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Quote from: BALIK on January 27, 2024, 07:04:21 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on January 27, 2024, 06:24:58 AM

Excellent batting effort from England. Tbh, in the last decade or so I don't remember any visiting side testing Indians that much in the 3rd innings of any match. It's a very new experience for the Indian bowling line up and England can take full credit for that.

Ollie Pope just played a perfect inning, in recent times only Smith achieved this sort of feat in India so props to Pope. If England reaches 200 lead then Ladies we are up for some finish in this test match and all 3 results are on the card.

After batting so badly in the first innings, I didn't think we would see such a great comeback from England in the second innings. But it is not possible to say that every batsman of England has batted well. With the help of Ollie Pope's 148 runs, at the end of the third day, England accumulated 316 runs for the loss of 6 wickets.

Zak Crawley, Duckett, and Foakes batted somewhat well. We don't see better batting than Joe Root, Bairstwo and Stokes. However, if Ollie Pope's innings extends further in the coming days, England will be able to provide a descent target. If this pitch can deliver 250+ targets I think it will be enough to win.

Can't blame those 3 much because all of em lost their wickets to peach deliveries.

Bumrah set it up Root nicely with the outswingers + slower ones and out of nowhere came an inswinger. Similarly, Jadeja bowled 2 freaking deliveries from the same trajectory, one turned enough to put some doubt on Bairstow's mind and the next ball just straightened up and rattled his timber.

Ashwin also did the same with Stokes. He was setting up Stokes nicely for the last 2 overs, forcing him to play and testing his defense and finally, it paid off.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 27, 2024, 06:24:58 AM

If England reaches 200 lead then Ladies we are up for some finish in this test match and all 3 results are on the card.

Did you just assume everyone's gender to ladies? Grin

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Quote from: libert19 on January 27, 2024, 06:23:41 AM

We close the day and England is leading with 126 runs, brilliant innings from Ollie Pope, everytime I hear this name, Lollypop comes to the mind, anyway he's unbeaten at 148 and with 4 wickets in hand I like to hope they'll be able to give 200 runs lead minimum tomorrow, 250 the better, and we see India on crease somewhere in second session.

It must be said that after England were all out for 246 runs in the first innings, it was beyond my imagination that England would come back like this in the second innings. However, apart from Ollie Pope's 148 runs, no other batsman could have scored such a significant run, that is, no one had scored a half-century. For England's second innings I would say one man army Ollie Pope alone has managed to add 316 runs to the scoreboard so far this innings. But till now England's lead of 126 runs will not be a big target for India, but if they can bowl out England before the lead of 200 runs tomorrow, India will definitely have a high chance of winning.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 27, 2024, 06:24:58 AM

If England reaches 200 lead then Ladies we are up for some finish in this test match and all 3 results are on the card.

Did you just assume everyone's gender to ladies? Grin

Quote from: BALIK on January 27, 2024, 07:04:21 AM

We don't see better batting than Joe Root, Bairstwo and Stokes. However, if Ollie Pope's innings extends further in the coming days, England will be able to provide a descent target. If this pitch can deliver 250+ targets I think it will be enough to win.

Joe Root hasn't been living up to his name, been a while, England needs his batting services as well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 27, 2024, 06:24:58 AM

Excellent batting effort from England. Tbh, in the last decade or so I don't remember any visiting side testing Indians that much in the 3rd innings of any match. It's a very new experience for the Indian bowling line up and England can take full credit for that.

Ollie Pope just played a perfect inning, in recent times only Smith achieved this sort of feat in India so props to Pope. If England reaches 200 lead then Ladies we are up for some finish in this test match and all 3 results are on the card.

After batting so badly in the first innings, I didn't think we would see such a great comeback from England in the second innings. But it is not possible to say that every batsman of England has batted well. With the help of Ollie Pope's 148 runs, at the end of the third day, England accumulated 316 runs for the loss of 6 wickets.

Zak Crawley, Duckett, and Foakes batted somewhat well. We don't see better batting than Joe Root, Bairstwo and Stokes. However, if Ollie Pope's innings extends further in the coming days, England will be able to provide a descent target. If this pitch can deliver 250+ targets I think it will be enough to win.

