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Topic: Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 14. (Read 2332 times)

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But I still doubt it. I believe that odds change automatically. It can't happen that both suddenly become underdogs in the odds. They will go bankrupt if they provide such odds.
Don't focus too much on an obvious mistake; we all know the odds are not like that, as it would not work in favor of the casino. No casino would go bankrupt, so they'll provide odds that benefit them. As for the current odds, they haven't changed yet; Crawford is still the favorite to win. I'm also waiting for alternative odds – you know, odds with a big multiplier – and I'll be expecting some crazy things to happen, like an early KO.

The fight is still on July 29, the odds can definitely change, and 1.50 is possible when bettors see some gym exercises, press con, and the face-off. Watching a lot of boxing celebrities picking whom are they rooting for and I think it's convincing enough when they say Crawford will succeed over Spence.  

The majority of their fights ended in less than 5 rounds, I would also expect them to end quickly. They are both taking the risk here and are glad to see they didn't wait until 45 years old to do the exhibition.

I very much disagree. What might occur is Spence odds might become close to 2.00. I also do not see a lot of boxing celebrities easily say that they choose Crawford over Spence. It is always with a warning that this is going to be a close fight.

Also, you expect it to end quickly? Hehehe I shake my head on that comment. Both of these boxers are very tough. Crawford was never knocked down in his whole career and Spence was only knocked down once after so many rounds in the ring. This might end with a decision. Over 10.5 rounds is only 1.40.
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But I still doubt it. I believe that odds change automatically. It can't happen that both suddenly become underdogs in the odds. They will go bankrupt if they provide such odds.
Don't focus too much on an obvious mistake; we all know the odds are not like that, as it would not work in favor of the casino. No casino would go bankrupt, so they'll provide odds that benefit them. As for the current odds, they haven't changed yet; Crawford is still the favorite to win. I'm also waiting for alternative odds – you know, odds with a big multiplier – and I'll be expecting some crazy things to happen, like an early KO.

I actually didn't dwell on it. I accepted that it was an obvious mistake. But then he stood by it and responded that it was really the odds provided by the sportsbook. That was when I got even more surprised. I simply can't believe such odds are released. By the way, we're not talking about a casino here. We're talking about bookies.

The majority of their fights ended in less than 5 rounds, I would also expect them to end quickly. They are both taking the risk here and are glad to see they didn't wait until 45 years old to do the exhibition.

Agree. For such an amazing match, it would be a total waste if it only happens when they're already out of their peak. In fact, to be honest, even if this is still exciting, this is not anymore a battle between two great boxers who are at the top of their careers. Although Spence and Crawford remain undefeated, they've already aged.
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But I still doubt it. I believe that odds change automatically. It can't happen that both suddenly become underdogs in the odds. They will go bankrupt if they provide such odds.
Don't focus too much on an obvious mistake; we all know the odds are not like that, as it would not work in favor of the casino. No casino would go bankrupt, so they'll provide odds that benefit them. As for the current odds, they haven't changed yet; Crawford is still the favorite to win. I'm also waiting for alternative odds – you know, odds with a big multiplier – and I'll be expecting some crazy things to happen, like an early KO.

The fight is still on July 29, the odds can definitely change, and 1.50 is possible when bettors see some gym exercises, press con, and the face-off. Watching a lot of boxing celebrities picking whom are they rooting for and I think it's convincing enough when they say Crawford will succeed over Spence.  

The majority of their fights ended in less than 5 rounds, I would also expect them to end quickly. They are both taking the risk here and are glad to see they didn't wait until 45 years old to do the exhibition.
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There is still more than a month to go before the fight happens. The odds could still change depending on the money that would come in. But for me, Crawford's odds right now are high enough for somebody who really believes in him and his skills. I could even understand if he's given as low as 1.50.

