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The ICC Men's T20 World Cup Qualifier is currently underway at the United Arab Emirates and we had a major upset with the very first match itself. Singapore defeated Scotland (one of the tournament favorites) by 2 runs today. In reply to the Singapore total of 168/6, Scotland could only manage 166/9 in 20 overs. Scotland was expected to top Group A and now that looks uncertain.

In two other ongoing matches, Netherlands made 166/4 against Kenya and Hong Kong made 153/5 against Ireland. I expect the European teams to win, but nothing is certain now. The gap between the teams have got very narrow.

The top 6 teams from this tournament will qualify to the first phase of the 2020 T20 world cup (where they will be joined by the two lowest ranking test nations - Sri Lanka and Bangladesh).
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You are missing the point. It is quite obvious that they will never perform like how they performed in their prime, but the priority here is fun and entertainment and helping raise donations which is a great goal.
I think you misunderstood what i meant and you are missing a vital point from what i said, we think the same about retired players as they might not perform the same like they used to in the past because of age and with age reflex will not be that great but since the tournament is for retired cricketers there will be an entertaining aspect and i will be watching the highlights and if i find it interesting i might be watching from the next match onwards as i cannot spare a long time watching sports all day long. So this tournament is for charity purpose if so it is a great goal and i had no idea about it, i was thinking about commercializing cricket to the maximum even with tournaments with retired cricketers.
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Earlier, it was not hard for people to take one or two days off from work and go to the stadiums to watch the test matches. Because it used to be played once in a while. But now many of the cricketers are seen in action round the clock, either in the international cricket or in T20 leagues. I am not saying that it is a bad thing. It has definitely helped the revenues and popularity of the game. All I am saying is that times have changed and the ICC should not push the test format on the throats of the cricket fans.
Time is an issue now and the frequency of the matches are also a major factor for the declining viewership for Test matches but even still Ashes series does have a major audience draw may be because of the history between the teams and the competitiveness and i have no doubt any India Pakistan Test matches can gain massive support and audience because of the fierce rivalry, there was a time when majority of the matches end up in a draw and that is also a reason for the decline in viewership but now we are seeing results in the matches which is a good start.   .
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Sehwag and Sachin were great players in the past and age is a real thing and i do not see them perform on that level but since this tournament is for retired players i would watch the match highlights.
You are missing the point. It is quite obvious that they will never perform like how they performed in their prime, but the priority here is fun and entertainment and helping raise donations which is a great goal.

"Retired" no longer means retired. Playing one or two exhibition matches every two or three years is OK. But here they are planning a whole series that is going to stretch for a few weeks. Looks like the financial glitter of the T20 game proved too hard to resist for many of these oldies. Now I don't know who is going to watch these 50-year olds playing cricket.
I would personally watch such matches since I am a fan of these legends. Old is gold buddy. There aren't many popular tournaments starting soon anyway(Based on what I know) which is why this will serve as a good dose of entertainment.
legendary
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"Retired" no longer means retired. Playing one or two exhibition matches every two or three years is OK. But here they are planning a whole series that is going to stretch for a few weeks. Looks like the financial glitter of the T20 game proved too hard to resist for many of these oldies. Now I don't know who is going to watch these 50-year olds playing cricket.
What is wrong if some old players want to play cricket and if there is an audience and sponsorship then i do not see anything bad in it, cricket was their profession and if they can play again after their retirement from top level international cricket and if they are healthy let them play the game rather than sitting around and spoiling their health doing nothing. If there are no audience for the tournament and no financial gains then they might not continue this as a huge tournament, it is as simple as that.
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Now I don't know who is going to watch these 50-year olds playing cricket.
Come on, it's certain that there will be no huge people to watch this, but you know millions of people are fan of Sachin, Sehwag. They will certainly watch.
It will not be much amazing matches but it will get more pleasure to their fan.
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Why do you think that shorter formats are bad for Cricket? Majority of the sports in this world that are really popular are short format games(Soccer etc). T-20 cricket breathed new life into the sport and majority including me absolutely love it.

