taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match - page 2.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 22, 2022, 11:02:12 PM

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Quote from: btc78 on August 19, 2022, 08:48:04 PM

let him be because it is His decision and this is His money to spare , loan or not? it is His part and his obligation in the future .

But I am not respecting a loan for a gambling that is what my decision is.

This is what we can do for him. Let him make his own decisions because we have given him the best advice by not taking borrowed money if the borrowed money is only for gambling. He will suffer the consequences later if he ends up taking the loan; if he loses, he will also have to settle it. Taking a loan to play gambling is risky because there is no guarantee that we will win and can return the loan using the winning money.

And this is not the only risk, once you take a loan to gamble even if you happen to win this will in a way make such behavior normal in your mind, so the next time you find yourself in the same position then you will be more inclined to take the loan, and as long as you repeat this behavior then you will eventually get unlucky and find yourself in the difficult position of not having any money plus owing a loan, which could lead such person to look for yet another loan to try to dig themselves out of this difficult situation.

We might add that many people will not think about how they will pay back the borrowed money; even when they win, they don't return the money immediately and instead use it to gamble again. Borrowing money to gamble is a mistake they must realize before it's too late because, in the end, if a loss comes to us while we are not prepared for it, we can be stressed and frustrated. And if it is so, we can use any means to have more money to gamble and even use illegal ways to have money.

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Quote from: smartaction on August 23, 2022, 07:26:22 AM

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Quote from: Piesel on August 22, 2022, 04:19:01 PM

It is a bizarre action on the part of ops, and from the look of things he is relying on those fixed games now since his first attempt the matches were won, but if he will ever read comments on thos threads he should know better now from the advises posted here that it is a.bad idea to take loan for betting on fixed games as he said because to me there is nothingg like fixed games and he should be careful because the effect of his action may lead him into financial problems in the future.

That's correct, OP will continue to rely on fixed game information for his betting.

If ever he will establish consecutive wins, there's a chance he might think of now pushing for the loan. I hope he will stick to his previous statement here on not getting a loan and will use instead his own money.

OP needs to just take things easy. There should be no rushing things in order to get a profit.

It is good if op skip his decision taking loan for gamble . coz gambling is high risky and it will more risk if someone gamble with borrowed money. I like gambling very little and dislike it even more when someone gambles on loan . Because it can completely destroy a person. i Appreciate it if op cancel his decision about gambling with borrowing money

I also agree that because the first condition to start gambling is that you invest as much as you can afford to lose. There is high provability to loose all the fund. And there is no question of gambling on loans. Gambling should take as entertainment purpose not that way. I think If he can really avoid gambling by taking debt then I think he saved his life from ruin.

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I will appreciate if you subsequently drops games maybe i will love to try out but i won't go for loan to place a bet. You can initiate it every weekend lets see those lucky winners, next do not go take any loan because this is a game of probability you might win or lose and the probability of you winning is 1 and probability of you losing is 0 and i think you knows what means to your health coupled with taking a loan it might be disastrous to wellbeing which would probably affects your mental faculty. Always learn to bet with the little amount you have and don't apply Greed and much interest.

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Over 2.5 @ 2.02

1st Half - Asian Total
Over 1 @ 1.95

match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/tdRIgNRk/#/match-summary
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How about sharing how much have you've got from betting in fixed matches? though i am not a fan yet i love hearing that this is truly profitable and not just a wrong place for regular gambler.

Quote from: goinmerry on August 23, 2022, 06:47:46 PM

Quote from: Apocollapse on August 23, 2022, 10:19:16 AM

I think if he really have a good analysis to know the possible outcome of the match, he can just using his money even though with small amount, as long as he keep winning, he can increase hit bets.

OP is not relying on his own analysis.

If you missed the part, OP is relying on fixed match information where he didn't know actually if that even came from a legit source. That's the reason why OP wants to consider taking a loan as those bets he already did are all WIN.

It's good that taking a loan is not considered for the meantime and I hope it won't change in case OP will hit several winning bets.

he had explained this several times and look he is sharing some telegram group that shows about the place and team to bet on.

hey, it's not a group it's my username because I can only share so much information on the forum, if you look at my previous posts you'll get a better understanding of my betting amounts etc

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on August 23, 2022, 10:19:10 PM

Quote from: Adbitco on August 20, 2022, 04:29:19 AM

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

I will appreciate if you subsequently drops games maybe i will love to try out but i won't go for loan to place a bet. You can initiate it every weekend lets see those lucky winners, next do not go take any loan because this is a game of probability you might win or lose and the probability of you winning is 1 and probability of you losing is 0 and i think you knows what means to your health coupled with taking a loan it might be disastrous to wellbeing which would probably affects your mental faculty. Always learn to bet with the little amount you have and don't apply Greed and much interest.

