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England managed to set up such a massive total, after so long. Nice to see Ben Stokes getting a century, and Joe Root making another big score. Dan Lawrence was quite unlucky to miss his hundred. The West Indian bowling looked dull, and only Veerasammy Permaul looked impressive in parts. BTW, Matthew Fisher is making his debut for England and he has already picked up his first wicket (that of John Campbell, caught behind by Foakes). He is having a smooth bowling action and has the capability to make it big in the coming years.
Just end of second day play with score on board is 71/1 which mean they have done some good performance after big score from England, and now they have to stay at crease for long time which is possible due to this pitch behavior as it is also batting track, and we can expect one or two centuries from West Indian batsmen tomorrow first session will give us very clear picture of this test match because if English bowlers can dismiss one or two batsmen then surely they can take some healthy lead otherwise it is surely going to end another dead rubber with almost we have last three matches two in Pakistan and one in West Indies.
After seeing 2 days play I am of the view that this test will also end in a draw just like the first one until England bowlers do some magic on day 3 and bowl out WI around 300. WI board is not facing criticism that is faced by PCB for making flat pitche, don't known what's the reason for that.
The whole nation is celebrating the win as if we have won the match.
Aren't we seeing some big scores being made by the teams? First, we saw Australian and Pakistan teams making 450-500 runs in every innings of the first two test matches between them and now England here scored 500+ runs. It will not be easy for WI to score the same amount of runs. Their first target should to be to made 307 runs and avoid the follow on. If WI managed to do this, then we are heading towards the draw in this test match.
Just end of second day play with score on board is 71/1 which mean they have done some good performance after big score from England, and now they have to stay at crease for long time which is possible due to this pitch behavior as it is also batting track, and we can expect one or two centuries from West Indian batsmen tomorrow first session will give us very clear picture of this test match because if English bowlers can dismiss one or two batsmen then surely they can take some healthy lead otherwise it is surely going to end another dead rubber with almost we have last three matches two in Pakistan and one in West Indies.We have another very good test match between South Africa vs Bangladesh with most of South African players are in India for their IPL stint and Board announces they will go ahead with new players this can give some good advantage to Bangladesh which already beat New Zealand in New Zealand.
England scored 404 runs with the help of Root, Lawrence and Stokes. The partnership of ROot and Lawrence was very necessary after taking both the wickets quickly. Today, Stokes's performance is just awesome. His batting looks like it is an ODI or T20 match. He has collected 103 runs. He hit 11 fours and 4 sixes. Maybe England will declare the innings after collecting 500 runs.
As you guess, England declared their innings after collecting 507 runs. Ben Stokes' performance impressed me too. He collected 120 runs off 128 balls. And in Test matches too, he has hit 6 over boundaries. Which was awesome.
England's collection is very good. Now England can win only if the bowlers can fulfill their responsibilities properly. West Indies will bat like about 25 overs today. If England can take two wickets today, then they can control the match.
Aren't we seeing some big scores being made by the teams? First, we saw Australian and Pakistan teams making 450-500 runs in every innings of the first two test matches between them and now England here scored 500+ runs. It will not be easy for WI to score the same amount of runs. Their first target should to be to made 307 runs and avoid the follow on. If WI managed to do this, then we are heading towards the draw in this test match.
England scored 404 runs with the help of Root, Lawrence and Stokes. The partnership of ROot and Lawrence was very necessary after taking both the wickets quickly. Today, Stokes's performance is just awesome. His batting looks like it is an ODI or T20 match. He has collected 103 runs. He hit 11 fours and 4 sixes. Maybe England will declare the innings after collecting 500 runs.
As you guess, England declared their innings after collecting 507 runs. Ben Stokes' performance impressed me too. He collected 120 runs off 128 balls. And in Test matches too, he has hit 6 over boundaries. Which was awesome.England's collection is very good. Now England can win only if the bowlers can fulfill their responsibilities properly. West Indies will bat like about 25 overs today. If England can take two wickets today, then they can control the match.
Saqib Mahmood and Fisher on their test debut doing good impressive bowling but look like this pitch is not having something for any bowler if batsman want to out himself it's the only option available for bowlers with this most chances we are heading for another draw of some magic can change things in favor of England. Just six overs remaining in the day, Leach and Stokes trying their luck for something special.
But, I am really hoping that this will change in the third test match. Otherwise, it will be absolutely boring to see another 5 days of batting without any intention except for surviving. I really don't understand why they don't make a pitch that is good and suitable for both batsmen and bowlers? You know, they do have great bowlers in their squad…
England scored 404 runs with the help of Root, Lawrence and Stokes. The partnership of ROot and Lawrence was very necessary after taking both the wickets quickly. Today, Stokes's performance is just awesome. His batting looks like it is an ODI or T20 match. He has collected 103 runs. He hit 11 fours and 4 sixes. Maybe England will declare the innings after collecting 500 runs.
