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How many and which teams are participating in this Pentangular T20I Series ? Is this only being shown online and can we see all the matches on this youtube channel or just this one ? I could not find any sports channel which is broadcasting it live.

There are five teams in this series, Oman, Ireland, Nepal, Netherlands and Hong Kong and if you are really interested to watch the match live, the Oman cricket board is streaming the match live in youtube.
This is the Youtube channel of Oman cricket board if you want to watch this series live.

Finally this 2019–20 Oman Pentangular Series comes to an end. Although this was not so popular series but still I watched the few matches through the above YouTube channel. Oman was the host and they were the winners finally. Also the strange thing was that there were no knockout matches and the winner was selected on the basis of who topped the table.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 13, 2019, 05:51:02 AM

Based on what I know, the Sri Lankan board has made a lot of wrong decisions in recent times and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. If this new batch of Sri Lankan players(Hasaranga etc) perform in IPL etc(If selected), they have a better chance at replacing the experienced players.

Just remembered about something related to IPL, after reading your post. The BCCI is planning to expand the number of teams from 8 to 10, although I am not sure whether they will implement this during the next season (2020). Some of the names that I have heard related to this expansion is that of Gautam Adani (Ahmedabad), Sanjeev Goenka (Pune) and Ratan Tata (Jamshedpur). The Kochi Tuskers also want to return to the IPL, but they don't have any backers within the BCCI.

In case they expand the IPL, then there will be 20 extra slots for the foreign players in the teams and 8 in the playing XI. On top of that the BCCI can expect anywhere from $700 million to $1 billion in franchise fee. I hope some of the talented Sri Lankan players will find place in the new teams.

And I don't understand the need to limit the number of teams to 8. In England they have 18 first-class teams. In India itself, a total of 37 teams are playing the Ranji trophy. Why can't we have one team each for every Ranji trophy side? We can divide them in to 3 divisions of 12 each, or 4 divisions of 9 each.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 13, 2019, 12:35:41 AM

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You are right, but it is never that simple to replace such players unless their board decides to take big decisions in favor of their country instead of focusing on politics and other stuff.

Based on what I know, the Sri Lankan board has made a lot of wrong decisions in recent times and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. If this new batch of Sri Lankan players(Hasaranga etc) perform in IPL etc(If selected), they have a better chance at replacing the experienced players.

This series may turn out to be a very positive one for Sri Lanka to restructure the main team. They saw some outstanding performance from some of the players in this series and considering some of them for the main team will worth a shot

It's good that they have now more options and now it's up to them how and who to pick. If I was in their foot then I would really had a very hard time.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 13, 2019, 05:31:03 AM

This is what the experienced guys achieved all these years:

1. They failed to advance to the semi finals during the 2019 Cricket World Cup. Finished with just 3 wins from 9 matches.
2. Failed to qualify directly to the 2020 T20 world cup, as they failed to secure a slot among the top-8 ranked teams.
3. Suffered an innings defeat to NZ at home this year.

I believe that it is time to say goodbye to most of these "experienced players".

You are right, but it is never that simple to replace such players unless their board decides to take big decisions in favor of their country instead of focusing on politics and other stuff.

Based on what I know, the Sri Lankan board has made a lot of wrong decisions in recent times and I doubt that this will change anytime soon. If this new batch of Sri Lankan players(Hasaranga etc) perform in IPL etc(If selected), they have a better chance at replacing the experienced players.

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Quote from: virasog on October 13, 2019, 05:09:56 AM

The new srilankan players were given a chance and they really performed well. It does not matter much how many of them will play in the next Srilanka ODI / T20 as the experienced players are still experienced but we can see the future of srilankan cricket team is bright as they have new emerging players and they have many more years to play.

The "experienced players" were given lot of chances. And what did they achieved recently? According to the ICC rankings, Sri Lanka is ranked 6th in tests, 8th in ODIs and 7th in T20Is (they were ranked 9th, but after the series win against Pakistan they gained two ranks). And their ODI ranking would have been much worse, if Lasith Malinga was not playing in the series against New Zealand.

This is what the experienced guys achieved all these years:

1. They failed to advance to the semi finals during the 2019 Cricket World Cup. Finished with just 3 wins from 9 matches.
2. Failed to qualify directly to the 2020 T20 world cup, as they failed to secure a slot among the top-8 ranked teams.
3. Suffered an innings defeat to NZ at home this year.

I believe that it is time to say goodbye to most of these "experienced players".

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 13, 2019, 03:05:14 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on October 13, 2019, 02:19:26 AM

It isn't so simple as you think. The B team did perform well in the T-20 series, but they failed in the ODI series. Also, a couple of good performances are not enough to state that they are superior to their experienced counterparts.

On top of all this, team politics will ensure that the experienced players will continue to play while only the best B team players like Hasaranga might be given chances in the future.

Their performance was not that bad in the ODI series either. The first ODI was washed out. They lost the second ODI by a big margin. But the 3rd match was really close and they had a fair chance to win that one.

