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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 25, 2020, 09:08:28 AM

What a spectacular match it was today between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan's bowling attack just ripped through Bangladesh batting followed by good batting from Azam and Hafeez. Series won by Pakistan the last match is a formality I guess now.

Azam should definitely get the praise by everyone here and hafeez showed his experience in the match. I thought Bangla would try to retaliate but Pakistani players didn't give them a chance. Great match to watch.

On the u -19 series, Japan did another blunder against Sri Lanka this time. The wickets were absolutely spectacular to see.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 25, 2020, 09:08:28 AM

What a spectacular match it was today between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan's bowling attack just ripped through Bangladesh batting followed by good batting from Azam and Hafeez. Series won by Pakistan the last match is a formality I guess now.

Pakistan is back in form in T20, when i saw the series against Sri Lanka they were completely lost which i thought would be fairly easy series for Pakistan but now Malik is back in the team where he earned the wrath of fans because of his bad performance and now he is back in the team and he performed in the first T20 to win the match. The bowlers were brilliant in this series and that was the difference between the last series and this.

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What a spectacular match it was today between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Pakistan's bowling attack just ripped through Bangladesh batting followed by good batting from Azam and Hafeez. Series won by Pakistan the last match is a formality I guess now.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on January 25, 2020, 04:43:37 AM

In my opinion, Dhoni's inclusion in the team will bring nothing good. Younger can do better.

I disagree completely and i am sure all these opinions will change after the IPL as i am betting on him to prove all the naysayers wrong. Age is against him but he is still the best Wicket Keeper batsman in the world in ODI and T20.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 25, 2020, 06:14:47 AM

Dhoni was extremely slow during the last year's World Cup in England. So going by the same logic, he should be replaced with younger players such as Rishabh Pant or Ishan Kishan. I understand that a lot of his fans in India wants him to be included in the squad. But going by the current form, I have a feeling that there are younger players out there, who deserve a place more than Dhoni.

The young players are given more opportunity to perform and showcase what they are capable of when Dhoni decided to take an extended break and none showed any huge impact behind the wickets and the only good keeper i have seen is Wriddhiman Saha who is a really good wicket keeper and so is the reason he is in the Test team.

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Some might say that despite being successful captain and best wicketkeeper, he must earn his place in Indian squad by competing with young guys. he set the same example when he refused to include Sehwag, Ganguly and Dravid in the team by stating " they are slow in the field" and "want to give youngsters chance".

The only person in your list that I felt sorry about was Ganguly. Sehwag was slow and so was Dravid on the field, the only exception for Dravid was that he also was a partime wicketkeeper. Both were non reliable batsmen. Creating records and not playing for the team was there biggest problem. If you change their batting order they would collapse. That was the biggest problem. Dhoni is far better than those.

I wouldn't say better, Sehwag was explosive opener in Test and Dhoni was good at middle order as Anchor and finisher in the limited overs cricket (not in Test). Everyone has their own strength and weakness and everyone fades out as time passes by or when they gets old, so changes are good that's how new blood gets into the picture. in the end selection should be based on merit and performance, no matter who play or not.

For argument, if someone creates All time World or Indian Test XI. Then Dhoni is not going to make out even in 30 or 15 men squad. In limited over cricket? Sure he can, easily and rightly so, his record speaks for him. On the other hand Sehwag is all time great opener in Test cricket history and there is a resaon Dravid's nick name is "The Wall"

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 25, 2020, 06:14:47 AM

Dhoni was extremely slow during the last year's World Cup in England. So going by the same logic, he should be replaced with younger players such as Rishabh Pant or Ishan Kishan. I understand that a lot of his fans in India wants him to be included in the squad. But going by the current form, I have a feeling that there are younger players out there, who deserve a place more than Dhoni.

The younger players are not so experienced when it comes to playing for their team. Rishab reminds me of how Virat was when he was new and played in T20s and ODIs earlier and now he has matured a lot. Dhoni is not slow on the field and is still reliable and is in good form so his inclusion in the WC is needed. For me, I don't find these younger players reliable enough.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 25, 2020, 04:19:44 AM

Some might say that despite being successful captain and best wicketkeeper, he must earn his place in Indian squad by competing with young guys. he set the same example when he refused to include Sehwag, Ganguly and Dravid in the team by stating " they are slow in the field" and "want to give youngsters chance".

