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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 30, 2022, 01:17:45 PM

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Pakistan vs England, 6th T20I
It is not yet known which team will win this match. I think if Pakistan can keep England's batting under pressure then this match will be in Pakistan's hands. And if Pakistan's bowling bowls badly then they will win this match. It will be difficult. Today Pakistan's batting batted very well. Now let's see how the bowling is.

Pakistan bowled very poorly in this match and this is the reason England are scoring over 13 runs per over by the end of 10 overs.
Other than Shadab Khan, every Pakistan batsmen's economy rate is over 15 runs per over which is indeed too high. I don't think Pakistan can win this match today and this will make the last T20 match to be the decider of the series.

I think Pakistan batted well in this match. But Pakistan's bowling was very poor. I think Pakistan's bowling is responsible for losing this match. But I never imagined Pakistan's bowling to be so bad. But this match was very good in the beginning, then the match completely went to England players.

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Quote from: impulse709 on September 30, 2022, 03:16:13 PM

I watched today's match completely, I am totally disappointed, I thought Pakistan can do better, Pakistan's batting was very good, but Pakistan's bowlers bowled very badly. It is really a shame for Pakistan. England batsmen were able to play the Pakistani bowlers very easily, they had no confusion to play the Pakistani bowlers. England batsmen played well. England played very well so England deserved to win today's match England batsmen gave a very good performance, Pakistan scored 169 for 6 in 20 overs and set England a target of 170 runs. England achieved the target by two wickets in 16 overs.

I would not say that Pakistan's batsmen performed very well. Babar Azam was unbeaten on 87 runs. Besides, Iftikhar Ahmed scored 31 runs. Moreover, none of Pakistan's batsmen could play well. Pakistan could have easily collected 185-190. The pitch was not bowling-friendly.
The performance of Pakshikhani bowlers was very bad. England's two openers had more than 200 strikes on the night. Phil Salt scored 88 runs off 41 balls. Pakistani bowlers gave 50 runs in the first 3 overs. After 3 overs it was pretty clear that Pakistan was going to lose the match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 30, 2022, 01:26:38 PM

Gate collection hardly adds to anything when full capacity of stadiums are below 50K spectators, ticket pricing is another factor. I guess security etc takes a really big cut, makes sense when you are hiring 1000's of elite security personnel for a month or so and blocking a block or 2 every now n then where a team is staying or traveling.

They can't have it both ways. They were not happy with the matches being hosted in the United Arab Emirates, because the argument was that all the revenue was being directed to the Emirates Cricket Board (ECB). Now when big-3 teams are finally agreeing to tour Pakistan to play their matches, again they are arguing that it is also a loss making proposition. Security needs to be stepped up, given the recent incidents targeting cricketing teams from other countries. I don't think any cost-cutting can be made on this sector.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 30, 2022, 07:26:43 PM

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I watched today's match completely, I am totally disappointed, I thought Pakistan can do better, Pakistan's batting was very good, but Pakistan's bowlers bowled very badly. It is really a shame for Pakistan. England batsmen were able to play the Pakistani bowlers very easily, they had no confusion to play the Pakistani bowlers. England batsmen played well. England played very well so England deserved to win today's match England batsmen gave a very good performance, Pakistan scored 169 for 6 in 20 overs and set England a target of 170 runs. England achieved the target by two wickets in 16 overs.

Pakistan's team lack consistency in their game. Sometimes they play very well, while at other times they just give a poor show. In the last match, they bowled so well and defended a 147 runs target but in this match, their bowlers didn't know the line and length to bowl.

We have seen for a long time that there is no consistency in the performance of the Pakistan team. Their batting performance depends on 2/3 batsmen. And while their bowlers are talented, they cannot perform consistently well. Despite scoring only 146 runs in the previous match, Pakistan won only on the brilliant performance of the bowlers. But today they lost badly even after giving a target of 170 runs. England team reached the target of victory in just 14.3 overs.

