Topic: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] - page 318. (Read 167969 times)

Where do you guys see such kind of conspiracy theories?

Australian cricket board is not poor and they see test cricket as a pride till date, that is why the Ashes is something special for Australia. Team India evolved a lot and found new talents in the last 15 years which changed the dimension of Indian cricket so they started doing better than the previous era Indian team but ICC trophy yet to arrive with such amount of talent but it doesn't mean team India is weak and they are paying for their opponents to lose.

I am sorry if I am hurting your feelings as I have no intention to talk about this topic because I have feeling this all is useless but as you saying again and again India beats Australia in last few years again and again then I found the reason about this, so please give some details about this as well because you better understand cricket and all things than me hopefully you will give correct view why Australians are losing again and again.

Most of the time Australians are happy to do business with the teams which are giving them good profit and currently India mean profit in cricket, so just because of this we have Australians losing again and again against India in last one decade.

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IMO That's a horrible way to look at test format, saying this because you brought AFG so you are talking about all formats and we are discussing only test cricket.

First, There is virtually no doubt that Australia is an ICC tournament beast and at the same time, there is no requirement to take any sort of inspiration from White ball cricket regarding test cricket because bilateral cricket in white ball cricket is pretty much dead and it has no relevance in the world cricket, except filling the calender and talent hunting ground for teams.

For test cricket, well look at it this way.

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England: In the last 2 years, very competitive at home. Historically, clueless in Australia and India but under BAZBALL there might be some hope. Competitive in SA, NZ. The rest of the teams hardly matter because they don't have strong or consistent teams or England takes these tours as practice matches.

Australia: Dominant side at home against every team except India. Competitive against every team in away conditions, they draw and win series here n there regularly but it's been 2 decades for AUS to win any series in India.

India: No matter who is touring them, they just don't lose anything. In the last 12 years, they lost only 3-4 test matches. They also started winning in SENA conditions which wasn't the case before. Away/Home Series against BAN, WI and SL offer no glory to Indian players unless you are new or debutant and these series only come alive when these teams put in some sort of effort or compete against India.
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SA: At times Competetive and dominant at home but not so when they tour.

NZ: Dominant at home and competitive in England but always perform shit in Australia and India.  

SL: Competetive at home and surprising in SA too but now they are in a dire situation.

PAK: In their last home season against Aus, Eng and NZ they failed to win a single match and they are not a good touring side as well unless they are playing against SL,Ban, WI. Sometimes they do compete in England though.

WI and BAN : Hopeless.

We can't justify anything here with our stats and calculation because main thing is who is winning and who is taking silverware with currently Australia is leading country, and they are doing impressive work with their quality and consistency even there is no doubt India is also good side with their recent results in all formats but still they are choking which is fact, and they need to overcome these weak points if they also want to have any mark around the cricketing world.

Australia is winning against weaker sides so can you justify South Africa is strong side or Afghanistan is strong side as all are having same level teams and same level conditions, but Australia is good and aggressive with they are also having best cricketing system which is producing the best players which are giving their best in all conditions.

You are right if we talk about Australia vs Pakistan test match Australia did really well. Australia's batsmen batted brilliantly and they won the Test series against Pakistan very easily due to their excellent bowling. Keeping that consistency, Australia is performing very well against Pakistan, it is expected that they will easily beat the West Indies in the Test series. Australia bowled out West Indies for just 188 runs in the first Test match. The Australian team is expected to end the lead of 188 runs and target the West Indies with a big run. Let's see how many runs Australia can target in the end.

Australia,England and India playing cricket is very good here I disagree with you about England because England perform very bad in cricket game they need a lot of improvement but south is considered as a good team and they played great in test match this year. South Africa has performed much better than India this time. So India need some more improvement to overtake South Africa. If not, South Africa will beat India in this Test match

We currently have three best test playing countries Australia, England and India with we need some improvement in South Africa, Pakistan and New Zealand but things are not going as they needed which is leading this format into trouble, but there is no doubt still we have good potential, and we can expect good matches with exciting results even this current Australian season is not ideal as they look for because of poor quality of Pakistan and now West Indies which is surely not good for future of test cricket.

After end of the first day play, Australia having advantage and most chances they will win this match quickly and with big margin because West Indies' batting is also not good compared to recently concluded Pakistan series which is because of lack of strong domestic system, but sadly things are not going as West Indies needed.

Yeah, I mentioned this point in my previous posts " Only Piss poor in ICC knockouts". In this department, Australia got an immense edge over India.

But in Test format, they are slightly lagging. One main parameter to judge is to just look at how both of these teams perform in each other's territories. The last time Australia won test series in India was way back in 2003-04 and India has won 2 series in Australia.

Don't judge Australia performance when they are up against low ranking teams like Pakistan or Windies, especially when they are playing at home. One can make an argument for an away series though, even against low ranking teams because most of the teams are largely dominating at home.

Aussie bowlers made it look easy, consistently taking wickets and causing trouble for the opposition batsmen. Their impressive stats speak itself, highlighting that Test cricket remains a game dominated by bowlers. This Aussie unit seems unstoppable, and it's expected that they will continue their dominance on their own turf against West Indies as well.

Another bonus for the Australians is the fact that they are playing the series on their own turf which is why these are easy points for them and will help them solidify their position in the WTC final later on.

