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legendary
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Yeah, almost all modern features available in other currencies will be available. I have been wondering if the community would be open to dropping a zero in the swap. Note that that i make a lot of assumptions in the positive in this proposal :-

1) We drop a zero so if you currently have 1 000 TALK ,  when the new chain starts, you have 100. This will result in the current supply being denoted as 6.9 million.
2) We then place a cap at 12 million, and allow assets to be issued on the chain later.
3) Minimum stake age at 4 hours with 25% stake to encourage current holders to stake and bring in new users.
4) Introduce servicenodes (developing services will take time but i have ideas) to encourage users to have 24/7 online nodes.
5) servicenodes cost will then be 1000 TALK.

Now for the assumptions :-

If we assume that 50% of supply is lost in exchanges/wallets etc, we have an effective supply of ~ 3.5 M. Assuming as well that users new and old create ~ 200 servicenodes , the circulating supply would go down to 3 million. With the dropped zero and the removal of a large chunk of the supply from the markets for staking as well as servicenodes, the price will pick up. The next move would be a steady flow of developments and updates as well as user pressure on exchanges to list the coin. This should make for an adequate swap path that results in renewed interest in TALK.

Note the above is just an optimistic proposal, feel free to add/remove/change whatever you like.

1) Dropping a zero might not be the best idea cuz last time I checked the circulating supply in the active wallets was around 3-5mln TALK and there is a good chance that all other wallets are gone forever. So if we drop a zero from 5mln TALK, wouldn't it make it too scarce with 300-500k supply?
2) If you place a cap does it mean the ROI will be gradually decreasing in time?
3) 25% sounds good to me
4)5) Servicenodes is a good idea to implement.
full member
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:thinking cap on:

keep the 15% PoS to attract new users

include coin control

HD compatible wallet?

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Yeah, almost all modern features available in other currencies will be available. I have been wondering if the community would be open to dropping a zero in the swap. Note that that i make a lot of assumptions in the positive in this proposal :-

1) We drop a zero so if you currently have 1 000 TALK ,  when the new chain starts, you have 100. This will result in the current supply being denoted as 6.9 million.
2) We then place a cap at 12 million, and allow assets to be issued on the chain later.
3) Minimum stake age at 4 hours with 25% stake to encourage current holders to stake and bring in new users.
4) Introduce servicenodes (developing services will take time but i have ideas) to encourage users to have 24/7 online nodes.
5) servicenodes cost will then be 1000 TALK.

Now for the assumptions :-

If we assume that 50% of supply is lost in exchanges/wallets etc, we have an effective supply of ~ 3.5 M. Assuming as well that users new and old create ~ 200 servicenodes , the circulating supply would go down to 3 million. With the dropped zero and the removal of a large chunk of the supply from the markets for staking as well as servicenodes, the price will pick up. The next move would be a steady flow of developments and updates as well as user pressure on exchanges to list the coin. This should make for an adequate swap path that results in renewed interest in TALK.

Note the above is just an optimistic proposal, feel free to add/remove/change whatever you like.


legendary
Activity: 1894
Merit: 1001

:thinking cap on:

keep the 15% PoS to attract new users

include coin control

HD compatible wallet?

...
full member
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Except since TALK was delisted almost 5 years ago, they may have deleted the wallet.dat?
And most accounts with TALK might be abandoned long ago.

I'm afraid that's the case. Even if they still have wallet.dat file they won't re-enable withdrawals, maybe unless there is huge community demand. But TALK's community is now to scarce right now.


P.S. Blockchain Mechanic, any news?

Was on the road so not much online time. Anyway I think we can safely announce a snapshot date right ?
Since there is low activity on the forum and the chain can we set if for a week from now ?

I propose Sunday 1 June 2019 GMT 00:00 for the snap shot. Once it is done, I will put the balances into a new chain with similar parameters but updated code then we can begin.

