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Wel... My personal thinking about this ones is that sometimes the criticism leads you to the perfection but I think it should be done in a limit as if one player is being a legend for 2 years and, He is doing really great but suddenly in some series he didn't perform well it never means that you can criticise him out of the way yes as time never flows in same way so our audience need to adopt some mature type of the criticism.
Criticism is a must, it helps them understand the feelings of the common people. They're not representing themselves, they're representing the entire nation. Players gets used to criticism, but at times it make them go down. Such scenario should not happen, because they should understand that the same people is the one to praise when they perform good.
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Wel... My personal thinking about this ones is that sometimes the criticism leads you to the perfection but I think it should be done in a limit as if one player is being a legend for 2 years and, He is doing really great but suddenly in some series he didn't perform well it never means that you can criticise him out of the way yes as time never flows in same way so our audience need to adopt some mature type of the criticism.
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Collins Obuya is the last remaining member of the Kenyan squad that played in the 2003 ODI World Cup. Now he is 41 years old. Younger people may not know this, but in 2003, Kenya surprised everyone by reaching the semi-finals of the world cup. Everyone thought that they will become the next test playing nation after Bangladesh. But the ICC destroyed them by reducing their funds and not allotting them any tours from the full member nations. The performance went down, and they lost their ODI status in 2014.
In 2003 WC both Pakistan and India were out in group stages while Kenya managed to reach not on there performance but due to many matches affected by rain. But I do agree they were as good as Zimbabwe and Bangladesh in those days. We saw Zimbabwe coming  back to icc events in recent T20 WC after along absence. ICC really need to do something to bring back Kenya.
Back in 2003, Pakistan couldn't progress to the super-6 stage, but India managed to reach the finals (where they lost to Australia). Are you talking about the 2007 World Cup? Kenya on their part finished with 4 wins in the group phase (against Canada, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, walkover against New Zealand), and then in the super-6 phase they defeated Zimbabwe to finish at the 3rd position. Their dream run ended when they got defeated by India at the semi-final. None of the matches got washed out by rain. 

Kenya is now almost non-existent in the cricketing world. But once they were forced to be reckoned with. I don’t think that situation in Kenya is going to improve. Right now ICC is absolutely ignoring them. And that is obviously not good news for them. Right now that other teams which were not so big are doing very well. Teams like Bangladesh, and Ireland are improving a lot. It is really sad that just because ICC not taking care of a team they are now lost in time.
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I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
Two players of the Pakistani team, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, have a big responsibility. Victory and defeat depend on them. As a result i think their normal batting is disrupted due to the additional pressure of the team along with his own batting. But I think SR can be increased if two or three good and reliable batsman like them add to the team. I believe any batsman will do well if he can play without pressure. If I see the SR of few Indian T20 players first Ishan Kishan his SR is 132, Rishabh Pant 147 and Suryakumar Yadav 136. I agree with you that Rizwan should try to increase his SR.

In the last T-20 WC, it was Pakistani middle order who put their foot down many times and scored valuable runs so it's a positive.

Imagine one of the openers (Babar or Rizwan) start playing with the intent and then they have Masood at 3 (he kinda reinvented himself) and Shadab, who is already an exciting LOIs player. Build a team around these batters and you got a nice combination.


That's do followed point. Actually in the Asian countries the team selection is based on the emotion's haha let me explain my term as if you got a very bad combination even but you won a match by good fight no one is going to talk anything about your mis-feilds and you are going to be the hero and if you got a real good team but they performed a little bad then bro your all perfection is gone now you are dead haha.. so criticism goes on.
It is not only among Asians. Criticism is for those who are capable of doing good. When a good team does badly, it is criticized but the team that just participated in the game does not do well they will not be the topic of criticism. In this context, I refer to Qatar's football tournament where Argentina conceded defeat to Saudi Arabia and the entire world criticized the game. No matter how well you play, if the results are not good, you have to face criticism.
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I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
Two players of the Pakistani team, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, have a big responsibility. Victory and defeat depend on them. As a result i think their normal batting is disrupted due to the additional pressure of the team along with his own batting. But I think SR can be increased if two or three good and reliable batsman like them add to the team. I believe any batsman will do well if he can play without pressure. If I see the SR of few Indian T20 players first Ishan Kishan his SR is 132, Rishabh Pant 147 and Suryakumar Yadav 136. I agree with you that Rizwan should try to increase his SR.

In the last T-20 WC, it was Pakistani middle order who put their foot down many times and scored valuable runs so it's a positive.

Imagine one of the openers (Babar or Rizwan) start playing with the intent and then they have Masood at 3 (he kinda reinvented himself) and Shadab, who is already an exciting LOIs player. Build a team around these batters and you got a nice combination.


