Topic: TECHSAHRE Calls Flying Hellfish a Rapist (Read 642 times)

I would actually rather have people use their fucking brains and not make blanket false accusatory statements, but seeing as this is BTCT that is obviously not possible...

Would you like a cookie?

At least there are a few reasonable people here.

The guy actually quoted what I "claimed" he said and admits he said it a couple of times and some how FLYING HELLFISH MADE UP HIS EVIDENCE.  smh

PM theymos if you want the fucking logs, but claimingwithout proof or looking at simple facts makes little sense...

You must be a trumptard!

FHF is an good dude despite the sometimes NSFW vocabulary and being a communist

TECSHARE is just a troll. Troll and moderator don't mix. I don't know what that protection thing is.

Very puzzling, the middle quote (the one that now has two links) links to here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47546099 ( http://archive.is/vTvRC ) but all it comes up with is


Which one? Neither comes off looking too bright.

Check this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47557771

The links on the quotes there are different and lead to deleted posts. Not sure what's going on but I doubt it's a conspiracy. Some posts got moved/split/deleted/whatever, some links probably got messed up. You can bet FHF's igloo that if there was any fabrication involved TECSHARE would have pointed that out.

I cant remember where I read this about edits.

If it's edited in the first 5 minutes or something like that it doesn't get the dots indicating the post has been edited.

I dont have time atm to go through it all but i can say with confidence had there been a straight up attempt at deception Techshare would have raised the alarm.

Archived for future reference: http://archive.is/0jBOl#selection-481.0-485.383


The link in the quote is to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47553937 which I just archived over at http://archive.is/0Rw0R#selection-1885.0-1921.193

The actual (unlocked thread) quote is:


Which means Flying Hellfish has fabricated their proof.

Check the archive and the actual posts, none have been modified (otherwise they would have had a line under the date) and yet no-one else picked up on that deception?

Interesting that you feel that way, when an overwhelming majority of users are unable to attain even a single merit. I'd say merit stands as a very valid marker for something positive, at least when considering the time-period that it was introduced. I'm not going to derail this into a conversation about merit, but you're mistaken if you think it is meaningless or close to it.


I don't understand why limiting it to "this" board in particular makes your point anymore coherent. The most merited users are quite the contributors to the community, do you disagree?


You are indeed wrong. There have been many threads, hours of research and curious investigators that have delved into exactly the claim you are making. The findings were that almost all of the merit is sent to people you would not consider to be in that "inner circle".


Care to provide some examples of these members that are being showered in merit for kissing the feet of their lords? You're just dancing with conspiracies for the fun of it at this point.

Have you read through the most recent changes to the trust system? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0;topicseen We do encourage people to examine the facts, make their own decisions and are actively moving our community towards giving them as much power and influence as possible.


You're right, this is not a matter of opinion and the facts are not on your side.


Who are these members that have made the biggest differences, are active on the forums and haven't received significant amounts of merit for their contribution(s)?


Finally, a point that I agree with.  


The main alt discussion board was unusable far before merit was introduced, so the premise of your theory is flawed. Which posters and contributors have left since the introduction of merit, because of the introduction of merit?


There are many tools that can be used for this. This has been done many times and you are not suggesting something new.

For example : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-data-visualization-storytelling-full-interactive-data-3312945

There are dozens more, feel free to use the Search function sometime.

FH: Fix the typo in your title, at least, you goof.   Do you believe he was making a serious accusation or do you believe that this was meant as satire? Whether or not you think it was worthwhile or entertaining is besides the point, because I believe you're able to see as well as I can that it was meant as a hypothetical.

The politics section is where the most bitter feuds are formed over ideas and concepts. Tecshare may disagree with you politically, but if they discuss things in a way that you're unwilling to engage with then maybe don't talk politics with them or ignore them entirely. This just seems like a big miscommunication from an outsider's prospective and coming from someone who likes you both this is not worth the drama.

Not that I am taking sides but merit here means very little.

Give me a list of the top 20 merit awarded persons on this board.

I will believe I will demonstrate clearly that they have done NOTHIING  of  major note on this board in terms of making a big difference in this arena compared to many that have picked up little to no merit. To the point that if they had never been members nothing of note would really be any different here in the slightest.



This is not a mud slinging competition, just a pure analysis to demonstrate most merit is handed out in meta between a tight little group that mostly stick together back slapping each other over having similar points of view or creating some various ways of analysing board mertrics.  This is a pointless waste of merit which should be used to help level up lower rank users who deserve it. This is my suspicion anyway. I could be wrong.


