[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos - page 13.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 20, 2022, 03:04:25 AM

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When Neodice approached me with a request to launch a sig'campaign, clarifying the situation in this matter was one of my conditions.

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Hey all! From today we have updated the support team here on the forum!

I would also like to draw the attention of the public to the fact that the previous manager was little aware of the rules of the forum and was not entirely competent, so he made several reservations and mistakes. For license issues, we only refer to the Curacao license (although working on getting a Maltese license as well). Nevertheless, speaking of UK license, it meant that we in the UK have passed the certification of our RNG algorithm.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 19, 2022, 08:17:54 AM

Are you going to add Neodice @Pmalek?

I am not sure I want to. Not for now at least. I think they started off on the wrong foot here. I remember when they created their ANN thread. They wrongly advertised their casino as holding a UK gambling license. I made them aware of that here. Some time later, this claim was removed from the title of their ANN thread, but it remained in the profile page of their forum representative. I mentioned it to them again and they removed it.

They never explained why they made false claims and silently removed the information after it was pointed out. They never issued an apology or anything like that.
Does that make them scammers and untrustworthy? No.
Did they lie? Yes
If they lied about this is there a possibility they will do other shady things? Maybe. It's hard to say.

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Are you going to add Neodice @Pmalek?
It is still a new site indeed (launched few months back) but I think they are good enough at least till now.
The information about withdrawal fee and min withdrawal can be found in their FAQ page.
Let me quote it here:

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These are minimum cash-out amounts:

BTC: 0.0004 BTC with 0.0002 BTC fee

Supported altcoins: LTC, BCH, ETH, DOGE.

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In the first post, OP also gives the data in the following form:
Casinos that charge the lowest withdrawal fees:
Casinos that charge the highest withdrawal fees:
Casinos that have the lowest withdrawal amounts:
Casinos that have the highest minimum withdrawal amounts.
This is very useful information for quickly studying what is happening in general in the matter of withdrawing funds from the casino to your account and what problems a player may encounter. I really want the OP to quickly correct these lists as well.
I understand that this is quite laborious, but it is worth it for BTT users to have up-to-date information.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 04, 2022, 02:50:32 AM

Quote from: fathafraink on October 03, 2022, 11:35:55 AM

I hope there will be further updates, especially to the withdrawal fees section for other supported altcoins. Of course it will also be very useful for many owners of these coins (alt-coin owners)

If you are asking about displaying withdrawal fee information for altcoins as well, that is not something I am planning to do. Some casinos support 10 or more altcoins. Keeping track of all that info is time consuming, and I don't see a good way to include all those numbers in the OP and still making it look presentable and pleasant to the eye.

Right it would be time consuming for you to add altcoin fees also and think would not look good in the presentable format here so it's just fine.Moreover the main coin is btc accepted on all casinos and most of the calculation are based on it only and adding altcoin also don't make any much of use as updating it would take lot of time and efforts.So the current format is fine for us to gain knowledge.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 04, 2022, 02:50:32 AM

Quote from: fathafraink on October 03, 2022, 11:35:55 AM

I hope there will be further updates, especially to the withdrawal fees section for other supported altcoins. Of course it will also be very useful for many owners of these coins (alt-coin owners)

If you are asking about displaying withdrawal fee information for altcoins as well, that is not something I am planning to do. Some casinos support 10 or more altcoins. Keeping track of all that info is time consuming, and I don't see a good way to include all those numbers in the OP and still making it look presentable and pleasant to the eye.

And it is correct that OP is not going to deal in detail with the withdrawal fees for each altcoin in those casinos that use a lot of altcoins.
The data provided by OP, for which we are grateful to him, provides excellent information about the range of commissions a particular casino operates within.
And about the commission for the withdrawal of which particular altcoin, the user himself can guess or even learn in practice.
In any case, the OP's spreadsheet is very useful and I hope the OP will keep it up to date.

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Quote from: fathafraink on October 03, 2022, 11:35:55 AM

I hope there will be further updates, especially to the withdrawal fees section for other supported altcoins. Of course it will also be very useful for many owners of these coins (alt-coin owners)

If you are asking about displaying withdrawal fee information for altcoins as well, that is not something I am planning to do. Some casinos support 10 or more altcoins. Keeping track of all that info is time consuming, and I don't see a good way to include all those numbers in the OP and still making it look presentable and pleasant to the eye.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 27, 2021, 02:03:10 PM

Several elements make up the perfect crypto casino. Having low withdrawal amounts and preferably no transaction fees are two crucial features. In this thread, I have made a table showing the minimum bitcoin withdrawal amounts on popular crypto casinos and how much they charge their players for bitcoin withdrawals.

Good information for many viewers. I hope there will be further updates, especially to the withdrawal fees section for other supported altcoins. Of course it will also be very useful for many owners of these coins (alt-coin owners)

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Quote from: famososMuertos on October 02, 2022, 12:44:49 PM

I saw that you do not have any feedback on the casinos that you remove from your OP table, obviously it is not necessary, but at least you could post something like a list of the casinos that "out" and/or were removed, believe me it would be of great help.

