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November 18, 2021, 04:12:23 PM
Medvedev vs Sinner: Tricky game to choose from. Medvedev is in decent form but the match being held at Sinner's home country while he was very good against Hurkacz. I still would go for Medvedev to win.. but for the odds provided. Doesn't seem worth it for me.
Well he won first set 6:0, but I would still not take those odds even if I knew this beforehand. He does not need the win so anything can happen, especially since Sinner is playing in front of a home crowd.  I have actually put a small bet on Sinner after he lost first set 6:0, got odds @10, not gonna come but I could not resist.
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November 18, 2021, 02:15:34 PM
Medvedev vs Sinner: Tricky game to choose from. Medvedev is in decent form but the match being held at Sinner's home country while he was very good against Hurkacz. I still would go for Medvedev to win.. but for the odds provided. Doesn't seem worth it for me.

Hurkacz kind of let the pressure from the audience get to him, if there is anyone who
can deal with a negative audience its Medvedev but this will be interesting because
everyone will be 101% for Sinner, I believe he is more popular with Italian supporters
than Berrettini, so my wife tells me anyway.
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November 18, 2021, 12:56:07 PM
Medvedev vs Sinner: Tricky game to choose from. Medvedev is in decent form but the match being held at Sinner's home country while he was very good against Hurkacz. I still would go for Medvedev to win.. but for the odds provided. Doesn't seem worth it for me.
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November 18, 2021, 11:04:17 AM
Of course, we all know that Tennis is as much psychology as it is fitness and skill,
anyone going out against Djokovic needs to be pumped up 200%.

This is certainly true. And as an additional difficulty, Djokovic is fitter and more skilful than anyone else out there. I do think the only player who can really beat Djokovic is Djokovic himself, which is what I think we saw in the US Open final. Medvedev is the closest challenger, and will sometimes have a chance... but no-one else really has any chance at all, if Djokovic turns up fully motivated and in the right frame of mind.
It is no coincidence that he is number 1 for so long. He is the most complete player out there and what is more important, he gets to the later stages of tournaments even when he is playing well below his best. Nobody else has that ability to win on bad days.

I hate last day of group stages in this tournament since there is a lot of calculations going on and you never know who will play seriously. For instance Granolles/Zabalos did not need a win this morning and they are already 1:0 down. My money will probably go on Zverev to win 2:0 later on, since Hurkacz was terrible against Sinner and maybe on Dodig/Polasek to create an upset against Mektic/Pavic. Odds are very good @2.7 and this match is 50:50 for me.


Well in the last day of the group stage things in singles are going as expected. Zverev won easily 2-0 against Hurkacz and in that group everything is finished. But in doubles Granollers/Zaballos lost unexpectedly in the tie break in the third set.I think Metkic/Pavic must win this match they are also world number #1.
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November 18, 2021, 08:53:11 AM
Federer is on the cusp of forty and is still fighting injuries in order to return to the fields.
He knows that he left a void that will never be filled, neither ranked first nor second nor tenth, because Federer is tennis in itself, even if they rank him a hundred.
he got a wrist that is imaginary, and his touch is exceptional for him alone.
that is why he was toppling opponents even when he was old and his children were closer to puberty.
How can this ball not grieve when it realizes that its master has prolonged absence, no, rather He may not come back again.
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November 18, 2021, 06:44:18 AM
Of course, we all know that Tennis is as much psychology as it is fitness and skill,
anyone going out against Djokovic needs to be pumped up 200%.

This is certainly true. And as an additional difficulty, Djokovic is fitter and more skilful than anyone else out there. I do think the only player who can really beat Djokovic is Djokovic himself, which is what I think we saw in the US Open final. Medvedev is the closest challenger, and will sometimes have a chance... but no-one else really has any chance at all, if Djokovic turns up fully motivated and in the right frame of mind.
It is no coincidence that he is number 1 for so long. He is the most complete player out there and what is more important, he gets to the later stages of tournaments even when he is playing well below his best. Nobody else has that ability to win on bad days.

