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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 03, 2021, 08:11:08 AM

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Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

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I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

I was also following this test match and really surprised with Indian women attitude as these ladies was on top against experienced Aussie women even just playing third second or third test match. But here most Guilty party is BCCI as they can go ahead with few things which are in their own control, but they are not doing. Like you said, WIPL could be more beneficiary for women in India and can bring some good number of girls in this game which could be bringing some good quality and competition. And after this they can also create 5 or 6 women cricket teams for local 3 or 4 days matches which also bring more experience and awareness which can bring them top of rank in near future because currently these already done more than expectations.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on October 03, 2021, 08:11:08 AM

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Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 03, 2021, 07:45:15 AM

Well, to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

The match will surely end in a draw, not because it was restricted for 4-days, but because of the overs lost to bad weather. Australia made 36/2 in the second innings. It was a near-impossible task for India to take 10 Australian wickets in 15 overs, and unsurprisingly they failed to do so. Indian pace attack, as usual heavily dependent on Jhulan Goswami (but this time got support from Pooja Vastrakar). Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

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If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?
Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

We have many concerns which need some good talk, but sadly it's not happening authorities prefer profit and their own benefits so just because of this we have many rules which can changed for better results, but it's not happening. Main issue is they have no women as consultants and fix things by their own.
Right now India in safe zone they have 250 runs lead, but we have just 40 overs remaining in last day of match which is not helping for any cause so better give your batsmen some practice and feel happy that first match against Australia ends on good note for India as they were on top of game against a quality opponent.

Well, to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on October 03, 2021, 12:15:28 AM

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?

Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

We have many concerns which need some good talk, but sadly it's not happening authorities prefer profit and their own benefits so just because of this we have many rules which can changed for better results, but it's not happening. Main issue is they have no women as consultants and fix things by their own.

Right now India in safe zone they have 250 runs lead, but we have just 40 overs remaining in last day of match which is not helping for any cause so better give your batsmen some practice and feel happy that first match against Australia ends on good note for India as they were on top of game against a quality opponent.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 02, 2021, 03:24:30 PM

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?

Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

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A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

I would personally like to see more Test matches from Woman and this match is a draw because weather played a major role in this match and it is sad that they are only playing one Test in this tour and more over Woman Test matches are 4 days long unlike the men's version, so there is no way we would see a result in this match as there is only one day left and i would be surprised if any of the team plays a second innings.

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

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Quote from: add1ct3dd on October 02, 2021, 07:56:19 AM

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A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

I would personally like to see more Test matches from Woman and this match is a draw because weather played a major role in this match and it is sad that they are only playing one Test in this tour and more over Woman Test matches are 4 days long unlike the men's version, so there is no way we would see a result in this match as there is only one day left and i would be surprised if any of the team plays a second innings.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 02, 2021, 02:23:20 AM

The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

D Sharma is still batting and I think if she continues then a score of 400 or more can be accomplished. Indeed considering the Australian team, Indian team has done pretty well. The problem is that Indian team has lot 7 wickets and it will tough for the tail enders to support D Sharma.

A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

Indian women are playing just their 3rd test but still on top of game against women from Australia those are very experienced and sometime back won against England women it's really amazing for me and fans like me in homeland Most chances we are going to have result as draw as one all day is washed out and now today end of third day we are in first inning of Australia trailing by 245 with 4 out not ideal situation for them, but Indian ladies can do some better for their first win if they play some attacking game.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 02, 2021, 02:23:20 AM

The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

Thanks to great knock by Smriti Mandhana and Deepti Sharma, India made 377 runs. Other players also contributed well by scoring in 30s. Overall its good batting performance by Indian-W team.
Till now Aus-W batting is not as good as it should be. Still they have 6 wickets in hands and anything can happen. Mostly likely the match will end up in draw.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on October 02, 2021, 02:23:20 AM

The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

D Sharma is still batting and I think if she continues then a score of 400 or more can be accomplished. Indeed considering the Australian team, Indian team has done pretty well. The problem is that Indian team has lot 7 wickets and it will tough for the tail enders to support D Sharma.

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The Indian women's team batted first and scored 346 runs, losing just six wickets. India's performance against a strong team like the Australian women's team is very commendable. As the days go by, the Indian Woman's teams are improving a lot, they become more stronger day by day. The Australian team decided to bowl after winning the toss but so far they have not been able to do anything good. Most likely the match is most likely to be a draw.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on October 01, 2021, 04:29:44 PM

These rules apply in soccer as players must play for national team instead of club, but sadly we are not able to do this in cricket IPL is multi-billion project and big three taking good profit from this, so they will never allow this even we are losing beauty of cricket. In man cases, we already lost this all but now as IPL organizers bringing some more teams, so this is going more lengthy and panic for other events in cricket and ICC is looking this all just as dumb case.

IPL is beyond any doubt a multi billion dollar business and is the top preference for boards and Players these days. I want to know how T20 leagues are benefiting ICC? Because players are not playing for the national sides, tour are cancelled or rescheduled because of it. If its good for cricket then ICC must stop bilateral tours since they are getting worthless because of players unavailability.

