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Topic: [Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos - page 8. (Read 12234 times)

hero member
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Not to shit on anyone's favorite casinos but why the heck is FortuneJack demanding users to withdraw at least 150 bucks? What about the signature campaign members? I've heard good things about them and for one they have one of the longest running campaigns in this forum but that seriously concerned me lol cause they issue the highest minimum withdrawal limits out of every gambling site out there. That's 3+ weeks of signature campaign salaries already lol. At the very least it's good that they don't issue withdrawal fees but between the industry standard of at least 2 bucks it's not really that much.

Thanks for the list OP, opened my eyes a bit on some casinos out there especially with how they issue withdrawals and stuff.
legendary
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Excellent suggestion, and the entries look cleaner now after I tested it out. I will enter the sub command for all casinos soon.
I can see that you have used sub command for all of the casinos, the table is indeed looking better than before. BTW, you used wrong withdrawal amount image command for Crashino. Their minimum withdrawal amount is equivalent to 50 USD now. But you have used the exchange command of €15. Is there any reason to use comma (,) between the USD/EURO withdrawal amount and approximately symbol?
Why have you still kept Betnomi on the list? I have created a scam accusation against Betnomi by describing the recent and old issues of them.
legendary
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Thank you bitmover for quick fix Smiley
It works great now for me and I think everything is loading slightly faster, but maybe it can help if images are loaded gradually when we scroll down.
Something similar is used on websites to make them load faster when there are many images in homepage, but I don't know how to do that in forum.

This would be a forum technology feature. A framework like react or nextjs should do it. But this forum uses old tech,  and may api can't do anything about it... it will load one by one. Like any other post.
legendary
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I believe to have solved the problem.

I cached the price in a local file in my server, and we are not getting blocked by external API now.
Thank you bitmover for quick fix Smiley
It works great now for me and I think everything is loading slightly faster, but maybe it can help if images are loaded gradually when we scroll down.
Something similar is used on websites to make them load faster when there are many images in homepage, but I don't know how to do that in forum.



legendary
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OP should use 'approximately' instead of currently. Because different casinos use different resources to calculate the price of BTC. And casino doesn't update the minimum withdrawal amount instantly for the price change of BTC. Therefore, the minimum withdrawal amounts aren't going to match exactly with bitcoindata.science price calculation system.
I agree with the suggestion. I just checked the info on FortuneJack. The current minimum withdrawal amount is 0.005 BTC, while the api spits out 0.00494xxx. But the small different doesn't matter, especially when it says approximately. Instead of the word, I will just use the ≈ symbol to save room.

Or you may use the sub command for the image.
Excellent suggestion, and the entries look cleaner now after I tested it out. I will enter the sub command for all casinos soon.

This is the best thread so far and I am not sure if Op has already thought about this but they should add a system that will fetch the current ongoing promotions from the gambling sites. It shall also be able to show in one column regarding the promo codes as soon as they get available on social media.
That's above my abilities. And I don't know if something like that could be automated. On top of that, any other columns would make the table look bad. If you have a small screen on your desktop device, it's already pretty cluttered. You would have to zoom out with your mouse to make it look decent. 

Do you think something like adding promos and live statuses about the active codes is possible? I don't know, but the space of entire page will be the issue in that case.
Sorry, I don't have any plans to do that.
hero member
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This is the best thread so far and I am not sure if Op has already thought about this but they should add a system that will fetch the current ongoing promotions from the gambling sites. It shall also be able to show in one column regarding the promo codes as soon as they get available on social media.

Wow, imagine the fun after adding such features. I respect your work and the efforts that you have put into this as it seems complicated to make that table, arrange it in sequence, adding the code for live Bitcoin price, I know the pain because I have myself added a few tutorials in the beginner's sections, it's hard.

Do you think something like adding promos and live statuses about the active codes is possible? I don't know, but the space of entire page will be the issue in that case.
legendary
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Or you  may use the sub command for the image.

$150, currently

I liked this idea.

The problem is that the forum automatically adds some padding to the bottom of the image. The bottom border is nearly zero already. sub solved it!
legendary
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I also have a small suggestion for some casinos:
$150,  currently
OP should use 'approximately' instead of currently. Because different casinos use different resources to calculate the price of BTC. And casino doesn't update the minimum withdrawal amount instantly for the price change of BTC. Therefore, the minimum withdrawal amounts aren't going to match exactly with bitcoindata.science price calculation system.

Is there a way to lower the image entry and bring it in line with the text? If you look at the result, you will see that the BTC amount is slightly higher up than the word 'currently'.
I'm not sure whether it will work or not. But you may use the image height changing command to check it out.