England has lost their first 8 wickets. The final session of day 2 has started just now and England has scored above 500 runs. Perhaps, they are going to loss all of their wickets shortly. However, England has already made a good run. West Indies players will be under pressure and we may see batting collapse during their first innings. I think England is going to win the second test match.full member
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England scored 404 runs with the help of Root, Lawrence and Stokes. The partnership of ROot and Lawrence was very necessary after taking both the wickets quickly. Today, Stokes's performance is just awesome. His batting looks like it is an ODI or T20 match. He has collected 103 runs. He hit 11 fours and 4 sixes. Maybe England will declare the innings after collecting 500 runs.
As you guess, England declared their innings after collecting 507 runs. Ben Stokes' performance impressed me too. He collected 120 runs off 128 balls. And in Test matches too, he has hit 6 over boundaries. Which was awesome.
England's collection is very good. Now England can win only if the bowlers can fulfill their responsibilities properly. West Indies will bat like about 25 overs today. If England can take two wickets today, then they can control the match.
England scored 404 runs with the help of Root, Lawrence and Stokes. The partnership of ROot and Lawrence was very necessary after taking both the wickets quickly. Today, Stokes's performance is just awesome. His batting looks like it is an ODI or T20 match. He has collected 103 runs. He hit 11 fours and 4 sixes. Maybe England will declare the innings after collecting 500 runs.
England has lost their first 8 wickets. The final session of day 2 has started just now and England has scored above 500 runs. Perhaps, they are going to loss all of their wickets shortly. However, England has already made a good run. West Indies players will be under pressure and we may see batting collapse during their first innings. I think England is going to win the second test match. I would say khi test was a historic win for Pakistan since they draw a match which was very much in Australia favour. It was difficult to come back in second innings when you are out on 148 runs. I do agree that third test pitch should be made in a way that it must bring result.
Right now we can say this draw is also win for Pakistan because staying at crease for 170 overs is never been easy for any team on any track against team like Australia, so this is without any doubt historic match for them with have some outstanding innings from top class batsmen against quality bowling.But, here we have some concerns against Cummins captaincy as well because he has done big mistake and not give follow on after this at fielding they drop few catches which make big difference but still with all this we have very exciting end of this draw test which will be remembered for many years just because of Babar and Rizwan innings which make big difference.
Now in last and final test is going to play at Lahore which is also similar pitch like we have in Rawalpindi and Karachi so most chances this series is going to end in draw which could be really poor for all fans.
England - West Indies
England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
Dan Lawrence was unlucky to bowled out on 91 runs and missed his century. Same type of bad lucks were seen yesterday by Babar Azam and Shafique when they were out on 196 and 96 runs. First test b/w WI and England ended in a draw and performance of both team is very much equal in that match. We need to wait till WI innings to see who will dominate this game. England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
They only last three wickets so they have a lot more batting to come. It was a good start by the West Indies in my opinion but the third wicket partnership really took the momentum away from them. But they would be happy to get a wicket from the last ball of the day.
England scored 404 runs with the help of Root, Lawrence and Stokes. The partnership of ROot and Lawrence was very necessary after taking both the wickets quickly. Today, Stokes's performance is just awesome. His batting looks like it is an ODI or T20 match. He has collected 103 runs. He hit 11 fours and 4 sixes. Maybe England will declare the innings after collecting 500 runs.
In test cricket generally, we see that the pitch behaves well for the first two or even three days. But after that, the pitch starts to produce something for the bowlers and especially some turn for the spinners. But these pitches just stayed the same. Absolutely flat and heavenly for batsmen. They just scored as they wished on these pitches.
But, I am really hoping that this will change in the third test match. Otherwise, it will be absolutely boring to see another 5 days of batting without any intention except for surviving. I really don't understand why they don't make a pitch that is good and suitable for both batsmen and bowlers? You know, they do have great bowlers in their squad…
I would say khi test was a historic win for Pakistan since they draw a match which was very much in Australia favour. It was difficult to come back in second innings when you are out on 148 runs. I do agree that third test pitch should be made in a way that it must bring result.
England - West Indies
England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
Dan Lawrence was unlucky to bowled out on 91 runs and missed his century. Same type of bad lucks were seen yesterday by Babar Azam and Shafique when they were out on 196 and 96 runs. First test b/w WI and England ended in a draw and performance of both team is very much equal in that match. We need to wait till WI innings to see who will dominate this game. England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
Dan Lawrence played really well for his 91 runs. It was really bad luck for him to get out like that. The captain Joe Root did get his century. And at the end of the first day, judging by the position that England is in at the moment I think it will be good if they are going to put up a really big score against West Indies.
They only last three wickets so they have a lot more batting to come. It was a good start by the West Indies in my opinion but the third wicket partnership really took the momentum away from them. But they would be happy to get a wicket from the last ball of the day.