CHINA
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5:30 AM ET

Cangzhou vs Zhejiang Professional

Asian Total
Over 2.5 @ 2.02

1st Half - Asian Total
Over 1 @ 1.95

match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/tdRIgNRk/#/match-summary
telegram: bigchancegoal

How about sharing how much have you've got from betting in fixed matches? though i am not a fan yet i love hearing that this is truly profitable and not just a wrong place for regular gambler.

Quote from: goinmerry on August 23, 2022, 06:47:46 PM

Quote from: Apocollapse on August 23, 2022, 10:19:16 AM

I think if he really have a good analysis to know the possible outcome of the match, he can just using his money even though with small amount, as long as he keep winning, he can increase hit bets.

OP is not relying on his own analysis.

If you missed the part, OP is relying on fixed match information where he didn't know actually if that even came from a legit source. That's the reason why OP wants to consider taking a loan as those bets he already did are all WIN.

It's good that taking a loan is not considered for the meantime and I hope it won't change in case OP will hit several winning bets.

he had explained this several times and look he is sharing some telegram group that shows about the place and team to bet on.

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Quote from: Adbitco on August 20, 2022, 04:29:19 AM

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

I will appreciate if you subsequently drops games maybe i will love to try out but i won't go for loan to place a bet. You can initiate it every weekend lets see those lucky winners, next do not go take any loan because this is a game of probability you might win or lose and the probability of you winning is 1 and probability of you losing is 0 and i think you knows what means to your health coupled with taking a loan it might be disastrous to wellbeing which would probably affects your mental faculty. Always learn to bet with the little amount you have and don't apply Greed and much interest.

CHINA
SUPER LEAGUE

5:30 AM ET

Cangzhou vs Zhejiang Professional

Asian Total
Over 2.5 @ 2.02

1st Half - Asian Total
Over 1 @ 1.95

match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/tdRIgNRk/#/match-summary
telegram: bigchancegoal

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 23, 2022, 06:47:46 PM

Quote from: Apocollapse on August 23, 2022, 10:19:16 AM

I think if he really have a good analysis to know the possible outcome of the match, he can just using his money even though with small amount, as long as he keep winning, he can increase hit bets.

OP is not relying on his own analysis.

If you missed the part, OP is relying on fixed match information where he didn't know actually if that even came from a legit source. That's the reason why OP wants to consider taking a loan as those bets he already did are all WIN.

It's good that taking a loan is not considered for the meantime and I hope it won't change in case OP will hit several winning bets.

I think it's still a good thing that he didn't take a loan for betting on unverified information that he heard of. Because if ever the information turned out wrong, he would definitely lose all the money he borrowed for in a snap. It's just fortunate that the odds were in his favor before. But if ever something similar happens again, who would have know if the same scenario will happen again, right?

I also do hope that OP won't be dragged down in betting continuously without risk assessment. Because no matter how big the winning prize would be, just one wrong decision could cost him so much. Bet small, win small. Bet big, lose big amount too.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 23, 2022, 10:19:16 AM

I think if he really have a good analysis to know the possible outcome of the match, he can just using his money even though with small amount, as long as he keep winning, he can increase hit bets.

OP is not relying on his own analysis.

If you missed the part, OP is relying on fixed match information where he didn't know actually if that even came from a legit source. That's the reason why OP wants to consider taking a loan as those bets he already did are all WIN.

It's good that taking a loan is not considered for the meantime and I hope it won't change in case OP will hit several winning bets.

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Quote from: smartaction on August 23, 2022, 07:26:22 AM

It is good if op skip his decision taking loan for gamble . coz gambling is high risky and it will more risk if someone gamble with borrowed money. I like gambling very little and dislike it even more when someone gambles on loan . Because it can completely destroy a person. i Appreciate it if op cancel his decision about gambling with borrowing money

He already learn about it, as you can see on his last post where he said he wouldn't do it anymore. I think the way how he really think a skill based games are actually can make money isn't really bad, but if he's using borrowed money, then it's really a bad idea.

I think if he really have a good analysis to know the possible outcome of the match, he can just using his money even though with small amount, as long as he keep winning, he can increase hit bets.

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on August 14, 2022, 11:41:24 PM

I agree, nobody should follow my actions. Hopefully I do not have to do it again.

