Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 18.

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Quote from: Darker45 on May 25, 2023, 08:37:30 PM

Still, I think Crawford is winning this match. As a matter of fact, to be quite frank, although this is a battle of undefeated fighters, I don't see this as a 50:50 match. I agree with the odds. Spence deserves to be the underdog. The last time he fought was more than a year ago. And then he had no fight in the whole of 2021. In his last few fights, he only had a UD against the two Garcias, Danny and Mikey, and only a split against Porter, who Crawford knocked out.

Crawford is the favorite, I'm not surprised though, I mean he has face tougher opponent that Spence in my opinion. And that Porter fight might be a good gauge as Spence went and it was very close fight, while Crawford just toyed with Porter and even if he is the aggressor, Crawford just want for the right time to knockout and I think that is the last fight of Porter.

I'm just surprised though that majority of boxing fans are not into this thread. They said that the want this fight and really disappointed that it was not done and should be announced in the Garcia vs. Tank fight, but here we are right now. I'm expecting that this thread is going to blow out.

Is it because many of the fans are already tired of talking and waiting for this fight to happen? And when it is finally announced, the hype is long gone? Or is it because this fight is long overdue and, contrary to what others say, these fighters aren't anymore at the top of their careers? Crawford is in his mid 30s already and Spence is just 2 years his junior. Or is it because they're not anymore the brightest stars in boxing today? Or possibly because they weren't fighting big names anymore in their previous fights? Promotion could also be an issue.

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Just to fully prove that the fight is official, here is the article from CBS Sports.

Quote from: Baofeng on May 25, 2023, 04:49:49 PM

As per Sportsbet.io, Crawford is the favorite, 1.66 against Spence 2.09 ML.

Thank you @Baofeng for sharing that.

Both undefeated, all titles will be put in line and whoever will win shall claim it all making him the 4 division title holder. I bet the tickets here will be more expensive than the Tank Davis - Ryan Garcia fight. Then, the pay-per-view price might also break the record of the most expensive PPV in boxing. Grin

I don't like expensive stuff but this is something that should not be missed if you are a boxing fan.
I will probably bet on Spence on this match, inactive for over a year but I doubt the skills will be gone just like that. A little younger with a fighting style that wears down his opponents.
Overall, it's actually hard to predict, it's a perfect match.

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Quote from: Darker45 on May 25, 2023, 08:37:30 PM

Finally, the fight every boxing fan has been waiting for is now sealed. I guess this is already 99% happening. Odds are already released as well.

Yes, it's already official now, Crawford and Spence has announced it to their social media already.

Quote from: Darker45 on May 25, 2023, 08:37:30 PM

Still, I think Crawford is winning this match. As a matter of fact, to be quite frank, although this is a battle of undefeated fighters, I don't see this as a 50:50 match. I agree with the odds. Spence deserves to be the underdog. The last time he fought was more than a year ago. And then he had no fight in the whole of 2021. In his last few fights, he only had a UD against the two Garcias, Danny and Mikey, and only a split against Porter, who Crawford knocked out.

Crawford is the favorite, I'm not surprised though, I mean he has face tougher opponent that Spence in my opinion. And that Porter fight might be a good gauge as Spence went and it was very close fight, while Crawford just toyed with Porter and even if he is the aggressor, Crawford just want for the right time to knockout and I think that is the last fight of Porter.

I'm just surprised though that majority of boxing fans are not into this thread. They said that the want this fight and really disappointed that it was not done and should be announced in the Garcia vs. Tank fight, but here we are right now. I'm expecting that this thread is going to blow out.

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Finally, the fight every boxing fan has been waiting for is now sealed. I guess this is already 99% happening. Odds are already released as well.

Still, I think Crawford is winning this match. As a matter of fact, to be quite frank, although this is a battle of undefeated fighters, I don't see this as a 50:50 match. I agree with the odds. Spence deserves to be the underdog. The last time he fought was more than a year ago. And then he had no fight in the whole of 2021. In his last few fights, he only had a UD against the two Garcias, Danny and Mikey, and only a split against Porter, who Crawford knocked out.

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The wait is over guys, official announcement already been released by both camps, and PBC in their official social media accounts.

https://twitter.com/premierboxing/status/1661789157662883845

I suggest to the OP to update the date, it's set for July 29.

