taking out a loan for a sports bet (UPDATE) + fixed match - page 8.

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Quote from: virasog on July 23, 2022, 03:22:11 PM

How about the insiders just predicted the winner and luckily the winner was the same as predicted.

That's the common practice of those who want to sell their sports tip. They don't bet their money in real and will just predict who will win.

And if quite some time that they were able to produce good winning stats they will now show their portfolio to people and will be claimed that their winning percentage is high. They will spread their words on most platforms as much as possible.

Maybe OP was also relying on those kinds of tipsters that claimed to have inside tips on the fixed or rigged matches. If that's the real story, OP will surely be in trouble if he subscribed and follow that specific tip with the use of the loan and the result was lose.

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Quote from: agustina2 on July 23, 2022, 08:44:59 AM

Quote from: aioc on July 23, 2022, 06:52:53 AM

You cannot blame anybody because you're the one who will make the final decision, but the rule is never to take a loan to gamble, what if you lose what if the tip is fake or if there was a change of plan, it's better to sell some of the things that you don't need than taking a loan, that way you just rid the things that you don't need and have money to gamble, there will be more tips coming what if you take a loan this time and end up that its a fake tip, we just ease up your burden so take the situation as is don't blame anyone or yourself.

And if OP won that bet with the use of the loan, he will continue to take loans after loans since he thinks it was effective from the beginning.

Not all inside tips are accurate. What if on that 95% probability to win, OP hits bad luck with the 5% chance of losing.

He will end up broke on how to pay that loan. That's a worst-case scenario.

First time he did not take the loan and regret on his decision. How about he may take a loan now and again and try his luck on the next insider information. How unfortunate it would be if that information proves to be wrong and he loses the bet.

My point is how he is so sure that the match results were already known to the insiders. How about the insiders just predicted the winner and luckily the winner was the same as predicted.

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Quote from: aioc on July 23, 2022, 06:52:53 AM

You cannot blame anybody because you're the one who will make the final decision, but the rule is never to take a loan to gamble, what if you lose what if the tip is fake or if there was a change of plan, it's better to sell some of the things that you don't need than taking a loan, that way you just rid the things that you don't need and have money to gamble, there will be more tips coming what if you take a loan this time and end up that its a fake tip, we just ease up your burden so take the situation as is don't blame anyone or yourself.

And if OP won that bet with the use of the loan, he will continue to take loans after loans since he thinks it was effective from the beginning.

Not all inside tips are accurate. What if on that 95% probability to win, OP hits bad luck with the 5% chance of losing.

He will end up broke on how to pay that loan. That's a worst-case scenario.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

You cannot blame anybody because you're the one who will make the final decision, but the rule is never to take a loan to gamble, what if you lose what if the tip is fake or if there was a change of plan, it's better to sell some of the things that you don't need than taking a loan, that way you just rid the things that you don't need and have money to gamble, there will be more tips coming what if you take a loan this time and end up that its a fake tip, we just ease up your burden so take the situation as is don't blame anyone or yourself.

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Quote from: chaser15 on July 23, 2022, 06:37:55 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 23, 2022, 12:58:57 AM

Think for a moment, that you had taken the loan, place the bet and lose the bet. Now you would be in trouble as you have to return the loan which you have already lost in the bet.

And the funny thing is, OP is not even trusting the inside information since if he is really sure about it, he will disregard all the advice that he needs to take the loan. OP is still afraid and doubtful that his inside information might not win.

There's still a hesitation on his part that's why it makes me think now that inside information is not even reliable right from the start.

Nice play, OP.

Probably hyping is own work, will never trust anyone saying that the match is fixed and having a loan for such bet it not good at all.
Fixed matches is a bad image in sports, hopefully the regulator will closely monitor those rumors because if its true most probably they will suffer as well and penalty should impose right away. To OP, if you don't trust the signal don't make any excuses anymore just skip that offer and do your own analysis.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 23, 2022, 12:58:57 AM

Think for a moment, that you had taken the loan, place the bet and lose the bet. Now you would be in trouble as you have to return the loan which you have already lost in the bet.

And the funny thing is, OP is not even trusting the inside information since if he is really sure about it, he will disregard all the advice that he needs to take the loan. OP is still afraid and doubtful that his inside information might not win.

There's still a hesitation on his part that's why it makes me think now that inside information is not even reliable right from the start.

Nice play, OP.

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Quote from: Oilacris on July 22, 2022, 05:42:45 PM

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

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I do feel that you are just trying out to scatter or market out your TG link.

Kidding aside on which it is good that you havent taken a loan and listen out on community feedbacks and suggestions but its not really that good if you do keep on regretting just because you hadnt
able to get all in with that particular bet but still we know that profit is a profit and that what really counts.Just like on what been questioned above is that why would making out some
sharing of those insider info if those are legit? you could just be quiet and bet out for yourself once again since you wont really be getting any benefit into this community.

I also thought that he advertises his telegram channel as he has many different topics with intriguing content. Now I doubt that the content of his topics is true and not fictional from beginning to end. If he wrote the truth, then judging by past earnings, he could pay for channel promotion without any problems and get an audience much faster and more efficiently than just adding the address of his telegram channel at the end of his next strange topic.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.

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I am not sure what you are up to. You got the insider information and you did not have a lot of money to place the bet. But now you are saying that someone else take advantage of the bets. This means that you keep on getting such news on regular basis ?