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Quote from: impulse709 on September 30, 2022, 03:16:13 PM

I watched today's match completely, I am totally disappointed, I thought Pakistan can do better, Pakistan's batting was very good, but Pakistan's bowlers bowled very badly. It is really a shame for Pakistan. England batsmen were able to play the Pakistani bowlers very easily, they had no confusion to play the Pakistani bowlers. England batsmen played well. England played very well so England deserved to win today's match England batsmen gave a very good performance, Pakistan scored 169 for 6 in 20 overs and set England a target of 170 runs. England achieved the target by two wickets in 16 overs.

Pakistan's team lack consistency in their game. Sometimes they play very well, while at other times they just give a poor show. In the last match, they bowled so well and defended a 147 runs target but in this match, their bowlers didn't know the line and length to bowl.

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Quote from: Haunebu on September 30, 2022, 03:13:06 PM

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England decimated Pakistan as expected. Honestly, England lost recent matches because of their own stupidity and Pakistan got really lucky towards the end. Their luck clearly ran out in this match though.

It was hard to predict to be frank as England were inconsistent throughout this tournament. In the first match they chased the total and in the 4th and 5th match they struggled to chase the score and lost by a small margin and hence i had no idea how they will perform in this match.

Quote from: Haunebu on September 30, 2022, 03:13:06 PM

I feel that England will end up winning the final match too since Pakistan is over-dependent on their top order which won't get resolved anytime soon.

Pakistan top order is in form and they are giving them a start for a while but they need someone to increase the run rate in the final overs.

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I watched today's match completely, I am totally disappointed, I thought Pakistan can do better, Pakistan's batting was very good, but Pakistan's bowlers bowled very badly. It is really a shame for Pakistan. England batsmen were able to play the Pakistani bowlers very easily, they had no confusion to play the Pakistani bowlers. England batsmen played well. England played very well so England deserved to win today's match England batsmen gave a very good performance, Pakistan scored 169 for 6 in 20 overs and set England a target of 170 runs. England achieved the target by two wickets in 16 overs.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 30, 2022, 01:17:45 PM

Pakistan bowled very poorly in this match and this is the reason England are scoring over 13 runs per over by the end of 10 overs.
Other than Shadab Khan, every Pakistan ~~batsmen's~~ economy rate is over 15 runs per over which is indeed too high. I don't think Pakistan can win this match today and this will make the last T20 match to be the decider of the series.

Philip Salt has played an extraordinary innings today. I wouldn't say that Pakistan bowlers have performed badly. It was just a lucky day for Philip Salt. He just hit the bowl and found the gap.
Maybe you made a little mistake in your post. The economy rate of every Pakistani bowler, not batsmen's.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 30, 2022, 01:28:36 PM

I am very surprised to see the batting of England's batsmen. The final match will decide which team will win the series.

England decimated Pakistan as expected. Honestly, England lost recent matches because of their own stupidity and Pakistan got really lucky towards the end. Their luck clearly ran out in this match though.

I feel that England will end up winning the final match too since Pakistan is over-dependent on their top order which won't get resolved anytime soon.

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It seems like the team doesn't want to end up more players getting injured. Maybe thats the reason why Siraj is given opportunity for the last two T20's. Based on the performance after few months of gap might get him shortlisted for the World Cup squad in the place of Bumrah.

Not a big fan of Siraj. IMO, he benefitted immensely from the fact that he is playing for the RCB, at least during the starting years. Siraj has been given a lot of opportunities so far, and he hasn't made use of them in an effective way. I would rather prefer someone like Thangarasu Natarajan, who has an excellent record in Australia (where the T20 world cup is being played). There are a few other options as well, such as Mohsin Khan, Mukesh Choudhary and Kuldip Yadav (not talking about Kuldeep Yadav). And I wouldn't prefer Khaleel, Umran or Avesh, since they have received enough chances till now.