$150, currently

Or you  may use the sub command for the image.

$150, currently
legendary
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Maybe you should add date in first page when you check websites, so people can know if something may be outdated or not.
You can see the information at the bottom of the table. There is a sentence that says Last updated. The last time I made a full update was on 27 April.

I believe to have solved the problem.

I cached the price in a local file in my server, and we are not getting blocked by external API now.

It is faster, but as there are like 50+ requests, it still takes some time to load. But all images are loading now.
It works better now, thanks! Almost all of the images load successfully.

I also have a small suggestion for some casinos:
$150,  currently
Is there a way to lower the image entry and bring it in line with the text? If you look at the result, you will see that the BTC amount is slightly higher up than the word 'currently'.
legendary
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Something is wrong with dollar calculations and they are not loading for many casinos or they load incorrectly
I know. I PMed bitmover about it as well. There are too many images and that's causing the issues. I hope it will be sorted out.

I believe to have solved the problem.

I cached the price in a local file in my server, and we are not getting blocked by external API now.

It is faster, but as there are like 50+ requests, it still takes some time to load. But all images are loading now.




I also have a small suggestion for some casinos:
$150,  currently

Code:
https://bitcoindata.science/api/fiattobtc.php?coin=bitcoin&fiatamount=150
legendary
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I used to bet sometimes before withdrawal,  until a day when I lost like 0.04 btc in a stupid game lol it was not that money by the time, but i decided to stop gambling with my week earnings   Cheesy
This can happen to all of us, maybe first we won something and then greed takes over, but last two times I tried this I won nice amount of coins.

I will go through each casino and update the numbers because I haven't checked them in months.
I think many of them changed amounts and fees when ordinals created high transaction fees, but I can check for website I usually use.
Maybe you should add date in first page when you check websites, so people can know if something may be outdated or not.
I am doing this for my EFL Championship thread whenever I update table with team placements.
legendary
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Maybe they pay fees unless they confiscate your coins like they confiscated mine, so I am not using this casino anymore and I dont recommend it to anyone.
I am sorry to hear that. I never had such problems with FortuneJack, neither while I was active in their signature camping nor afterwards.

Another problem with them is minimal withdrawal amount that is $150, so nobody could withdraw that in signature campaign, this is so stupid  Grin
They have one of the highest minimum withdrawal amounts. I don't remember how it was while the campaign was active but I never had issues withdrawing my weekly earnings. And I usually did it on a weekly basis.

Sportsbet is much better, they dont charge any fees for withdrawal and minimum amount to withdraw bitcoin is 0.002 BTC that is now estimated at $60, so maybe you need to correct your table for that.
I will go through each casino and update the numbers because I haven't checked them in months.

Something is wrong with dollar calculations and they are not loading for many casinos or they load incorrectly
I know. I PMed bitmover about it as well. There are too many images and that's causing the issues. I hope it will be sorted out.

I find this thread very interesting and informative but Op you should as well listed some crypto casino that offers free withdrawal fees
You should check the table properly. Had you done that, you wouldn't have written that there aren't any.
legendary
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This is tactics to make a little extra money by doing nothing, but I can understand that sometimes this is needed to avoid loses.
I remember back in the day when I was a participant of the FortuneJack signature campaign, we used to receive our weekly payments in our casino accounts. FortuneJack had free withdrawals back then, and they still have them now. They obviously paid the blockchain fees when you withdrew bitcoin. For some of my withdrawals, I remember that the fees amounted up to $20-$30. Now imagine if it was similar for all other campaign participants. And then take it up a notch and think of all the other players who request withdrawals whose fees the casino pays. It surely amounts to quite a hefty sum.

I remembered my old days in yolodice campaign,  back in 2018 and 2019.

I received my payment in my yolodice account as well. I had to pay withdrawal fees, and I paid a lot of money in those fees.. I was making like 1 withdrawal per month, and sometimes fees were high.

I used to bet sometimes before withdrawal,  until a day when I lost like 0.04 btc in a stupid game lol it was not that money by the time, but i decided to stop gambling with my week earnings   Cheesy
legendary
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I remember back in the day when I was a participant of the FortuneJack signature campaign, we used to receive our weekly payments in our casino accounts. FortuneJack had free withdrawals back then, and they still have them now. They obviously paid the blockchain fees when you withdrew bitcoin. For some of my withdrawals, I remember that the fees amounted up to $20-$30. Now imagine if it was similar for all other campaign participants. And then take it up a notch and think of all the other players who request withdrawals whose fees the casino pays. It surely amounts to quite a hefty sum.
Maybe they pay fees unless they confiscate your coins like they confiscated mine, so I am not using this casino anymore and I dont recommend it to anyone.
Another problem with them is minimal withdrawal amount that is $150, so nobody could withdraw that in signature campaign, this is so stupid  Grin
Sportsbet is much better, they dont charge any fees for withdrawal and minimum amount to withdraw bitcoin is 0.002 BTC that is now estimated at $60, so maybe you need to correct your table for that.

