Topic: Temporary Ban for Press Guideline Violators (Read 2703 times)
Simple fixes are better than power abuses. Just make it so that when posting in Press, the first 10 characters are checked for ####-##-## format (simple regex will do). I can do this if theymos doesn't have the time.
Well, let just say I respectively disagree with how moderation should be done.
I have read all the thread and come to the conclusion you're 12, is that right kiba?
Edit: Disregarding that I really hate the US date format, I actually think you do a great job and should keep it up. Follow example of fellow moderators like gayhawk or psy and you can safely ignore badbear
. I PMd theymos to restore your mod for the News sub-forum, let's hope now. Well, let just say I respectively disagree with how moderation should be done.
You won't get people to follow your guidelines with punitive action for minor infractions.
This will only lead to being seen as dictatorial, which people don't deal too well with, especially here.
Instead lead as good example, correct the false formatting and explain to users the benefit of following the guideline. This will in time lead to broader adoption of the guideline. Note I'm talking weeks here not days. People adapt slowly.
This will only lead to being seen as dictatorial, which people don't deal too well with, especially here.
Instead lead as good example, correct the false formatting and explain to users the benefit of following the guideline. This will in time lead to broader adoption of the guideline. Note I'm talking weeks here not days. People adapt slowly.
Yep, this is it right here. I agree with what you want to do Kiba, I just don't agree with how you want to go about it. It will ultimately drive people off this forum or at the very least discourage them from posting in the press section.
The site owner and mod team essentially told me that keeping the particular subsection clean is not a priority or is important to them. They won't help me reduce the number of irregularity events caused by people who don't read the guideline, don't read their own thread, and don't read private messages.
Wait, what? (the bolded part)
Can't talk for others, but whenever I see some problem in the Press forum I try to fix it.
In the last days I deleted/trashed lot's of spam there, sent PM's with warnings to 2 of the worst offenders and requested a ban for 1 user. And you say people won't help you?
You won't get people to follow your guidelines with punitive action for minor infractions.
This will only lead to being seen as dictatorial, which people don't deal too well with, especially here.
Instead lead as good example, correct the false formatting and explain to users the benefit of following the guideline. This will in time lead to broader adoption of the guideline. Note I'm talking weeks here not days. People adapt slowly.
I should offer courses on this for dirty fiat money.
This will only lead to being seen as dictatorial, which people don't deal too well with, especially here.
Instead lead as good example, correct the false formatting and explain to users the benefit of following the guideline. This will in time lead to broader adoption of the guideline. Note I'm talking weeks here not days. People adapt slowly.
I should offer courses on this for dirty fiat money.
This^^ 10000x
You won't get people to follow your guidelines with punitive action for minor infractions.
This will only lead to being seen as dictatorial, which people don't deal too well with, especially here.
Instead lead as good example, correct the false formatting and explain to users the benefit of following the guideline. This will in time lead to broader adoption of the guideline. Note I'm talking weeks here not days. People adapt slowly.
I should offer courses on this for dirty fiat money.
This will only lead to being seen as dictatorial, which people don't deal too well with, especially here.
Instead lead as good example, correct the false formatting and explain to users the benefit of following the guideline. This will in time lead to broader adoption of the guideline. Note I'm talking weeks here not days. People adapt slowly.
I should offer courses on this for dirty fiat money.
Probably would have worked out better had you posted this in the staff section, rather than public, so you could have gotten an answer without the ridicule.
Your task is like herding cats, you will never succeed, but hopefully you can at least help and sucessfully get a few cats following.
Your task is like herding cats, you will never succeed, but hopefully you can at least help and sucessfully get a few cats following.
Did not gain much if anything from ensuring press forum is clean and threads follows the rule of that subsection except for my own satisfaction.
The site owner and mod team essentially told me that keeping the particular subsection clean is not a priority or is important to them. They won't help me reduce the number of irregularity events caused by people who don't read the guideline, don't read their own thread, and don't read private messages.
As I have better thing to do, I might as well just play minecraft and be entertained by this thread.
The site owner and mod team essentially told me that keeping the particular subsection clean is not a priority or is important to them. They won't help me reduce the number of irregularity events caused by people who don't read the guideline, don't read their own thread, and don't read private messages.
As I have better thing to do, I might as well just play minecraft and be entertained by this thread.
Ain't fixing people's shit at the press forum anymore, either as a mod or a regular user.
Could you even fix it without being a Moderator?
If the Moderator title was only intended for people to take you seriously when you scold them about the bad date format, you're doing it wrong... But that's just my opinion.
Ain't fixing people's shit at the press forum anymore, either as a mod or a regular user.
1. Been told that I can't say "NEED DATE FIXING" in the forum thread.
2. Been told to simply quietly correct it.
3. Not getting support to help reduce irregularity in the press forum.
4. Been told that this is only "guideline".
1. Been told that I can't say "NEED DATE FIXING" in the forum thread.
2. Been told to simply quietly correct it.
3. Not getting support to help reduce irregularity in the press forum.
4. Been told that this is only "guideline".
OK, some people don't handle mod jobs well.
Ain't fixing people's shit at the press forum anymore, either as a mod or a regular user.
Are you 12? Sure seems like it from your reaction here.
Ain't fixing people's shit at the press forum anymore, either as a mod or a regular user.
1. Been told that I can't say "NEED DATE FIXING" in the forum thread.
2. Been told to simply quietly correct it.
3. Not getting support to help reduce irregularity in the press forum.
4. Been told that this is only "guideline".
1. Been told that I can't say "NEED DATE FIXING" in the forum thread.
2. Been told to simply quietly correct it.
3. Not getting support to help reduce irregularity in the press forum.
4. Been told that this is only "guideline".
Nobody is perfect, every mod goes a little too far at first. It's a seesaw.until you find the right equilibrium.
This is the kind of dumb shit I do ban for, fuck off.
you act like u have a lot of experience gayhawk
This is the kind of dumb shit I do ban for, fuck off.
you act like u have a lot of experience gayhawk
Kinda, I've been a moderator and/or moderation staff team leader on forums of this size or bigger for the last 5 years.
No, those go through theymos still, like I said. Not gonna shove it off on him just because he actually pushed it through. I take responsibility for my actions.
Nobody is perfect, every mod goes a little too far at first. It's a seesaw.until you find the right equilibrium.
This is the kind of dumb shit I do ban for, fuck off.
you act like u have a lot of experience gayhawk
This is the kind of dumb shit I do ban for, fuck off.
did not know you could ban. wow, i thought only admins had that power...
Global mods can ban anyone, usually only used for spammers, phishers and the like. Been that way for 3 or 4 months, since the run up to 100+. Bans for other reasons are still supposed to go through theymos. Local mods can ban newbie status members only.
global mods can ban
Nobody is perfect, every mod goes a little too far at first. It's a seesaw.until you find the right equilibrium.
This is the kind of dumb shit I do ban for, fuck off.
you act like u have a lot of experience gayhawk
This is the kind of dumb shit I do ban for, fuck off.
I think those who don't understand a clear warning in the form of a reply or a PM from moderator, should get atleast writing lock (can only write PM) for a few days. Or maybe get banned from the Press for a while.
A short ban doesn't hurt.. but might open eyes
A short ban doesn't hurt.. but might open eyes
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