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Quote from: dittoup on November 26, 2021, 01:49:45 AM

I actually read a article yesterday where it was claimed that Djoko has now decided to get the jab and are going to get vaccinated in time for AO.

Happy to see he decided to get the jab so we can enjoy his presence next year too. Would be astonishing if the worlds best tennis player decided to put his career on hold over such a reason.

Oh really? that's good news for his fans, and bad news for his competitor as for sure he will enter the AO to start the year.

Ok here is the article I've seen:

https://www.insider.com/novak-djokovic-will-get-vaccinated-before-australian-open-boss-says-2021-11

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Craig Tiley, the head of the Australian Open called out Novak Djokovic and seemingly attempted to goad him into getting vaccinated against COVID-19 by saying the tennis star "will not want to miss" his shot at a record 21st Grand Slam.

Yeah, he has a good record in AO so it's really necessary for him to get the jab so that he can compete and probably have a good chance to win next year. I guess it's the right decision for him.

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I actually read a article yesterday where it was claimed that Djoko has now decided to get the jab and are going to get vaccinated in time for AO.

Happy to see he decided to get the jab so we can enjoy his presence next year too. Would be astonishing if the worlds best tennis player decided to put his career on hold over such a reason.

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Quote from: Trofo on November 25, 2021, 05:17:23 AM

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The Davis Cup will take place tomorrow after being postponed the previous year, Spain as defending champions will be without Nadal who has announced the end this year in August due to injury.

Yeah, but Spain will have the young and upcoming Alcaraz to carry them. Spain will start against Ecuador so I think they can win this one. They also have Carreno-Busta and Albert Vinolas so still a solid team for them.

Can't wait for Davis cup, still not used to new rules but it should mean we have fast matches and a lot of drama. Alcaraz should be good for Spain but he is still not Nadal, and has almost no experience but that is somewhat easier to overcame when you have your captain on the bench with you.

Rooting for my Croatia and we should be going trough as long as Cilic can beat opponents 2nd player. We have best doubles in the world with Mektić/Pavić and no second player to speak of. So it should come down to Cilic results. Good thing he found some semblances of form towards the end of the season.

I think this will really be a big test for Alcaraz, yes he is not Nadal, but he is touted to be the next one so we will see. Regular tournaments and Davis Cup are very different matches, and as you have said, there is a lot of drama in here.

Yeah, Croatia is still a very good team, Cilic has been playing above lately and he just peak in this Davis Cup. I'm not familiar with doubles though, but Mektić/Pavić are sho-in.

As far as Djokovic getting the vaccine jab? Nah, I don't think so, I remember that he is against it and then he contacted the virus. But he didn't get any of it but just decided to be quarantine.

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Quote from: Joca97 on November 25, 2021, 05:28:48 PM

Djokovic in early days was really against Covid and it will be difficult to see him get vaccinated. But he has an amazing chance of making more records if he plays AO and i think he should get get vaccinated and go and win it. I think Serbia has amazing chances to win Davis cup this year with Djokovic

Who are other players for Serbia this year? I don't think there is a good second player or double combination. Djokovic is a beast and he will get his point but he can only play one match, who will bring that second point to Serbia? Is Zimonjić still playing doubles or has he retired? Who is playing singles Lajović or Krajinović? Troicki still in team?

I don't see them winning against first proper opponent, except for that customary Djokovic point which is a slam dunk.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 25, 2021, 01:23:55 AM

Djokovic will still be very likely to win GS and AO is his favorite GS, his stats here are very good, and because he has always wanted to make history, the vaccine rules won't stop him from going to AO.

The Davis Cup will take place tomorrow after being postponed the previous year, Spain as defending champions will be without Nadal who has announced the end this year in August due to injury.

Djokovic in early days was really against Covid and it will be difficult to see him get vaccinated. But he has an amazing chance of making more records if he plays AO and i think he should get get vaccinated and go and win it. I think Serbia has amazing chances to win Davis cup this year with Djokovic

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Davis cup starts today, I'm trying to get up to speed with the timetable and who is playing who.

I normally watch Tennis on Amazon Prime but I dont see ant Davis Cup matches listed.