I hate last day of group stages in this tournament since there is a lot of calculations going on and you never know who will play seriously. For instance Granolles/Zabalos did not need a win this morning and they are already 1:0 down. My money will probably go on Zverev to win 2:0 later on, since Hurkacz was terrible against Sinner and maybe on Dodig/Polasek to create an upset against Mektic/Pavic. Odds are very good @2.7 and this match is 50:50 for me.
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November 18, 2021, 05:25:49 AM
Of course, we all know that Tennis is as much psychology as it is fitness and skill,
anyone going out against Djokovic needs to be pumped up 200%.

This is certainly true. And as an additional difficulty, Djokovic is fitter and more skilful than anyone else out there. I do think the only player who can really beat Djokovic is Djokovic himself, which is what I think we saw in the US Open final. Medvedev is the closest challenger, and will sometimes have a chance... but no-one else really has any chance at all, if Djokovic turns up fully motivated and in the right frame of mind.
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November 18, 2021, 04:17:08 AM

In the womens WTA Final (which I havent been following) Muguruza beat Kontaveit in 2 sets.
This is massive for her, she has had very mixed results in the last number of years,
are we seeing some sort of comeback?


For me, this is also a big surprise because she has not been anywhere for a long time, and we have already forgotten about this tennis player.
Here is a brief overview of her career from Wikipedia:

2   Career
2.1   2012
2.2   2013
2.3   2014: First WTA title, steady results & rise in doubles
2.4   2015: First Grand Slam final & top 10 in doubles, WTA finals debut
2.5   2016: French Open champion and world No. 2
2.6   2017: Wimbledon crown and world No. 1
2.7   2018: Mixed results, out of top 10
2.8   2019: Continued struggles, out of top 30
2.9   2020: Return to form, first Australian Open final
2.10   2021: Return to top 3, WTA Finals champion

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbi%C3%B1e_Muguruza

She has been in a major crisis but is apparently slowly returning to the top of tennis.
I loved watching her before as a tennis player and I am glad that she is back and that we are watching her again in the finals of the biggest tennis tournaments.
In women's tennis, after Serena dropped out of the top due to age, we no longer have a champion who would be dominant, like the big three in men's tennis.
We have a new winner in almost every women's tournament and I think that's why women's tennis has become quite interesting lately.

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November 18, 2021, 02:33:29 AM
^
oh yes, definitely a close one coming up between Medvedev and Sinner purely
based on Sinner's performance against Hurkacz last time out. I cannot call the winner
of this one and I dont know which of my 2 favourite players I want to win.

Last nights game between Norrie and Ruud was a 3 setter, Norrie comprehensively
winning the first set (which I saw) but Ruud recvovered to win the following 2.



In the womens WTA Final (which I havent been following) Muguruza beat Kontaveit in 2 sets.
This is massive for her, she has had very mixed results in the last number of years,
are we seeing some sort of comeback?
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November 18, 2021, 02:20:08 AM
Djokovic vs Rublev - I think another 3 sets here? or go over? @1.92 odds, very attractive, but if Djokovic started hot early, this might end in just 2 sets? What do you guys think?

Three sets might be attractive, but Djokovic just blasted Rublev in two.

Rublev favours this surface but we all know that Djokovic can really adapt at any or even adjust his style in the middle of the game, so really hard to bet on this one, maybe I will try to see the game first if I have the time and just do some live betting.

It seems that the pressure is on Rublev, he has committed a lot of mistakes which he usually doesn't make when playing. And I would say it really has something to do with facing the top seed Djokovic. But give credit to Djokovic, he really played very well, covering the length of the court.

Yes, I know, I was totally wrong with my analysis, I thought the game will be extended to 3 sets as usually Djokovic starts very slow regardless on who he is facing. And I think the Rublev is really good at this fast surface, but he really looks nervous in this game.