I do mention when new casinos are added or removed from the list with a new reply in the topic. But I made a mistake with Wintomato. I told you that Wintomato was initially part of this thread. Turns out, it never was. Here is an achieve from August 2021 and Wintomato wasn't there.

After doublechecking, Wintomato was part of my other thread - List Of Crypto Casinos with The Best Faucets.

Here is the correct timeline:
* The casino was added in July 2021.

Quote from: Pmalek on July 07, 2021, 04:11:00 AM

I have added several new crypto casinos in the table in OP. The added sites are, WinTomato, Casino Royale, Betja, BCH.games, BC.Game, Rocket.Run, and Bitsler.

* Wintomato was removed in February 2022.

Quote from: Pmalek on February 24, 2022, 01:43:55 PM

Update:
Wintomato has been removed from the table!
There has been a valid scam accusation against this platform since February 03, 2022 and they have failed to provide any information to the community as to why they confiscated $20 worth of DOGE from one user.

A warning to those thinking of playing at Wintomato. Read this scam accusation first.
I asked them twice to share their side of the story here and here. Their forum admin was online two days ago and there is still no response regarding this issue.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 02, 2022, 02:50:11 AM

Quote from: famososMuertos on October 01, 2022, 05:47:34 PM

Wintomato used to be part of the table, but I removed them since they destroyed their reputation for pocket change. At least in my eyes they did. I think it was something silly like $15 worth of Doge at the time. They waited 2 months to address a player's issue regarding confiscated funds pretending they didn't see the complaint because they were to busy with their website. I mentioned it to them twice when I saw them posting updates in their ANN thread. Of course, they didn't see that either.

Thanks for the warning, in fact I mentioned it in my post, OP is a lookup table not only to know the fees, anyway I saw the casino on the review website that by the way appears in your OP (BTCGOSU)that I follow, then of course I checked the ANN and I saw the trust of the nick, I did not see a negative value, do not check it by clicking, the reason is that it displays zero, then I went through your OP and I noticed that it was not there, that's why then come back here to collaborate in the revision process for your OP, then serve these comments as additional signals, take your precautions and serve this feedback so that you are always alert.

I saw that you do not have any feedback on the casinos that you remove from your OP table, obviously it is not necessary, but at least you could post something like a list of the casinos that "out" and/or were removed, believe me it would be of great help.
^{Finally,Please! remember that we must always Having our own judgment and decision, we must always review and be exhaustive by our own searches.}

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Quote from: famososMuertos on October 01, 2022, 05:47:34 PM

Wintomato used to be part of the table, but I removed them since they destroyed their reputation for pocket change. At least in my eyes they did. I think it was something silly like $15 worth of Doge at the time. They waited 2 months to address a player's issue regarding confiscated funds pretending they didn't see the complaint because they were to busy with their website. I mentioned it to them twice when I saw them posting updates in their ANN thread. Of course, they didn't see that either.

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I just used a promotion from Wintomato, without problems by the way, all ok, but I was going to do it with BTC for the deposit, but it turns out that its fee is 0.0004 BTC (min withdraw amount 15$) which is quite high, given the conditions of the mempool, in fact I think that If I had done it there, the winnings for the free spins were about $15, which would be really bad for someone who does not review, which is the great utility of their OP, now I double check, I review your OP and then the casino

in that sense I can confirm that winz maintains its fee 0 + the bitcoin network fee (It is another casino from which I have taken one of their promotions).

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I think that it is extremely difficult to keep track of what commissions for withdrawing funds in cryptocurrency, for the reason that commissions are constantly changing in different blockchains and casinos have to take this into account as well. In addition, it is clear that the withdrawal of cryptocurrencies from user deposits in this casino cannot lead to losses of the casino itself. All this entails a constant change in commissions both in networks and also commissions set by the casino devs themselves. Therefore, updating these tables of commissions for different casinos is extremely difficult and often we may encounter inaccurate information in these tables.
But all the same, such tables are needed at least just to roughly represent the big picture.

And for this, my special sincere thanks to the respected OP!

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 22, 2022, 08:29:46 AM

Quote from: FatFork on September 22, 2022, 08:04:17 AM

Gianluca95 is the campaign manager for YAS.BET casino. He is also their support representative in the bitcointalk community. You can try contacting him for more detailed information.

That's good to know. I guess they are aware that there is a language barrier and Gianluca95 could help in situations where their team can't. I have made a post in their announcement thread, so maybe Gianluca95 will see it and reply with some official information.

The team should understand now.

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Quote from: FatFork on September 22, 2022, 08:04:17 AM

Gianluca95 is the campaign manager for YAS.BET casino. He is also their support representative in the bitcointalk community. You can try contacting him for more detailed information.

