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Topic: [Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos - page 3. (Read 12259 times)

legendary
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Hi Steve, thanks for letting me know. Sure, I will make the change in the table. You must have changed the sum today or yesterday. I did an update on 14 January where I checked almost all casinos in the table in my OP and Sportsbet.io still had 0.002 BTC as min. withdrawal then.
Pmalek can you tell me why are some values in table shown in bold red color even if they dont have the highest fees compared to others?
Other casinos dont have red color like Gamdom casin and they have very high Minimum Withdrawal Amount.
legendary
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I just noticed that you have updated the table with the latest information. You haven't posted any update log at this time. Looks like you have considered all the information which I had provided here. But somehow you missed to update the withdrawal details of Stake. Isn't it same for you on Stake?
I didn't finish the whole list of casinos that's why I didn't post an update. I actually stopped after Sportsbet.one, which would put Stake the next casino I need to look at. I also need to check the lists below the table since there have probably been some changes there was well. I hope I will have time to finish it tonight.

BTW, don't forget to update the min withdrawal limit of Bitcasino and Livecasino when you will change it for Sportsbet. These 3 betting sites are related, and the withdrawal amount has been reduced on the other two casinos too beside Sportsbet.
Yes, good thinking. I will do that.
legendary
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I did an update on 14 January where I checked almost all casinos in the table in my OP and Sportsbet.io still had 0.002 BTC as min. withdrawal then.
I just noticed that you have updated the table with the latest information. You haven't posted any update log at this time. Looks like you have considered all the information which I had provided here. But somehow you missed to update the withdrawal details of Stake. Isn't it same for you on Stake?



Their withdrawal limit is same like that since my last post here. BTW, don't forget to update the min withdrawal limit of Bitcasino and Livecasino when you will change it for Sportsbet. These 3 betting sites are related, and the withdrawal amount has been reduced on the other two casinos too beside Sportsbet.
legendary
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Hi @Pmalek

Sportsbet.io has dropped its minimum withdrawal amount to 0.001 BTC due to the rise of BTC
Hi Steve, thanks for letting me know. Sure, I will make the change in the table. You must have changed the sum today or yesterday. I did an update on 14 January where I checked almost all casinos in the table in my OP and Sportsbet.io still had 0.002 BTC as min. withdrawal then.

Pmalek, could you take a look at those casinos and add a new information column for Lightning Network withdrawal, please.

Like LN Withdrawal (Yes/ No).
I don't want to add any new columns to the table because it messes up the formatting, especially on phones and desktop machines with smaller screens. I have added BTC (LN) under the supported altcoins column for some casinos where I have noticed that they support the Lightning Network. It's not optimal, I know. But generally, I haven't paid too much attention to the fees on LN network. 
legendary
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Sportsbet.io has dropped its minimum withdrawal amount to 0.001 BTC due to the rise of BTC
This change to reduce minimal withdrawal amount through bitcoin will help Sportsbet.io's users a lot during this time with very expensive transaction fee on Bitcoin blockchain.

Pmalek, could you take a look at those casinos and add a new information column for Lightning Network withdrawal, please.

Like LN Withdrawal (Yes/ No).
legendary
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Hi @Pmalek

Sportsbet.io has dropped its minimum withdrawal amount to 0.001 BTC due to the rise of BTC

We will no doubt review again when it hits 50,000 and onwards.

Please update table when you can...

Many thanks..

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.20400
legendary
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I just gather the news with links without personal attacks. I don’t even bring over the Trust Pilot reviews since I can’t verify.
Stop with spam and with spreading of your propaganda here please.

Guys we are seriously going to have to have to report recent off-topic posts in this topic to moderators!
This is the place to take about withdrawal fees and withdrawal amounts on casinos, not about complaining and accusations.
Please everyone lets get back on topic.
jr. member
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I honestly don't know what to say..

I'm so sick of Peepspalace throwing sportsbooks under the bus for his agendas, it's just ridiculous.

