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Virat failed today but we saw two great openers for India. Haven't seen any batsman make a double century for long and especially an opener. Last I remember Sehwag making a double hundred and that too in a T20 match.

India should be looking for batsmen who can perform in all types of surfaces. I have no bad blood against either Mayank Agarwal or Rohit Sharma. But these two batsmen have failed to perform outside the subcontinent. In my opinion, India doesn't need players such as Ravichandran Ashwin, who have the capability to be competitive only on doctored tracks.

But still, the collapse by South Africa during the last session of play today was disappointing. Despite having many experienced players in their batting lineup (Markram, Elgar.etc), they were unable to contain the spin of Ashwin. And the decision to send Piedt as the night watchman was another mistake. How can you expect him to survive out there, when top order batsmen were finding it very tough?
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Ganguly was a decent captain at best and I feel that MSD laid the foundation by replacing the older players with new talent which worked wonders for India in the long term.
If not for Ganguly we will not see players like Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Yuvraj Singh, Mohammad Kaif, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan and Virender Sehwag in international cricket, these were the greatest find and contribution from Sourav Ganguly to Indian cricket and he brought these players in the Indian team when he was the captain and you think he was just a decent captain  Shocked. Sourav Ganguly changed the concept of getting selected just by mere selection process and he was involved in bringing all these players directly into the international scene and into his team and his concept is being followed by MSD and now Kohli.
See no matter whose fan we are but it is useless to undermine the importance of any player and his contributions to team. Ganguly on one hand taught India how to win matches and series overseas as until then India never imagined winning a lot of series overseas. moreover the overall balance what he gave the team can also not be undermined. While dhoni tautght India how to win big tournaments and how to turn out to become the best team in the world. Both brought some players which gave some great wins to India later on. Even kohli is doing great as a captain but fact is that he has got the best side in the World already
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Virat failed today but we saw two great openers for India. Haven't seen any batsman make a double century for long and especially an opener. Last I remember Sehwag making a double hundred and that too in a T20 match.

Don't know whether they'll declare at 450 but it's about time being afternoon now. Their RR is the best for the team and they did not waste time today and made as many runs as possible before losing wickets. Jadeja may add up another 50 now if they still wish to play. I don't expect a draw but a win for India.
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Checking their earlier stats, SA won against India and Australia last year but in their own land. They haven't performed that well in foreign countries but are masters in their own country.
To win against India in India is a difficult task but South Africa too have a decent batting line up and as everyone says if the pitch is batting friendly then we might see a draw. I am watching Agarwal for the first time and he is playing fluently and the search for a good opener might end here with Rohit and Agarwal giving India a dream start. I am confused what to make of the situation with three days left, India and draw will be a good option.
More chances for India to win the match, and this can be known soon after the first ten over batting of South Africa. Mayank Agarwal is getting close to 200 runs, this is best in terms of opening. Looking upon the wicket fall of Rohit Sharma it confirms how necessity is the opening partnership. Probably India will declare after scoring 500.
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Checking their earlier stats, SA won against India and Australia last year but in their own land. They haven't performed that well in foreign countries but are masters in their own country.
To win against India in India is a difficult task but South Africa too have a decent batting line up and as everyone says if the pitch is batting friendly then we might see a draw. I am watching Agarwal for the first time and he is playing fluently and the search for a good opener might end here with Rohit and Agarwal giving India a dream start. I am confused what to make of the situation with three days left, India and draw will be a good option.
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176 is a terrific score for Rohit and now Agarwal is also got 150+ runs. Pujara failed to perform today so now hope to see another 100 partnership between Virat and Agarwal to get them to 450-500 runs. In 2 hours, they should declare as already 1.5 days are over and first innings should be done by now. SA is good when it comes to test matches so even 500 now seems less but since they aren't playing in SA, there's still hope that they may not get these runs.

Checking their earlier stats, SA won against India and Australia last year but in their own land. They haven't performed that well in foreign countries but are masters in their own country.
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202/0 is not an outstanding performance? Hilarious. Rohit and Mayank set up the perfect start for India and I highly doubt this will end in a draw. This looks like a win for India all the way at this point. Even if it rains later, I am expecting India to pack up the South African lineup pretty quickly.
Waiting for the Indian team to declare their innings and send South Africa to bat and you will understand what i was talking about, i like to see a competitive cricket and not seeing players scoring tons of runs and there is no assist to any bowlers, Test cricket is dying because of these dull events and if ICC is planning to reinvent Test cricket they need to come up with a minimum standard for pitches too rather than having flat batting wickets.
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Ganguly was a decent captain at best and I feel that MSD laid the foundation by replacing the older players with new talent which worked wonders for India in the long term.
If not for Ganguly we will not see players like Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Yuvraj Singh, Mohammad Kaif, Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan and Virender Sehwag in international cricket, these were the greatest find and contribution from Sourav Ganguly to Indian cricket and he brought these players in the Indian team when he was the captain and you think he was just a decent captain  Shocked. Sourav Ganguly changed the concept of getting selected just by mere selection process and he was involved in bringing all these players directly into the international scene and into his team and his concept is being followed by MSD and now Kohli.
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Despite of the fact that South Africa's batting side doesn't have that much power, they still can't be taken for granted. They are known to fire back even in some unfavorable conditions and I really hope that tomorrow isn't their day. If rain doesn't interrupts regularly then India can even bat the whole day tomorrow and then look for some good bowling day after tomorrow.