Yes, the kick off press conference had happened already, so it's the start of full swing of this fight, trainings and other media coverage. And I also doubt that the odds are going to change, Crawford should still be the favorite till fight time. And it's up to us boxing fans as who will go with this very good fight.

I highly doubt the odds will change to as high as 1.50 in favor of Crawford. Those odds are only possible if this fight happened some years ago when Crawford looked invincible. Now, Crawford is already turning 36 in the next few months. Physically he is not in his prime anymore. His speed and reflexes are not the same as before.

Spence will enter the ring as the heavier guy and he will try to make it into a physical fight where he will come out stronger. If Crawford will come out the same during the Avanesyan fight then he is in serious danger. Spence will be stronger and has heavier hands than Avanesyan. Crawford needs to fight smart and be ready to move around the ring for the whole 12 rounds.

I would love to see Crawford knocking out Spence. This event is handled by PBC and Showtime and their fighter Spence might come out the winner during close rounds. So Crawford needs to win rounds clearly and land those power shots with bad intentions.

Yeah, I also not seeing the odds really swinging in favor of Crawford, it will remain the same throughout the betting window. If there will be some whales that will put millions on Crawford, for sure there will also be some going into Spence as he is a the underdog.

Not sure how heavy is Spence against Ugas but he looks huge at the fight. Although Crawford might be the smaller between the two, but his looks and height are deceiving as he has power in either hands. So yeah, if a knockout will present itself and if there is a scenario that he caught Spence during their exchanges then maybe there will be a chance that we will see Spence going to the canvass for the first time.
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There is still more than a month to go before the fight happens. The odds could still change depending on the money that would come in. But for me, Crawford's odds right now are high enough for somebody who really believes in him and his skills. I could even understand if he's given as low as 1.50.

Yes, the kick off press conference had happened already, so it's the start of full swing of this fight, trainings and other media coverage. And I also doubt that the odds are going to change, Crawford should still be the favorite till fight time. And it's up to us boxing fans as who will go with this very good fight.

I highly doubt the odds will change to as high as 1.50 in favor of Crawford. Those odds are only possible if this fight happened some years ago when Crawford looked invincible. Now, Crawford is already turning 36 in the next few months. Physically he is not in his prime anymore. His speed and reflexes are not the same as before.

Spence will enter the ring as the heavier guy and he will try to make it into a physical fight where he will come out stronger. If Crawford will come out the same during the Avanesyan fight then he is in serious danger. Spence will be stronger and has heavier hands than Avanesyan. Crawford needs to fight smart and be ready to move around the ring for the whole 12 rounds.

I would love to see Crawford knocking out Spence. This event is handled by PBC and Showtime and their fighter Spence might come out the winner during close rounds. So Crawford needs to win rounds clearly and land those power shots with bad intentions.
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But I still doubt it. I believe that odds change automatically. It can't happen that both suddenly become underdogs in the odds. They will go bankrupt if they provide such odds.
Don't focus too much on an obvious mistake; we all know the odds are not like that, as it would not work in favor of the casino. No casino would go bankrupt, so they'll provide odds that benefit them. As for the current odds, they haven't changed yet; Crawford is still the favorite to win. I'm also waiting for alternative odds – you know, odds with a big multiplier – and I'll be expecting some crazy things to happen, like an early KO.
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This is a 50/50 match because both of them could defeat the other. But if I were to base my prediction on what they have achieved over the years in their career and what they can do, I think Crawford is ahead.

