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I watched today's match completely, I am totally disappointed, I thought Pakistan can do better, Pakistan's batting was very good, but Pakistan's bowlers bowled very badly. It is really a shame for Pakistan. England batsmen were able to play the Pakistani bowlers very easily, they had no confusion to play the Pakistani bowlers. England batsmen played well. England played very well so England deserved to win today's match England batsmen gave a very good performance, Pakistan scored 169 for 6 in 20 overs and set England a target of 170 runs. England achieved the target by two wickets in 16 overs.

Yes it is absolutely true that the match was lost due to the random bowling of the bowlers even though they bowled very well in the last match but could not maintain that consistency in this match but I think I did not find any weak points in the batsmen to say the least because of the lack of consistency in the bowlers of the Pakistani team who lost this match. Maybe the batsmen could have been confused by changing the pace of the bowling
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Speaking from experience and being honest  I don't think we won't attract many participants as most of them hardly care for any pool or this small cricket community for obvious reasons, it's disappointing but I hardly blame them for this behavior.
True indeed, we never had a lot of times other than the sponsorship from Sportbet.one (is it). That edition was of free entry fee and attracted a lot of participants. Anyway, we can try to get a bigger amount, that may attract some participants.

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I'm confused about entry fees, as usual. We know we won't attract many participants even if we keep entry fees around 5 bucks. So how about keeping entry fees to 50 bucks this time?

Suggestions are welcomed. So guys go ahead.
That would limit the participants I think. I personally have no problem with 2-3mbtc entry fees but people wouldn't be interested. Let's see what other think. If we get a sponsor, the pool amount will be bigger and in that case, it will be possible to have a larger amount of entry fee too.
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Posting here to know if anyone is interested to have a pool for the upcoming T20 world cup. Sorry if it has been already discussed. I didn't take the time to read the last few pages though I have read a few recent replies. We may try to get some sponsors for the pool to make it lucrative. Please reply here if someone is interested. If we got 10+ interested users, we can create one. If Royse777 or JSRAW is up for creating the pool, I'm also requesting them to have their opinion here. Having a pool would be cool, would definitely enjoy it with you.
I was about to create a dedicated thread for the upcoming WC last week but got busy with work. I'll create one soon, may be in next week.

Speaking from experience and being honest  I don't think we won't attract many participants as most of them hardly care for any pool or this small cricket community for obvious reasons, it's disappointing but I hardly blame them for this behavior. 

I'm confused about entry fees, as usual. We know we won't attract many participants even if we keep entry fees around 5 bucks. So how about keeping entry fees to 50 bucks this time?

Suggestions are welcomed. So guys go ahead.

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Its a game you never know with T 20. Tomorrow you will say again Pakistan got lucky to win series haha.

We don't know who will win the final match between England and Pakistan but the bookies think that England are more favorite to win this match. Seeing the performance of Pakistan in the last match, i also don't give many points to Pakistan and rather favor England to win the match and series.

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Last match Pakistan's runs were relatively low. As a result, England was able to overcome that run very easily. A major weakness of the Pakistani batsman is that once the first 4 wickets fall, they don't spend much time on the remaining wickets. It is very difficult to rely on them. They are performing well and win in any difficult situation again they losing the easy match. So there is no dependency on their team.

Are you saying 170 is relatively low in T20Is? Come on, man. 170 is a decent score in a 20-over game. It was not a low-scoring match. As I already said, 170 is defendable. But, the Pakistani Bowling show was deplorable. The way England batted, They could easily cross the 230+ runs because they had another six overs in hand. So, I won't say it was the fault of Pakistani batters. It was the fault of the Pakistani bowling line. No bowlers were able to create pressure on their batting lineup.
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However the seven match series had turned more interesting with the win of England. Yeah, the team is dependent on few players and their fail completely stops the scoring of the team. From the bowling end, one who bowled well weren't able to keep the form. Dahani and Jamal had a whooping economy of 16.5 and 15 runs per over which needs to be lowered.