Please read my response on the Sportsbet Scam accusation.. all the information is there to be read.. I gave a pretty honest review.
Just wish Peeps did the same with his sportsbook reviews.

I'm fine accepting stuffing up, and we have done it previously, but we have always been open and honest about it..

But ONE thing I won't accept or tolerate anymore is the fact that sportsbet.io are thrown under the bus by a has been in a topic labeled "Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts"

Sportsbet.io has always covered the cost of withdrawal fees since 2016, and we will stand by that. This part is cool.

What I won't stand by is having some has-been bring up a stupid scam accusation against us in a completely random thread. The mentioned Scam was quickly shut down in our favour with absolute facts.

I really didn't expect Peeps to bring up a false scam accusation against us in a thread like this.

So disappointing for the forum guys who were reading a pretty decent thread.

cheers lads.

Steve.
Sportsbet.io



I was one of the first participants in sportsbet.io since 2016. From his first month, he was distinguished by the Euro Championship at that time... wonderful competitions, valuable prizes, fast withdrawal and deposit, and with complete confidence and mastery.
 I really had very wonderful memories. So, after I lost my first account after the C,orona pandemic... and when I thought about returning to betting sites, it was sportsbet io, one of the first things that came to my mind.
 I found him still distinguished, brilliant, and in agreement with everyone
Thank you Steve thank u sportsbet io I wish you all the success, excellence and continuity
legendary
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Farewell, Leo. You will be missed!
The casino "claims" jurisdiction, bonus abuse, or limit circumvention". When you read the accusations, there is no reason for the player to do so and the casino has no proof.
Proof isn't always shared publicly because doing that is providing feedback and giving tips to abusers on how to improve. If casinos told everyone how they discovered their wrongdoings, the abusers would know exactly what to focus on and improve in the future. And I agree with sportsbet.io that this really isn't the place to discuss the particulars of past scam accusations.  

Besides, those opening scam accusations, often "conveniently" forget to mention the whole story or leave out things that make them guilty. So saying that they don't have a reason to multi-account or cheat is believing what they said is true just because they said it. I have already mentioned several reasons of why they try to scam casinos.

Would it be possible to add a column for "Alts free"?
Adding new columns to the table would mess up the formatting and they wouldn't all fit on most screens. You would see them in two rows. Just for clarity, what do you mean with "Alts Free?" Would it contain information about casinos where you can withdraw altcoins free of charge?    
legendary
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We shouldn't expect that crypto casinos lower their fees unless the market conditions change to everyone's favor. If network fees remain high, so will the transaction fees that crypto casinos apply.
True, but there are sites out there like Sportsbet.io that are still offering zero withdrawal fees using BTC which just goes to show how some of them care more about their customers than others.

Thankfully, we have alternative crypto like LTC, Doge etc and crypto exchangers like Poorbot etc that provide alternate solutions to this annoying issue.
Yeah!  This is truly a very player-friendly quality of a casino like Sportsbet.io.
 I agree that the question of the size of commissions for using Bitcoin arose and became relevant only recently, when this story with an overloaded mempool began.  
Others, Altcoins, of course, save players from large commissions, but it is worth considering that many people are accustomed to using only Bitcoin and it is inconvenient for them to constantly exchange Bitcoin for Altcoins, which, by the way, is also quite expensive.  

We shouldn't expect that crypto casinos lower their fees unless the market conditions change to everyone's favor. If network fees remain high, so will the transaction fees that crypto casinos apply.
I agree, of course, with OP Pmalek that we should not expect major changes in terms of improving the conditions of use of almost all casinos for the games of the least wealthy and thrifty players.  This is like a logical forecast of the entire sphere of cryptocurrency payments.
hero member
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We shouldn't expect that crypto casinos lower their fees unless the market conditions change to everyone's favor. If network fees remain high, so will the transaction fees that crypto casinos apply.
True, but there are sites out there like Sportsbet.io that are still offering zero withdrawal fees using BTC which just goes to show how some of them care more about their customers than others.

