AM

Hyderabad is not completely free from the pandemic, but it seems to be one of the better options right now. Tier 3 cities such as Goa and Trivandrum lack multiple stadiums, where dozens of matches can be played on a continuous basis. However, from the article posted by Huanebu, it looks as if BCCI wants the ICC to cancel the T20 World Cup. So what is the conclusion? Both these tournaments can't go ahead this year? Zero chance?

If there is an option for me i would rather want to see the T20 World Cup than the IPL and as you said, Goa and Kerala does not have multiple international stadiums, but they have stadiums Wink

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The World Cup was scheduled in Australia and the virus situation is under control and considering that if the countries that are participating in the world cup can take measures by testing the players then the problem can be sorted out considering England is planning to resume cricket, it is a realistic possibility that T20 can be conducted without audience.

@eaLity if it comes down to a vote I hope that all the countries will vote for scheduling the T20 World Cup, instead of opting to send their players to play in IPL. Furthermore it’s an open secret that BCCI is doing all they can to postpone the T20 World Cup, and in it’s place schedule the IPL and they may even succeed if conditions suddenly improve in India and at the same time number of cases rise in Australia.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/ipl-possible-after-rains-bcci-ceo-rahul-johri/articleshow/75858397.cms

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/mark-taylor-t20-world-cup-postponement-will-open-door-for-ipl-india-tour-of-australia-1678937-2020-05-17

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/australia-sports-minister-points-out-the-biggest-issue-with-hosting-t20-world-cup/story-75XG6n47jLcBJqn1mkEGsO.html

Well right now its looking good for the T20 world cup to go ahead and I'm not sure if the cases will rise in Australia as the Government was quick to respond which is why we see low cases here. Yes winter starts in June here and it looks like the Government is going to start opening up so we could see a spike in cases but its happening all over the world right now and doesn't look like stopping. Its all about the money now days so the BCCI may very well get their wish.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 21, 2020, 11:35:52 PM

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@eaLity if it comes down to a vote I hope that all the countries will vote for scheduling the T20 World Cup, instead of opting to send their players to play in IPL. Furthermore it’s an open secret that BCCI is doing all they can to postpone the T20 World Cup, and in it’s place schedule the IPL and they may even succeed if conditions suddenly improve in India and at the same time number of cases rise in Australia.

Sourav Ganguly is the BCCI president and i hope he will vote for T20 World Cup rather than the IPL even though the loss they will be encountering will be huge, the situation in India is not that favorable to restart the matches but the situation in Australia is completely different, they only have 515 positive cases and the situation is under control and hence there is a possibility for the T20 World Cup.

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Hyderabad is a better option in comparison even though the cases there are a bit higher. However, this is still a bad time to consider hosting the IPL or the T-20 World Cup in my opinion.

As mentioned earlier the situation in Australia is under control, they can carry on with the World Cup and if possible the IPL can be shifted to Australia considering the situation in Australia is under control.