Seeing lot of fans already debating this one, hehehe, of course each one of us will have our own prediction. And this could be huge fight in July as we also have the Fulton vs Inoue as well.

Unification fight, both undefeated, both in their primes.

As per Sportsbet.io, Crawford is the favorite, 1.66 against Spence 2.09 ML.

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If this happened in July 29 as scheduled, it will be one of the biggest event of the year together with Fulton vs Inoue on the same week. Just imagine that, this fighters are all undefeated and most likely in the p4p rankings (maybe except Fulton).

Fulton vs Inoue - July 25
Spence vs Crawford - July 29

Now the only thing to do is wait for the announcement of this fight that it is all set. And yes, it's all over the social media now.

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^^ Yes, we are tired of hearing this news and having a date for this fight. So let's wait and see if there will be official announcement. I know that everyone gets excited when he hear news about this fight, but how many times that we heard and then there is no announcement?

Although it's good to hear that a name popup as a advisor for Terrence Crawford, we all know that he had no manager after he didn't sign with Top Rank. So that it a first hearing a name then in this negotiation.

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Quote from: Baofeng on May 24, 2023, 11:00:04 AM

Breaking news, when we thought that the fight is dead, this news surface in the last 12 hours or so,

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1661148759722545152

I know, we have to wait for the official announcement, but Mike Coppinger is reliable source so boxing fans for sure are excited again to hear that this fight is going to be made.

Yes, I know Mike's quite reliable when it comes to delivering updates and he's already well known for it as most of his announcements are from the camps directly and not just from hearsays or something like that. So there is a huge chance that what was he saying will come true.

But for this instance, people have already hoped too long and some are even giving up the idea that these two undefeated champions will ever face each other in the same ring. So just like them, it's best to wait for further notice until the fight will literally happen.

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Breaking news, when we thought that the fight is dead, this news surface in the last 12 hours or so,

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1661148759722545152

I know, we have to wait for the official announcement, but Mike Coppinger is reliable source so boxing fans for sure are excited again to hear that this fight is going to be made.

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Quote from: Road21Bitcoin on April 25, 2023, 06:52:03 AM

I'm still waiting for the official statements of both sides on whether this fight will be continued or just a dream match. I just saw yesterday a tweet on twitter that possibly the fight will be announced this week. I hope they got inspired by Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia risking their zeros to entertain the boxing fans. It's time to build up the negotiation again and stop ducking each other.

Oh well, for now, at least for myself, I will stop speculating on this fight. We have heard so much that we think that this fight is not going to be made. At least we have seen one big fight in Tank vs King Ry and I would say that it's not a disappointment to us, not ducking, just pure negotiation and then fight is made. Unlike in this two high level boxers, they supposed to be the face of boxing and yet they couldn't make the fight and settle everything. Both of them wanted to be the A-side which is not going to work.

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I'm still waiting for the official statements of both sides on whether this fight will be continued or just a dream match. I just saw yesterday a tweet on twitter that possibly the fight will be announced this week. I hope they got inspired by Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia risking their zeros to entertain the boxing fans. It's time to build up the negotiation again and stop ducking each other.

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Despite all of the positive talks that Errol and Terence is now engage in negotiations, the public is still not buying that especially after the fact that they didn't follow what they've said that there will be an announcement regarding about them before or after the Tank vs Ryan fight. Instead of hyping their fight or whatever they call it, they should make a public announcement or some clarification because by the looks of it, their image is already scathed because of what they've done.

Crawford should engage the public because aside from Spence or Thurman, he is more known to make some statement and the public is more confident to him.

We have reasons not to because everything was almost good to go but they stopped their negotiation because of the very small details in the contract, they have taken the boxing community for a ride now they are messing with the Thurman - Spence fight, the two camps should take a lesson from Tank and Ryan they agreed to all the terms just to make the fight.

If it happens the Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence is the fight that could possibly eclipse the recent Ryan Garcia - Tank Davis match, so they have to move mountains to make it happen.