Now i won't mind if they keep eating eachother points in 3rd test too. Rambo should create a another road like Pindi. Heard that they brought some reputed pitch creator for the last pitch so let's see what happens in Lahore, would be hilarious if they introduce another flat surface.
Yeah, in hindsight we can say that but they also dropped couple of sitters and pitch was excellent to bat on. Pitch didn't deteriorate much even on 5th day and you can't expect to win test match on such track if you're dropping regular catches so its completely their fault. May be they should have gone with the follow-on but at that time it looked right decision, if we take game situation into the account.
First 7 days of this tour were boring af but last 3 days were fun and some fine character from the both side, which is good.
Yeah, in hindsight we can say that but they also dropped couple of sitters and pitch was excellent to bat on. Pitch didn't deteriorate much even on 5th day and you can't expect to win test match on such track if you're dropping regular catches so its completely their fault. May be they should have gone with the follow-on but at that time it looked right decision, if we take game situation into the account.
First 7 days of this tour were boring af but last 3 days were fun and some fine character from the both side, which is good.
In test cricket generally, we see that the pitch behaves well for the first two or even three days. But after that, the pitch starts to produce something for the bowlers and especially some turn for the spinners. But these pitches just stayed the same. Absolutely flat and heavenly for batsmen. They just scored as they wished on these pitches.
But, I am really hoping that this will change in the third test match. Otherwise, it will be absolutely boring to see another 5 days of batting without any intention except for surviving. I really don't understand why they don't make a pitch that is good and suitable for both batsmen and bowlers? You know, they do have great bowlers in their squad…
England - West Indies
England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
Dan Lawrence was unlucky to bowled out on 91 runs and missed his century. Same type of bad lucks were seen yesterday by Babar Azam and Shafique when they were out on 196 and 96 runs. First test b/w WI and England ended in a draw and performance of both team is very much equal in that match. We need to wait till WI innings to see who will dominate this game.
England - West Indies
England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
England drew the first Test against the West Indies. But in the second match they will not want the same result. They will definitely want to win this match. They are playing with the goal of winning Ebgong. Seychelles England lost 3 wickets for 244 runs on the first day. At the end of the day, England lost Dan Lawrence's valuable wicket. Joe Root is unbeaten on 119 runs. England will be in control of the match if they manage to score 400 runs in two sessions tomorrow.
I am 100% sure that for the third test also they will create another dead track like what they did during the first two matches. The only solution is to deduct points from the host, if the match ends in a draw. If the points are equally shared, then there is an incentive for the weaker teams to ensure that the match ends in a draw. So unless there is significant loss of overs due to rain interruption or other factors, the visitors should be given additional points in case the match doesn't produce a clear result. It will discourage teams from making such tracks in the future.
So the pitch was fine when Aussies bowled out Pakistan for just 148 runs in first innings but was dead when they fight back in second innings. I don't think it's pitch but the teams are strong enough to compete. Even in second innings Aussies keep taking wikcets and were just short of 3 wickets.
I am 100% sure that for the third test also they will create another dead track like what they did during the first two matches. The only solution is to deduct points from the host, if the match ends in a draw. If the points are equally shared, then there is an incentive for the weaker teams to ensure that the match ends in a draw. So unless there is significant loss of overs due to rain interruption or other factors, the visitors should be given additional points in case the match doesn't produce a clear result. It will discourage teams from making such tracks in the future.
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We have another great escape and another 4th inning (5th day) failure of Aussie bowlers. Every time they were supposed to win or were in winning position but now it looks like more of a curse which started in Headingley, even new beautiful skipper patty couldn't do anything.
Well done Abdullah-Baba-Rizwan..
With this draw, point table is looking more competitive. Pakistan and Australia are eating each other points, other teams won't mind it. Having said that Draw (4 points) is better than losing a test (zero points).
We have another great escape and another 4th inning (5th day) failure of Aussie bowlers. Every time they were supposed to win or were in winning position but now it looks like more of a curse which started in Headingley, even new beautiful skipper patty couldn't do anything.
Well done Abdullah-Baba-Rizwan..
With this draw, point table is looking more competitive. Pakistan and Australia are eating each other points, other teams won't mind it. Having said that Draw (4 points) is better than losing a test (zero points).
The table is looking more competitive but Australia is still ahead of each and every team. I actually did not expect Pakistan to do this well, they exceeded expectations of a lot of people.
I have to say somewhere along the line Australian bowlers I will feel that they should have won the match, they had the platform set for them and they just could not deliver.
Also, the decision-making might come into play for this draw because If Australia send Pakistan to bat again it could have won the match.
Yeah, in hindsight we can say that but they also dropped couple of sitters and pitch was excellent to bat on. Pitch didn't deteriorate much even on 5th day and you can't expect to win test match on such track if you're dropping regular catches so its completely their fault. May be they should have gone with the follow-on but at that time it looked right decision, if we take game situation into the account.
First 7 days of this tour were boring af but last 3 days were fun and some fine character from the both side, which is good.
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