Judging from their past fights, I think Crawford no doubt has the slight advantage here for about 60/40 but we all know Spence is also strong when he is facing a real contender. Both should really be going to fight at this time because they already delayed it longer than expected. thankfully they decided to agree on and we will gonna see one of the fights of the century in a couple of days now. The conference I saw on the post made them finalize their fight and it will gonna be one of the fights that we want to watch live because no matter how see it, it will gonna be one of the historical fights in boxing history.
The odds are really interesting, but we can't say that the bookies didn't do their job. I mean it usually came for Vegas odd makers so they have the experienced to do that. But for some of us, this quite be a 50/50 fight as both are undefeated and champions in their own right and I would say that either hasn't been tested in their win and they have been dominating for the last couple of years. And yes, this is going to be the best fight hands down in paper. It's just need to live to it's hype and then we might see another one, a rematch, whoever wins here.
A rematch is certainly a possibility, but its likelihood will depend on the outcome of the fight. Both fighters are skilled and resilient, capable of absorbing heavy punches. Spence, in particular, is known for his willingness to engage in close-quarters combat without much movement. This could pose a challenge for Crawford, as Spence will be actively seeking opportunities to land his own punches. Knocking out Spence may prove difficult for Crawford due to Spence's aggressive approach and willingness to take risks in search of openings.
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This is a 50/50 match because both of them could defeat the other. But if I were to base my prediction on what they have achieved over the years in their career and what they can do, I think Crawford is ahead.

Judging from their past fights, I think Crawford no doubt has the slight advantage here for about 60/40 but we all know Spence is also strong when he is facing a real contender. Both should really be going to fight at this time because they already delayed it longer than expected. thankfully they decided to agree on and we will gonna see one of the fights of the century in a couple of days now. The conference I saw on the post made them finalize their fight and it will gonna be one of the fights that we want to watch live because no matter how see it, it will gonna be one of the historical fights in boxing history.
The odds are really interesting, but we can't say that the bookies didn't do their job. I mean it usually came for Vegas odd makers so they have the experienced to do that. But for some of us, this quite be a 50/50 fight as both are undefeated and champions in their own right and I would say that either hasn't been tested in their win and they have been dominating for the last couple of years. And yes, this is going to be the best fight hands down in paper. It's just need to live to it's hype and then we might see another one, a rematch, whoever wins here.
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Looking at their odds, even betting for the bookies favorite, Terence Crawford, is still promising and profitable for me because his odds to win at least for the money line is still above 2.00 while for Errol Spence is a little bit over 3.00 . But the trouble is, even though Crawford have some upper hand in this fight, we cannot really underestimate Errol Spence because even if we don't like him that much or at least for me because of what he did recently, he is still undeniably good when it comes to boxing.

Are you sure? If the money line odds for Terence Crawford is above 2.00 while Errol Spence's is over 3.00, then the betting platform will go bankrupt. Nobody will lose if those are the betting odds. If I were a bettor, I would be betting on the two fighters with all my savings knowing that whoever wins, I will make a profit.

You might want to double check your numbers. Last I checked Crawford is the favorite with 1.74 money line odds.

My bad, I just checked the line just a while ago and apparently it did moved already from the time I last checked it.

Anyway, the lines that I've mentioned above was the real lines that I saw in my sportsbook and you might want to ask the bookies for listing them with high odds, not me, because just like you, I'm just a bettor who wanted to take advantage of the odds as much as possible. You could've bet on them early if you have opened the lines much earlier.

Really? I thought it was a typo error. Or are you sure you didn't see it wrong? What betting platform would that be?

Given what you said, that you wanted to take advantage of the odds as much as possible, did you place your bet? You couldn't lose with those odds. Crawford with above 2.00 and Spence with above 3.00, you couldn't lose.

But I still doubt it. I believe that odds change automatically. It can't happen that both suddenly become underdogs in the odds. They will go bankrupt if they provide such odds.
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Agreed, Crawford is the crowd favorite due to its skill set and eagerness to win. Knowing how Crawford fight, The first few rounds will gonna be boring since they will just calculating each other or whatsoever unless Spence forced Crawford to become aggressive and fight him blow by blow. Crawford has the advantage in terms of stamina since Spence is a big man.

I don't think it's because of Crawford's skill set and eagerness to win that's why he was the crowd favorite.