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Excellent batting effort from England. Tbh, in the last decade or so I don't remember any visiting side testing Indians that much in the 3rd innings of any match. It's a very new experience for the Indian bowling line up and England can take full credit for that.

Ollie Pope just played a perfect inning, in recent times only Smith achieved this sort of feat in India so props to Pope. If England reaches 200 lead then Ladies we are up for some finish in this test match and all 3 results are on the card.

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We close the day and England is leading with 126 runs, brilliant innings from Ollie Pope, everytime I hear this name, Lollypop comes to the mind, anyway he's unbeaten at 148 and with 4 wickets in hand I like to hope they'll be able to give 200 runs lead minimum tomorrow, 250 the better, and we see India on crease somewhere in second session.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 26, 2024, 11:33:13 PM

Anyone following West Indies vs Australia? A lot was talked about Tagenarine Chanderpaul before this series. But so far has has turned out to be a big disappointment. In the first test, he got out for 6 and 0. And in the second test he made 21 and 4. He has made a total of 31 runs from 4 innings. Two decades ago, Ramnaresh Sarwan had a similar disastrous tour of Australia. Tagenarine's struggles remind me of that era. Anyway, West Indies has performed better than what was expected from them so far in the second test.

West Indies performed very poorly in the second innings compared to the first innings. West Indies were bowled out for 193 in the second innings, Australia set a target of 215. Tagenarine Chanderpaul has had a very poor performance in the Australia series, although he has played 10 Test matches so far, scoring 560 runs. He has one fifty, one century, 1 double century in Test cricket. However, Australia had already dropped into the batting, with Australia amassing 30 runs for one wicket in eight overs. Australia need only 186 runs. 15 more overs to play today. I think Australia will win easily in the first session in coming days.

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Quote from: elevates on January 27, 2024, 05:24:39 AM

Pope is getting his century at a time when England needed the most. He is still going strong with ease and is now targeting 150 runs for himself and the team. England has a lead of 67 runs which is quite good considering most of their top batters are now out. None of the Indian bowlers can break this partnership and looking at Rohit's face it seems he is not happy with what is happening now. I do not think that India will be able get another wicket today as only an hour is left for the day to end.

With Ollie Pope's brilliant century, England are now 275 for the loss of 6 wickets. Ollie Pope is still unbeaten with 175 runs. If experienced batsmen like Ben Stokes, Root and Bairstwo play well, England team would have been able to collect 400+ in the second innings.

However, Pope is batting very responsibly. The England team has managed to take a lead of 86 runs. If England can take a lead like 220-250 then I would say they have a chance to win. But if the target is less than 200 then India will win. England's bowlers are not able to bowl well on this pitch. So almost every batsman in India has played well.

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Quote from: MusaPk on January 27, 2024, 04:49:47 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 26, 2024, 11:33:13 PM

Anyone following West Indies vs Australia? A lot was talked about Tagenarine Chanderpaul before this series. But so far has has turned out to be a big disappointment. In the first test, he got out for 6 and 0. And in the second test he made 21 and 4. He has made a total of 31 runs from 4 innings. Two decades ago, Ramnaresh Sarwan had a similar disastrous tour of Australia. Tagenarine's struggles remind me of that era. Anyway, West Indies has performed better than what was expected from them so far in the second test.

Tagenarine Chanderpaul is a total failure in this series. He is struggling to give performance like his father Shivnarine Chanderpaul. In his 17 test innings he has scored only 1 century and 1 fifty.
West Indies were going good today but they lost the track once they lost wicket of Kavem Hodge. This time there is no one who did the repair work for Windies. 9 wickets have gone down and WI lead is 211 runs, they are short of 100 runs of what could be a winning target. Aussies won’t find it difficult to chase something around 225.

West Indies played very well in the first innings. They were able to make a huge collection of 311 runs. The performance of the bowlers was also satisfactory. Even in the second innings, if the West Indies batsmen could have batted a little better and managed to collect like 250, then maybe they would have been able to win the match.

West Indies mustered only 193 runs in their second innings. West Indies have been able to provide a target of only 216 runs. Although the performance of the Australian batsmen has been erratic, I don't think it will be a difficult task for Australia to collect 216 runs. Australia scored 23 runs without losing any wicket.