That's do followed point. Actually in the Asian countries the team selection is based on the emotion's haha let me explain my term as if you got a very bad combination even but you won a match by good fight no one is going to talk anything about your mis-feilds and you are going to be the hero and if you got a real good team but they performed a little bad then bro your all perfection is gone now you are dead haha.. so criticism goes on.
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Players are usually divided in cricket. Especially the player who plays well in T20, board tries to keep him in T20 format. Rizwan is basically a T20 batsman. He may not have played well in a few matches but he is actually a regular batsman in Pakistan's T20 squad. If we look at his statistics then that can be easily understood.




I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
Two players of the Pakistani team, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, have a big responsibility. Victory and defeat depend on them. As a result i think their normal batting is disrupted due to the additional pressure of the team along with his own batting. But I think SR can be increased if two or three good and reliable batsman like them add to the team. I believe any batsman will do well if he can play without pressure. If I see the SR of few Indian T20 players first Ishan Kishan his SR is 132, Rishabh Pant 147 and Suryakumar Yadav 136. I agree with you that Rizwan should try to increase his SR.

What you said is actually true that Babar Azam and Rizwan's Pakistan have become a little more too dependent and that's why most of the match depend on their batting for win or lose. And I think it is slowly taking its toll on the Pakistan team.  Pakistan management team should fix their middle order very soon. If not, Pakistan will have to face more big shocks like T20 World Cup.
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I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
Two players of the Pakistani team, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, have a big responsibility. Victory and defeat depend on them. As a result i think their normal batting is disrupted due to the additional pressure of the team along with his own batting. But I think SR can be increased if two or three good and reliable batsman like them add to the team. I believe any batsman will do well if he can play without pressure. If I see the SR of few Indian T20 players first Ishan Kishan his SR is 132, Rishabh Pant 147 and Suryakumar Yadav 136. I agree with you that Rizwan should try to increase his SR.

In the last T-20 WC, it was Pakistani middle order who put their foot down many times and scored valuable runs so it's a positive.

Imagine one of the openers (Babar or Rizwan) start playing with the intent and then they have Masood at 3 (he kinda reinvented himself) and Shadab, who is already an exciting LOIs player. Build a team around these batters and you got a nice combination.
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After a long time we have seen a batsman like Suryakumar Yadav,  his hitting style and aggressiveness on field is phenomenal and different from today's batsman . He's everyone's favourite nowadays because of his batting and wonderful fielding.
He's the new ABD in the world of Cricket if you ask me. I remember one of his recent shots where he scooped a full toss ball behind for a six. He had to move towards it and made such a difficult shot look very easy.
Hardik recently stated that he should have started playing international cricket several years back itself and I completely agree with him.
The match  absolutely turned on its head when Laura Harris played that innings of 44 runs from only 14 balls. She absolutely turned that match on its head. Eventually they won very easily. But for the Hobart hurricanes, no one actually played that type of innings.
Lol. What the heck are you talking about? Read the post properly before replying hurriedly.

Haha it seems like many of us are having fun with the Football Tournament well thats good we need something to spend time on and entertainment too but i think as my dear fellow said above we need to Catagories it, this is T20I thread so be consistent and post good cricket stuff.
Agreed. There are several football discussion threads in the gambling discussion board and gambling board which is why it's best to only focus on T-20 stuff in this thread as you mentioned.
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Collins Obuya is the last remaining member of the Kenyan squad that played in the 2003 ODI World Cup. Now he is 41 years old. Younger people may not know this, but in 2003, Kenya surprised everyone by reaching the semi-finals of the world cup. Everyone thought that they will become the next test playing nation after Bangladesh. But the ICC destroyed them by reducing their funds and not allotting them any tours from the full member nations. The performance went down, and they lost their ODI status in 2014.

In 2003 WC both Pakistan and India were out in group stages while Kenya managed to reach not on there performance but due to many matches affected by rain. But I do agree they were as good as Zimbabwe and Bangladesh in those days. We saw Zimbabwe coming  back to icc events in recent T20 WC after along absence. ICC really need to do something to bring back Kenya.

Back in 2003, Pakistan couldn't progress to the super-6 stage, but India managed to reach the finals (where they lost to Australia). Are you talking about the 2007 World Cup? Kenya on their part finished with 4 wins in the group phase (against Canada, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka, walkover against New Zealand), and then in the super-6 phase they defeated Zimbabwe to finish at the 3rd position. Their dream run ended when they got defeated by India at the semi-final. None of the matches got washed out by rain. 
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Collins Obuya is the last remaining member of the Kenyan squad that played in the 2003 ODI World Cup. Now he is 41 years old. Younger people may not know this, but in 2003, Kenya surprised everyone by reaching the semi-finals of the world cup. Everyone thought that they will become the next test playing nation after Bangladesh. But the ICC destroyed them by reducing their funds and not allotting them any tours from the full member nations. The performance went down, and they lost their ODI status in 2014.