Great example given and that's the truth. I can still remember the critics against Shewag where Dhoni was involved. That's good for the team, I have to agree but in case of Sehwag, I couldn't agree because Sehwag was always slow in the field, not only in the time he got older. In my opinion, Dhoni's inclusion in the team will bring nothing good. Younger can do better.

Dhoni was extremely slow during the last year's World Cup in England. So going by the same logic, he should be replaced with younger players such as Rishabh Pant or Ishan Kishan. I understand that a lot of his fans in India wants him to be included in the squad. But going by the current form, I have a feeling that there are younger players out there, who deserve a place more than Dhoni.

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Since there is no clarity from Dhoni nor the selectors whether he will be selected for the World Cup, IPL is the only platform where we will see Dhoni perform and i am sure he will be performing really well so that all the critics will be silent for a long time as he usually performs really well during the IPL as a captain and as a finisher.

What a dilema the most successful captain and one of the best wicketkeeper in the world has to prove himself once again to be part of the worldcup team. I sometimes ask myself those so called cricket critics and some of the selectors how well did they perform when they were part of the team.

His being part of the team is moral booster for the youngsters.

Some might say that despite being successful captain and best wicketkeeper, he must earn his place in Indian squad by competing with young guys. he set the same example when he refused to include Sehwag, Ganguly and Dravid in the team by stating " they are slow in the field" and "want to give youngsters chance".

The only person in your list that I felt sorry about was Ganguly. Sehwag was slow and so was Dravid on the field, the only exception for Dravid was that he also was a partime wicketkeeper. Both were non reliable batsmen. Creating records and not playing for the team was there biggest problem. If you change their batting order they would collapse. That was the biggest problem. Dhoni is far better than those.

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That's the cricket India want to play and has been playing for a long time, I think this type of cricket would kill the bowler's spirit, it's not cricket for me, I think cricket is being developed as the way of baseball, it's not anything harmful to cricket at all because of people's time, duration of a match is a huge time, five or six hours is a huge time for getting entertained by a cricket match, so T/20 is the form of cricket that attracts people's attention and we are enjoying a lot, Whatever the case is, Congratulation to the team India for giving such type of performance again and again.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 25, 2020, 04:19:44 AM

Some might say that despite being successful captain and best wicketkeeper, he must earn his place in Indian squad by competing with young guys. he set the same example when he refused to include Sehwag, Ganguly and Dravid in the team by stating " they are slow in the field" and "want to give youngsters chance".

Great example given and that's the truth. I can still remember the critics against Shewag where Dhoni was involved. That's good for the team, I have to agree but in case of Sehwag, I couldn't agree because Sehwag was always slow in the field, not only in the time he got older. In my opinion, Dhoni's inclusion in the team will bring nothing good. Younger can do better.

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Quote from: ene1980 on January 24, 2020, 06:20:19 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 12:51:55 PM

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Since there is no clarity from Dhoni nor the selectors whether he will be selected for the World Cup, IPL is the only platform where we will see Dhoni perform and i am sure he will be performing really well so that all the critics will be silent for a long time as he usually performs really well during the IPL as a captain and as a finisher.

What a dilema the most successful captain and one of the best wicketkeeper in the world has to prove himself once again to be part of the worldcup team. I sometimes ask myself those so called cricket critics and some of the selectors how well did they perform when they were part of the team.

His being part of the team is moral booster for the youngsters.

Some might say that despite being successful captain and best wicketkeeper, he must earn his place in Indian squad by competing with young guys. he set the same example when he refused to include Sehwag, Ganguly and Dravid in the team by stating " they are slow in the field" and "want to give youngsters chance".

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Shoaib Malik reminds me of Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Both are of the same age (38 years) and the fans in their respective countries are heavily polarized between those who argues for them to be allowed in the team, and those who want them to retire. But I can tell you one thing. Pakistan needs Malik now to stabilize their playing XI. The younger players are not performing that well.