OK.. let's leave aside the ODI series. Their T20 series win was nothing short of phenomenal. Consider this - they went to Pakistan with a second string team. Pakistan had the home advantage. Pakistan is the no.1 ranking side as far as T20 format is considered (as per the official ICC rankings). Pakistan had won 29 out of their last 33 T20 matches. And still Sri Lanka won the series 3-0. It was plain unbelievable.

Now coming to the team politics, the management may no longer support the senior players, as they went against their wishes and boycotted the Pakistan tour. Anyway... I am not an expert in this subject. Let's see what happens.

The new srilankan players were given a chance and they really performed well. It does not matter much how many of them will play in the next Srilanka ODI / T20 as the experienced players are still experienced but we can see the future of srilankan cricket team is bright as they have new emerging players and they have many more years to play.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 13, 2019, 02:19:26 AM

It isn't so simple as you think. The B team did perform well in the T-20 series, but they failed in the ODI series. Also, a couple of good performances are not enough to state that they are superior to their experienced counterparts.

On top of all this, team politics will ensure that the experienced players will continue to play while only the best B team players like Hasaranga might be given chances in the future.

Their performance was not that bad in the ODI series either. The first ODI was washed out. They lost the second ODI by a big margin. But the 3rd match was really close and they had a fair chance to win that one.

OK.. let's leave aside the ODI series. Their T20 series win was nothing short of phenomenal. Consider this - they went to Pakistan with a second string team. Pakistan had the home advantage. Pakistan is the no.1 ranking side as far as T20 format is considered (as per the official ICC rankings). Pakistan had won 29 out of their last 33 T20 matches. And still Sri Lanka won the series 3-0. It was plain unbelievable.

Now coming to the team politics, the management may no longer support the senior players, as they went against their wishes and boycotted the Pakistan tour. Anyway... I am not an expert in this subject. Let's see what happens.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 13, 2019, 01:10:29 AM

Those players who refused to tour Pakistan made a very grave mistake. Now their spots have been filled by players such as Wanindu Hasaranga, Oshada Fernando and Dasun Shanaka. It is going to be tough fight for slots in the playing XI and in my opinion, the so called "senior players" (Dimuth Karunaratne, Suranga Lakmal, Akila Dananjaya, Dinesh Chandimal, Niroshan Dickwella.etc) will now find themselves unemployed. I would say that their own arrogance led to their downfall. Now they can play domestic cricket and look for opportunities to get back to the senior side.

It isn't so simple as you think. The B team did perform well in the T-20 series, but they failed in the ODI series. Also, a couple of good performances are not enough to state that they are superior to their experienced counterparts.

On top of all this, team politics will ensure that the experienced players will continue to play while only the best B team players like Hasaranga might be given chances in the future.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 13, 2019, 12:35:41 AM

Those players who refused to tour Pakistan made a very grave mistake. Now their spots have been filled by players such as Wanindu Hasaranga, Oshada Fernando and Dasun Shanaka. It is going to be tough fight for slots in the playing XI and in my opinion, the so called "senior players" (Dimuth Karunaratne, Suranga Lakmal, Akila Dananjaya, Dinesh Chandimal, Niroshan Dickwella.etc) will now find themselves unemployed. I would say that their own arrogance led to their downfall. Now they can play domestic cricket and look for opportunities to get back to the senior side.

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The Barbados Tridents won the CPL final, after beating the Guyana Amazon Warriors by 27 runs. This time they had another successful event, but got hardly any coverage in India (as no Indian players were participating in the CPL). Some of the Pakistani players (such as Shoaib Malik) were participating, but Pakistanis also showed little interest as an international series against Sri Lanka was ongoing at the same time.

All that aside, the Caribbean Premier League has now successfully completed 7 editions ever since it has first played in 2013. I need to congratulate the WICB for the grand success of this tournament, as many of the more powerful boards had failed to stage a similar T20 event (I am talking about the cricket boards of Sri Lanka, South Africa.etc).

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 12, 2019, 11:07:16 AM

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And among them were players such as Mohammed Azharuddin and Ajay Jadeja of India and Hansie Cronje of South Africa. I don't know how you can blame Pakistan as a team.

Mohammed Azharuddin, Ajay Jadeja and Cronje match fixing scandal broke during 2000 and ten years after that there was a spot fixing scandal from Pakistan and many players were banned and then the IPL scandal in 2013, so when ever you see these performance people will naturally think about match fixing as people were cheated several times in the past.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 11, 2019, 11:55:23 AM

I can confidently say that match fixing has become obsolete during the last 10-12 years.

If that is the case, Pakistan spot fixing scandal by Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir in 2010 and in 2014 Lou Vincent accepted fixing matches and then the IPL scandal in 2014 and then Sharjeel Khan was banned in 2017 for his involvement Tongue

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The risk are always high but still people engage in match fixing but i am not telling that the recent match was fixed but match fixing is part and parcel of cricket and other sporting events.

I think we need a separate thread for Match fixing. This is never ending debate. Huh

Lets focus on the next T20 match please.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 11, 2019, 11:55:23 AM

And among them were players such as Mohammed Azharuddin and Ajay Jadeja of India and Hansie Cronje of South Africa. I don't know how you can blame Pakistan as a team.