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Quote from: STT on August 23, 2022, 07:46:21 AM

The fixed match information is going to end badly. False confidence and a bet placed with too high an amount for a result that one day doesnt deliver leading OP to lose possibly all his gains. Fixed matches have to be considered just as high risk and borrowing with money not yours. I cant see this ending well overall, take money off the table so you dont end up with nothing. Dont be greedy, simple advice hard to take I guess

Given that the OP wanted to bet on borrowed money, this is complete madness. Firstly, I don't believe that his information about fixed games was real. Secondly, even if the game is really fixed, this does not guarantee the desired result. For example, if a tennis player who is the favorite wants to lose a set or the whole game to a weaker opponent, he is faced with the fact that his opponent gets injured and loses the game. What can he do in this situation? Nothing. Thus, even a bet on a fixed game can be lost.

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The fixed match information is going to end badly. False confidence and a bet placed with too high an amount for a result that one day doesnt deliver leading OP to lose possibly all his gains. Fixed matches have to be considered just as high risk and borrowing with money not yours. I cant see this ending well overall, take money off the table so you dont end up with nothing. Dont be greedy, simple advice hard to take I guess

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 22, 2022, 05:31:29 PM

Quote from: Piesel on August 22, 2022, 04:19:01 PM

It is a bizarre action on the part of ops, and from the look of things he is relying on those fixed games now since his first attempt the matches were won, but if he will ever read comments on thos threads he should know better now from the advises posted here that it is a.bad idea to take loan for betting on fixed games as he said because to me there is nothingg like fixed games and he should be careful because the effect of his action may lead him into financial problems in the future.

That's correct, OP will continue to rely on fixed game information for his betting.

If ever he will establish consecutive wins, there's a chance he might think of now pushing for the loan. I hope he will stick to his previous statement here on not getting a loan and will use instead his own money.

OP needs to just take things easy. There should be no rushing things in order to get a profit.

It is good if op skip his decision taking loan for gamble . coz gambling is high risky and it will more risk if someone gamble with borrowed money. I like gambling very little and dislike it even more when someone gambles on loan . Because it can completely destroy a person. i Appreciate it if op cancel his decision about gambling with borrowing money

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Quote from: harizen on August 21, 2022, 06:34:13 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 20, 2022, 01:26:55 PM

It's good that afterwards, he realized that it's not good and things like this should not be backup or be followed.

Even though OP now decides to use his money instead and not take a loan, it doesn't change the fact that OP is still relying on those fixed match information.

Since OP also records a winning, it will create a thing in his mind that the fixed match information is legit, real, and accurate. After a series of more winnings, he might again think of getting a loan to increase his bets as he will surely regret that if only his bet is large, he might be able to earn more.

I hope not.

I can agree to that, and one mistake will lead him to suffer more. That chance of thinking that the foxed information is for real can force him to push forward and take that loan. Wishing him not as well, but it's instinct and most of the time, wrong decision making has been done when you are already engaged in gambling. A human failure that cause by greed and desire to win a lot.

A matter of how he can manage handling his lust in terms of his gambling appetite. We can't speak for him though it' s only him who can agree or denied the opinions about it.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 20, 2022, 10:29:11 AM

Quote from: btc78 on August 19, 2022, 08:48:04 PM

let him be because it is His decision and this is His money to spare , loan or not? it is His part and his obligation in the future .

But I am not respecting a loan for a gambling that is what my decision is.

This is what we can do for him. Let him make his own decisions because we have given him the best advice by not taking borrowed money if the borrowed money is only for gambling. He will suffer the consequences later if he ends up taking the loan; if he loses, he will also have to settle it. Taking a loan to play gambling is risky because there is no guarantee that we will win and can return the loan using the winning money.

And this is not the only risk, once you take a loan to gamble even if you happen to win this will in a way make such behavior normal in your mind, so the next time you find yourself in the same position then you will be more inclined to take the loan, and as long as you repeat this behavior then you will eventually get unlucky and find yourself in the difficult position of not having any money plus owing a loan, which could lead such person to look for yet another loan to try to dig themselves out of this difficult situation.

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Quote from: erep on August 21, 2022, 03:34:31 PM

Using borrowed money for gambling is highly discouraged even though he has measured high chances of winning from gambling bets, but things can change so that he can lose the borrowed money that has been used on gambling and he will be required to pay it on the agreed date, if the borrower finds out borrowed money used in gambling would be much worse and he would never lend again ever.

That's right because there is no guarantee for us to be able to win in the gambling, making it difficult for us to return the money.
It will be more difficult for the borrower of money when he has no money at all, no income, and only wants to borrow money to play gambling.
I've met someone like this but luckily, he quickly realized his mistake and didn't repeat it.
But there are also these types of people in some places who don't seem to care that what they're doing is wrong and they've lost things in their house just to borrow money.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.

