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Quote from: JSRAW on September 27, 2020, 09:00:56 AM

But they don't find anything wrong in hosting Indian team for full 3 months? I don't mind if they postpone ODI but postponing test against the Afghans is not good move.

May be they are in need of the revenue they are able to generate if India is to tour them and on the other hand Afghanistan will not generate that much revenue, i am sure all the cricket boards are struggling to make money, i read an article regarding ECB how they are reducing the work force because of financial crisis and that might be the situation with the rest of the cricket boards and they need to find a solution to generate revenue.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 27, 2020, 12:00:39 PM

It has to do with the length of the tour as well. The Indian tour lasts a few months and therefore the extra spending is justified. On the other hand, it is not financially viable for Cricket Australia to spend so much on logistics just for one test and a few T20 matches. And as far as I know, they are not cancelling the series. They are just planning to postpone the matches by a few months.

@JSRAW I agree with others that revenue played a big part in CA decision to postpone this series, and secondly I feel that they wanted to keep their player’s fresh because living in bio bubble is very difficult. Also @bryant.coleman I’m not sure how will CA fit this series in their schedule later on next year, because their schedule will already be packed, hence I don’t think that this series will be taking place next year.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 27, 2020, 09:00:56 AM

But they don't find anything wrong in hosting Indian team for full 3 months? I don't mind if they postpone ODI but postponing test against the Afghans is not good move.

It has to do with the length of the tour as well. The Indian tour lasts a few months and therefore the extra spending is justified. On the other hand, it is not financially viable for Cricket Australia to spend so much on logistics just for one test and a few T20 matches. And as far as I know, they are not cancelling the series. They are just planning to postpone the matches by a few months.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 27, 2020, 09:00:56 AM

But they don't find anything wrong in hosting Indian team for full 3 months? I don't mind if they postpone ODI but postponing test against the Afghans is not good move.

May be they are in need of the revenue they are able to generate if India is to tour them and on the other hand Afghanistan will not generate that much revenue, i am sure all the cricket boards are struggling to make money, i read an article regarding ECB how they are reducing the work force because of financial crisis and that might be the situation with the rest of the cricket boards and they need to find a solution to generate revenue.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 27, 2020, 08:47:06 AM

The latest news regarding test format is the postponement of the match between Australia and Afghanistan, which was originally scheduled for November 2020 in Perth. It would have been Afghanistan's first test match in Australia, but unfortunately CA decided to postpone it due to the COVID 19 related scheduling issues. As of now, it is not known when this match will be played.

But they don't find anything wrong in hosting Indian team for full 3 months? I don't mind if they postpone ODI but postponing test against the Afghans is not good move.

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The latest news regarding test format is the postponement of the match between Australia and Afghanistan, which was originally scheduled for November 2020 in Perth. It would have been Afghanistan's first test match in Australia, but unfortunately CA decided to postpone it due to the COVID 19 related scheduling issues. As of now, it is not known when this match will be played.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 14, 2020, 09:29:48 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 14, 2020, 06:33:19 PM

Bangladesh not trying to reject the idea of quarantine, all they are asking to train separately during 14 days quarantine period. The main reason is after 14 days of quarantine, they are left with only 4 days for training which is not enough, then one 3 days practice match before series kickstart.

Since SLCB will be hosting them, the BCB needs to obey their directives. There is no point in escalating this any further. The Bangladesh squad can reach two weeks earlier and by doing this they will get enough time to train even after the mandatory quarantine. I would rather side with SLCB in this case. They have the right to make sure that the visitors doesn't bring Coronavirus with them. Bangladesh is one of the worst affected countries as far as the pandemic is concerned, while Sri Lanka has remained relatively free from it.

