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Quote from: Haunebu on February 08, 2021, 10:51:23 AM

Quote from: onrise on February 08, 2021, 10:23:07 AM

Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.

India might not only survive, but win this one if someone plays a Stokes style innings and my bet is on Kohli to recover his form and score a lot while stringing together a huge partnership with Rahane on the other end.

Kohli is great when it comes to chasing huge scores which is why India could actually win this one though this is a risky approach since draw seems like the more favorable option for them.

India would not attempt to go for a win as couple of quick wickets and suddenly the pressure would be a lot more than before. So instead they would just try to negotiate the overs as much as possible so that towards the end they can ensure they are able to draw the test match and that would be the biggest achievement itself since they were not in the game. Also, if Kohli try to pace has innings at quick rate as going for a win and if loses his wicket then a lot of question could arise as bating on last day with average required above 4 is not at all an easy task.

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Quote from: onrise on February 08, 2021, 10:23:07 AM

Did England decision to not allow the follow on prove incorrect because if they would asked India to bat and even if India had taken a lead of say 50 - 100 provided England wrapped up India quick again in second innings then England would have better chance of winning this test as they could even had made this score by playing T20 like match in the end if need be.

You need to consider the hot and humid weather they are playing, it is Chennai and a visiting team cannot keep on bowling and force a follow on without resting the bowlers. The pitch is behaving oddly with uneven bounce and it is possible for India to draw the match, it all depends on how they approach the match tomorrow morning, i do believe India will not go for the win.

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Quote from: onrise on February 08, 2021, 10:23:07 AM

Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.

India might not only survive, but win this one if someone plays a Stokes style innings and my bet is on Kohli to recover his form and score a lot while stringing together a huge partnership with Rahane on the other end.

Kohli is great when it comes to chasing huge scores which is why India could actually win this one though this is a risky approach since draw seems like the more favorable option for them.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

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Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs.

Joe Root just bowled two overs, the first over he just gave away a run but his next over the batsman attacked him and he is not even a regular bowler. Dom Bess is the trump card and leach is getting purchase from the wicket and India needs to play exceptionally well to draw the match and i am going with England to win the match as the pitch will not help for defensive batting.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.

If the top order can stay in the crease till the afternoon session then the middle order could do the rest as witnessed in the Australian series but it is a big hurdle and it is difficult to replicate the same magic twice.

Last day, home team hunting for big chase first session surely going to be very crucial for both because if England is going to take few wickets then surely they are going for some attacking tactics otherwise India is not bad at all for chasing big scores. They have very good history of chasing but now all about how is first session going tomorrow, As we check today in Pakistan vs South Africa first session few wickets and Pakistan is good command.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:30:30 AM

Summery : England dominated the game throughout all 4 days and they deserve to win here (Saying this as a test cricket fan)

England just need to pick 9 more wickets to win the match, India have shown resistance in Australia by defending the entire day and whether they can do in a pitch like Chennai which is favoring the spinners especially in the final day and the wicket of Rohit Sharma was a reminder how clueless the batsman can be in reading the line and length of the ball.

Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs. Leach will be relieved after getting the wicket of Rohit Sharma, but it is not going to be easy bowling against Kohli, Rahane and Pujara tomorrow. I guess Joe Root will bowl with Bess and Leach for most of the time, with short spells given to Archer and Anderson in between. Getting 9 wickets in 90 overs, that too in the final day of the test sounds very much probable. But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.

Did England decision to not allow the follow on prove incorrect because if they would asked India to bat and even if India had taken a lead of say 50 - 100 provided England wrapped up India quick again in second innings then England would have better chance of winning this test as they could even had made this score by playing T20 like match in the end if need be. Now, if India could survive tomo then for India it would be as good as wining the match considering the first three days of the test match being.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

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Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs.

Joe Root just bowled two overs, the first over he just gave away a run but his next over the batsman attacked him and he is not even a regular bowler. Dom Bess is the trump card and leach is getting purchase from the wicket and India needs to play exceptionally well to draw the match and i am going with England to win the match as the pitch will not help for defensive batting.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 06:45:47 AM

But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.

If the top order can stay in the crease till the afternoon session then the middle order could do the rest as witnessed in the Australian series but it is a big hurdle and it is difficult to replicate the same magic twice.

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Did anyone watch PAKvSA test match, It capture my eyes after outstanding comeback from Pakistan. Pakistan proves again teams of surprise. What a comeback? it's a miracle Pakistan take the series against South Africa 2-0 as SA lost their last 7 wickets for 36 runs.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on February 08, 2021, 07:21:02 AM

In the morning today, i thought Pakistan would lose the match and yet they will face the defeat in the match they should have won. But in the later part of the day, the South Africa batsmen lost wickets quickly and finally finally finally Pakistan won by 95 runs

Yup.. Pakistan came back to the game quite strongly. At one point, South Africa was at 3/241 and needed just another 128 runs to win. Obviously it is not easy to score 128 runs in the final day of the match, and that too against bowlers such as Hasan Ali and Shaheen Shah Afridi. But I thought that South Africa had the advantage as Markram and Bavuma were batting really well, and they had depth in their batting lineup (with de Kock, Wiaan Mulder, George Linde and Keshav Maharaj to follow). In the end, the South Africans could not handle the pressure and lost their last 7 wickets for just 33 runs.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 03:32:56 AM

Well done Pakistan.....