I would praise and value far more highly those that were FIRST to highlight huge scams and spend a lot of time battling with hordes of scammers trying to make these projects seem legitimate and changed the attitudes of 1000's of investors. Or people here who have made huge technical advances in this arena and work hard for the advances in decentralised and trustless projects. Or people that have helped others make vast amounts of money by sharing information non selfishly that they have attained by hours of study and experience trading.


You personally did help me to regain my account so I am not essentially applying this to you (to my knowledge) have not demonstrated a moral compass of questionable accuracy. However the same can not be said for all of those with high merit.

Merit means practically zero here. Most people have no in depth knowledge of this board and the members here and their post/contribution histories. Most people are generally weak and simply get in line with those they perceive to be the most powerful. That leads to centralisation of power and is not in the spirit of this forum. We should encourage people to examine the facts and make their own decisions.

Again this is not a matter of opinion this is a matter of being able to demonstrate the users that have historically made the biggest differences in a positive way are not major merit holders. Therefore there is no direct correlation between merit and respect at all. There is of course different ways to evaluate this.

There is a small clique of users backslapping each other to the point of abusing what the merit system is for to create a faux authority here far from the most notable in this arena.

As for saying those that have accumulated less merit here is indication of less worth/respect is completely wrong.

Merit was introduced I would imagine after and as a result of the board  getting turned into a 99% financial milking cow for the bottom feeders of icos. That have no real conscious interest in seeing the world become more decentralised and trustless... they just want to grab some bucks. This has resulted in the main boards especially the main alt discussion board become unusable for most of the best posters and contributors who seem to have left.

I would call for an analysis tool for the top 100 merit receivers/givers to be examined and see how much this backslapping circle jerking is taking its toll. Actually i think that is my next thing to do.

 

Yes TECSHARE. He thinks scientific theories aren't a big deal. Whenever I read something like that I automatically consider the individual to be mentally inferior.

I don't know about that.  I think the fact that he's demonstrated that he can be trusted with money says a lot and should contribute to the "respect factor" fairly heavily.  Having said that, I don't have a high opinion of him as a forum personality.  I've flown off the handle at members before, but usually I can rein myself back in and I know when to stop, and if I think I've gone too far I will and have offered apologies.  TECSHARE does not know how to de-escalate disagreements or know when to stop. 

As far as the merit is concerned, I think part of that is a function of how active he's been.  For all my distaste for him as a bitcointalk member, he is intelligent and his posts are well-constructed (from the ones I've read, but those have mainly been the ones where he's in full Human Torch mode).  If I'm not mistaken, there have been periods of time where he's been relatively inactive, and it's obviously difficult to earn merits when you're not posting.  He's been a member since 2011 and has "only" 5724 posts. 

Which member are you talking about here?  TECSHARE?  Anyway, it drives me bonkers when I hear people make statements like that.  When I used to visit 9/11 conspiracy theory websites, I'd often hear people referring to proven scientific laws (and I fully understand that they're called theories) as "just a theory".

The guy thinks scientific theories are just ''theories''. You know how smart someone is when he says something like that.

He has collected quite a bit of trust simply for selling items.

But take a look at his merit and you can conclude how respected he is here.  :/

I saw the post and I figured it was a political statement about rape claims, the #metoo movement, or something of the sort.  But you know what?  It wasn't appropriate and not everyone would interpret the accusation as a joke or something other than its face value.

It's amazing to me that TECSHARE was actually on DT at one point.  I've said before that the evidence shows that he's an honest businessman, and I would trust him as a trading partner (not that that's ever going to happen), but he's obviously in raving-lunatic-mode about this situation.  I get the feeling that he's not the type of person who'll let things go until he gets the last word, but he really should just drop this.  Apologizing to Flying Hellfish wouldn't be a bad idea either if he could deflate his ego enough to do so.  Doubt that's going to happen, but it would be the right thing to do.

Yep because the hobo talking to a disconnected phone wasn't a clue. Please.

Not just a joke, but critical satire of your behavior. This was designed to point out how freely you throw around accusations of rape when it serves your political motives, but when it works the other way it is never ending couch fainting and victim hood. Thanks for once again over reacting and clearly demonstrating your hypocrisy.

Tell me more about your jokes, were you joking when you told me I don't have a right to my opinion because I live in a frozen wasteland.

Convenient after you post something it all of a sudden is a joke.

I can say, I have been scammed 14BTC by theymos, HostFat, dooglus, Maged, dserrano5, OgNasty and you (2BTC by each). Will you believe?

No idea man, didn't know theymos was protecting him ever TBH.  I've never even heard of this guy until he came to the P&S and thought he was some big shot who could run the fucking show there.  When I didn't parrot his ideas or do what he wanted he started going off the deep end.