Technically speaking, both boxers do have good skills and of course, Spence is also eager to win. From what I see, Crawford is the crowd favorite because of the past situation they went into. We all know that Crawford doesn't make any excuses and focuses on building his legacy. While on the other hand, Spence and his camp are pure of drama that's why this mega bout took several years in the making.

I'm not sure though, referring to what you say, about who has the advantage in terms of stamina. Regardless of Spence being bulky, they are fighting with a required weight therefore we can't compare their overall endurance. That depends though on which of them is still in good shape fighting at 147. If I remember it right, there was a report before that Spence is now having a hard time maintaining his shape at 147 that's why his camp even considered him to fight instead at 154 which doesn't happen.

I just hope that their fight will not gonna result into early knock out since both fighter is very capable on doing that with an opening.

I'm sure that as much as possible, both fighters won't allow themselves to be knocked out.

The turning point of the match will depend on the perfect timing of their respective strategy.
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Looking at their odds, even betting for the bookies favorite, Terence Crawford, is still promising and profitable for me because his odds to win at least for the money line is still above 2.00 while for Errol Spence is a little bit over 3.00 . But the trouble is, even though Crawford have some upper hand in this fight, we cannot really underestimate Errol Spence because even if we don't like him that much or at least for me because of what he did recently, he is still undeniably good when it comes to boxing.

Are you sure? If the money line odds for Terence Crawford is above 2.00 while Errol Spence's is over 3.00, then the betting platform will go bankrupt. Nobody will lose if those are the betting odds. If I were a bettor, I would be betting on the two fighters with all my savings knowing that whoever wins, I will make a profit.

You might want to double check your numbers. Last I checked Crawford is the favorite with 1.74 money line odds.

My bad, I just checked the line just a while ago and apparently it did moved already from the time I last checked it.

Anyway, the lines that I've mentioned above was the real lines that I saw in my sportsbook and you might want to ask the bookies for listing them with high odds, not me, because just like you, I'm just a bettor who wanted to take advantage of the odds as much as possible. You could've bet on them early if you have opened the lines much earlier.
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This is a 50/50 match because both of them could defeat the other. But if I were to base my prediction on what they have achieved over the years in their career and what they can do, I think Crawford is ahead.

Judging from their past fights, I think Crawford no doubt has the slight advantage here for about 60/40 but we all know Spence is also strong when he is facing a real contender. Both should really be going to fight at this time because they already delayed it longer than expected. thankfully they decided to agree on and we will gonna see one of the fights of the century in a couple of days now. The conference I saw on the post made them finalize their fight and it will gonna be one of the fights that we want to watch live because no matter how see it, it will gonna be one of the historical fights in boxing history.

Agreed, Crawford is the crowd favorite due to its skill set and eagerness to win. Knowing how Crawford fight, The first few rounds will gonna be boring since they will just calculating each other or whatsoever unless Spence forced Crawford to become aggressive and fight him blow by blow. Crawford has the advantage in terms of stamina since Spence is a big man.

I just hope that their fight will not gonna result into early knock out since both fighter is very capable on doing that with an opening.
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This is a 50/50 match because both of them could defeat the other. But if I were to base my prediction on what they have achieved over the years in their career and what they can do, I think Crawford is ahead.

Judging from their past fights, I think Crawford no doubt has the slight advantage here for about 60/40 but we all know Spence is also strong when he is facing a real contender. Both should really be going to fight at this time because they already delayed it longer than expected. thankfully they decided to agree on and we will gonna see one of the fights of the century in a couple of days now. The conference I saw on the post made them finalize their fight and it will gonna be one of the fights that we want to watch live because no matter how see it, it will gonna be one of the historical fights in boxing history.
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Looking at their odds, even betting for the bookies favorite, Terence Crawford, is still promising and profitable for me because his odds to win at least for the money line is still above 2.00 while for Errol Spence is a little bit over 3.00 . But the trouble is, even though Crawford have some upper hand in this fight, we cannot really underestimate Errol Spence because even if we don't like him that much or at least for me because of what he did recently, he is still undeniably good when it comes to boxing.