Also, if there are any suggestions now would be the time.
sr. member
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Interested in org a Crypto Escrow Team for Classic Crypto Swaps

https://stakingrewards.com/
legendary
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please do not use yobit fork, cannot count on them :/

otherwise, awesome to see some action finally Cheesy
sr. member
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https://chainz.cryptoid.info/talk/block.dws?1843767.htm

This is almost the very minute Yobit broke off
2019-02-27 15:36:17

BLOCK 1843767 Yobit_wallet was in sync with chainz
3 minutes later Yobit is broadcast somewhere else Angry

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these are rats....with "circle jerk trust ratings"--> should be shoved down their throats.
Vod & the
cryptodevils
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224980

[ANN] CET - Crypto Escrow Team 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrowing-on-demand-1938190
sr. member
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The list of Bitrex/Polo listed POS chains is getting very short.
New exchange:
https://bitsfox.com/exchange/SPRTS-DOGE
+sprouts
+dope
+panda
legendary
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Except since TALK was delisted almost 5 years ago, they may have deleted the wallet.dat?
And most accounts with TALK might be abandoned long ago.

I'm afraid that's the case. Even if they still have wallet.dat file they won't re-enable withdrawals, maybe unless there is huge community demand. But TALK's community is now to scarce right now.


P.S. Blockchain Mechanic, any news?
sr. member
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re: poloneix held tALK

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Delisting announcement
On Friday, May 17th, at 16:00 UTC, markets for the following assets will be disabled on Poloniex: SYS, SBD, HUC, XCP, NMC, PPC, and BURST. Please finalize all trades and close any positions in these assets prior to May 17th. In addition, we have temporarily re-enabled withdrawals for the following delisted assets: MINT, MYR, GRS, QTL, and RDD. The withdrawal deadline for these assets is as follows:

SYS: June 3rd at 16:00 UTC
MINT, MYR, GRS, QTL, and RDD: June 10th at 16:00 UTC
SBD, HUC, XCP, NMC, PPC, and BURST:

if they are allowing withdraws of long delisted MINT, MYR, GRS, QTL
then if TALK becomes popular again they likely will open a TALK withdraw if petitioned.

Except since TALK was delisted almost 5 years ago, they may have deleted the wallet.dat?
And most accounts with TALK might be abandoned long ago.
full member
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Can someone send some coins to this address please CKD3J1pEzJULXEZGGMiiayPuPnWV8q2c9C.

Done.

Great, will check it out in the morning.
legendary
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Can someone send some coins to this address please CKD3J1pEzJULXEZGGMiiayPuPnWV8q2c9C.

Done.
full member
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Can someone send some coins to this address please CKD3J1pEzJULXEZGGMiiayPuPnWV8q2c9C.

legendary
Activity: 1208
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HI all

1) Old wallet does not compile in ubuntu 18.04.So i had to swith to 16.04 version.

2) initial sync from scratch failed , am trying a fresh one again. This is crucial as I need a prestine copy of the chain synced with -txindex.

Will keep you updated.

Hey if you need it, here's my blockchain snapshot that I uploaded yesterday: https://mega.nz/#!tJI00CoY!EAfKYAiUP0MmF9_PKa0S9-Qn1sKndH3Mfo3P6UR-PL8
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HI all

1) Old wallet does not compile in ubuntu 18.04.So i had to swith to 16.04 version.

2) initial sync from scratch failed , am trying a fresh one again. This is crucial as I need a prestine copy of the chain synced with -txindex.

Will keep you updated.
sr. member
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I will be AWOL for the next 2 weeks.  Look forward to your plans.

Final thoughts:

TALK is the brand, and the value is that it is a surviving pos chain that is 5 years old.
The code can be updated but any fundamental changes to the coin specs or name would likely be fatal.

If plans are for a rebrand, then fork it off into its own project, change the coin specs as you please.
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Agreed, meanwhile i should be done with my preparation by tomorrow.
legendary
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My suggestion is to get the Yobit chain reconnected (the fork) via finding whatever node they are on.