Yes I agree with you. If the Bangladesh team arrives in Sri Lanka two weeks ago, it will have enough time for practice. No country will want to take extra risk during this pandemic. On top of that, Bangladesh is above all in terms of attack. I don't understand why the BCB president is saying that players cannot stay in quarantine for more than 7 days. I don't understand what's wrong with being in quarantine for more than seven days.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 14, 2020, 06:33:19 PM

Bangladesh not trying to reject the idea of quarantine, all they are asking to train separately during 14 days quarantine period. The main reason is after 14 days of quarantine, they are left with only 4 days for training which is not enough, then one 3 days practice match before series kickstart.

Since SLCB will be hosting them, the BCB needs to obey their directives. There is no point in escalating this any further. The Bangladesh squad can reach two weeks earlier and by doing this they will get enough time to train even after the mandatory quarantine. I would rather side with SLCB in this case. They have the right to make sure that the visitors doesn't bring Coronavirus with them. Bangladesh is one of the worst affected countries as far as the pandemic is concerned, while Sri Lanka has remained relatively free from it.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 14, 2020, 12:10:13 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 14, 2020, 11:05:53 AM

Heated discussion in between Bangladesh and Srilankan's cricket board. Both are schedule to play 3 test match series in Oct-Nov. According to the Bangladeshi, Srilankan seems bit paranoid and unreasonable.
-They are not allowing Bangladeshi to train during quarantine period.
-Not allowing them to play practice match.
-Not providing net bowlers

BCB say 'no' to 14-day quarantine in Sri Lanka

It is sad to see these cricket boards quarreling over trivial matters. With COVID 19 pandemic at its peak in the South Asian region, I don't think that the Bangladesh team can be exempted from the quarantine requirement. It is just two weeks. Bangladeshis can arrive in Sri Lanka two weeks prior to their planned date. Who is preventing them from doing this? Also, they can bring net bowlers from Bangladesh.

This is why I have been saying that the ICC need to finalize on the successor for Shashank Manohar as soon as possible. They need someone to negotiate with the boards, if there is some issue. They are needlessly delaying the elections.

Bangladesh not trying to reject the idea of quarantine, all they are asking to train separately during 14 days quarantine period. The main reason is after 14 days of quarantine, they are left with only 4 days for training which is not enough, then one 3 days practice match before series kickstart.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 12, 2020, 02:46:48 PM

Yeah ICC and CSA don't want this and will try to avoid such scenario, as of now CSA first option is to challenge The South African Sports Confederation and Olympic Committee (SASCOC) legally and see what happens, if things goes south then CSA is $%ked for sure

No idea about the political climate in the region and it sounds like things are getting worse in terms of quality of players produced and the cricket board is in a power struggle at the moment which it is not a good sign for the future of the sport, just like the Zimbabwe issue if things gets worse then we might see a partial ban for them and none of the teams will tour them, since there are T20 leagues around the world some of the players would not mind migrating if the political situation gets worse.

To be frank i was not keen on these power struggles and the inside stuff behind the scene, where ever there is money people will try to grab their position is what is see from these situations.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 14, 2020, 01:02:55 PM

Yeah CSA is corrupted . For this reason SASCOC
(south african sports confederation and olympic committee) has taken over the responsibility of South Africa cricket . which is regulated by the South African government . This is why the ICC want to ban South Africa. That's why i think the problem should be solved through discussion .

The ICC doesn't allow governments to control cricket boards. I don't know the reason behind this, but it is quite strange. I don't think that any of the other sports bodies (FIFA, FIBA.etc) have such conditions. And it is really hard to keep politics away from cricket. Take the case of BCCI. Many of the office-bearers, including Jay Shah and Arun Dhumal are political appointees (although they claim that they are not a part of any political party).