That's good to know. I guess they are aware that there is a language barrier and Gianluca95 could help in situations where their team can't. I have made a post in their announcement thread, so maybe Gianluca95 will see it and reply with some official information.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 22, 2022, 03:37:00 AM

- I also wanted to include information about YAS.BET, but their site doesn't mention anything about BTC withdrawal fees. Minimum withdrawal is apparently equivalent to $5. I got in contact with their live support and the person doesn't understand a word of English. Unbelievable. I will try to find the correct into from their ANN thread.

It's disappointing to see an online casino fail to provide their customers with satisfactory customer support. Not only does this undermine the initial trust players have in a casino, but it is also likely to cause even more problems in the future. It's just a matter of time before these disgruntled customers spread the word about their experience and it will likely have a negative impact on the casino's reputation.

Gianluca95 is the campaign manager for YAS.BET casino. He is also their support representative in the bitcointalk community. You can try contacting him for more detailed information.

Quote from: YASBET on August 30, 2022, 10:22:46 AM

We would like to announce that Gianluca95 will give an help to us here with the management of this thread and to give a direct support for the entire community.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 17, 2022, 03:06:41 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 17, 2022, 02:26:50 PM

That's quite surprising! The withdrawal fee was around 0.00017 BTC in the morning of yesterday. It was around 0.00022 BTC when I made the post yesterday. The fee had reached to 0.00027 BTC a few hours ago. But the fee become 0.0002 BTC again when you went to check it. I can see that the fee has become 0.000172 BTC now (screenshot).

They seem to be changing it often. The amounts are lower than what we saw with Cloudbet for example, but still more than what people would need to pay for a quick confirmation. The mempools are empty right now. But their thinking here is similar to that of centralized exchanges. They would rather have you overpay than getting a bunch of support tickets asking why the withdrawal process is so slow.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 17, 2022, 02:26:50 PM

I tried to get more details about the Bitcoin withdrawal fee from their live support, but the live support agent has no valid information about it. He said "Yes sir, every coin has fixed its withdrawal fee.".

Some of these casinos employ support staff that have very little knowledge about anything. We are at a point where you have to doublecheck everything they say.

Now in the bear market, there is actually very little activity among the owners of cryptocurrencies. And transaction fees are now small, but fluctuate slightly within small limits. But we all know that as soon as the bullish cycle in cryptocurrencies begins, which, as experience shows, will come sooner or later, the issue of the commission will become relevant.

By the way, then everyone will start to remember the possibilities of bitcoin payments through the Lightning Network. And all users will remember the need to integrate LN into crypto-casino payment systems.
So for the time being, I think there is nothing to worry about as long as the commissions are small.

And if the crypto-casino itself makes large commissions for the withdrawal of bitcoin, then this means that they are simply insane and mock their players. But I do not think that they will achieve the respect of the players with such a primitive method of additional income. Rather, they will lose more in their reputation

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Update:

- DuckDice.io has now been added to the table in OP.
- I also wanted to include information about YAS.BET, but their site doesn't mention anything about BTC withdrawal fees. Minimum withdrawal is apparently equivalent to $5. I got in contact with their live support and the person doesn't understand a word of English. Unbelievable. I will try to find the correct into from their ANN thread.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 17, 2022, 02:26:50 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on September 17, 2022, 01:12:48 PM

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That's quite surprising! The withdrawal fee was around 0.00017 BTC in the morning of yesterday. It was around 0.00022 BTC when I made the post yesterday. The fee had reached to 0.00027 BTC a few hours ago. But the fee become 0.0002 BTC again when you went to check it. I can see that the fee has become 0.000172 BTC now.

There is an algorithm which monitors the level of congestion on the bitcoin network and adjusts the transaction fee accordingly so that withdrawals doesn't end up staying hours or days before getting a confirmation.
I guess they have this algorithm setup and its what is adjusting the transaction fees based on the state of the Bitcoin's network.

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I have seen only 0.000012 BTC withdrawal fee there a few months ago.

This is the period or time when the Bitcoin network had a slightly less activity and the network was less congested, so transaction fees in those periods were cheaper than this current time.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 17, 2022, 02:26:50 PM

That's quite surprising! The withdrawal fee was around 0.00017 BTC in the morning of yesterday. It was around 0.00022 BTC when I made the post yesterday. The fee had reached to 0.00027 BTC a few hours ago. But the fee become 0.0002 BTC again when you went to check it. I can see that the fee has become 0.000172 BTC now (screenshot).

They seem to be changing it often. The amounts are lower than what we saw with Cloudbet for example, but still more than what people would need to pay for a quick confirmation. The mempools are empty right now. But their thinking here is similar to that of centralized exchanges. They would rather have you overpay than getting a bunch of support tickets asking why the withdrawal process is so slow.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on September 17, 2022, 02:26:50 PM

I tried to get more details about the Bitcoin withdrawal fee from their live support, but the live support agent has no valid information about it. He said "Yes sir, every coin has fixed its withdrawal fee.".

Some of these casinos employ support staff that have very little knowledge about anything. We are at a point where you have to doublecheck everything they say.

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