Then there are 2 TALK chains.

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There is no "true" chain, they are both out there. The community just needs to pick one.

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Re: yobit

reconnecting is possible.
but it would be a fork, like bcash to BTC.

By "reconnecting" I mean just finding the ip node that is yobit.  And possibly providing a bootstrap to the yobit_fork.


I'm still insisting on keeping just one "true" chain which is the longest chain with Nova and Chainz explorer on it. No need to create any of those TALK cash or TALK SV or whatever forks Smiley

Besides there is always a possibility that yobit puts the wallet in maintenance and keeps it like that forever. Although I heard that they were planning to do some big maintenance works for lots of wallets this week so there is a chance they will finally do something about TALK wallet too. I also provided them with a blockchain snapshot and active nodes not too long ago. So lets see what happens.

If nothing then IMHO we should move on with the swap as suggested by Blockchain Mechanic.
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re: yobit chain Grin
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meaning that they are now essentially different chains on their own.

I get that.  But getting reconnected is possible.  Just find their node, and get a copy of the yobit chain.
This at least allows trade of this FORK.


re: the TRUE chain
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One has to be chosen and the decision has to be firm.

I am firm in decision that the chain that is in sync with the well known chainz block explorer is the TRUE chain.


reconnecting is impossible. Only one chain can be chosen. What you are saying is that you prefer the yobit chain. Previous posters seem to prefer nova hence the need for consensus. There is no "true" chain, they are both out there. The community just needs to pick one. I myself hold no coins so i do not have a preference, my leaning towards the nova chain is because i have been told that communication with yobit support is non-existent. So if Nova is the exchange that works with the community, they'd be the obvious choice. There are three people currently in the conversation, let's hear what other members of the community have to say and it would be awesome if some of them were long time members, that way we can have a larger group come to a decision.

I am firm in decision that the chain that is in sync with the well known chainz block explorer is the TRUE chain.
That is my vote for Nova.

Re: yobit

reconnecting is possible.
but it would be a fork, like bcash to BTC.

By "reconnecting" I mean just finding the ip node that is yobit.  And possibly providing a bootstrap to the yobit_fork.

But yobit_fork is moreless no longer TALK already.  IMO  

Ok, we are way past forcing a re-org on their end. They themselves need to restart their node with an empty data folder while connected to the rest in order to join the rest... if they had not accepted or sent any coins then they would have no problem. But if they did allow deposits and withdrawals that may be somewhat difficult for them to reconcile balances.

I think that is three votes for nova. Would others care to weigh in ?
sr. member
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re: yobit chain Grin
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meaning that they are now essentially different chains on their own.

I get that.  But getting reconnected is possible.  Just find their node, and get a copy of the yobit chain.
This at least allows trade of this FORK.


re: the TRUE chain
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One has to be chosen and the decision has to be firm.

I am firm in decision that the chain that is in sync with the well known chainz block explorer is the TRUE chain.


reconnecting is impossible. Only one chain can be chosen. What you are saying is that you prefer the yobit chain. Previous posters seem to prefer nova hence the need for consensus. There is no "true" chain, they are both out there. The community just needs to pick one. I myself hold no coins so i do not have a preference, my leaning towards the nova chain is because i have been told that communication with yobit support is non-existent. So if Nova is the exchange that works with the community, they'd be the obvious choice. There are three people currently in the conversation, let's hear what other members of the community have to say and it would be awesome if some of them were long time members, that way we can have a larger group come to a decision.

I am firm in decision that the chain that is in sync with the well known chainz block explorer is the TRUE chain.
That is my vote for Nova.

Re: yobit

reconnecting is possible.
but it would be a fork, like bcash to BTC.

By "reconnecting" I mean just finding the ip node that is yobit.  And possibly providing a bootstrap to the yobit_fork.

But yobit_fork is moreless no longer TALK already.  IMO  
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