Maybe it's time to recover from that lost and look for the Zverev vs Hurkacz, or Medvedev vs Sinner.

I would say that Medvedev vs Sinner will be a close one, and I will go Over on this.
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November 18, 2021, 01:52:45 AM
Today Zverev vs Hurkacz, Zverev has to win if he wants to be in the semi-finals, so it looks like he will really fight from the start, looking at Hurkacz's performance against Sinner it seems he is the weakest in this group and I choose under in his match against Zverev and also under on Medvedev vs Sinner.
I agree, it seems that the pressure will be on Zrevev to win.

But he will be facing the weakest amongst the player here so he has a high chance to take this and advance. Nothing against Hurkacz, but he might be overwhelmed in this tournament that's why his performance is questionable.

Under 22.5 total is very attractive bet here.
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November 18, 2021, 01:40:50 AM
Today Zverev vs Hurkacz, Zverev has to win if he wants to be in the semi-finals, so it looks like he will really fight from the start, looking at Hurkacz's performance against Sinner it seems he is the weakest in this group and I choose under in his match against Zverev and also under on Medvedev vs Sinner.
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November 17, 2021, 05:32:48 PM
Djokovic vs Rublev - I think another 3 sets here? or go over? @1.92 odds, very attractive, but if Djokovic started hot early, this might end in just 2 sets? What do you guys think?

Three sets might be attractive, but Djokovic just blasted Rublev in two.

Rublev favours this surface but we all know that Djokovic can really adapt at any or even adjust his style in the middle of the game, so really hard to bet on this one, maybe I will try to see the game first if I have the time and just do some live betting.

It seems that the pressure is on Rublev, he has committed a lot of mistakes which he usually doesn't make when playing. And I would say it really has something to do with facing the top seed Djokovic. But give credit to Djokovic, he really played very well, covering the length of the court.
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November 17, 2021, 03:36:14 PM
~snip

Rublev +2.5 games in 1.set @1.75, this one should be almost free money, especially if Rublev starts on serve
Rublev to get at least a set @2.12
Rublev to win 2:0 @8.6

Djoko decided to completely crash you Sad
he was motivated from the beginning, maybe because he saw that Rublev played great in first match, so did not want to give him head start

was not watching the match, due to work, but looking at comments and statistics, Rublev was bad, to many errors, and Djokovic proved that he is best on return service

Not even close, not sure if he is motivated, but it seems that Djokovic finds hi rhythm early and dictated everything from the beginning and no allowing Rublev to settle and have his game here.

And the unforced errors, just too many and Djokovic is capitalising on it. And after the interview, Rublev admits that he is rushing and overthinking during the Djokovic match, talk about the psychological war that this players are going before and during the match.

Casper Ruud vs Norrie, Norrie leading the first set at 4-1, I think he could win this match.
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November 17, 2021, 02:21:55 PM
Norrie vs Ruud. It should be an easy win for Ruud. There's nothing special that Norrie does with his game. Just puts the ball in play and serve well. Ruud does that and is a better all round player with higher caliber.
Ruud has already beaten Norrie this month with the scoreline of 6-0, 6-2 in San Diego. I don't expect a repeat of that scoreline but I do expect Ruud to wrap up the match in straight sets. Great odds provided at the moment. Pounce on it while you can. Good Luck all. 

I think you are right in regards to Ruud winning this match but Norrie is in the top
20 on merit, he is a decent player and has had good results this year, I wouldnt
be that negative to him.



Djoko decided to completely crash you Sad
he was motivated from the beginning, maybe because he saw that Rublev played great in first match, so did not want to give him head start

was not watching the match, due to work, but looking at comments and statistics, Rublev was bad, to many errors, and Djokovic proved that he is best on return service
This was their first meeting and Rublev did not believe. I expected that it will be tougher for Djokovic to adapt to Rublev game but I did not hear about Rublev interview before the match. He said that he will be lucky if gets few games in the match against the best player ever. You can't get out on the pitch with that attitude against Djokovic. What is worse Djokovic played well bellow his maximum, he did not need anything more against Rublev who was making unforced errors all the time.