Thankfully, we have alternative crypto like LTC, Doge etc and crypto exchangers like Poorbot etc that provide alternate solutions to this annoying issue.
legendary
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Hi Peeps,

Besides being 100% incorrect.. this thread wasn't the place for it.

Pls leave scam-busting to the professionals and don't talk rubbish about books you know nothing about.


This blatant scam by the customer was never going to Arbitration... and if it was, you would NEVER be involved or consulted..

I haven't checked your ridiculously biased opinions on that biased sportsbook thread for years, but I'm guessing Nitrogen is still A or A + ( someone please confirm for me )

That in itself would say it all.

Don't throw us under the bus again for your ridiculous agenda, please..


regards

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

p.s. Its not our thread, so it's my last post on the matter out our respect to the thread owner.
I don’t want to be involved in any of your problems or deal with arbitration. It’s lose/lose situation. You could have gone to Ask Gamblers or Casino Guru. You took a guy's deposits and refused to show proof to anyone. No one agrees with you in the scam accusation thread. It's not the first time.  I just gather the news with links without personal attacks. I don’t even bring over the Trust Pilot reviews since I can’t verify. They have all kinds of complaints this year that you confiscated money accusing people of multi-accounting. 74% of the people rate you 1 out of 5.
legendary
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Hi Peeps,

Besides being 100% incorrect.. this thread wasn't the place for it.

Pls leave scam-busting to the professionals and don't talk rubbish about books you know nothing about.


This blatant scam by the customer was never going to Arbitration... and if it was, you would NEVER be involved or consulted..

I haven't checked your ridiculously biased opinions on that biased sportsbook thread for years, but I'm guessing Nitrogen is still A or A + ( someone please confirm for me )

That in itself would say it all.

Don't throw us under the bus again for your ridiculous agenda, please..


regards

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

p.s. Its not our thread, so it's my last post on the matter out our respect to the thread owner.
legendary
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Make winning bets on sports with sportsbet.io!
I honestly don't know what to say..

I'm so sick of Peepspalace throwing sportsbooks under the bus for his agendas, it's just ridiculous.

Please read my response on the Sportsbet Scam accusation.. all the information is there to be read.. I gave a pretty honest review.
Just wish Peeps did the same with his sportsbook reviews.

I'm fine accepting stuffing up, and we have done it previously, but we have always been open and honest about it..

But ONE thing I won't accept or tolerate anymore is the fact that sportsbet.io are thrown under the bus by a has been in a topic labeled "Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts"

Sportsbet.io has always covered the cost of withdrawal fees since 2016, and we will stand by that. This part is cool.

What I won't stand by is having some has-been bring up a stupid scam accusation against us in a completely random thread. The mentioned Scam was quickly shut down in our favour with absolute facts.

I really didn't expect Peeps to bring up a false scam accusation against us in a thread like this.

So disappointing for the forum guys who were reading a pretty decent thread.

cheers lads.

Steve.
Sportsbet.io

legendary
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Other books are stealing winnings and deposits for jurisdiction or multi-accounting. Just because the rules say they can steal doesn't make it right to steal.
Playing from restricted and banned restrictions is sadly a reality. Some players try it on purpose, others make mistakes and do it not knowing they aren't supposed to play from the geographical region they are in. Multi-accounting is also a thing, mainly because some players attempt to abuse bonuses, wanting to get their hands on some free money. It's wrong in both cases.  

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The casino "claims" jurisdiction, bonus abuse, or limit circumvention". When you read the accusations, there is no reason for the player to do so and the casino has no proof. It's the go to excuse to steal. For some reason it keeps happening to the same books but never happens to others.