Are you sure? If the money line odds for Terence Crawford is above 2.00 while Errol Spence's is over 3.00, then the betting platform will go bankrupt. Nobody will lose if those are the betting odds. If I were a bettor, I would be betting on the two fighters with all my savings knowing that whoever wins, I will make a profit.

You might want to double check your numbers. Last I checked Crawford is the favorite with 1.74 money line odds.
I believe that was just a typo error, hehe. It's quite evident that Crawford is the favored fighter, although only by a small margin. In my opinion, this fight is actually a 50/50 matchup. However, considering Crawford's more impressive victories compared to Spence, it's understandable why he is listed as the favorite. Regardless, the specifics of favoritism don't matter at the moment. Once this fight takes place, both fighters will undoubtedly have their own supporters cheering them on, which will make the bout thrilling to watch.

This is a 50/50 match because both of them could defeat the other. But if I were to base my prediction on what they have achieved over the years in their career and what they can do, I think Crawford is ahead.

And probably this is what the bookies have looked, and that's why Bud Crawford in the favorite. They have 2 common boxers that they fought and it seems that Crawford beating them is more impressive. And as far as the tools, Crawford has more of it and he can switch up stance and has better defense as well.

There is still more than a month to go before the fight happens. The odds could still change depending on the money that would come in. But for me, Crawford's odds right now are high enough for somebody who really believes in him and his skills. I could even understand if he's given as low as 1.50.

Yes, the kick off press conference had happened already, so it's the start of full swing of this fight, trainings and other media coverage. And I also doubt that the odds are going to change, Crawford should still be the favorite till fight time. And it's up to us boxing fans as who will go with this very good fight.
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Looking at their odds, even betting for the bookies favorite, Terence Crawford, is still promising and profitable for me because his odds to win at least for the money line is still above 2.00 while for Errol Spence is a little bit over 3.00 . But the trouble is, even though Crawford have some upper hand in this fight, we cannot really underestimate Errol Spence because even if we don't like him that much or at least for me because of what he did recently, he is still undeniably good when it comes to boxing.

Are you sure? If the money line odds for Terence Crawford is above 2.00 while Errol Spence's is over 3.00, then the betting platform will go bankrupt. Nobody will lose if those are the betting odds. If I were a bettor, I would be betting on the two fighters with all my savings knowing that whoever wins, I will make a profit.

You might want to double check your numbers. Last I checked Crawford is the favorite with 1.74 money line odds.
I believe that was just a typo error, hehe. It's quite evident that Crawford is the favored fighter, although only by a small margin. In my opinion, this fight is actually a 50/50 matchup. However, considering Crawford's more impressive victories compared to Spence, it's understandable why he is listed as the favorite. Regardless, the specifics of favoritism don't matter at the moment. Once this fight takes place, both fighters will undoubtedly have their own supporters cheering them on, which will make the bout thrilling to watch.

This is a 50/50 match because both of them could defeat the other. But if I were to base my prediction on what they have achieved over the years in their career and what they can do, I think Crawford is ahead.

There is still more than a month to go before the fight happens. The odds could still change depending on the money that would come in. But for me, Crawford's odds right now are high enough for somebody who really believes in him and his skills. I could even understand if he's given as low as 1.50.
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Best fighters in the world and probably for the glory and pound for pound number 1.

The winner of this fight has a strong chance of claiming the number one pound-for-pound ranking.

According to the current rankings on https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/, Spence is ranked at number 4, while Crawford is at number 3. Therefore, I speculate that the winner of this fight may potentially be listed as the number one pound-for-pound fighter. However, I am not familiar with the exact criteria used to determine the number one ranking.

Might be, but it's too subjective though, I mean Inoue will be fighting on the same week and if he delivers a good fight and another knockout reel, then I doubt that either Spence or Crawford can overtake him in the number 1 spot.