You have also given you telegram address seems like you are looking for clients who need such bets information Roll Eyes

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

At this moment, you might wish that you should have taken the loan and would have won a lot more money but at the moment when you thought to take the loan you were not 100% confident and sure that you will win the bet. It was a risk at that time and it was wise for you not to take the loan.

Think for a moment, that you had taken the loan, place the bet and lose the bet. Now you would be in trouble as you have to return the loan which you have already lost in the bet.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

What if the other way around happened? Are you ready to face the problem? It's like you are blaming us for the good advice we did. It's also better if you share your actual bet here and not just post it in words to make it real. If you really have information on fixed matches, posting 5-10 actual bets here should not harm you and it might boost your audience here.

Care to share it starting from now?

And what's the sense of sharing your Telegram link here? To promote your service and ask for a subscription in the future?

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Funny OP. If only you didn't listen to us you should make big earnings lol. I don't really have trust even though I have information about the fixed matches. It's not what I will think as a priority but what if that information leads to loss? How will you pay the loan? Do you even have any Plan B?

Taking a loan is risky. Why add another risk in the case your bet loses? Next time, go ahead with your decision. I just hope you won't be wrecked. That's a big problem and I doubt you can find a solution in case of losing your bet that comes from a loan.

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Next time OP, don't ask the people here about what to do. If you trust your fixed match information then go for it.

If you take a loan, it's not our problem anymore. I don't like the way you said that it seems if you only didn't listen to us, you should bag more of a profit.

And if I remember it right, the amount you are asking for a loan is somehow decent. I don't even think you will be qualified for that amount.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

What did you mean by that expression? That the community is wrong at their advice? That you blame the community as you should bring big profit?

Then what's your goal of still posting here?

If you really believed in the inside information you are getting at whatever source, then just follow what you like to do and don't engage the community asking for any advice or suggestions so you won't feel regret next time. Go take a loan and take the risks. No one will stop you.

Simple as that.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

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I do feel that you are just trying out to scatter or market out your TG link.

Kidding aside on which it is good that you havent taken a loan and listen out on community feedbacks and suggestions but its not really that good if you do keep on regretting just because you hadnt
able to get all in with that particular bet but still we know that profit is a profit and that what really counts.Just like on what been questioned above is that why would making out some
sharing of those insider info if those are legit? you could just be quiet and bet out for yourself once again since you wont really be getting any benefit into this community.

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To @Op

I do not "question" your knowledge on the subject and the real possibility of being able to obtain inside information ... but I wonder why you ask for a loan from complete strangers while also revealing "confidential" information? wouldn't you get a better result by asking for a loan from friends in private or through a bank account?
Why are you taking such risk?

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Loan based gambling is identical to asset trading with leverage.

It increases the dollar amount of both wins and losses, proportionately.

A gambler with a 49% win average. Can expect to be unprofitable. Whether they gamble on loan based leverage or without it.

With trading or gambling it all comes down to consistency.

While there is insider gambling it is not always accurate.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.

Oh so it was you? I still remember that one thread you have created. Sorry because I was among those who advised you to not take the loan. You already have a positive feeling that time but you still manage to open up a thread and ask the community here for a second opinion. That it was a nice move somehow. What important here is that you still win something but if you lose, you will lose huge and you will have a hard time paying that big loan you took.

Now that you are confident with your abilities, why are you betting small this time? Encouraging others here to bet on the same match doesn't increase your profit if ever the result is a win but they'll be glad and maybe tip you some.

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Gambling is all about coincidence. Everytime one can't be lucky to make big wins. I find OP to be good enough in making right prediction about the matches. So, his suggestion could bring in big win. Going for a loan is always risky, however with fixed matches this is an easy choice of making big money. Here we can't believe, because none knows how a match is concluded as a fixed one.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on July 10, 2022, 09:01:34 AM

Hi everyone, about a month ago I made a post about having insider info for a soccer match and I asked the community what the best way was to take out a large loan. I had a lot of people advise me not to do so, so I took your advice and didn't take out a loan, instead I just placed the amount I already had in my account.

Anyway, the bet won easily so I couldn't help but feel like I should've taken out the loan... Sad

I wanted to share a match on here in case anyone wants to follow along, I'm unable to place a large bet on this so I'm hoping someone else takes advantage. I hope this isn't against any community guidelines.

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Jaro vs Ekenas

Asian Total
Over 3 @ 2.14

1st Half - Asian Total
Over 1 @ 1.65

match link: https://www.flashscore.com/match/vFo3COwn/#/match-summary
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We’ll, always remember that gambling is based more on luck than your own skills or strategies. If you were once lucky that time when you gamble, the next time you gamble will be quite different. So it’s still a good idea that you never take that loan because the result in gambling always comes unpredictable. Once you start to develop taking loans, let’s say you end up winning in your first gambling activity then don’t tell me that you’ll not take the loan again the next time you gamble? Sometimes you have to avoid taking loans to avoid that addiction unless it’s necessary.

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The problem is what would have happened if the people who told you about the fixed match were wrong ? You would have not only lost all that amount but you would have been in debt for a really long time which also means that, these things can turn ugly instantly as well, i do think that you realise that you were lucky as well ! Congratulations you made some money 💰 that's great, well some people might try and use the new stats you provided to make a bet but for me personally I won't since at the end of the day I believe " these things can / cannot work " why risk that much !

Ofcourse sharing is not against community guidelines, well best of luck for everyone who is gonna make the bet you should make sure to update as well !

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