Topic: TBC (Read 4515 times)

I don't care about my apparent "crimes". Your hole is deeper with blackmailing and threatening.

read the PGP scammer - Tax evasion from slack logs is added the list..

Financial crimes
Customs
Tax office...

the hole is getting deeper.

Yeah, blackmailing and threatening for a good cause right?

Calling someone's mother (who had nothing to do with anything) shouldn't be accepted, that's just disgusting. TMAN you seriously need to reconsider what you're doing because half the shit your claiming is nothing or inaccurate

we just needed confirmation of the contact number for the police file - we now have it...

Tman threatened me to call my mother to tell her about the "crimes" I have done, some seconds later: Ding ding, TMAN called my mother. Nice try man, my mom doesn't get into this whole shit.
Threatening with calling a family member? Hmmm. Any thoughts on the legal aspects on that?

I am also in EU.

EU law does not exist. Every country has its own laws and they differ tremendously within EU. You need to specify which country laws you think are applicable.

However that being said nobody is going to any court about any of these issues. So even if there would be some law of some country it would be pretty irrelevant especially some details of it.


What matters is moral code and that has some relevance to general worldwide consensus about laws or how they are interpreted by laypeople. Some lawyers opinion does not matter at all how laypeople in bitcointalk define their moral code. This is quite generally accepted.

Most of the stuff that people accuse Zerox of doing seem pretty small stuff. I glanced over the accusations and it seemed like somebody wanted to hide the lack of anything explosive by making the list long with petty stuff.

The extortion attempt was by far the biggest issue in here and it is significant exactly because that stuff is new. Do we want to add another thing to long list of shady stuff that are considered acceptable by bitcointalk general moral code?

Extortion is extortion whether you want money or information or a pink pony or whatever else to yourself. And in this case it was traditional extortion in exchange for money with undeniable written proof for it in the messages sent to Zerox. I do not know any other crimes that can be explained away by writing some note to yourself that you keep hidden in your drawer. How the perp interacts with the victim and what happens in that interaction is what matters in criminal cases and what defines what kind of a crime it is. Zerox was being extorted and blackmailed and so what happened was an extortion and blackmailing.

EU laws are easily checked online and differ greatly than those in the States. As I am based in the EU and Zerox is in the EU - that is all that matters here. Lauda was involved only to assist an investigation.

I'd like to suggest to everyone here, please refrain from giving your opinions as if they are facts, if you are no expert of international laws, if you are not a lawyer then just stop acting like one.

I think it'll be better for you to ignore me because I don't care about EU laws. I care about bitcointalk which is going to shit as time goes on.

another child on the ignore list - no more message replies - but please read relevant laws before you make brash comments you are uninformed about.

Oh? News flash: this is bitcointalk. Extortion, no matter where you live, is still a big enough reason for you to be considered not trusted by the community.

Check EU law before you talk here - I am in the EU - zerox is in the EU - Trump doesn't rule the world as yet... we have citations to back everything up.

It is. Still an. Extortion.
It doesn't matter if you made a plan for the "ruse" beforehand. It doesn't make you right.
I don't get what kind of "information" is a successful extortion attempt anyway.

So what if I'm alt of Zerox? But I'm not, try again next time.

Haha, accusing me of having another alt again. It's so funny how your accusation process works.

the extortion was a ruse for information... please read all before you quote with more alts Zerox.

That's your excuse? Seriously? Oh geez. RIP bitcointalk.

And why exactly are half of the people here avoiding the extortion attempt and just accuse OP back? It's as if you guys think the extortion attempt will be justified if zeroxal is proven guilty.

Once again, I did not sell any.

Xerox - you broke EU trade laws as well - Selling counterfeit goods is illegal...

The law that you are talking about does not apply to me nor Tman, it also greatly varies depending on where you are located:
Participating in HYIP, especially when you knew it was a botnet (which is illegal by itself) makes you also guilty: https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general/pyramid_schemes
I believe that a similar law is in place in the EU considering their stance has been shifting towards stronger regulations and sanctions in this area.