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/davis-cup-finals-2021-schedule-format-history

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Thursday, 25 November: 4pm, one tie in Group B, Group C, Group D

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Madrid Arena, Madrid, Spain:
Group A: Spain, Russia Tennis Federation, Ecuador
Group B: Canada, Kazakhstan, Sweden
Olympia-Halle, Innsbruck, Austria:
Group C: France, Great Britain, Czech Republic
Group F: Serbia, Germany, Austria

Pala Alpitour, Turin, Italy:
Group D: Croatia, Australia, Hungary
Group E: United States, Italy, Colombia

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Quote from: Jating on November 25, 2021, 03:46:49 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on November 25, 2021, 01:23:55 AM

The Davis Cup will take place tomorrow after being postponed the previous year, Spain as defending champions will be without Nadal who has announced the end this year in August due to injury.

Yeah, but Spain will have the young and upcoming Alcaraz to carry them. Spain will start against Ecuador so I think they can win this one. They also have Carreno-Busta and Albert Vinolas so still a solid team for them.

Can't wait for Davis cup, still not used to new rules but it should mean we have fast matches and a lot of drama. Alcaraz should be good for Spain but he is still not Nadal, and has almost no experience but that is somewhat easier to overcame when you have your captain on the bench with you.

Rooting for my Croatia and we should be going trough as long as Cilic can beat opponents 2nd player. We have best doubles in the world with Mektić/Pavić and no second player to speak of. So it should come down to Cilic results. Good thing he found some semblances of form towards the end of the season.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 25, 2021, 01:23:55 AM

Djokovic will still be very likely to win GS and AO is his favorite GS, his stats here are very good, and because he has always wanted to make history, the vaccine rules won't stop him from going to AO.

True, that's one thing for sure that Djokovic has targeted next year, to win another GS and have his name in the history. We know how mentally tough Djokovic and he won't simply be deny of another GS while he still can play high level tennis.

Quote from: Strongkored on November 25, 2021, 01:23:55 AM

The Davis Cup will take place tomorrow after being postponed the previous year, Spain as defending champions will be without Nadal who has announced the end this year in August due to injury.

Yeah, but Spain will have the young and upcoming Alcaraz to carry them. Spain will start against Ecuador so I think they can win this one. They also have Carreno-Busta and Albert Vinolas so still a solid team for them.

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Djokovic will still be very likely to win GS and AO is his favorite GS, his stats here are very good, and because he has always wanted to make history, the vaccine rules won't stop him from going to AO.

The Davis Cup will take place tomorrow after being postponed the previous year, Spain as defending champions will be without Nadal who has announced the end this year in August due to injury.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on November 24, 2021, 06:02:11 AM

Following the decision of the Australian authorities that unvaccinated tennis players cannot play at the Australia GS, it seems to me that Djokovic will most likely not play in Australia, given that his negative attitude towards vaccination is well known.
Due to such an attitude, Djokovic could very quickly lose his first place in the tennis rankings, but also lose the opportunity to win a record 21 GS in his career and achieve tennis immortality.
Medvedev and Zverev are getting better and more experienced tennis players every day and Djokovic, Nadal and Federer are getting older and more injured, and their chances of winning the new GS are decreasing day by day.

While I am not a fan of Djokovic, I think the chances are pretty high that he will reach the record of most GS in his career. He is only 34 years so he has still some years left (same for Nadal also). The young generation is coming up strong (Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem, Tsitsipas,...) and they have proven that they can win against Djokovic but I don't think they are able to dominate all the time.

He only need one win right to become the winningest player in tennis history. I think he still have some in his tank to stop this young generation from creeping in his number one ranking.

I think he can still win 1-2 in his career or more, not unless he really suddenly gets old overtime which I doubt because you can see that there is still that competitive fire burning inside of him. And as long as he still on the circuit, it might take some time for the young players to beat him.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on November 24, 2021, 06:02:11 AM

Following the decision of the Australian authorities that unvaccinated tennis players cannot play at the Australia GS, it seems to me that Djokovic will most likely not play in Australia, given that his negative attitude towards vaccination is well known.
Due to such an attitude, Djokovic could very quickly lose his first place in the tennis rankings, but also lose the opportunity to win a record 21 GS in his career and achieve tennis immortality.
Medvedev and Zverev are getting better and more experienced tennis players every day and Djokovic, Nadal and Federer are getting older and more injured, and their chances of winning the new GS are decreasing day by day.