This is what I see on Sportsbet website:



This is written in your table:



Something is wrong with dollar calculations and they are not loading for many casinos or they load incorrectly:



 


legendary
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This is tactics to make a little extra money by doing nothing, but I can understand that sometimes this is needed to avoid loses.
I remember back in the day when I was a participant of the FortuneJack signature campaign, we used to receive our weekly payments in our casino accounts. FortuneJack had free withdrawals back then, and they still have them now. They obviously paid the blockchain fees when you withdrew bitcoin. For some of my withdrawals, I remember that the fees amounted up to $20-$30. Now imagine if it was similar for all other campaign participants. And then take it up a notch and think of all the other players who request withdrawals whose fees the casino pays. It surely amounts to quite a hefty sum.
legendary
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Problems with gambling sites and centralized exchanges are they always very delayed to update withdrawal fee in a decreasing side but very quickly to upgrade withdrawal fee when they need to increase it.
This is tactics to make a little extra money by doing nothing, but I can understand that sometimes this is needed to avoid loses.
If I was the owner of casino I would have dynamic withdrawal fees and I would try to be honest about it, as much as that is possible in gambling business.
Big reputable casinos can afford to have no withdrawal fees on customer end.
legendary
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Mempools are cleaning up and you can make your transaction with 8 or 9 sat/vbyte to get quick confirmation within 1 or 2 blocks.
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),24h,weight
I like what I am seeing. Hopefully we can see the mempools emptying to 100k or below in the next couple of days. That would be a good sign.

Problems with gambling sites and centralized exchanges are they always very delayed to update withdrawal fee in a decreasing side but very quickly to upgrade withdrawal fee when they need to increase it.
That's the way the world works. The price of gasoline is a good example. It quickly moves upwards due to any related price increases on the market, but when the situation stabilizes, businesses aren't as quick to reduce their profits.
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This is normal situation in mempool and nothing serious, you can see right now that anyone can send bitcoin with High Priority and paying only 14 sat/vB or $0.60.
Mempools are cleaning up and you can make your transaction with 8 or 9 sat/vbyte to get quick confirmation within 1 or 2 blocks.
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),24h,weight

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I dont see any more hype around ordinals posted anywhere, and I dont think it affects casino withdrawals.
Maybe this will happen again in future and dynamic withdrawal fees fixes this.
They will upgrade themselves and try to exploit the Bitcoin Taproot protocol and mempools in future. If Bitcoin developers won't upgrade the protocol, those Ordinals will return like CryptoKitties on ERC20 returned in 2020 - 2022 with massive GameFi, Metaverse, NFT projects on the Ethereum blockchain.

Problems with gambling sites and centralized exchanges are they always very delayed to update withdrawal fee in a decreasing side but very quickly to upgrade withdrawal fee when they need to increase it.
legendary
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The Ordinals spam is still an ongoing issue. We currently have around 250.000 of unconfirmed transactions sitting in the mempools. This number will probably increase during business days by another 50-100k, so the situation is far from optimal.
This is normal situation in mempool and nothing serious, you can see right now that anyone can send bitcoin with High Priority and paying only 14 sat/vB or $0.60.
I dont see any more hype around ordinals posted anywhere, and I dont think it affects casino withdrawals.
Maybe this will happen again in future and dynamic withdrawal fees fixes this.
 
legendary
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A little correction is required here. OwlGames minimum withdrawal limit is 0.001 BTC, but you have added 0.0001 BTC in the table.
I changed it now to the correct number. Thanks again!

Aren't you going to add USD/EURO to crypto exchange rate code? It won't be bad to use that code instead of the 'equivalent in BTC'.
I have added the correct code for all exchanges that I believe should have it. The page struggles to display all the information, but the code is in the table. The info $X equivalent in BTC will remain for those casinos that don't have a fixed BTC amount for withdrawals and instead change it every time based on the current exchange rate. 

I also used some casino websites in last  several weeks and I noticed big increase in withdrawal fees, but like you said this was probably caused by many stuck transactions on bitcoin blockchain.
This is now all back to normal and I dont understand why casinos would not return fees back to normal states.
The Ordinals spam is still an ongoing issue. We currently have around 250.000 of unconfirmed transactions sitting in the mempools. This number will probably increase during business days by another 50-100k, so the situation is far from optimal.
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