Yeah, But look at their top order in the last game. Philip Salt was unbeatable, and his strike rate was 214+. 170 Runs in a T20I is not too bad. It's defendable. Also, It's chasable too. But the way Pakistani bowlers bowled was unexpected and poor. Credit goes to England's batters. They batted very well. The way they batted, it looks like they are chasing 220+. Chasing 170 in 14 overs is extraordinary. Nothing remarkable about Pak bowlers. I hope they will come back in the next match.

The series goes to a decider thanks to Phil Salt's stunning assault and brilliant batting! As a result of his batting attitude, the match was one-sided. The Pakistani team scored a decent total, however. You'd expect this when you played a third-string bowling attack in a crucial match. In the England vs Pakistan series, I have noticed a great deal of fluctuation. There will be a lot of interest in decider match.
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However the seven match series had turned more interesting with the win of England. Yeah, the team is dependent on few players and their fail completely stops the scoring of the team. From the bowling end, one who bowled well weren't able to keep the form. Dahani and Jamal had a whooping economy of 16.5 and 15 runs per over which needs to be lowered.

Yeah, But look at their top order in the last game. Philip Salt was unbeatable, and his strike rate was 214+. 170 Runs in a T20I is not too bad. It's defendable. Also, It's chasable too. But the way Pakistani bowlers bowled was unexpected and poor. Credit goes to England's batters. They batted very well. The way they batted, it looks like they are chasing 220+. Chasing 170 in 14 overs is extraordinary. Nothing remarkable about Pak bowlers. I hope they will come back in the next match.
Last match Pakistan's runs were relatively low. As a result, England was able to overcome that run very easily. A major weakness of the Pakistani batsman is that once the first 4 wickets fall, they don't spend much time on the remaining wickets. It is very difficult to rely on them. They are performing well and win in any difficult situation again they losing the easy match. So there is no dependency on their team.
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However the seven match series had turned more interesting with the win of England. Yeah, the team is dependent on few players and their fail completely stops the scoring of the team. From the bowling end, one who bowled well weren't able to keep the form. Dahani and Jamal had a whooping economy of 16.5 and 15 runs per over which needs to be lowered.

Yeah, But look at their top order in the last game. Philip Salt was unbeatable, and his strike rate was 214+. 170 Runs in a T20I is not too bad. It's defendable. Also, It's chasable too. But the way Pakistani bowlers bowled was unexpected and poor. Credit goes to England's batters. They batted very well. The way they batted, it looks like they are chasing 220+. Chasing 170 in 14 overs is extraordinary. Nothing remarkable about Pak bowlers. I hope they will come back in the next match.
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I am very surprised to see the batting of England's batsmen. The final match will decide which team will win the series.
England decimated Pakistan as expected. Honestly, England lost recent matches because of their own stupidity and Pakistan got really lucky towards the end. Their luck clearly ran out in this match though.

I feel that England will end up winning the final match too since Pakistan is over-dependent on their top order which won't get resolved anytime soon.

No Doubt England played really well as Bowling experiments of Pakistan using Jamal and others failed to perform in this match.

Hahaha Dude always read your comments really non appreciative comments, so not a big deal i will wait for tomorrows match when you will take your words back again, it will be fun in tomorrows matches. I don't see any other teams got lucky called by you. Dude really you will be disappointed by the Tomorrows Pakistans performance. Its a game you never know with T 20. Tomorrow you will say again Pakistan got lucky to win series haha.
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It was hard to predict to be frank as England were inconsistent throughout this tournament. In the first match they chased the total and in the 4th and 5th match they struggled to chase the score and lost by a small margin and hence i had no idea how they will perform in this match.
Agreed. England are the new chokers these days since they get close and end up losing due to silly mistakes at the end. They have many talented batsmen who are in great form while Wood is their best bowler.

On the other hand, only a couple of players from Pakistan are in great form(Azam, Rizwan etc). This is why I bet on England to win the final between them.
I think both Pakistan and England are very strong teams.  Although both their teams have good quality players, England players are now fully fit.  Due to which England is slightly ahead of Pakistan.  But I think whoever bats later has a better chance to win this match.  So thinking here before playing.  Nothing can be imagined.
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It was hard to predict to be frank as England were inconsistent throughout this tournament. In the first match they chased the total and in the 4th and 5th match they struggled to chase the score and lost by a small margin and hence i had no idea how they will perform in this match.
Agreed. England are the new chokers these days since they get close and end up losing due to silly mistakes at the end. They have many talented batsmen who are in great form while Wood is their best bowler.