While I am not a fan of Djokovic, I think the chances are pretty high that he will reach the record of most GS in his career. He is only 34 years so he has still some years left (same for Nadal also). The young generation is coming up strong (Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem, Tsitsipas,...) and they have proven that they can win against Djokovic but I don't think they are able to dominate all the time.

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The great results they have achieved this year, and next year it will be very possible to see all three face each other in major tournaments, some names who are also very likely to compete, Tsitsipas at RG because this is his favorite surface and Berrettini at wimbledon.

yeah, Zverev won over Djokovic another time, after Olympics, and this will increase his confidence, and AO is definitely right place for him, since hard court is great for his play
on the other side, AO is Djokovic field, he has most wins there, so losing that one could brought him down for next season, and from no.1 as well, high stake tournament, and could be good to watch

Following the decision of the Australian authorities that unvaccinated tennis players cannot play at the Australia GS, it seems to me that Djokovic will most likely not play in Australia, given that his negative attitude towards vaccination is well known.
Due to such an attitude, Djokovic could very quickly lose his first place in the tennis rankings, but also lose the opportunity to win a record 21 GS in his career and achieve tennis immortality.
Medvedev and Zverev are getting better and more experienced tennis players every day and Djokovic, Nadal and Federer are getting older and more injured, and their chances of winning the new GS are decreasing day by day.

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My friend had bet big on Zverev. He watched every match of his and how consistently he was improving. There was no way I would have bet against Medvedev. Props to him for his amazing read.

It isn't that easy to read a player to this extend. Myself placed bet over Medvedev. In the previous match between Djokovic and Zverev, my bet was on Zverev. On the final match my bet was on Medvedev. In this entire tournament the performance from Medvedev and Zverev is really awesome and some are unexpected. Probably these two gonna rule the upcoming tennis tournaments.

then I am the one out of all who got it right, since I made a bet on Zverev to beat Djokovic live, before the start of the third set, and I also made bet in the final on Sacha to win but unfortunately I lost in a parlay, I feel like I am starting to see how things are going in Tennis, or it could be just pure luck Sad

I have to say it was a really good final. Sure the first set was a bit tentative and tight from both players, especially Medvedev, but that second set was the best set of the tournament. It really shows how much that break of serve was important in the second set cause it cost Medvedev the match. In my eyes it was looking a lot like a repeat of last years final where Thiem failed to capitalize but this year it was different. Zverev was simply unstoppable. He wasn't about to let Medvedev find another gear, he didn't give him the time. And more importantly he raised his own level today. A great way to end the year. But this raises a question for Medvedev. A guy who rarely gets outplayed ever got outplayed two times in the last month. A guy who always looks like he has the answers couldn't find any in his last two finals. Could this be the peak for Medvedev? After all he won a slam. Mentally is he there to do it all over again? And if you think I'm crazy let's just remember where Thiem is now, after losing the final of this exact tournament last year. It isn't inconcievable that Medvedev needs a bit of a break. To mentally recharge himself. Hopefully his hunger and motivation is still there. It will be a really interesting 2022, that's all I'll say.

I believe you’re right that Zverev played way better than he plays, but the big question is will he play consistently like he did in such good form or will he fizzle out in 2022?.

Also it’s too early to say about Medvedev, and we can only make some conclusions after we see how he deals in pressure situations like these in 2022.

Both should remain consistent, at least that's how I see it based on their performance for this year. And it seems that Zverev has really improved a lot as well same with Medvedev but I think Zverev game really pop up this year specially in the last tournament we just had.

There's still a lot of tournament though, but I see no names, so I might skip betting on tennis games for now. And will wait for next year and hopefully we will have a good matches like this year.

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My friend had bet big on Zverev. He watched every match of his and how consistently he was improving. There was no way I would have bet against Medvedev. Props to him for his amazing read.