Shoaib Malik and Mahendra Singh Dhoni are of the same age but they play a different brand of cricket and Pakistan really need Shoaib Malik to stabilize the team and if it not for his performance then they could have been in trouble and it is good to see that Shoaib Malik is back in the team. I want to see India giving a good send off to Mahendra Singh Dhoni as he gave many memorable performances and i wanted Dhoni to be in the T20 World Cup team as he is the first World Cup winner.

If he performs well during the IPL 2020, then I guess the selectors will give him a chance. But he needs to counter the critics by scoring the runs at a good pace. During the CWC 2019, his strike rate was below what was expected from him, and that too during the final phases of the innings. Anyway, just two more months to go for the IPL. Let's see how he performs for the Chennai Super Kings.

The door is not entirely closed for the ex Indian Captain according to the coach of India, who says that if Ms Dhoni performs well in IPL he may be selected for the T20 World Cup. However even Ms Dhoni knows it now that he’s no longer required in the playing 11, and as harsh as it may sound it’s the reality and he’ll have to accept it. Things would have been different had KL Rahul not performed so well with the gloves, but he’s suddenly seeming the first choice as the Indian wicket keeper which further spells the end of Ms Dhoni’s international career.

Sources:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/sports/ms-dhoni-dropped-from-bccis-central-contracts-list/articleshow/73295900.cms?from=mdr

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/india-vs-new-zealand-it-gives-me-a-great-idea-of-kl-rahul-speaks-out-on-wicket-keeping-role/story-v9izBgSTr0zkmkMyzVQytO.html

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28543678/virat-kohli-suggests-kl-rahul-keep-t20is-too

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Towards the end Sheyas Iyer who's innings was due finally provided his point today by smashing the ball all round the park and making quick 58 runs in 29 balls and helped India to win the match by 6 wickets and 1 over to spare. He was named Man of the Match for his brilliant batting.

Sreyas Iyer is the future of Indian T20 squad. I won't be much surprised, if he becomes the captain after the end of Kohli/Rohit era. As of now, I regard him as the best among the younger players. He is much more consistent and skilled, when compared to the others in his group, such as Rishabh Pant, Sanju Samson, Karun Nair and Manish Pandey.

Very close game indeed. It is all because of shreyas Iyer that India won the match. Incredibly batting by him. Pathetic fielding from both the side especially the missed run out chance by Newzealand.

India won comfortably, despite New Zealand managing a total of above 200. They should be disappointed. And it was not even a close match. India won with one over to spare, which is a big margin in T20 cricket. New Zealand bowling looked toothless, perhaps due to the absence of their strike bowlers (Trent Boult, Matt Henry, Lockie Ferguson.etc). These bowlers could have made some difference, but I have noticed that Boult usually performs poorly on flat tracks, such as the one we had at Eden Park.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 09:47:22 AM

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Towards the end Sheyas Iyer who's innings was due finally provided his point today by smashing the ball all round the park and making quick 58 runs in 29 balls and helped India to win the match by 6 wickets and 1 over to spare. He was named Man of the Match for his brilliant batting.

Sreyas Iyer is the future of Indian T20 squad. I won't be much surprised, if he becomes the captain after the end of Kohli/Rohit era. As of now, I regard him as the best among the younger players. He is much more consistent and skilled, when compared to the others in his group, such as Rishabh Pant, Sanju Samson, Karun Nair and Manish Pandey.

Very close game indeed. It is all because of shreyas Iyer that India won the match. Incredibly batting by him. Pathetic fielding from both the side especially the missed run out chance by Newzealand.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 12:51:55 PM

If he performs well during the IPL 2020, then I guess the selectors will give him a chance. But he needs to counter the critics by scoring the runs at a good pace. During the CWC 2019, his strike rate was below what was expected from him, and that too during the final phases of the innings. Anyway, just two more months to go for the IPL. Let's see how he performs for the Chennai Super Kings.

Since there is no clarity from Dhoni nor the selectors whether he will be selected for the World Cup, IPL is the only platform where we will see Dhoni perform and i am sure he will be performing really well so that all the critics will be silent for a long time as he usually performs really well during the IPL as a captain and as a finisher.

What a dilema the most successful captain and one of the best wicketkeeper in the world has to prove himself once again to be part of the worldcup team. I sometimes ask myself those so called cricket critics and some of the selectors how well did they perform when they were part of the team.