I really don't believe that they got some misunderstanding in the contract that's why their first negotiation failed and apart from that, Crawford already explained to us that there was never a contract to begin with and if that was the problem, he iterated that he was ready to accept as low as 30% but still nothing happend, so it was just a plain waste of time because Spence doesn't want it at that point.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 05, 2023, 08:21:52 AM

I hope this fight will finally push through as I don't want people to be disappointed again after waiting for it for so long. However, since it's not yet official, it might be best to temper our expectations and not get too excited to avoid another heartbreak.

Regarding the fight itself, I believe it's long overdue as both boxers are great in their own era.

It's about time that we witness a big fight between the two undefeated champions to determine who is the best.

This would be the toughest fight ever once pushed. Both are undefeated and are actually undisputed boxers who are well-skilled in their own craft. Regardless of their age difference, it’s still hard to predict as who will end up as being beaten and who will definitely become the last man standing inside the ring. But if we will look into their past matches, I guess I would vote for Terrence Crawford, he’s not getting any younger and yet, his performance is not aging.

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Quote from: harizen on April 22, 2023, 05:17:05 PM

Spence-Crawford: Showtime’s Espinoza 'Optimistic' Fight 'Gets Done,' But No Announcement Saturday

Maybe they just build up hype. It's confirmed already that no official announcement will be made, supposedly on April 22nd, before or after the fight between Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. All talks are just being positive and that's it. The same scenario last year lol.

That's why I'm really skeptical and doubtful that this fight will just be right away materialized out of nowhere when this news came up. But still, let's wait if there might be a surprise before or after the fight later on between Garcia and Davis.

Well then if no announcement will be made later, hopefully, both parties can finalize the deal this year even though the fight won't be on June 17.

Despite all of the positive talks that Errol and Terence is now engage in negotiations, the public is still not buying that especially after the fact that they didn't follow what they've said that there will be an announcement regarding about them before or after the Tank vs Ryan fight. Instead of hyping their fight or whatever they call it, they should make a public announcement or some clarification because by the looks of it, their image is already scathed because of what they've done.

Crawford should engage the public because aside from Spence or Thurman, he is more known to make some statement and the public is more confident to him.

We all waited for the announcement that didn't come, but at the back of my mind, it's telling me that there's nothing to be announced on the first place as this could be just what we thought could be, just April Fools joke.

Anyhow the Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis super fight is over. And we thought that this could be the next big thing but no word whatsoever. At least we still have the Haney and Loma fight next month and other good fights in the horizon.

And this two are just making a fun of us boxing fans, just saying.

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Quote from: stadus on April 23, 2023, 12:58:14 PM

Despite all of the positive talks that Errol and Terence is now engage in negotiations, the public is still not buying that especially after the fact that they didn't follow what they've said that there will be an announcement regarding about them before or after the Tank vs Ryan fight. Instead of hyping their fight or whatever they call it, they should make a public announcement or some clarification because by the looks of it, their image is already scathed because of what they've done.

Crawford should engage the public because aside from Spence or Thurman, he is more known to make some statement and the public is more confident to him.

We have reasons not to because everything was almost good to go but they stopped their negotiation because of the very small details in the contract, they have taken the boxing community for a ride now they are messing with the Thurman - Spence fight, the two camps should take a lesson from Tank and Ryan they agreed to all the terms just to make the fight.

If it happens the Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence is the fight that could possibly eclipse the recent Ryan Garcia - Tank Davis match, so they have to move mountains to make it happen.

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Quote from: harizen on April 22, 2023, 05:17:05 PM

Spence-Crawford: Showtime’s Espinoza 'Optimistic' Fight 'Gets Done,' But No Announcement Saturday

Maybe they just build up hype. It's confirmed already that no official announcement will be made, supposedly on April 22nd, before or after the fight between Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. All talks are just being positive and that's it. The same scenario last year lol.

That's why I'm really skeptical and doubtful that this fight will just be right away materialized out of nowhere when this news came up. But still, let's wait if there might be a surprise before or after the fight later on between Garcia and Davis.

Well then if no announcement will be made later, hopefully, both parties can finalize the deal this year even though the fight won't be on June 17.

Despite all of the positive talks that Errol and Terence is now engage in negotiations, the public is still not buying that especially after the fact that they didn't follow what they've said that there will be an announcement regarding about them before or after the Tank vs Ryan fight. Instead of hyping their fight or whatever they call it, they should make a public announcement or some clarification because by the looks of it, their image is already scathed because of what they've done.