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 14, 2020, 12:10:13 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 14, 2020, 11:05:53 AM

Heated discussion in between Bangladesh and Srilankan's cricket board. Both are schedule to play 3 test match series in Oct-Nov. According to the Bangladeshi, Srilankan seems bit paranoid and unreasonable.
-They are not allowing Bangladeshi to train during quarantine period.
-Not allowing them to play practice match.
-Not providing net bowlers
BCB say 'no' to 14-day quarantine in Sri Lanka

It is sad to see these cricket boards quarreling over trivial matters. With COVID 19 pandemic at its peak in the South Asian region, I don't think that the Bangladesh team can be exempted from the quarantine requirement. It is just two weeks. Bangladeshis can arrive in Sri Lanka two weeks prior to their planned date. Who is preventing them from doing this? Also, they can bring net bowlers from Bangladesh.
This is why I have been saying that the ICC need to finalize on the successor for Shashank Manohar as soon as possible. They need someone to negotiate with the boards, if there is some issue. They are needlessly delaying the elections.

I applaud BCC's decision. Srilankan Cricket board is talking illegal. I think they won't want Bangladesh vs Sri lanka series to be held. It would be right decision for Bangladesh not to visit Sri lanka .

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I agree with you . There are only 12 countries play test cricket . The number of countries that play cricket is already low . so we don't want any team to be banned and the number of Test playing nations to be further reduce . So we want the ICC to solve the problem through negotiations with South Africa . South Africa is much popular team . So it is very sorrowful news that , South Africa may banned . We want the problem to be resolved through negotiation.

I don't agree. If they break the rules, then they should be banned. Already the South African selection policy is an abomination. Nowhere else in the world, players are selected based on their skin color, rather than on merit. Because of this selection policy, more than 50 players were forced to move abroad. On top of that, there is widespread corruption within the CSA. They receive huge amounts of revenue from TV deals and from the ICC. But still the players remain underpaid.

Yeah CSA is corrupted. For this reason, SASCOC
(South African Sports Confederation and Olympic Committee) has taken over the responsibility of South Africa cricket. which is regulated by the South African government. This is why the ICC want to ban South Africa. That's why I think the problem should be solved through discussion.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 14, 2020, 11:05:53 AM

Heated discussion in between Bangladesh and Srilankan's cricket board. Both are schedule to play 3 test match series in Oct-Nov. According to the Bangladeshi, Srilankan seems bit paranoid and unreasonable.
-They are not allowing Bangladeshi to train during quarantine period.
-Not allowing them to play practice match.
-Not providing net bowlers

BCB say 'no' to 14-day quarantine in Sri Lanka

It is sad to see these cricket boards quarreling over trivial matters. With COVID 19 pandemic at its peak in the South Asian region, I don't think that the Bangladesh team can be exempted from the quarantine requirement. It is just two weeks. Bangladeshis can arrive in Sri Lanka two weeks prior to their planned date. Who is preventing them from doing this? Also, they can bring net bowlers from Bangladesh.

This is why I have been saying that the ICC need to finalize on the successor for Shashank Manohar as soon as possible. They need someone to negotiate with the boards, if there is some issue. They are needlessly delaying the elections.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 14, 2020, 11:05:53 AM

Heated discussion in between Bangladesh and Srilankan's cricket board. Both are schedule to play 3 test match series in Oct-Nov. According to the Bangladeshi, Srilankan seems bit paranoid and unreasonable.
-They are not allowing Bangladeshi to train during quarantine period.
-Not allowing them to play practice match.
-Not providing net bowlers

BCB say 'no' to 14-day quarantine in Sri Lanka

@JSRAW after reading the article that you have shared I feel that the Srilanka Cricket Board is being unfair to BCB, and they should either relax the 14 day quarantine rule, or allow them to practice with their extra player’s that BCB intend to send along with their main squad. Furthermore it’s clear that if Srilanka’s Cricket board fails to pacify BCB then this series will be called off, and it’ll be a loss for both the nations as they could definitely use the revenue which this series will generate.