His being part of the team is moral booster for the youngsters.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 12:51:55 PM

If he performs well during the IPL 2020, then I guess the selectors will give him a chance. But he needs to counter the critics by scoring the runs at a good pace. During the CWC 2019, his strike rate was below what was expected from him, and that too during the final phases of the innings. Anyway, just two more months to go for the IPL. Let's see how he performs for the Chennai Super Kings.

Since there is no clarity from Dhoni nor the selectors whether he will be selected for the World Cup, IPL is the only platform where we will see Dhoni perform and i am sure he will be performing really well so that all the critics will be silent for a long time as he usually performs really well during the IPL as a captain and as a finisher.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 11:22:52 AM

Shoaib Malik reminds me of Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Both are of the same age (38 years) and the fans in their respective countries are heavily polarized between those who argues for them to be allowed in the team, and those who want them to retire. But I can tell you one thing. Pakistan needs Malik now to stabilize their playing XI. The younger players are not performing that well.

Shoaib Malik and Mahendra Singh Dhoni are of the same age but they play a different brand of cricket and Pakistan really need Shoaib Malik to stabilize the team and if it not for his performance then they could have been in trouble and it is good to see that Shoaib Malik is back in the team. I want to see India giving a good send off to Mahendra Singh Dhoni as he gave many memorable performances and i wanted Dhoni to be in the T20 World Cup team as he is the first World Cup winner.

If he performs well during the IPL 2020, then I guess the selectors will give him a chance. But he needs to counter the critics by scoring the runs at a good pace. During the CWC 2019, his strike rate was below what was expected from him, and that too during the final phases of the innings. Anyway, just two more months to go for the IPL. Let's see how he performs for the Chennai Super Kings.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 11:22:52 AM

Shoaib Malik reminds me of Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Both are of the same age (38 years) and the fans in their respective countries are heavily polarized between those who argues for them to be allowed in the team, and those who want them to retire. But I can tell you one thing. Pakistan needs Malik now to stabilize their playing XI. The younger players are not performing that well.

Shoaib Malik and Mahendra Singh Dhoni are of the same age but they play a different brand of cricket and Pakistan really need Shoaib Malik to stabilize the team and if it not for his performance then they could have been in trouble and it is good to see that Shoaib Malik is back in the team. I want to see India giving a good send off to Mahendra Singh Dhoni as he gave many memorable performances and i wanted Dhoni to be in the T20 World Cup team as he is the first World Cup winner.

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After such a good partnership between Tamim Iqbal and Mohammad Naim, I expected the Bangladeshis to make a total of somewhere around 160. But they ended up at 141/5. Such a total was not going to bother the Pakistanis much. And they never looked to be under pressure at any point during the chase. All credits to Shoiab Malik. He's 38 years old, and still going strong.

There were talks about the Bangladesh team not willing to travel and then there were topic about the security they will be getting but i never saw anyone discussing about the match and i came to know about the match when i saw the score update as notification that Shoaib Malik played and took the team to victory and i was surprised as i thought his career is literally over. Pakistan started well in the series and today India and Pakistan won their respective matches by chasing Grin

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Shoaib Malik reminds me of Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Both are of the same age (38 years) and the fans in their respective countries are heavily polarized between those who argues for them to be allowed in the team, and those who want them to retire. But I can tell you one thing. Pakistan needs Malik now to stabilize their playing XI. The younger players are not performing that well.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 24, 2020, 10:18:31 AM

After such a good partnership between Tamim Iqbal and Mohammad Naim, I expected the Bangladeshis to make a total of somewhere around 160. But they ended up at 141/5. Such a total was not going to bother the Pakistanis much. And they never looked to be under pressure at any point during the chase. All credits to Shoiab Malik. He's 38 years old, and still going strong.

There were talks about the Bangladesh team not willing to travel and then there were topic about the security they will be getting but i never saw anyone discussing about the match and i came to know about the match when i saw the score update as notification that Shoaib Malik played and took the team to victory and i was surprised as i thought his career is literally over. Pakistan started well in the series and today India and Pakistan won their respective matches by chasing Grin

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