In the morning today, i thought Pakistan would lose the match and yet they will face the defeat in the match they should have won. But in the later part of the day, the South Africa batsmen lost wickets quickly and finally finally finally Pakistan won by 95 runs

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Quote from: Avirunes on February 08, 2021, 06:34:11 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

Shit i jinxed it haha

Rohit gone against a spin Undecided

rare sight

Yeah bit shocking and rare sight. Normally he goes out playing with a bit of stroke but have to say it was quite a delivery from Bess (was it?) .

The only reason i can think of is big names don't play much domestic games. There was a time when likes of Murli and Shane struggled in India on turning pitches but for quite some time Indian batsmen struggling against spin.

If we go by English experts opinion then this is their one of the worst spin bowling duo in this last decade but they are proving them wrong and taking wickets in India.

One of the reason i want to remove toss benefits in home conditions for every team. If this happens then every team going to dominate the game in away conditions. Although Indian team facing this challenge after a very long time, they win at home despite losing a toss.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

BTW i have a bet on India with juicy @10 odds..

Including Draw I guess? without draw I guess it is pretty much around 6-7x but still both are juicy and India are capable to pull win here.

What a turnaround from India.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 06:18:01 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

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BTW i have a bet on India with juicy @10 odds..

Wow.. odds of 10+

Nah not any miscalculation, I put a bet when India were struggling at 230ish/6 when Pant got out.

I feel that Root should have shown some carrot to Indians. 4 runs per over is big task to ask in any condition and almost impossible in India when pitch is deteriorating.

Win or lose.. i don't want to see draw in any scenario. Except when India is 8 or 9 down.

Summery : England dominated the game throughout all 4 days and they deserve to win here (Saying this as a test cricket fan)

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on February 08, 2021, 06:38:53 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:30:30 AM

Summery : England dominated the game throughout all 4 days and they deserve to win here (Saying this as a test cricket fan)

England just need to pick 9 more wickets to win the match, India have shown resistance in Australia by defending the entire day and whether they can do in a pitch like Chennai which is favoring the spinners especially in the final day and the wicket of Rohit Sharma was a reminder how clueless the batsman can be in reading the line and length of the ball.

Not going to be easy for England. Among their spinners, only Dom Bess picked up wickets in the first innings. Both Jack Lech and Joe Root went for plenty of Runs. Leach will be relieved after getting the wicket of Rohit Sharma, but it is not going to be easy bowling against Kohli, Rahane and Pujara tomorrow. I guess Joe Root will bowl with Bess and Leach for most of the time, with short spells given to Archer and Anderson in between. Getting 9 wickets in 90 overs, that too in the final day of the test sounds very much probable. But the only difference here is that the Indian batsmen are in very good form, and their morale is quite high after the series in Australia.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:30:30 AM

Summery : England dominated the game throughout all 4 days and they deserve to win here (Saying this as a test cricket fan)

England just need to pick 9 more wickets to win the match, India have shown resistance in Australia by defending the entire day and whether they can do in a pitch like Chennai which is favoring the spinners especially in the final day and the wicket of Rohit Sharma was a reminder how clueless the batsman can be in reading the line and length of the ball.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

Shit i jinxed it haha

Rohit gone against a spin Undecided

rare sight

Yeah bit shocking and rare sight. Normally he goes out playing with a bit of stroke but have to say it was quite a delivery from Bess (was it?) .

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

BTW i have a bet on India with juicy @10 odds..

Including Draw I guess? without draw I guess it is pretty much around 6-7x but still both are juicy and India are capable to pull win here.

What a turnaround from India.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 06:18:01 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

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BTW i have a bet on India with juicy @10 odds..

Wow.. odds of 10+

That is very attractive.. IMO, the odds should have been in 4-5 range. India has successfully chased big totals recently and many of their batsmen are in form. On top of that, even their lower order batsmen (such as Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin) are getting involved in 100 plus partnerships nowadays. If any of the gambling sites provided such favorable odds, then it is a miscalculation from their part.

Rohit's wicket was a big blow. But as long as India doesn't lose another wicket today (I guess only 3-4 overs remain), they should be fine. They still have Gill, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Pant and the lower order batsmen. If they bat carefully, then there is a big chance of upset. Even Joe Root is aware of it, and that was the reason why he refused to declare the English second innings when Dom Bess got out.