It isn't that easy to read a player to this extend. Myself placed bet over Medvedev. In the previous match between Djokovic and Zverev, my bet was on Zverev. On the final match my bet was on Medvedev. In this entire tournament the performance from Medvedev and Zverev is really awesome and some are unexpected. Probably these two gonna rule the upcoming tennis tournaments.

then I am the one out of all who got it right, since I made a bet on Zverev to beat Djokovic live, before the start of the third set, and I also made bet in the final on Sacha to win but unfortunately I lost in a parlay, I feel like I am starting to see how things are going in Tennis, or it could be just pure luck Sad

I have to say it was a really good final. Sure the first set was a bit tentative and tight from both players, especially Medvedev, but that second set was the best set of the tournament. It really shows how much that break of serve was important in the second set cause it cost Medvedev the match. In my eyes it was looking a lot like a repeat of last years final where Thiem failed to capitalize but this year it was different. Zverev was simply unstoppable. He wasn't about to let Medvedev find another gear, he didn't give him the time. And more importantly he raised his own level today. A great way to end the year. But this raises a question for Medvedev. A guy who rarely gets outplayed ever got outplayed two times in the last month. A guy who always looks like he has the answers couldn't find any in his last two finals. Could this be the peak for Medvedev? After all he won a slam. Mentally is he there to do it all over again? And if you think I'm crazy let's just remember where Thiem is now, after losing the final of this exact tournament last year. It isn't inconcievable that Medvedev needs a bit of a break. To mentally recharge himself. Hopefully his hunger and motivation is still there. It will be a really interesting 2022, that's all I'll say.

I believe you’re right that Zverev played way better than he plays, but the big question is will he play consistently like he did in such good form or will he fizzle out in 2022?.

Also it’s too early to say about Medvedev, and we can only make some conclusions after we see how he deals in pressure situations like these in 2022.

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My friend had bet big on Zverev. He watched every match of his and how consistently he was improving. There was no way I would have bet against Medvedev. Props to him for his amazing read.

It isn't that easy to read a player to this extend. Myself placed bet over Medvedev. In the previous match between Djokovic and Zverev, my bet was on Zverev. On the final match my bet was on Medvedev. In this entire tournament the performance from Medvedev and Zverev is really awesome and some are unexpected. Probably these two gonna rule the upcoming tennis tournaments.

then I am the one out of all who got it right, since I made a bet on Zverev to beat Djokovic live, before the start of the third set, and I also made bet in the final on Sacha to win but unfortunately I lost in a parlay, I feel like I am starting to see how things are going in Tennis, or it could be just pure luck Sad

I have to say it was a really good final. Sure the first set was a bit tentative and tight from both players, especially Medvedev, but that second set was the best set of the tournament. It really shows how much that break of serve was important in the second set cause it cost Medvedev the match. In my eyes it was looking a lot like a repeat of last years final where Thiem failed to capitalize but this year it was different. Zverev was simply unstoppable. He wasn't about to let Medvedev find another gear, he didn't give him the time. And more importantly he raised his own level today. A great way to end the year. But this raises a question for Medvedev. A guy who rarely gets outplayed ever got outplayed two times in the last month. A guy who always looks like he has the answers couldn't find any in his last two finals. Could this be the peak for Medvedev? After all he won a slam. Mentally is he there to do it all over again? And if you think I'm crazy let's just remember where Thiem is now, after losing the final of this exact tournament last year. It isn't inconcievable that Medvedev needs a bit of a break. To mentally recharge himself. Hopefully his hunger and motivation is still there. It will be a really interesting 2022, that's all I'll say.

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^^ Hopefully Thiem can come back next year, he was really next in line as I thought amongst the young breed, Dominic has the most chances to become the top seed, unfortunately, last year was a bad year for him.

Zverev though has the momentum with this big win against Djokovic and then Medvedev and for sure he will carry this one next year for another good run. So I'm looking for the next gen to win many tournaments and maybe steal grand slams from Djokovic again.