Test matches are entertaining in their own way, but majority will always prefer shorter format games in comparison due to the time involved, entertainment factor etc. Most of these T-20 tournaments like IPL etc pay more than regular tournaments for these reasons primarily.

During the 80s and the 90s, there were only 8-9 teams playing international cricket and the national teams were only playing around 15-20 ODIs and less than 10 tests every year. But now every we are having international matches, and on top of that we have the numerous T20 leagues such as the IPL, BBL, and even the CPL from West Indies.

Earlier, it was not hard for people to take one or two days off from work and go to the stadiums to watch the test matches. Because it used to be played once in a while. But now many of the cricketers are seen in action round the clock, either in the international cricket or in T20 leagues. I am not saying that it is a bad thing. It has definitely helped the revenues and popularity of the game. All I am saying is that times have changed and the ICC should not push the test format on the throats of the cricket fans.
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"Retired" no longer means retired. Playing one or two exhibition matches every two or three years is OK. But here they are planning a whole series that is going to stretch for a few weeks. Looks like the financial glitter of the T20 game proved too hard to resist for many of these oldies. Now I don't know who is going to watch these 50-year olds playing cricket.
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To all: So we are talking about 100 balls cricket and length of cricket match?
I see not much cricket around these days after the Pakistan - Sir Lanka and India - South Africa series :-(
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Big fan of the Sehwag, Sachin Indian team. Great to see them back to the ground once again for showing how great they were. It will be a blessing for the new generation to see them playing.
Sehwag and Sachin were great players in the past and age is a real thing and i do not see them perform on that level but since this tournament is for retired players i would watch the match highlights.

Edit : About 100 ball Cricket
I don't welcome short format matches, it will certainly destroy the real cricket aka test format. ICC is now running test championship to encourage test format.
Come on these are retired players coming back to play cricket and they were not doing anything for a long time and 100 ball game is a fair game for retired players. Time is a factor in a competitive world and people does not have the time to spend so much time to watch a sport and hence short formats are necessary to keep the fans.
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Any former Pakistani players included in this tournament ?
Since this tournament will happen in India, that's why i am asking this question ?
Unfortunately no Retired cricketer from England, Pakistan, Bangladesh, New Zealand or Zimbabwe. Participants cricketers are from 5 test playing nations. India, South Africa, Australia, Sri Lanka and West Indies.

Edit : About 100 ball Cricket
I don't welcome short format matches, it will certainly destroy the real cricket aka test format. ICC is now running test championship to encourage test format.
Come on these are retired players coming back to play cricket and they were not doing anything for a long time and 100 ball game is a fair game for retired players. Time is a factor in a competitive world and people does not have the time to spend so much time to watch a sport and hence short formats are necessary to keep the fans.
Bro, Retired cricketers tournament is schedule in India and 100 ball tournament is for current International cricketers, its schedule in England. they both are different leagues.
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Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan set to feature in new T20 tournament

Now we are going to see all (5 Test playing nations) retired players in T-20 tournament, Which is schedule in India next year. Road Safety World Series. So far 110 retired players confirmed their participation, my guess is financial setup-auction rituals are similar to IPL if there are any.  



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Any former Pakistani players included in this tournament ?
Since this tournament will happen in India, that's why i am asking this question ?
legendary
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Edit : About 100 ball Cricket
I don't welcome short format matches, it will certainly destroy the real cricket aka test format. ICC is now running test championship to encourage test format.
Well i am Test cricket Fan as well and i prefer Test cricket over shorter Format any day. @Haunebu and @bryant.coleman already pointed out good points in favor of shorter format and we have to be realistic with the ground realities, we can't deny the fact that majority loves or prefer Shorter format and then there is a financial aspect. the more money any Board or ICC have in their piggy banks, then they can give extra boost to Test Format.

legendary
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I don't welcome short format matches, it will certainly destroy the real cricket aka test format. ICC is now running test championship to encourage test format.

When compared to T20 and ODI matches, relatively few people watch the test matches. They are no longer suitable, as people don't have free time to watch matches that can stretch for up to 40 hours. Even T20 matches are a bit too long, when compared to football or volleyball matches. The ICC can try their best, but they will find support for test matches only in the most hardcore regions (India, parts of England.etc).