On the other hand, only a couple of players from Pakistan are in great form(Azam, Rizwan etc). This is why I bet on England to win the final between them.
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Pakistan and England teams both are stronger. I can see the proof of this 7-match long T20 series. Each of the team have won 3 out of 6 matches. Tomorrow the series will be decided who is the best in this series. Which team do you think will win the next match? One important thing is to win the toss. The team who wins the toss will be slightly ahead.
Yes, I think you are right.  In this match those who won the toss and took filling won most of the matches.  But we know that Pakistan and England have very good quality players.  So we cannot predict which team will win.  But hopefully if Pakistan wins the toss and decides to field then it will be good for them.
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We just concluded the Men's Asia Cup and now the Women's T20 Asia Cup is underway.

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We have seen for a long time that there is no consistency in the performance of the Pakistan team. Their batting performance depends on 2/3 batsmen. And while their bowlers are talented, they cannot perform consistently well. Despite scoring only 146 runs in the previous match, Pakistan won only on the brilliant performance of the bowlers. But today they lost badly even after giving a target of 170 runs. England team reached the target of victory in just 14.3 overs.
Historically Pakistan is unpredictable team they have never been consistent even their peak time just like we have West Indies in their golden era and third team which is having tag is South Africa they are chokers in cricket even now with their system and quality they are down in this tag but here we are talking about Pakistan they have few good players but due to some inner selection issues and personal likes and dislikes they have too many issues if one day they are hammering badly then surely second day they could be going down like we have school/gali cricket in subcontinent.

In sixth match, they were playing with the weakest bowling side like debutant Jamal, Dhani and Mohammad Waseem which is the main reason for their lost in this match badly but now hopefully we will have some good game in last match as players need some rest in this long series.
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Pakistan and England teams both are stronger. I can see the proof of this 7-match long T20 series. Each of the team have won 3 out of 6 matches. Tomorrow the series will be decided who is the best in this series. Which team do you think will win the next match? One important thing is to win the toss. The team who wins the toss will be slightly ahead.
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I am very surprised to see the batting of England's batsmen. They are batting for 170 runs. At the end of 10 overs, England collected 129 runs. They lost only two wickets. Opener Phil Salt scored 74 runs off 28 balls. He scored a fifty off 19 balls. England has found some great batsmen. I think England will win the next World Cup if these batsmen are in form.
Apart from Shadab Khan, every bowler in Pakistan is giving lots of runs today. However, Pakistan has no chance of winning today's match. If England wins today, the series will be tied at 3-3. The final match will decide which team will win the series.
yeah, I am really surprised to see this run chase from England. It looks like they tried to prove a point. They have won the match with ease and it is sad to say but this was a one-sided match. England won the match with 33 balls and 8 wickets in hand. The series is now tied 3-3 and the next match is going to be the decider. Today every Pakistani bowler gave away a lot of runs. Even Shadab Khan took the only two wickets that could have been picked up by Pakistan, but his economy was also not very good in my opinion.
I am feeling there is no surprise in this because as we all know around 16 or 17 English players are involved in PSL, so they understand better conditions and have good experience of playing in these both cities Karachi and Lahore which is having big impact on their batting even many were feeling about this series is going to be one-sided.

But, English players are doing amazing job and now with the last match results now I have feeling most chances they can win this series with the score of 4 - 3 because their batting line-up is on good touch and Salt, Brook and Hales are doing good job for their team in last match while they were doing batting I have feeling if they play first then surely they were able to score around 230 to 240 because it is amazing hitting from Salt and company.