Would it be possible to add a column for "Alts free"?
I had snooped in to intimate both of you (@Peeps Place and @Pmalek) That I have updated my crypto sportsbooks list. I have also mentioned both of your works at the bottom of the list. Your feedback is appreciated. Also, I am happy to join this conversation, if there's any help or opinion needed regarding the same. I am closely following the accusations posted above, seems non conclusive as of now. Thanks for your time and efforts. Happy New Year.
legendary
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Other books are stealing winnings and deposits for jurisdiction or multi-accounting. Just because the rules say they can steal doesn't make it right to steal.
Playing from restricted and banned restrictions is sadly a reality. Some players try it on purpose, others make mistakes and do it not knowing they aren't supposed to play from the geographical region they are in. Multi-accounting is also a thing, mainly because some players attempt to abuse bonuses, wanting to get their hands on some free money. It's wrong in both cases.  

[quote snip

The casino "claims" jurisdiction, bonus abuse, or limit circumvention". When you read the accusations, there is no reason for the player to do so and the casino has no proof. It's the go to excuse to steal. For some reason it keeps happening to the same books but never happens to others.

Would it be possible to add a column for "Alts free"?
legendary
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Farewell, Leo. You will be missed!
Other books are stealing winnings and deposits for jurisdiction or multi-accounting. Just because the rules say they can steal doesn't make it right to steal.
Playing from restricted and banned territories is sadly a reality. Some players try it on purpose, others make mistakes and do it not knowing they aren't supposed to play from the geographical region they are in. Multi-accounting is also a thing, mainly because some players attempt to abuse bonuses, wanting to get their hands on some free money. It's wrong in both cases.  

Since this disgrace with Bitcoin mempools has been going on for almost three months, a natural question arises: will there be a return to the usual values ​​of transaction fees in Bitcoins in the past or will we all have to get used to the new reality.
We shouldn't expect that crypto casinos lower their fees unless the market conditions change to everyone's favor. If network fees remain high, so will the transaction fees that crypto casinos apply.
legendary
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For example, I’m interested in how casinos will react to payments in Bitcoin in the new year if this mess with loading Ordinals continues.  In part, many players have already noticed some changes, but these changes are clear, they are logical and should be expected.
They will probably continue increasing the minimum withdrawal limits and withdrawal fees sadly.
Since this disgrace with Bitcoin mempools has been going on for almost three months, a natural question arises: will there be a return to the usual values ​​of transaction fees in Bitcoins in the past or will we all have to get used to the new reality. 
Of course, all casinos working with Bitcoin will adapt to the new reality of the mempool state.  It is likely that the most advanced of them will introduce adequate dynamic commissions, but they will certainly be quite large, which will force a number of players, those who do not use medium and large amounts in the game, to switch to another cryptocurrency.  Here the question naturally arises about how lojng this will last and how casinos will introduce dynamic commissions. 
This, of course, will not be very pleasant for players who are accustomed to the commissions and withdrawal amounts that their favorite casinos had before.
legendary
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Yes, the sum is correct. It's been like that ever since I created this thread. It's unbelievable that they have never lowered their fees.
That is crazy!
I dont have account there and I dont know anyone who is using this casino and now I know why.
Another casino I wont name was keeping high withdrawal amount for a long time, but they finally decided to reduce it.
I can understand if websites adjust withdrawal fees during high fees period, but Sportsbet still remains king with zero fees.
full member
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It is precisely for this enormous work on updating the data that we all, users of our forum, should be grateful to OP @Pmalek for the fact that he maintains this topic responsibly and checks all the changes that other users write here, usually based on their own experience.  
Well said. This particular thread is easily one of my most favourite threads in the entire forum primarily because it has helped me figure out fees and amount related queries pretty quickly without checking the sites themselves. It deserves to be stickied in the gambling board.

For example, I’m interested in how casinos will react to payments in Bitcoin in the new year if this mess with loading Ordinals continues.  In part, many players have already noticed some changes, but these changes are clear, they are logical and should be expected.
They will probably continue increasing the minimum withdrawal limits and withdrawal fees sadly.
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