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Quote from: ene1980 on October 01, 2021, 06:09:03 PM

The ICC gives preference to national duty because that is how they earn money. I am not sure how much they earn with these franchise cricket. The shorter format has attracted many viewers to the game and there is no debate on that.

The ICC neither benefits from the franchise leagues, nor from the bilateral tours. Their revenue comes only from world cups and other tournaments that are organized by the ICC. So for the ICC, it is meaningless to get involved in this mess and it needs to be sorted out between the players and the board. My opinion is that the players have the option to chose. The so called "national boards" are private entities and they are not owned by the government. Playing for these boards is akin to working in a private enterprise.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on October 01, 2021, 03:53:36 PM

I have to disagree with you. IMO, franchise leagues have done more to cricket than meaningless bilateral tours.

If it is competitive cricket, i do not mind, but i hate watching one sided games and i would not call every bilateral tours meaningless.

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I don't see any reason to give preference to national duty over franchise cricket. Perhaps the ICC can make it mandatory for the players to appear for their respective countries in world cups. Other than that, there should not be any restrictions. T20 leagues have brought new fans and money in to cricket. Test cricket on the other hand has played a large part in driving out younger fans and making cricket more unpopular.

The ICC gives preference to national duty because that is how they earn money. I am not sure how much they earn with these franchise cricket. The shorter format has attracted many viewers to the game and there is no debate on that.

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Such a rule will not work, as already posted previously.

The player will simply refuse to enter in to a contract with the national cricket board. Look at all the South African players. They refuse contracts from CSA, and now play domestic cricket in England, New Zealand or the United States due to the quota policy. And as long as they are not contracted, the national cricket board can't do anything against them. But if a player is contracted, then obviously he needs to follow whatever the board tells him. If the board ask him not to play in any of the franchise leagues, then he doesn't have any other choice but to follow that.

Its not good for cricket then. Players first choice will be T20 leagues not the national side matches. We have seen so many test, ODI and T20I series where teams were playing with new players as senior players went to play leagues.
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These rules apply in soccer as players must play for national team instead of club, but sadly we are not able to do this in cricket IPL is multi-billion project and big three taking good profit from this, so they will never allow this even we are losing beauty of cricket. In man cases, we already lost this all but now as IPL organizers bringing some more teams, so this is going more lengthy and panic for other events in cricket and ICC is looking this all just as dumb case.

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Quote from: bitgov on October 01, 2021, 02:15:04 PM

Its not good for cricket then. Players first choice will be T20 leagues not the national side matches. We have seen so many test, ODI and T20I series where teams were playing with new players as senior players went to play leagues.
Shane Warne: Countries should stop picking players who choose IPL over international duty
IPL harming West Indies cricket, says Carl Hooper

I have to disagree with you. IMO, franchise leagues have done more to cricket than meaningless bilateral tours. I don't see any reason to give preference to national duty over franchise cricket. Perhaps the ICC can make it mandatory for the players to appear for their respective countries in world cups. Other than that, there should not be any restrictions. T20 leagues have brought new fans and money in to cricket. Test cricket on the other hand has played a large part in driving out younger fans and making cricket more unpopular.

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Such a rule will not work, as already posted previously.

The player will simply refuse to enter in to a contract with the national cricket board. Look at all the South African players. They refuse contracts from CSA, and now play domestic cricket in England, New Zealand or the United States due to the quota policy. And as long as they are not contracted, the national cricket board can't do anything against them. But if a player is contracted, then obviously he needs to follow whatever the board tells him. If the board ask him not to play in any of the franchise leagues, then he doesn't have any other choice but to follow that.

Its not good for cricket then. Players first choice will be T20 leagues not the national side matches. We have seen so many test, ODI and T20I series where teams were playing with new players as senior players went to play leagues.
Shane Warne: Countries should stop picking players who choose IPL over international duty
IPL harming West Indies cricket, says Carl Hooper

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Quote from: sovie on September 30, 2021, 12:44:18 PM

My point is that there must be some regulation that national side schedule should not be disturbed by any league just like we see in other sports. In the end its the national side that highlights the player to be picked by T20 Leagues. How many players are picked up in leagues that haven't played any international cricket? So boards have the right to made it compulsory for players to remain available for national side. Its board that should decide not the players.

Such a rule will not work, as already posted previously.

The player will simply refuse to enter in to a contract with the national cricket board. Look at all the South African players. They refuse contracts from CSA, and now play domestic cricket in England, New Zealand or the United States due to the quota policy. And as long as they are not contracted, the national cricket board can't do anything against them. But if a player is contracted, then obviously he needs to follow whatever the board tells him. If the board ask him not to play in any of the franchise leagues, then he doesn't have any other choice but to follow that.

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I don’t agree with this how can you ask player’s to take less money, put yourself in their shoes would you accept less money for the hard work you put in no right?. However to save test cricket boards can make it mandatory to pay a x number of test matches if fit and selected, and that’s something the player’s too will accept.

My point is that there must be some regulation that national side schedule should not be disturbed by any league just like we see in other sports. In the end its the national side that highlights the player to be picked by T20 Leagues. How many players are picked up in leagues that haven't played any international cricket? So boards have the right to made it compulsory for players to remain available for national side. Its board that should decide not the players.

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