Am not expecting the Windies to win any match, but I hope they don't make it too easy for the Australians.

After the Test series between Pakistan and Australia that ended a few days ago, the Test match between West Indies and Australia has started. Pakistan lost the Test series and West Indies are following the same path against Australia. West Indies were all out for 188 in the first innings and at the end of the first day so far Australia have collected 59 for 2 but Australia are trailing by 159 runs so far. But it is true that if Australia can bat in the first innings and give a lead of 200 runs then there is definitely a possibility that Australia will lose by an innings.

In the match between Australia and West Indies, WI was expected to don't do well in Australian conditions. Apart from McKenzie, no other batter showed some resistance; in the end, it was a piece of cake for the Aussies bowlers. Hazelwood and Cummins were exceptional with the ball. In response, AUS are 2 down for 59 runs. Smith's outing as an opener was not fruitful, hopefully, he will perform well in the upcoming innings.  This will be an easy win for AUS

West Indies lost all wickets after scoring 188 runs in the first innings on the first day. It is very less runs in test matches we have seen that in t20 matches many runs are scored by each team accordingly the number of runs in test matches is very less. 188 runs is not too difficult for Australia but will be able to meet this target very quickly and give West Indies a huge lead. The current position of the West Indies team is not very good due to which no player can bat well that's why the score is not very high. But both the batting and bowling performance of the Australian team is good due to which they play brilliantly in every match and bring victory to the team. Anyway, to meet the target given by Australia West Indies in today's match, they need to collect 129 runs on the first day only, they currently collect 59 runs after losing 3 wickets.

Great analysis. I do feel that Australia is leading the ranking board in the test format though India is definitely not close behind. India's biggest issue is that they keep choking in crucial encounters.

The big ICC cup winners are remembered to a greater extent when compared to smaller tournament(Home and Away) winners.

The pitch is not batting friendly, it was understood in the first innings of West Indies. At the end of the first day, Australia lost 2 wickets and collected 59 runs. The Australian team is still 129 runs behind the West Indies. Opener Usman Khawja is batting very responsibly. Usman Khawaja remains unbeaten with 30 runs. Also Cameroon Green is batting very carefully. He is unbeaten with 6 runs from 22 balls. If these two batsmen can do well in the early next day, I would say Australia can collect around 300. And if Australia start losing wickets at the beginning of the day, then maybe Australia will lose all wickets within 200-230. It will be very difficult to score 300 runs on this pitch.

Pitch is favourable for the batsmen and bowlers as well but as we have things with Pakistan same are going to happen with West Indian batsmen which are now not having quality and technique to handle this all so they lost wickets cheaply early, and then we have all dominance by the Australian bowlers which wrap them quickly and Kirk McKenzie done some resistance which able to complete his fifty 23 years old playing his second test match done good work before going out with Hazlewood done impressive work to clean all top order batsmen then we have Cummins who took 4 wickets and bowled out West Indies at the score of 188.

In replay West Indies also have some success and have two early wickets with Usman Khawaja and Cameroon Green on crease we can expect this match is going to be ended in three or four days because if we have one or two big innings from Australians then they will not bat again.

2 wickets gone in quick succession, looks like the pitch favors bowlers. Marnus Labuschagne was out for only 10 runs before Smith got out for 12 runs and both wickets were taken by Shamar Joseph. WI has got the initial breakthrough and two good batters are back in the pavilion now they need to continue their attack. Australia still trailing by 136 runs and it does seem that the Australian batting is struggling to get those runs. The betting odds favour Australia and they still have batters left to get those runs.
 

The West Indies cricket team has traveled to Australia to play a full series against Australia. Australia and West Indies will play two Tests, three ODIs and three T20Is. 
In the first match of the Test series, West Indies entered the field against Australia where West Indies collected 128 runs at the end of the first innings. In other words, the Caribbean batsmen were all out very quickly in the first innings of the first test match. Australia has managed to collect 45 runs for 2 wickets by batting in their first innings so far. That is, according to the current position, Australia is still behind by 146 runs, but at the end of the day, it may be seen that Australia ends the first innings ahead of the West Indies. 

Having been bowled out for just 188 runs in the first innings, the second innings must have been much more challenging for the Caribbean batsmen as the second innings would certainly have added pressure on the batsmen.

West Indies batsmen could not stay at the crease for long against Josh Hazlewood and Pat Cummins. West Indies' innings stopped at just 188 runs. McKenzie scored a maximum of 50 runs. Hazlewood and Cummins took 4 wickets each. I had higher expectations from the West Indies batsmen. I did not think that they will not be able to collect even 200 runs.

Australian batsmen are not batting well either. Australian batsmen are also facing a lot of trouble to score runs as the pitch is bowling friendly. Australia lost two wickets in 15 overs and managed to collect 43 runs. Australia team is still behind West Indies by 143 runs.

Hazelwood and Cummins destroyed the WI batting, each taking 4 wickets. As expected WI a much weaker side then Australia were bowled out for only 188 runs. The Australian first innings did go well as they have already lost their opener Smith. He was only able to get 12 runs, I was not expecting a bad start from the Australian batters. Now the point is can WI wrap up the Australian innings belwo 200 runs? I doubt it but if they could then this test match would become interesting.