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Pope is getting his century at a time when England needed the most. He is still going strong with ease and is now targeting 150 runs for himself and the team. England has a lead of 67 runs which is quite good considering most of their top batters are now out. None of the Indian bowlers can break this partnership and looking at Rohit's face it seems he is not happy with what is happening now. I do not think that India will be able get another wicket today as only an hour is left for the day to end.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 26, 2024, 11:33:13 PM

Anyone following West Indies vs Australia? A lot was talked about Tagenarine Chanderpaul before this series. But so far has has turned out to be a big disappointment. In the first test, he got out for 6 and 0. And in the second test he made 21 and 4. He has made a total of 31 runs from 4 innings. Two decades ago, Ramnaresh Sarwan had a similar disastrous tour of Australia. Tagenarine's struggles remind me of that era. Anyway, West Indies has performed better than what was expected from them so far in the second test.

Tagenarine Chanderpaul is a total failure in this series. He is struggling to give performance like his father Shivnarine Chanderpaul. In his 17 test innings he has scored only 1 century and 1 fifty.
West Indies were going good today but they lost the track once they lost wicket of Kavem Hodge. This time there is no one who did the repair work for Windies. 9 wickets have gone down and WI lead is 211 runs, they are short of 100 runs of what could be a winning target. Aussies won’t find it difficult to chase something around 225.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 27, 2024, 03:52:45 AM

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Meanwhile, England playing at ~6 RR (115/2, 20 overs) and they are up for a fight, looking at batting lineup left specially Ben Stokes, England might be able to give lead of 150-200 runs for India's second inning.

England inning is downhill since then, lost three more wickets without scoring much, run rate also has plummeted down a lot, Ben Stokes also gone, now if they are able to give 100 runs lead it'll be a W for them, that too I think will largely depend on O Pope's wicket, he goes and this match is done for.

England's performance in the second innings is slightly better than the first innings. England's top order batted very poorly in the first innings. If Ben Stokes did not play a big innings, England could not have collected 200 runs.

Ben Stokes collected only 6 runs in the second innings. But Ollie Pope is batting very responsibly. Pope remains unbeaten with 83 runs. And England managed to collect 200 runs by losing 5 wickets. England team has managed to take a lead of 10 runs. If England can deliver the target of 200 runs then the match is likely to become a competitive one.

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Ollie Pope destroying the hopes of a good and easy win for India. He has been going well against every type of Indian bowling attack and has been calm and precise with his stroke selection. They have a smal lead but they can make it big if Foakes keep on supporting Pope. I think it is time to introduce Ashwin back into attack or try Shiraj who has only bowled 2 overs so far. I am suprised Rohit is not considering him at this time when other bowlers are not able get the wicket of Pope. Sometime he has been effective in and sometimes he does leak runs. I think Rohit should give him a try and relax Bhumrah who has bowled his 10th over.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on January 26, 2024, 12:31:28 PM

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200 lead looks like an almost done deal and at the same time Jaddu should be a little selfish as well, he has a good chance of scoring 100 here and should not throw this opportunity as Test 100s never come easy. He has a bad habit of throwing his wicket the next day whenever he sees off a day brilliantly.

I hope he will score his ton tomorrow, after looking at England bowling attack they look helpless, and I can't tolerate watching 5 game series if these are their front line bowlers from a country where cricket is originated. Finally, a part timer Joe root is the best of their spin bowling attack. I hope this match won't last beyond 3rd day because the result is so obvious but what England can do better if they want to fight back?

As of now, this series looks 5-0 to me.

Well, it's not the first time he missed the ton and it happened today again.

Indian fans should calm their tits lol. Whitewash would be better but it's not an easy task in a long series. So far England has shown enough intent with the bat and at patches Indian bowlers had to come in huddles and revisit their strategy and it's a rare sight. With a positive mindset, their batters should succeed at least 1 time in the remaining 8 innings. The main question would be if they are capable of sustaining this brand of cricket against Indian bowlers in a consistent manner.

One can take a hint from their 2nd Inning today. The top 3 played a fine knock and disturbed the Indian spinner's line n length but Bumrah came out of the syllabus with his freaking in-swingers, followed by unbelievable wicket-taking balls from Ashwin and Jadeja against Stokes and Bairstow (loved his Pikachu face after getting knocked out).