Of course, we all know that Tennis is as much psychology as it is fitness and skill,
anyone going out against Djokovic needs to be pumped up 200%.
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November 17, 2021, 01:50:52 PM
Djoko decided to completely crash you Sad
he was motivated from the beginning, maybe because he saw that Rublev played great in first match, so did not want to give him head start

was not watching the match, due to work, but looking at comments and statistics, Rublev was bad, to many errors, and Djokovic proved that he is best on return service
This was their first meeting and Rublev did not believe. I expected that it will be tougher for Djokovic to adapt to Rublev game but I did not hear about Rublev interview before the match. He said that he will be lucky if gets few games in the match against the best player ever. You can't get out on the pitch with that attitude against Djokovic. What is worse Djokovic played well bellow his maximum, he did not need anything more against Rublev who was making unforced errors all the time.
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November 17, 2021, 01:45:20 PM
~snip

Rublev +2.5 games in 1.set @1.75, this one should be almost free money, especially if Rublev starts on serve
Rublev to get at least a set @2.12
Rublev to win 2:0 @8.6

Djoko decided to completely crash you Sad
he was motivated from the beginning, maybe because he saw that Rublev played great in first match, so did not want to give him head start

was not watching the match, due to work, but looking at comments and statistics, Rublev was bad, to many errors, and Djokovic proved that he is best on return service
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November 17, 2021, 12:59:55 PM
Norrie vs Ruud. It should be an easy win for Ruud. There's nothing special that Norrie does with his game. Just puts the ball in play and serve well. Ruud does that and is a better all round player with higher caliber.
Ruud has already beaten Norrie this month with the scoreline of 6-0, 6-2 in San Diego. I don't expect a repeat of that scoreline but I do expect Ruud to wrap up the match in straight sets. Great odds provided at the moment. Pounce on it while you can. Good Luck all. 
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November 17, 2021, 07:55:07 AM
I'm just watching a doubles match waiting for Sinner v Hurkacz.  Pity for Matteo
to pull out but it was kind of expected, pressure on now on Sinner.
Doubles passed as expected with win for Dodig/Polasek, they were better troughout the whole match. Now I am gonna reinvest my tennis part of my tennis winnings on Hurkacz. Hopefully he will get first set for free while Sinner gets used to conditions. Sportsbet has him @2.10 and one set @1.45. I hope Sinner is not prepared for this but somehow I doubt it. It is his home tournament and it was expected that Berettini will not be able to compete.

To bad Pavic/Mektic did not play better, would be even more money in the bank Smiley
https://i.imgur.com/Kldyojq.png

Edit: what a loss of money. I am usually not bitching when I loose the bet but this performance from Hurkazcs was simply terrible. Without any fire and ideas. He played just to keep the ball in play and still made a ton of errors.

What a super win by Sinner and a terrible performance by Hurkacz, he really play
within himself while Sinner was really up for it with the audience with him.
I didnt bet on that game, I thought it was going to be Hurkacz to win but
wasnt sure.



Djokovic v Rublev, I think I will put a small bet on Rublev to win and one to win
one set at least. He really does need to bring the A+ game today.
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November 17, 2021, 07:20:29 AM

It all depends on the start from Rublev, if he enters the match hitting all those early shots he has a good fighting chance and even solid chance to win. Just placing some bets and they are all on Rublev. If he starts badly though, I'll lose all of them since I don't see any way for Rublev to turn the match if he does not start good.
My bets arranged by the stake size:
Rublev +2.5 games in 1.set @1.75, this one should be almost free money, especially if Rublev starts on serve
Rublev to get at least a set @2.12
Rublev to win 2:0 @8.6

Everything can happen in tennis so there is no such thing as free money, but there is quite some value in your bets; especially the first 2 bets. I don't think Rublev will be able to win against Djokovic but he should be able to win atleast 1 set.
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