Absolutely true. Siraj has goot way more opportunities than any other bowler like Natrajan, Thakur or even harshal Patel. But at this point I think Directly bringing Shami as replacement of Bumrah made more sense instead of Siraj, but i have heard there was some Covid probability with Shami which was why he didn't play. I feel that no matter how much we guys debate, eventually favouritism is playing a big role in selections.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 30, 2022, 01:28:36 PM

I am very surprised to see the batting of England's batsmen. They are batting for 170 runs. At the end of 10 overs, England collected 129 runs. They lost only two wickets. Opener Phil Salt scored 74 runs off 28 balls. He scored a fifty off 19 balls. England has found some great batsmen. I think England will win the next World Cup if these batsmen are in form.
Apart from Shadab Khan, every bowler in Pakistan is giving lots of runs today. However, Pakistan has no chance of winning today's match. If England wins today, the series will be tied at 3-3. The final match will decide which team will win the series.

yeah, I am really surprised to see this run chase from England. It looks like they tried to prove a point. They have won the match with ease and it is sad to say but this was a one-sided match. England won the match with 33 balls and 8 wickets in hand. The series is now tied 3-3 and the next match is going to be the decider. Today every Pakistani bowler gave away a lot of runs. Even Shadab Khan took the only two wickets that could have been picked up by Pakistan, but his economy was also not very good in my opinion.

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I am very surprised to see the batting of England's batsmen. They are batting for 170 runs. At the end of 10 overs, England collected 129 runs. They lost only two wickets. Opener Phil Salt scored 74 runs off 28 balls. He scored a fifty off 19 balls. England has found some great batsmen. I think England will win the next World Cup if these batsmen are in form.
Apart from Shadab Khan, every bowler in Pakistan is giving lots of runs today. However, Pakistan has no chance of winning today's match. If England wins today, the series will be tied at 3-3. The final match will decide which team will win the series.

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Why this Pakistan vs England series still going on?

I was under the impression that Pakistan already won the series as they were leading 3-2. Is there any specific reason this series is 7 matches long? Last I heard from the Rambo or PCB they were losing a couple of million every match they were hosting.

I don't understand how they will lose money by hosting matches. Even if the gate-collection is used for security and logistics, the broadcasting revenue should be significant, given the large market in England. And I heard that there was huge interest within Pakistan, since England was touring the country after such a huge gap. All that said, Pakistan bowlers are getting butchered right now. England has made 128/1 from just 9.2 overs, with Phil Salt batting at 74 from just 27 balls (12 boundaries and 3 sixes so far).

Gate collection hardly adds to anything when full capacity of stadiums are below 50K spectators, ticket pricing is another factor. I guess security etc takes a really big cut, makes sense when you are hiring 1000's of elite security personnel for a month or so and blocking a block or 2 every now n then where a team is staying or traveling.

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Pakistan vs England, 6th T20I
It is not yet known which team will win this match. I think if Pakistan can keep England's batting under pressure then this match will be in Pakistan's hands. And if Pakistan's bowling bowls badly then they will win this match. It will be difficult. Today Pakistan's batting batted very well. Now let's see how the bowling is.

Pakistan bowled very poorly in this match and this is the reason England are scoring over 13 runs per over by the end of 10 overs.
Other than Shadab Khan, every Pakistan batsmen's economy rate is over 15 runs per over which is indeed too high. I don't think Pakistan can win this match today and this will make the last T20 match to be the decider of the series.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 30, 2022, 01:09:47 PM

Why this Pakistan vs England series still going on?

I was under the impression that Pakistan already won the series as they were leading 3-2. Is there any specific reason this series is 7 matches long? Last I heard from the Rambo or PCB they were losing a couple of million every match they were hosting.

I don't understand how they will lose money by hosting matches. Even if the gate-collection is used for security and logistics, the broadcasting revenue should be significant, given the large market in England. And I heard that there was huge interest within Pakistan, since England was touring the country after such a huge gap. All that said, Pakistan bowlers are getting butchered right now. England has made 128/1 from just 9.2 overs, with Phil Salt batting at 74 from just 27 balls (12 boundaries and 3 sixes so far).

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Why this Pakistan vs England series still going on?