True their bowlers look ridiculously bad but they will adjust to their length as the series progresses.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 27, 2024, 02:11:52 AM

Meanwhile, England playing at ~6 RR (115/2, 20 overs) and they are up for a fight, looking at batting lineup left specially Ben Stokes, England might be able to give lead of 150-200 runs for India's second inning.

England inning is downhill since then, lost three more wickets without scoring much, run rate also has plummeted down a lot, Ben Stokes also gone, now if they are able to give 100 runs lead it'll be a W for them, that too I think will largely depend on O Pope's wicket, he goes and this match is done for.

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Quote from: Bureau on January 27, 2024, 02:48:35 AM

Everyone expected what you expected but reality is different. Jadeja missed out of his 100. Axar missed out of his 50 and India were able to give a lead of 190 runs. The lead is just 10 runs shorter to you expectation. The current situation is not that good for England. They have lost 3 wickets and still trail by 54 runs. Another wicket before tea will reduce the run flow of the English team.

Yes everyone expected that Ravindra Jadeja might complete his Test century but he failed. Three Indian batsmen came close to the century but missed the century. However, KL Rahul missed the century by just 14 runs and Ravindra Jadeja missed the century by just thirteen runs. They missed their century by a few runs which they would later regret.

At present, the batting situation of England team is not very good, they have lost five wickets out of 175 runs and they are still 18 runs behind India. Now England is in such a situation, I think they can give a target of 200 runs to the Indian team.If the England team gives the Indian team a target of 200 runs, I think India will easily win this test match against England.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on January 27, 2024, 01:56:11 AM

England team is performing very well in the second innings so far one wicket has fallen, thus if England team can perform well then surely India team can pay trail 89 runs so far. England's opening batsman has performed very well today. India's bowling is not in favor of a good performance today. But I think England team has a chance to win today if they perform well.

I don't think England is performing well. England didn't bowl very well in the first innings. India took a lead of 190 runs in the first innings. Struggling to manage the lead of 190 runs, where England lost 5 wickets for 163 runs in the second innings. Only Ollie Pope in the top order has survived on the pitch, I don't think the lower order batsmen will be able to put up much resistance on the pitch. England will need a big partnership to survive the match. The match is now in India's control, I don't see any chance of England winning this match except for India.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 27, 2024, 02:11:52 AM

What I thought will happen today. Sir Jadeja will make a century, Axar will make fifty, Jadeja-Axar will make partnership of 100 runs and India will give lead of 200 runs,

And what happens? None that I expected, not a single one.

Everyone expected what you expected but reality is different. Jadeja missed out of his 100. Axar missed out of his 50 and India were able to give a lead of 190 runs. The lead is just 10 runs shorter to you expectation. The current situation is not that good for England. They have lost 3 wickets and still trail by 54 runs. Another wicket before tea will reduce the run flow of the English team.

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Quote from: libert19 on January 27, 2024, 02:11:52 AM

What I thought will happen today. Sir Jadeja will make a century, Axar will make fifty, Jadeja-Axar will make partnership of 100 runs and India will give lead of 200 runs,

And what happens? None that I expected, not a single one.

Meanwhile, England playing at ~6 RR (115/2, 20 overs) and they are up for a fight, looking at batting lineup left specially Ben Stokes, England might be able to give lead of 150-200 runs for India's second inning.

India went to the defensive more since the day starts and can't able to make strokes at all apart from that two cover drives from Axar which was so pleasing to watch. But finally England bowlers stoke at the end.

Even though England keep their scoreboard ticking, now the Bumrah is showing his skill level and what he can do in a day 3 dead pitch, dismissal Duckett came after the firey spell because they missed taking DRS for LBW shout but in his very next over dismissed him and then the most important Joe Root as well.

150 target or even 250 is still a cakewalk for India because of their below average spin attack.

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What I thought will happen today. Sir Jadeja will make a century, Axar will make fifty, Jadeja-Axar will make partnership of 100 runs and India will give lead of 200 runs,

And what happens? None that I expected, not a single one.

Meanwhile, England playing at ~6 RR (115/2, 20 overs) and they are up for a fight, looking at batting lineup left specially Ben Stokes, England might be able to give lead of 150-200 runs for India's second inning.

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