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Sometimes, we have to take risk in order to have high rewards. However, this is applicable if only the money we are going to risk is really ours. At the very least we have to be responsible of the money that isn't really ours to begin with. In my principle, I wouldn't gamble the money I don't initially own. This is because of the risks gambling possess.

Afterall, not everyday is a good day in gambling. There would be times that you will lose unexpectedly. Maybe that time that you risked, the odds were just on your favor. But how about if the circumstance that happened was the other way around? How would you bounce back? You should think of the repercussions before deciding so that you won't be in the losing end.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 21, 2022, 10:04:27 AM

Quote from: Fatunad on August 20, 2022, 02:57:31 PM

Making bets with those loan or borrowed amounts is considered suicide even putting up on investment is already risky,How much more if you do make out betting or gamble out with those funds?
Gamble with your extra funds or which is only allocated for the sake of leisure things and never ever consider on taking up some loan because you would eventually lose it all in the end.
Im aint saying that you cant make winnings with sports betting but it wont really be giving out any guarantees that you would really succeed on this one.So its better
gamble on the amount that you can afford as always which is always been the primary rule when it comes to fund management.

Yes there's no guarantee nor assurance in gambling, better not to take a risk with this. Yes there will be a chance that he will earn by using that loan but the thing what if a sudden change may come? having a loan is such a pain, many people love to take loans just for them to use in other things that aren't necessary or using it to gamble and getting in a big trouble because they can't afford to pay the loan. Better not to play for awhile, rather than taking loans.

And this is where you do end up on;

1. Losing your assets
2. Losing your wife
3. Losing your loved ones
4. Losing everything

If you arent that good on controlling your gambling addiction plus taking up some loan
then you would really be ending up on miserable life.

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Quote from: Piesel on August 22, 2022, 04:19:01 PM

It is a bizarre action on the part of ops, and from the look of things he is relying on those fixed games now since his first attempt the matches were won, but if he will ever read comments on thos threads he should know better now from the advises posted here that it is a.bad idea to take loan for betting on fixed games as he said because to me there is nothingg like fixed games and he should be careful because the effect of his action may lead him into financial problems in the future.

That's correct, OP will continue to rely on fixed game information for his betting.

If ever he will establish consecutive wins, there's a chance he might think of now pushing for the loan. I hope he will stick to his previous statement here on not getting a loan and will use instead his own money.

OP needs to just take things easy. There should be no rushing things in order to get a profit.

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Quote from: harizen on August 21, 2022, 06:34:13 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 20, 2022, 01:26:55 PM

It's good that afterward, he realized that it's not good and things like this should not be backup or be followed.

Even though OP now decides to use his money instead and not take a loan, it doesn't change the fact that OP is still relying on those fixed match information.

Since OP also records a winning, it will create a thing in his mind that the fixed match information is legit, real, and accurate. After a series of more winnings, he might again think of getting a loan to increase his bets as he will surely regret that if only his bet is large, he might be able to earn more.

I hope not.

It is a bizarre action on the part of ops, and from the look of things he is relying on those fixed games now since his first attempt the matches were won, but if he will ever read comments on thos threads he should know better now from the advises posted here that it is a.bad idea to take loan for betting on fixed games as he said because to me there is nothingg like fixed games and he should be careful because the effect of his action may lead him into financial problems in the future.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 20, 2022, 01:26:55 PM

It's good that afterwards, he realized that it's not good and things like this should not be backup or be followed.

Even though OP now decides to use his money instead and not take a loan, it doesn't change the fact that OP is still relying on those fixed match information.

Since OP also records a winning, it will create a thing in his mind that the fixed match information is legit, real, and accurate. After a series of more winnings, he might again think of getting a loan to increase his bets as he will surely regret that if only his bet is large, he might be able to earn more.

I hope not.

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Quote from: Maslate on July 22, 2022, 12:53:01 AM

You missed the opportunity, LOL.

But this one, I think you should not miss it as long as you believe that the fixed game information is accurate. Thanks for sharing here but I think I'm gonna pass, I trust myinstinct rather than the tip from a so-called expert or insider.

Yeah I think it is better to trust your own instinct and follow your mind, I see.it as a highly irresponsible act to get a loan to ace a bet. This act have made so many gamblers to go bankrupt in the past and if I will advise ops he should never take alon for such a high-risk gamble as there is nothing like fixed matches and he was just lucky to have won this time but he may not be that lucky to win next time. That is how the scam works.

I had a similar experience some time ago where a member on social media contacted me with his acclaimed fixed match games and he even went as far as asking me to pay half as upfront and when the game won I balance him, but I was curious and I decided to follow my mind not to get involved in the such risky act so I blank the user to avoid scam am not saying the user is scam but again the possibility of that is kind of high.

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