Mohammed Azharuddin, Ajay Jadeja and Cronje match fixing scandal broke during 2000 and ten years after that there was a spot fixing scandal from Pakistan and many players were banned and then the IPL scandal in 2013, so when ever you see these performance people will naturally think about match fixing as people were cheated several times in the past.

Quote from: Sithara007 on October 11, 2019, 11:55:23 AM

I can confidently say that match fixing has become obsolete during the last 10-12 years.

If that is the case, Pakistan spot fixing scandal by Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir in 2010 and in 2014 Lou Vincent accepted fixing matches and then the IPL scandal in 2014 and then Sharjeel Khan was banned in 2017 for his involvement Tongue

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The risk are always high but still people engage in match fixing but i am not telling that the recent match was fixed but match fixing is part and parcel of cricket and other sporting events.

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Despite the loss, it seems that Pakistan still stays on top of the rankings in the T-20 format though they need to perform really well in the future if they wish to hold on to that spot with England hot on their heels.

Azam retains the top batsman(T-20) in the rankings. Also, Ireland might tour Pakistan in the near future which is great news for the Pakistan fans. Hopefully, Pakistan will be able to host more and more teams as time passes through security improvements etc.

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Lol..Everyone is saying "Please stop this" and then writing a paragraph on it. Cheesy

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Just stop this. No one in their right mind would believe that the matches were fixed. If you think so, then I am 100% sure that you didn't watched the matches. In the past, a lot of players have got banned for match fixing. And among them were players such as Mohammed Azharuddin and Ajay Jadeja of India and Hansie Cronje of South Africa. I don't know how you can blame Pakistan as a team.

Match fixing is not worth the risk now. Nowadays the players are really well, and they won't be ready to risk their career for very small amounts. That was not the case earlier, and some of the players who had financial issues were unfortunate enough to fell in to the trap set by the fixers. I can confidently say that match fixing has become obsolete during the last 10-12 years.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 11, 2019, 10:52:32 AM

Quote from: Thekool1s on October 11, 2019, 09:41:36 AM

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I am not mixing any politics with cricket. I am just answering to the ones who are saying something wrong about the terrorism. You need to re-read the posts.

My post was pointed at them as much as it was pointed at you. smdh...

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Also i do admit that Pakistan did not play well and Srilanka turn out to be a better team among the two. I just shared a news which i heard.

And when I asked for your source you gave none... Do you know what it can lead to for your team if it turns out to be true? Expect a ban on Pakistan to play International Cricket for at least a Decade and getting ripped of Test Status and so on. BTW I'm still waiting for that source of yours...

You are taking this too far.
You should know that these are speculation and there is no source for them.
Remember what happen in the last world cup ?

Match fixing is an old game and no one gets ban from it because no clue is left behind and you are asking for source Cheesy

@UmerIdrees Please stop this all now we are not here for any explanation and talk show we are here just for some talk about cricket and fun so its too much and not accepted please stop and lets see what happen in future with Pakistan and Cricket in Pakistan all will watch good luck to all.

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Quote from: Thekool1s on October 11, 2019, 09:41:36 AM

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I am not mixing any politics with cricket. I am just answering to the ones who are saying something wrong about the terrorism. You need to re-read the posts.

My post was pointed at them as much as it was pointed at you. smdh...

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Also i do admit that Pakistan did not play well and Srilanka turn out to be a better team among the two. I just shared a news which i heard.

And when I asked for your source you gave none... Do you know what it can lead to for your team if it turns out to be true? Expect a ban on Pakistan to play International Cricket for at least a Decade and getting ripped of Test Status and so on. BTW I'm still waiting for that source of yours...

You are taking this too far.
You should know that these are speculation and there is no source for them.
Remember what happen in the last world cup ?

Match fixing is an old game and no one gets ban from it because no clue is left behind and you are asking for source Cheesy

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I am not mixing any politics with cricket. I am just answering to the ones who are saying something wrong about the terrorism. You need to re-read the posts.

My post was pointed at them as much as it was pointed at you. smdh...

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Also i do admit that Pakistan did not play well and Srilanka turn out to be a better team among the two. I just shared a news which i heard.

And when I asked for your source you gave none... Do you know what it can lead to for your team if it turns out to be true? Expect a ban on Pakistan to play International Cricket for at least a Decade and getting ripped of Test Status and so on. BTW I'm still waiting for that source of yours...

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 11, 2019, 02:36:10 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 10, 2019, 11:54:39 AM

I am getting some inside news as the T20 series was fixed and Pakistan board didn't want srilanka team to went empty handed Huh

You seem to never learn from your past mistakes. Why do you always mix politics and Cricket? This fixed matches bullshit is simply another excuse and you need to accept the fact that Sri Lanka were the better team through and through in the T-20 series.

This young Sri Lankan team has overcome many obstacles and deserve the praise they are getting at the moment(Hasaranga etc). Instead of coming up with excuses all the time, try and encourage your team to improve and move forward.

I am not mixing any politics with cricket. I am just answering to the ones who are saying something wrong about the terrorism. You need to re-read the posts.
Also i do admit that Pakistan did not play well and Srilanka turn out to be a better team among the two. I just shared a news which i heard.

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