Nah not any miscalculation, I put a bet when India were struggling at 230ish/6 when Pant got out.

I feel that Root should have shown some carrot to Indians. 4 runs per over is big task to ask in any condition and almost impossible in India when pitch is deteriorating.

Win or lose.. i don't want to see draw in any scenario. Except when India is 8 or 9 down.

Summery : England dominated the game throughout all 4 days and they deserve to win here (Saying this as a test cricket fan)

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 06:02:49 AM

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BTW i have a bet on India with juicy @10 odds..

Wow.. odds of 10+

That is very attractive.. IMO, the odds should have been in 4-5 range. India has successfully chased big totals recently and many of their batsmen are in form. On top of that, even their lower order batsmen (such as Washington Sundar and Ravichandran Ashwin) are getting involved in 100 plus partnerships nowadays. If any of the gambling sites provided such favorable odds, then it is a miscalculation from their part.

Rohit's wicket was a big blow. But as long as India doesn't lose another wicket today (I guess only 3-4 overs remain), they should be fine. They still have Gill, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Pant and the lower order batsmen. If they bat carefully, then there is a big chance of upset. Even Joe Root is aware of it, and that was the reason why he refused to declare the English second innings when Dom Bess got out.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 04:51:05 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 03:32:56 AM

~snip~

Hopefully after this match, the BCCI may consider replacing Kohli with Rahane as the test captain.

Ideally it should after the series and only if India lose the series. Otherwise don't keep your hope high.

Is anyone expecting India to win? 420 is big target...

I think if Gill-Rohit bat for 50-60 overs then yup.

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Shit i jinxed it haha

Rohit gone against a spin Undecided

rare sight

BTW i have a bet on India with juicy @10 odds..

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Quote from: GbitG on February 08, 2021, 05:01:53 AM

You are right in this case as Kohli tactics not working right now because he is not doing things as its need to be Shahbaz is really poor in current match Kuldeep was surely deserve a chance here now things completely out of Indian control because lead is crossing 400+.
About Kohli captaincy I am feeling BCCE will not take any quick decision specially in middle of a crucial series but surely they will think about this in near future.

Kohli has become too much egoistic, and as a result of that he is unable to make logical decisions. England is currently leading by 417 runs. It is a bit short for their liking, as they would have been comfortable with a total of 440-450. Considering the depth in the Indian batting lineup, anything below that may be extremely risky for England. But now they have to adjust with a score that is slightly below their aim, because Dom Bess and Jos Buttler got out at short intervals. However, England would be hoping for more blunders form Kohli, as he is sticking with Shahbaz Nadeem as if his life depends on him. In my opinion, if he gives a chance to either Bumrah or Ishant, while keeping Ashwin at the other end, they may be able to mop up the tail pretty quickly.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 08, 2021, 04:51:05 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 03:32:56 AM

Nadeem is not playing next game for sure. If he wants to play then he need to pick last 5 wickets by himself in his next 2 overs Grin

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So far 26 No ball from India!

Well done Pakistan.....

Nadeem was picked over Kuldeep Yadav, as the captain/damaadji combination thought that playing three off-spinners would be a good idea. Kohli's tactics once again not working in this match. He should have given more overs to Ishant and Bumrah, while keeping Ashwin solidly at the other end. But in order to justify his selection, he was again and again giving spells to Shahbaz. The other three picked up 5 wickets for 50 runs, while Shahbaz have figures of 47/1. Hopefully after this match, the BCCI may consider replacing Kohli with Rahane as the test captain.

You are right in this case as Kohli tactics not working right now because he is not doing things as its need to be Shahbaz is really poor in current match Kuldeep was surely deserve a chance here now things completely out of Indian control because lead is crossing 400+.
About Kohli captaincy I am feeling BCCE will not take any quick decision specially in middle of a crucial series but surely they will think about this in near future.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 08, 2021, 03:32:56 AM

Nadeem is not playing next game for sure. If he wants to play then he need to pick last 5 wickets by himself in his next 2 overs Grin

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So far 26 No ball from India!

Well done Pakistan.....

Nadeem was picked over Kuldeep Yadav, as the captain/damaadji combination thought that playing three off-spinners would be a good idea. Kohli's tactics once again not working in this match. He should have given more overs to Ishant and Bumrah, while keeping Ashwin solidly at the other end. But in order to justify his selection, he was again and again giving spells to Shahbaz. The other three picked up 5 wickets for 50 runs, while Shahbaz have figures of 47/1. Hopefully after this match, the BCCI may consider replacing Kohli with Rahane as the test captain.

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England is leading with 376 runs and they are not planning to declare the innings, Jos Buttler is in the crease and he might look to increase the run rate and they might try to add 50 odd runs and reach a safe position and they need more time to put pressure back on the Indian players, the pitch is not looking good as there is uneven bounce and the fast bowlers are getting reverse swing, it will be a real test for Indian batsman if they want to save this match.

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