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Zverev ended the season well, I predict the final will be the same as the first round they met so confidently placed a bet at over 22.5 but Zverev was able to finish it in 2 straight sets, and broke 5 consecutive losses to Medvedev.
Djokovic's dominance slowly began to be replaced, AO 2022 is not an easy thing for him to be able to defend his title or his target to take all GS tittle in 2022, might be he still able to add more GS tiitle between 1-2 in 2022.

Both Zverev and Medvedev beat Djokovic this year so it proves that these younger
players are getting closer to claiming the #1 spot and challenging each other for
it on a regular basis, I think the dominance of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic is over,
yes Djokovic still has some GS that he can win but the challenge is bigger already for 2022.

The great results they have achieved this year, and next year it will be very possible to see all three face each other in major tournaments, some names who are also very likely to compete, Tsitsipas at RG because this is his favorite surface and Berrettini at wimbledon.

Absolutely, we have to consider the current top 10 as challengers to climb higher
or defend their positions. We can also factor in Dominic Thiem to make a comeback
and also we will be watching Carlos Alcaraz in 2022, great things are expected from him.

Yeah, I'm also excited to see Dominic Thiem come out next year and insert his name in the discussion again to challenge the big 3 or at least Djokovic in the top 1. It's just sad that he got injured in this very exciting season this year. Alcaraz, Sinner is also improving and could be a big threat as well to land in the top 5. So Medvedev, Zverev and Tsitsipas still on the top 3 but we have a lot of challengers as well. So I'm looking for a good 2022 with a lot of names trying to position themselves and winning tournaments.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 23, 2021, 02:26:02 AM

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The great results they have achieved this year, and next year it will be very possible to see all three face each other in major tournaments, some names who are also very likely to compete, Tsitsipas at RG because this is his favorite surface and Berrettini at wimbledon.

yeah, Zverev won over Djokovic another time, after Olympics, and this will increase his confidence, and AO is definitely right place for him, since hard court is great for his play
on the other side, AO is Djokovic field, he has most wins there, so losing that one could brought him down for next season, and from no.1 as well, high stake tournament, and could be good to watch

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Zverev ended the season well, I predict the final will be the same as the first round they met so confidently placed a bet at over 22.5 but Zverev was able to finish it in 2 straight sets, and broke 5 consecutive losses to Medvedev.
Djokovic's dominance slowly began to be replaced, AO 2022 is not an easy thing for him to be able to defend his title or his target to take all GS tittle in 2022, might be he still able to add more GS tiitle between 1-2 in 2022.

Both Zverev and Medvedev beat Djokovic this year so it proves that these younger
players are getting closer to claiming the #1 spot and challenging each other for
it on a regular basis, I think the dominance of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic is over,
yes Djokovic still has some GS that he can win but the challenge is bigger already for 2022.

The great results they have achieved this year, and next year it will be very possible to see all three face each other in major tournaments, some names who are also very likely to compete, Tsitsipas at RG because this is his favorite surface and Berrettini at wimbledon.

Absolutely, we have to consider the current top 10 as challengers to climb higher
or defend their positions. We can also factor in Dominic Thiem to make a comeback
and also we will be watching Carlos Alcaraz in 2022, great things are expected from him.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 22, 2021, 02:02:39 AM

Quote from: Strongkored on November 22, 2021, 12:20:48 AM

Zverev ended the season well, I predict the final will be the same as the first round they met so confidently placed a bet at over 22.5 but Zverev was able to finish it in 2 straight sets, and broke 5 consecutive losses to Medvedev.
Djokovic's dominance slowly began to be replaced, AO 2022 is not an easy thing for him to be able to defend his title or his target to take all GS tittle in 2022, might be he still able to add more GS tiitle between 1-2 in 2022.

Both Zverev and Medvedev beat Djokovic this year so it proves that these younger
players are getting closer to claiming the #1 spot and challenging each other for
it on a regular basis, I think the dominance of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic is over,
yes Djokovic still has some GS that he can win but the challenge is bigger already for 2022.

The great results they have achieved this year, and next year it will be very possible to see all three face each other in major tournaments, some names who are also very likely to compete, Tsitsipas at RG because this is his favorite surface and Berrettini at wimbledon.

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