Hero of fifth match debutant Jamal were badly treated in his second match and have 20 runs from his first over and all other bowlers were also badly treated in absence of Haris Rauf and Naseem Shah now hopefully we will have last match full of entertainment as after this both teams will be felt good for their preparation which is happening for World cup which is going to start after sixteen days in Australia.
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Not a big fan of Siraj. IMO, he benefitted immensely from the fact that he is playing for the RCB, at least during the starting years. Siraj has been given a lot of opportunities so far, and he hasn't made use of them in an effective way. I would rather prefer someone like Thangarasu Natarajan, who has an excellent record in Australia (where the T20 world cup is being played). There are a few other options as well, such as Mohsin Khan, Mukesh Choudhary and Kuldip Yadav (not talking about Kuldeep Yadav). And I wouldn't prefer Khaleel, Umran or Avesh, since they have received enough chances till now.
Absolutely true. Siraj has goot way more opportunities than any other bowler like Natrajan, Thakur or even harshal Patel. But at this point I think Directly bringing Shami as replacement of Bumrah made more sense instead of Siraj, but i have heard there was some Covid probability with Shami which was why he didn't play. I feel that no matter how much we guys debate, eventually favouritism is playing a big role in selections.
I doubt if Siraj could make it into WC playing XI as Bhuvi, Harshal, Arshdeep and Chahar are frontrunners but at the same time majority of them are swing bowlers except for Harshal so in a way Siraj

inclusion as backup makes sense to me because you need variety in your squad. He does both seam and swing, mostly in Test tho.

Gate collection hardly adds to anything when full capacity of stadiums are below 50K spectators, ticket pricing is another factor. I guess security etc takes a really big cut, makes sense when you are hiring 1000's of elite security personnel for a month or so and blocking a block or 2 every now n then where a team is staying or traveling.

They can't have it both ways. They were not happy with the matches being hosted in the United Arab Emirates, because the argument was that all the revenue was being directed to the Emirates Cricket Board (ECB). Now when big-3 teams are finally agreeing to tour Pakistan to play their matches, again they are arguing that it is also a loss making proposition. Security needs to be stepped up, given the recent incidents targeting cricketing teams from other countries. I don't think any cost-cutting can be made on this sector. 
Karachi, Pindi, and Lahore are pretty much safe places for anything but the problem is PCB can't take any risk and visiting teams demand an extra layer of security as it gives everyone a sense of security. This could potentially pay dividends in future tours.

I believe this is for SENA countries only, I didn't notice this level of security for Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

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I am very surprised to see the batting of England's batsmen. The final match will decide which team will win the series.
England decimated Pakistan as expected. Honestly, England lost recent matches because of their own stupidity and Pakistan got really lucky towards the end. Their luck clearly ran out in this match though.

I feel that England will end up winning the final match too since Pakistan is over-dependent on their top order which won't get resolved anytime soon.

I agree with you. England lost the last match because of their own mistakes. They could not win even after batting for a target of 147 runs. Because the performance of England's top order players was not good. Pakistan relies more on their top-order players. But if you want to play well in the T20 format, the top-order players must perform well. It is very difficult to win matches if the top order does not play well. Pakistan bowler's performance was very bad yesterday. Pakistan's bowling lineup is very strong. However, Pakistan's bowlers felt helpless against England's batsmen yesterday. I think the last match will be more competitive.
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I watched today's match completely, I am totally disappointed, I thought Pakistan can do better, Pakistan's batting was very good, but Pakistan's bowlers bowled very badly. It is really a shame for Pakistan. England batsmen were able to play the Pakistani bowlers very easily, they had no confusion to play the Pakistani bowlers. England batsmen played well. England played very well so England deserved to win today's match England batsmen gave a very good performance, Pakistan scored 169 for 6 in 20 overs and set England a target of 170 runs. England achieved the target by two wickets in 16 overs.

I would not say that Pakistan's batsmen performed very well. Babar Azam was unbeaten on 87 runs. Besides, Iftikhar Ahmed scored 31 runs. Moreover, none of Pakistan's batsmen could play well. Pakistan could have easily collected 185-190. The pitch was not bowling-friendly.
The performance of Pakshikhani bowlers was very bad. England's two openers had more than 200 strikes on the night. Phil Salt scored 88 runs off 41 balls. Pakistani bowlers gave 50 runs in the first 3 overs. After 3 overs it was pretty clear that Pakistan was going to lose the match.
However the seven match series had turned more interesting with the win of England. Yeah, the team is dependent on few players and their fail completely stops the scoring of the team. From the bowling end, one who bowled well weren't able to keep the form. Dahani and Jamal had a whooping economy of 16.5 and 15 runs per over which needs to be lowered.
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