In 2003 WC both Pakistan and India were out in group stages while Kenya managed to reach not on there performance but due to many matches affected by rain. But I do agree they were as good as Zimbabwe and Bangladesh in those days. We saw Zimbabwe coming  back to icc events in recent T20 WC after along absence. ICC really need to do something to bring back Kenya.
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Players are usually divided in cricket. Especially the player who plays well in T20, board tries to keep him in T20 format. Rizwan is basically a T20 batsman. He may not have played well in a few matches but he is actually a regular batsman in Pakistan's T20 squad. If we look at his statistics then that can be easily understood.




I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
Two players of the Pakistani team, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, have a big responsibility. Victory and defeat depend on them. As a result i think their normal batting is disrupted due to the additional pressure of the team along with his own batting. But I think SR can be increased if two or three good and reliable batsman like them add to the team. I believe any batsman will do well if he can play without pressure. If I see the SR of few Indian T20 players first Ishan Kishan his SR is 132, Rishabh Pant 147 and Suryakumar Yadav 136. I agree with you that Rizwan should try to increase his SR.
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Adelaide Strikers Women vs Brisbane Heat Women in the match Brisbane Heat Women won the toss and decided to bat. Brisbane Heat Women scored 132 runs in 17 overs. In this match Adelaide Strikers Women bowled hard and Brisbane Heat Women put a lot of pressure on the batsmen in this match.  It is performing very well.
Brisbane Heat Women have given a target of 154 runs which is not much and sometimes it becomes a big target. Adelaide Strikers Women already managed to score 76 runs in 11 overs after losing 3 wickets. The required run rate here is 8.78 which is not very high. But they still have the risk. If two more wickets are taken easily, Brisbane Heat Women could turn the game in this match. And after just 4 overs we will be able to predict about the result in this match.
Spirited Adelaide Striker fighted back and done amazing job through their power hitters Deandra Dottin 39 from 21 balls through 3 sixes and then Bridget Patterson 45 from 26 man of the match performance from another power hitter Laura Wolvaardt 47 of 45 this was heartbreaker for the Brisbane Heats as they were dominating but at the end lost this close encounter, and now they have to wait for another season for having place into final two were now we have Sydney Sixers vs Adelaide Strikers on 26 November.
Now final is going to be the most exciting match of this season as both top rank teams are already in and their firepower is waiting for giving their best for this season's title which could end in any way.

This was a fascinating match. A very competitive match as well. I thought that the Brisbane Heat would win and that they would have a high total. I thought they were going to be very confident and they would probably successfully be able to defend that total as well. But I was wrong. Adelaide Strikers women have played very well. All the players of the Adelaide Strikers understood the task at hand very thoroughly. Except for Mack and Laura, every one of the Adelaide Strikers played really well. They did not waste a single ball. They started playing attacking cricket from the start and eventually, it was a very convincing win for them.
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Did any of you saw the match results of Kenya vs Botswana. In the one off tournament Botswana have scored 116/6 in 20 overs. Kenya have reached the target in 11.3 overs losing just 2 wickets. I took this to convey that among the small teams they've got aggressive performance coming out. Obuya of Kenya have scored 74 runs of 39 balls. Seems like he's the Suryakumar Yadav of Kenya.

Collins Obuya is the last remaining member of the Kenyan squad that played in the 2003 ODI World Cup. Now he is 41 years old. Younger people may not know this, but in 2003, Kenya surprised everyone by reaching the semi-finals of the world cup. Everyone thought that they will become the next test playing nation after Bangladesh. But the ICC destroyed them by reducing their funds and not allotting them any tours from the full member nations. The performance went down, and they lost their ODI status in 2014.
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Players are usually divided in cricket. Especially the player who plays well in T20, board tries to keep him in T20 format. Rizwan is basically a T20 batsman. He may not have played well in a few matches but he is actually a regular batsman in Pakistan's T20 squad. If we look at his statistics then that can be easily understood.




I absolutely love Rizwan the WK batter for his consistency but in T-20 he needs to up his game drastically as far as SR is concerned. In modern T-20 cricket, it's a crime for an opener to have a 126 SR after playing 80 matches.