Oh.. common... do you really think that a batting lineup that includes players such as Faf du Plessis, Quinton de Kock and Aiden Markram doesn't have any power? Just wait for one or two days and you will get to know what these batsmen are capable of in a flat pitch like the one they have at Vizag. India might score 500 plus and South Africa is also going to score around that. And the match is going to end in a draw.
I think compared to the older South African team which consisted of Hashim Amla & AB Devillers too in this side was much stronger than the current team. Moreover that team had much more experience of playing on the subcontinent wickets which is a bit missing in Aiden Markram. He has played just two test matches in Indian subcontinent which were against Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka which his performance was miserable. Have a look here:




He has a great home experience but almost no record for away games. Let's see what happens.  
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Finally India lost their first wicket when Rohit Sharma started to be aggressive and lost his wicket stumped, India is in very strong position with over 300 runs and just one wicket lost and they have a long line up of players who are good to play a long innings and i am not sure what the strategy will be, whether they will post 600 plus runs or declare before that is to be seen.
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Now the second century for India has come from Mayank Agarwal. This is his debut hundred in his test career, and this has been scored in 203 balls. The partnership is quite strong, and such a start gives a big confidence to the entire team. South Africa should do something to break the partnership, because after certain score the run rate will surely increase.
Glad to see Indian openers giving them a good start after a very long time, whether India will stick to this opening partnership is yet to be seen, Mayank Agarwal was performing so well in the domestic circuit for a very long time and finally India sending Rohit Sharma to open the test match and he just crossed 150 runs and he is looking for a double century in his first opportunity as an opener which is always great for Indian fans Smiley.
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Now the second century for India has come from Mayank Agarwal. This is his debut hundred in his test career, and this has been scored in 203 balls. The partnership is quite strong, and such a start gives a big confidence to the entire team. South Africa should do something to break the partnership, because after certain score the run rate will surely increase. This will let them score big in a short time which decrease the winning or the draw chance of South Africa.
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India is in good position in my opinion. They should be winning this match in three days duration assuming two days will be washed away by rain LOL
Weather will play a major role in this match and if we are to see a result India must declare the innings with a good first innings of 450 runs and then put the South Africans to bat and see whether India could trouble their batting line up and if India could pick the wicket then we might see a result if not i am expecting a draw as South Africa does have a good batting line up and the pitch was flat on the first day, whether it will assist the spinners in the coming days is yet to be seen.
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202/0 is not an outstanding performance? Hilarious. Rohit and Mayank set up the perfect start for India and I highly doubt this will end in a draw. This looks like a win for India all the way at this point. Even if it rains later, I am expecting India to pack up the South African lineup pretty quickly.


It must be raining coz I see 59.1 over bowled. I was not able to see a single ball. Just checking the scores.
3.41 is the run rate which is not bad.
India is in good position in my opinion. They should be winning this match in three days duration assuming two days will be washed away by rain LOL
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Despite of the fact that South Africa's batting side doesn't have that much power, they still can't be taken for granted. They are known to fire back even in some unfavorable conditions and I really hope that tomorrow isn't their day. If rain doesn't interrupts regularly then India can even bat the whole day tomorrow and then look for some good bowling day after tomorrow.

Oh.. common... do you really think that a batting lineup that includes players such as Faf du Plessis, Quinton de Kock and Aiden Markram doesn't have any power? Just wait for one or two days and you will get to know what these batsmen are capable of in a flat pitch like the one they have at Vizag. India might score 500 plus and South Africa is also going to score around that. And the match is going to end in a draw.
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I think we should start comparing Rishabh Pant with Rohit Sharma instead of comparing him with MSD or Virat Kohli.

May be Pant is WK batsman so its makes sense when comparing him with Dhoni, instead of Rohit and never heard that anyone comparing Pant with Virat.