Now coming to the new format launched by the ECB, I think that there is not much difference between it and the T20 format (100 balls vs 120 balls). I would still go with the T10 format, which was invented by some of the Pakistani expats in Abu Dhabi. An average T10 match is almost having the same duration as that of a NBA or EPL match.
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I don't welcome short format matches, it will certainly destroy the real cricket aka test format. ICC is now running test championship to encourage test format.
Why do you think that shorter formats are bad for Cricket? Majority of the sports in this world that are really popular are short format games(Soccer etc). T-20 cricket breathed new life into the sport and majority including me absolutely love it.

Test matches are entertaining in their own way, but majority will always prefer shorter format games in comparison due to the time involved, entertainment factor etc. Most of these T-20 tournaments like IPL etc pay more than regular tournaments for these reasons primarily.
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True, its treat for old timers and young generation as well. i am sure they are going to telecast on sports channels. they are planning to run this tournament for next 10 years or so and i hope spectators gives thumbs up to this initiative.  
Big fan of the Sehwag, Sachin Indian team. Great to see them back to the ground once again for showing how great they were. It will be a blessing for the new generation to see them playing.

Edit : About 100 ball Cricket
I don't welcome short format matches, it will certainly destroy the real cricket aka test format. ICC is now running test championship to encourage test format.
legendary
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Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan set to feature in new T20 tournament
Now we are going to see all (5 Test playing nations) retired players in T-20 tournament, Which is schedule in India next year. Road Safety World Series. So far 110 retired players confirmed their participation, my guess is financial setup-auction rituals are similar to IPL if there are any.  
Wow. This is awesome. I hope they telecast this tournament on the popular channels. It will be great to watch legends like Sachin, Lara, Sehwag etc play against bowlers like Lee, Muttiah etc even if they are way past their prime.

True, its treat for old timers and young generation as well. i am sure they are going to telecast on sports channels. they are planning to run this tournament for next 10 years or so and i hope spectators gives thumbs up to this initiative.  

Edit : About 100 ball Cricket
We can only speculate about Warner and Gayle atm but they have capability to switch their form in any franchise cricket anytime, so nothing to worry about per se. anyway this is the complete list of players Who registered for The Hundred Draft and in which price category?
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Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan set to feature in new T20 tournament
Now we are going to see all (5 Test playing nations) retired players in T-20 tournament, Which is schedule in India next year. Road Safety World Series. So far 110 retired players confirmed their participation, my guess is financial setup-auction rituals are similar to IPL if there are any.  
Wow. This is awesome. I hope they telecast this tournament on the popular channels. It will be great to watch legends like Sachin, Lara, Sehwag etc play against bowlers like Lee, Muttiah etc even if they are way past their prime.

Another tournament I am looking forward to. T-20 popularity continues to skyrocket leading to such fun tournaments. It will be interesting to watch if Warner and Gayle can recover their form through this tournament.
legendary
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Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Muttiah Muralitharan set to feature in new T20 tournament

Now we are going to see all (5 Test playing nations) retired players in T-20 tournament, Which is schedule in India next year. Road Safety World Series. So far 110 retired players confirmed their participation, my guess is financial setup-auction rituals are similar to IPL if there are any.  



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100 Ball Cricket, I am excited for this one!
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What I am suggesting is a second division cricket league, for those cities which are not participating in the IPL. For example, we can have teams from cities such as Kochi, Ahmedabad, Pune, Kanpur, Lucknow.etc. This will increase the fan following of cricket in the second tier cities. I would like to have 10 teams in IPL and another 10 in the second division.
This is definitely a good idea and I think a T-10 system would be better here though I feel that 8 teams in both the IPL and the 2nd division would be optimal . There is a high probability for something like this in the future due to the growing popularity of the IPL.

Now one of the most popular face of Indian cricket team Ganguly is getting honored to be the BCCI head. Let's wait and see what initiative he takes forward to give chance to young players.
This is great news. He is aiming at improving the BCCI administration while focusing primarily on 1st class Cricket. Hoping that he will bring some much needed changes unlike the previous corrupt presidents.
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