If he can improve his SR, let's say 140-145 with an average of 40-ish or even 38-ish then he would be a more dangerous T-20 player.
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Not only Rizwan, Babar Azam need to improve his batting skills. Both Babar and Rizwan scoring rate is low and do agree that that's the reason why Pakistan middle order lineup is struggling in T20. Both Rizwan and Babar score 60 runs in 10 overs and middle order in last over have to score runs. That's why players like Asif Ali are not performing.
There is no doubt now twenty/20 format is very fast game and it needs quick changes if you are not going to have adopted this then surely you are going out of the competition very quickly things are having drastically change just watch England how they adopt new changes and now ruling in white ball format which is surely amazing stuff right now Pakistan is doing good job just because of their bowling in batting they need to improve their technique and style which must if they want to have positive results because if they are not going to have any improvement then surely they can fall out badly in coming years.

Mohammad Rizwan is doing good job but alone he can't handle things every time they must need to improve their middle order and having few power hitters like India is having in recent time specially SKY who is doing amazing job, and he can do this for many years with his technique and style which is best in current time.

I have said this before and I am going to say this again. Pakistan can not depend on certain players to do all the jobs. The Pakistani team must come out of the mentality of thinking that they have a few world-class players and are always able to perform regardless of what happens. If they cannot find players who can perform at any given time in any given format of cricket, they will find it very difficult to succeed. In the short form of the game, Pakistan is finding it difficult to cope with it. And they will have to do that quickly because it is only a matter of time before ODI cricket also loses its importance. I think very soon it will be only the T20 and T10 formats ruling the cricketing world.

I am not saying that Babar Azam or Rizwan is a disgraceful player. I am just saying that these two cannot carry Pakistan in every match.
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Did any of you saw the match results of Kenya vs Botswana. In the one off tournament Botswana have scored 116/6 in 20 overs. Kenya have reached the target in 11.3 overs losing just 2 wickets. I took this to convey that among the small teams they've got aggressive performance coming out. Obuya of Kenya have scored 74 runs of 39 balls. Seems like he's the Suryakumar Yadav of Kenya.
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Haha it seems like many of us are having fun with the Football Tournament well thats good we need something to spend time on and entertainment too but i think as my dear fellow said above we need to Catagories it, this is T20I thread so be consistent and post good cricket stuff.

Perhaps they cannot find any topic to discuss. And so we see a discussion about football in the T20 thread. However we should be more regular. The India vs New Zealand T20 series has just ended. And now Women's Big Bash League is being held. We can discuss this. But not many people are very interested in women's cricket. I think we should keep an eye on women's cricket now as well as men's cricket. Because gradually women's cricket is becoming quite popular.
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Haha it seems like many of us are having fun with the Football Tournament well thats good we need something to spend time on and entertainment too but i think as my dear fellow said above we need to Catagories it, this is T20I thread so be consistent and post good cricket stuff.
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It is not granted that all the games will have the same result because all the teams are good because they can participate in games like T20, ODI and international games so there will be wins and losses in the games everyone wants to win so no team can be neglected as weak which is  We sometimes see some underdogs emerge victorious
That's the point that every strong team like Pakistan, SouthAfrica, Argentina, Germany when ever they neglected the weak and underdog team they result ashamed him, so the point is that you will not neglected any small team because they work hard and hard to reach at that point to face you at big even like world cup they must be an improved team, so if you take it easy it will smashed you like Zimbabwe and Saudi Arabia and Japan did in world cup

Let's not mix the football world cup in this cricket discussion thread, however, there are upsets in every sport and therefore we witness a few upsets in the T20 world cup and the same upsets being observed in the Fifa world cup. Small teams usually do not beat the big teams, but when they do, most of gamblers lose their bet as people usually bet on the stronger team and do not take risks with the underdog teams.

By the way, sometimes we witness that weather takes the control of the series and teams can't do anything. We saw only one of the match to be fully completed and two matches drawn due to rain and bad weather in the NZ India series.
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Not only Rizwan, Babar Azam need to improve his batting skills. Both Babar and Rizwan scoring rate is low and do agree that that's the reason why Pakistan middle order lineup is struggling in T20. Both Rizwan and Babar score 60 runs in 10 overs and middle order in last over have to score runs. That's why players like Asif Ali are not performing.
There is no doubt now twenty/20 format is very fast game and it needs quick changes if you are not going to have adopted this then surely you are going out of the competition very quickly things are having drastically change just watch England how they adopt new changes and now ruling in white ball format which is surely amazing stuff right now Pakistan is doing good job just because of their bowling in batting they need to improve their technique and style which must if they want to have positive results because if they are not going to have any improvement then surely they can fall out badly in coming years.

Mohammad Rizwan is doing good job but alone he can't handle things every time they must need to improve their middle order and having few power hitters like India is having in recent time specially SKY who is doing amazing job, and he can do this for many years with his technique and style which is best in current time.
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