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Actually my point of comparing him with Rohit Sharma was actually due to the graph of career of Rohit Sharma. If you remember in the opening years for a long time Rohit Sharma couldn't actually get any good knocks he was terrible at any place in the side. Moreover, surprisingly, despite of his continuous failures he was still not dropped from the side and given a hell lot of chances until Dhoni made him a great player, I expect something similar to happen with Rishab Pant which is why i pointed the comparison with Sharma.
Rohit back in form. So good to see him getting 100+ on the first day and India not losing one wicket. After a long time seeing the openers do well for the team else it used to be either Shikhar and recently Rohit getting out for a duck.

Good decision to bat first but rain again created a hurdle. Rain was not predicted and while it's so hot now. 4 hours - almost half day wasted.

I predict the score to be 450+ when India decide to declare. Even if they lose wickets, still 400 is on their target.  Looks like they should win by an innings and this time Virat should choose to follow-on.


Despite of the fact that South Africa's batting side doesn't have that much power, they still can't be taken for granted. They are known to fire back even in some unfavorable conditions and I really hope that tomorrow isn't their day. If rain doesn't interrupts regularly then India can even bat the whole day tomorrow and then look for some good bowling day after tomorrow.
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A score in excess of 600 looks like a probability for India and the question is how long they are going to take, to achieve it. If there is rain interruption in the coming days, then this match will be heading for another boring draw. There will be chance of a result only if Ashwin or any other Indian bowler is able to get South Africa out for less than 300.
Test cricket is a dying bread and if they prepare dead wickets like this for the batsmen to score runs and end up in a draw after five days of play is not an interesting result everyone is looking forward. I do not think that it is an outstanding performance from the Indian openers as the pitch was not giving any assistance to the bowlers and the pitch was flat in the first day which gives you an idea how the match will go, weather is also not that great and expect sessions to be missed in the next days too and it will end up in a draw.

They had no reason to prepare a dead track, as South Africa is not a tough opponent like Australia or England. If they had prepared a track with some sort of assistance to the bowlers, then the chances were that still India would have won. With rain expected to play a disruptive role (I heard that the Indian domestic matches also got washed away today), it will be difficult to get a result. I hope India steps up the scoring rate tomorrow (they still have 10 wickets in hand) and declare their innings after scoring 450-500, rather than giving the batsmen an opportunity to improve their records.

BTW, I had watched all the five matches of the Ashes series which was completed less than a month back. I enjoyed watching those matches. But today's match between India and SA was really boring. And if you want to find reason for why fans are losing interest in test cricket, then you have the perfect example. Such surfaces drive fans away from test cricket.
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Rohit back in form. So good to see him getting 100+ on the first day and India not losing one wicket. After a long time seeing the openers do well for the team else it used to be either Shikhar and recently Rohit getting out for a duck.

Good decision to bat first but rain again created a hurdle. Rain was not predicted and while it's so hot now. 4 hours - almost half day wasted.

I predict the score to be 450+ when India decide to declare. Even if they lose wickets, still 400 is on their target.  Looks like they should win by an innings and this time Virat should choose to follow-on.

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Well it's looking like a batting paradise. A big slap to the haters who said it was a bad idea for Rohit to open up in Test Matches. They both are playing pretty comfortably and even Keshav Maharaj isn't able to get anything out of this surface. Speaking of which reminds me of the fact that even Indians are going up with two spinner and two pacers if pitch doesn't proves to be helpful to spinner then maybe India is going to face some troubles while bowling too.

Nobody would question Rohit's mettle in a home series because he has better stats at home series than abroad series in tests.



As you can see the difference in the average is huge. So, the main question is whether he'll be able to improve himself in the away series as an opener.

Edit: IND 202/0
Rohit performs well, and he scores good unexpected. Rohit is one of the player who has been into the team even when his performance was not upto the level required by that time. This is all because of politics that is found within the team selection. Those chance provided is the one that helped him recover himself playing good. Whether it is on the home town or away, he used to give an average performance in at least one match out of three.
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no one can replace players like Kapil Dev, Gavaskar, Sachin, Sehwag, Dravid, MSD and the captaincy brilliance of Ganguly, he made the foundation when India was struggling and now we have a bench strength of good players .
Ganguly was a decent captain at best and I feel that MSD laid the foundation by replacing the older players with new talent which worked wonders for India in the long term.

I do not think that it is an outstanding performance from the Indian openers as the pitch was not giving any assistance to the bowlers and the pitch was flat in the first day which gives you an idea how the match will go, weather is also not that great and expect sessions to be missed in the next days too and it will end up in a draw.
202/0 is not an outstanding performance? Hilarious. Rohit and Mayank set up the perfect start for India and I highly doubt this will end in a draw. This looks like a win for India all the way at this point. Even if it rains later, I am expecting India to pack up the South African lineup pretty quickly.

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