Just watch the snippet of the press conference, I like the attitude of both boxers, they are really looking forward to this fight and no trash talking initially as they really work hard for this fight to be made. And I like what Crawford says regarding as why it took so long for this find to materialized, for him it doesn't matter, what's important is that they were able to settle everything. They even admit that they talk alot in Facetime, hence the respect between the two.
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Best fighters in the world and probably for the glory and pound for pound number 1.

The winner of this fight has a strong chance of claiming the number one pound-for-pound ranking.

According to the current rankings on https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/, Spence is ranked at number 4, while Crawford is at number 3. Therefore, I speculate that the winner of this fight may potentially be listed as the number one pound-for-pound fighter. However, I am not familiar with the exact criteria used to determine the number one ranking.
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Ok everything is rolling out, the press conference has kicked in, here is the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acedO6P1iKw.

The video though is too long, but in the end there is respect between the two, their trainers and the fighters themselves. So definitely fight is now on, it just feel surreal though that finally we are going to see this fight and this two promises a war. Best fighters in the world and probably for the glory and pound for pound number 1.

This is certainly shaping up to be an intense battle, with both fighters displaying high aggression and a strong knockout record. They should ensure they are fully conditioned for the fight, as it is scheduled for 12 rounds. Crawford is considered the favorite to win, and I'm confident that he has thoroughly studied Spence's style. It's a long-awaited opportunity for Crawford to finally face Spence in the ring.
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Ok everything is rolling out, the press conference has kicked in, here is the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acedO6P1iKw.

The video though is too long, but in the end there is respect between the two, their trainers and the fighters themselves. So definitely fight is now on, it just feel surreal though that finally we are going to see this fight and this two promises a war. Best fighters in the world and probably for the glory and pound for pound number 1.
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Looking at their odds, even betting for the bookies favorite, Terence Crawford, is still promising and profitable for me because his odds to win at least for the money line is still above 2.00 while for Errol Spence is a little bit over 3.00 . But the trouble is, even though Crawford have some upper hand in this fight, we cannot really underestimate Errol Spence because even if we don't like him that much or at least for me because of what he did recently, he is still undeniably good when it comes to boxing.

Are you sure? If the money line odds for Terence Crawford is above 2.00 while Errol Spence's is over 3.00, then the betting platform will go bankrupt. Nobody will lose if those are the betting odds. If I were a bettor, I would be betting on the two fighters with all my savings knowing that whoever wins, I will make a profit.

You might want to double check your numbers. Last I checked Crawford is the favorite with 1.74 money line odds.
I believe that was just a typo error, hehe. It's quite evident that Crawford is the favored fighter, although only by a small margin. In my opinion, this fight is actually a 50/50 matchup. However, considering Crawford's more impressive victories compared to Spence, it's understandable why he is listed as the favorite. Regardless, the specifics of favoritism don't matter at the moment. Once this fight takes place, both fighters will undoubtedly have their own supporters cheering them on, which will make the bout thrilling to watch.

Yeah, maybe it was just a typo error, however, we know that Crawford will be the slight favorite in this fight and I doubt that there will be a a swing in favor of Porter in the last minute.
This one is also typo, it should be Spence.  Grin


And it just shows what Crawford skills though, this is the best 147 lbs and we have been saying that and we wanted to see this 2 fighters getting into the ring to decide which one is the best. And this could be the biggest fight for this year, I know that there are already big fights like the Haney vs Loma or Garcia vs Davis. But for me, as 147 lbs is the biggest weight class of all boxing, then we might as well see a most likely candidate for fight of the year and the numbers here could exceed the fight of Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis in terms of PPV and live gates and all the money for networks and their promotional manager.

These fighters in the weight class are actually better than the names mentioned in your statement. Even Garcia or Davis, I doubt they would be able to defeat either Spence or Crawford. Therefore, it's crucial that this fight takes place to determine who is the best in the ring.
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