I was under the impression that Pakistan already won the series as they were leading 3-2. Is there any specific reason this series is 7 matches long? Last I heard from the Rambo or PCB they were losing a couple of million every match they were hosting.

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Quote from: Yurkov on September 30, 2022, 12:05:03 PM

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I have already bet for Pakistan, I think if Babar Azam can hold on and play the whole match then maybe Pakistan will win.
Already 48 runs from babar azam bat in 13 overs, baba azam has played bad in other matches but in this match babar azam is playing great so far and iftekhar ahmed is batting with lot of responsibility i am sitting with anticipation to see the result of the game what will happen in the end

What I understood by looking at the condition of Pakistan's batting. If Babar Azam had not lasted so long, Pakistan would have scored less runs. However, England will want to win today's match to level the game. But if England lose today they will lose their chance to win the series and Pakistan will win the series. Now the biggest responsibility is on the England batsmen, it is possible to win the match only by displaying their skills.

What a brilliant knock by Babar Azam! Pakistan managed to set a target of 170 runs. Pakistan collected 56 runs in the last 5 overs. Babar Azam was unbeaten on 87 off 59 balls. If Asif Ali could have prolonged his partnership with Babar Azam, Pakistan could have collected 10/15 runs more. A target of 170 runs is enough to win if Pakistan's bowlers perform well. The performance of Pakshikhani bowlers in the first match was excellent.
Due to the good performance of the bowlers, they won by giving the target only 146 runs. The result of the match will depend on the performance of the bowlers in today's match as well.

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Quote from: impulse709 on September 30, 2022, 11:55:07 AM

I have already bet for Pakistan, I think if Babar Azam can hold on and play the whole match then maybe Pakistan will win.
Already 48 runs from babar azam bat in 13 overs, baba azam has played bad in other matches but in this match babar azam is playing great so far and iftekhar ahmed is batting with lot of responsibility i am sitting with anticipation to see the result of the game what will happen in the end

What I understood by looking at the condition of Pakistan's batting. If Babar Azam had not lasted so long, Pakistan would have scored less runs. However, England will want to win today's match to level the game. But if England lose today they will lose their chance to win the series and Pakistan will win the series. Now the biggest responsibility is on the England batsmen, it is possible to win the match only by displaying their skills.

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Pakistan did win the last match but if you look at the odds just 5 minutes before the match, it is England who are favorites for the match or rather gambling houses think that England has a better chance of winning the match.
Maybe it is because England has won the toss and elected to field Huh

Maybe because Rizwan is not playing today's match but if Babar Azam gets going, no one can stop Pakistan's run machine.
I don't know if we should trust these odds or give the many weightage as i don't see that the team with more odds loses more than the team with lower odds.
Better to place the bet after the match starts so that you are a bit more sure where the match is heading however this sometimes will give you less profit.

As Mohammad Rizwan is not in the squad today, Babar Azam will have to play well. Because the result of the Pakistan match mainly depends on the performance of these two batsmen. Babar Azam is batting responsibly in today's match.
Despite losing two wickets for 15 runs, Pakistan is now in a good position due to Babar Azam's responsible batting. Pakistan collected 113 runs in 15 overs. Babar and Asif Ali are now at the crease. If Pakistan can deliver a target of 170 today, the match will be in their control. If Babar and Asif are at the crease, Pakistan will be able to give a target of more than 170.

Yes, Mohammad Rizwan would have made the match more dependable. But today Baba Azam's responsible batting performance may be able to take Pakistan to the winning target. But it is not possible to guarantee as it is T20 cricket. Even if Pakistan scores maximum runs, it cannot be said who will actually win or lose. But depending on the overall performance, Pakistan will be ahead.

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I have already bet for Pakistan, I think if Babar Azam can hold on and play the whole match then maybe Pakistan will win.
Already 48 runs from babar azam bat in 13 overs, baba azam has played bad in other matches but in this match babar azam is playing great so far and iftekhar ahmed is batting with lot of responsibility i am sitting with anticipation to see the result of the game what will happen in the end

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