Crawford should engage the public because aside from Spence or Thurman, he is more known to make some statement and the public is more confident to him.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 22, 2023, 05:43:01 PM

Both camps including Thurman are quiet because they do not want to take out the media and public attention on the coming Garcia-Davis fight a fight that could possibly become the fight of the year, but after the fight, we will see the real and clear scenario if this Crawford - Spence will eventually happen this June, they should clear it officially because Spence camp is selling the Thurman fight and they don't want the sales to suffer.
We have a lot of drama between the two, but the Garcia - Davis also has a lot of drama in the past before they eventually settle to fight this year.

I don't see what's the connection of either Thurman's or Spence's camp being quiet just to give way for the exposure of the Garcia-Davis fight.

It doesn't matter whether Thurman, Spence, nor Crawford will make some moves and announced it to the public since it will never ruin the public attention of the Garcia-Davis fight because that fight is also one of the biggest anticipated fights for a long. There is no way that anything about Thurman, Spence, and Crawford can affect its public attention as the Garcia-Davis fight will still be exciting and surely, sold-out.

But as stated above, there's a chance that no announcement will be made about Crawford vs. Spence fight in the Garcia vs. Davis fight later on but still let's wait. Just a few hours of waiting before the latter event and we will see if they will give at least information about the Crawford vs. Spence match.

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Quote from: harizen on April 22, 2023, 05:17:05 PM

Spence-Crawford: Showtime’s Espinoza 'Optimistic' Fight 'Gets Done,' But No Announcement Saturday

Maybe they just build up hype. It's confirmed already that no official announcement will be made, supposedly on April 22nd, before or after the fight between Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. All talks are just being positive and that's it. The same scenario last year lol.

That's why I'm really skeptical and doubtful that this fight will just be right away materialized out of nowhere when this news came up. But still, let's wait if there might be a surprise before or after the fight later on between Garcia and Davis.

Well then if no announcement will be made later, hopefully, both parties can finalize the deal this year even though the fight won't be on June 17.

Both camps including Thurman are quiet because they do not want to take out the media and public attention on the coming Garcia-Davis fight a fight that could possibly become the fight of the year, but after the fight, we will see the real and clear scenario if this Crawford - Spence will eventually happen this June, they should clear it officially because Spence camp is selling the Thurman fight and they don't want the sales to suffer.
We have a lot of drama between the two, but the Garcia - Davis also has a lot of drama in the past before they eventually settle to fight this year.

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Spence-Crawford: Showtime’s Espinoza 'Optimistic' Fight 'Gets Done,' But No Announcement Saturday

Maybe they just build up hype. It's confirmed already that no official announcement will be made, supposedly on April 22nd, before or after the fight between Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. All talks are just being positive and that's it. The same scenario last year lol.

That's why I'm really skeptical and doubtful that this fight will just be right away materialized out of nowhere when this news came up. But still, let's wait if there might be a surprise before or after the fight later on between Garcia and Davis.

Well then if no announcement will be made later, hopefully, both parties can finalize the deal this year even though the fight won't be on June 17.

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Quote from: harizen on April 20, 2023, 05:47:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on April 17, 2023, 02:03:21 AM

So hopefully, there's indeed a news in the Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis fight. Hopefully it's against Thurman or Crawford.

I think we should take out Keith Thurman now as there's not even a bit of fresh, updated, and recent news about him. It's like before that he is not active and may be on hiatus again. Even prior to the sudden news about this rumored fight between Terrence Crawford and Errol Spence (I say rumored, as no official announcement yet), anything about Thurman is out of the news.

Back to the topic, yes we should expect the official announcement on this fight on April 22 as stated when this news came out. Maybe after the fight between Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis, an update will be followed.

The June 17 date can't be considered as the official date without the official announcement. It was not yet a done deal until it was announced officially.

In my perspective, even June 17 seems to be a short time frame for them to prepare, train and market this rumored bout because this is a unification fight and the winner will be the undisputed and not just any ordinary fight that won't be needing some time like 2 months from the announced date. June 17 is already around the corner because next month is already May, I don't know but I'm still skeptical about it.

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