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Heated discussion in between Bangladesh and Srilankan's cricket board. Both are schedule to play 3 test match series in Oct-Nov. According to the Bangladeshi, Srilankan seems bit paranoid and unreasonable.
-They are not allowing Bangladeshi to train during quarantine period.
-Not allowing them to play practice match.
-Not providing net bowlers

BCB say 'no' to 14-day quarantine in Sri Lanka

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 13, 2020, 12:48:05 PM

I agree with you . There are only 12 countries play test cricket . The number of countries that play cricket is already low . so we don't want any team to be banned and the number of Test playing nations to be further reduce . So we want the ICC to solve the problem through negotiations with South Africa . South Africa is much popular team . So it is very sorrowful news that , South Africa may banned . We want the problem to be resolved through negotiation.

I don't agree. If they break the rules, then they should be banned. Already the South African selection policy is an abomination. Nowhere else in the world, players are selected based on their skin color, rather than on merit. Because of this selection policy, more than 50 players were forced to move abroad. On top of that, there is widespread corruption within the CSA. They receive huge amounts of revenue from TV deals and from the ICC. But still the players remain underpaid.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 13, 2020, 07:19:05 AM

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I am sure ICC will not do this blunder. If they do, this will not be a popular decision. We already have few cricket playing nations and if they started banning them, the number will further decline. I hope South Africa wont face similar restrictions like Zimbabwe.

We only have 12 test playing nations (and out of them only around half are competitive against Big 3 nations) and no one want this number to go down any further. But at the same time, cricket boards can't be allowed to break established rules. If we allow that, then it will set up a wrong precedent. Also, the ICC can't take a particular approach against the Zimbabwe board and another one against CSA. Law is equal for everyone.

I agree with you. There are only 12 countries play test cricket. The number of countries that play cricket is already low. we don't want any team to be banned and the number of Test playing nations to be further reduce. So, we want the ICC to solve the problem through negotiations with South Africa. On the other hand, South Africa is much popular team, it is very sorrowful news that, South Africa may be banned. We want the problem to be resolved through negotiation.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on September 12, 2020, 05:39:34 PM

I am sure ICC will not do this blunder. If they do, this will not be a popular decision. We already have few cricket playing nations and if they started banning them, the number will further decline. I hope South Africa wont face similar restrictions like Zimbabwe.

We only have 12 test playing nations (and out of them only around half are competitive against Big 3 nations) and no one want this number to go down any further. But at the same time, cricket boards can't be allowed to break established rules. If we allow that, then it will set up a wrong precedent. Also, the ICC can't take a particular approach against the Zimbabwe board and another one against CSA. Law is equal for everyone.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 11, 2020, 05:20:06 PM

Alarming news for South Africa Cricket. Their Olympic body taking over CSA under its control and firing existing cricket board, technically government taking over. Implication? According to ICC constitution Cricket board should work as autonomously body and no government interference is allowed, if not then it could lead to ban from the International Cricket. More or less similar thing happened with the Zimbabwe cricket too.

South African Olympic body removes CSA board; takes control of cricket

Zimbabwe received a raw deal from the ICC, as they got suspended and were barred from receiving funds. Do the ICC have courage to do the same with South Africa? Especially at a time when the chairman election is due? These suspensions work only against smaller boards who have small number of supporters and not against larger boards such as South Africa.

I am sure ICC will not do this blunder. If they do, this will not be a popular decision. We already have few cricket playing nations and if they started banning them, the number will further decline. I hope South Africa wont face similar restrictions like Zimbabwe.

You are right this could be blunder but CSA is also not doing any thing good for controling corruptiona and many other issues which are hurting them very badly too much talk about quota system and many other serious troubles around there which need some stick intention but nothing hapepning and many players going away just because of these issues.

Corruption is everywhere but when corruption converts into destruction stringent action has to be taken. Same thing happened with BCCI few years back and now everything is running smoothly.

What happened with BCCI few years back ? They never had a case where they could face a ban from ICC .
The CSA board needs to be strong and to be able to control the players and the corruption if they want to survive in the international cricket.

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Quote from: JSRAW on September 11, 2020, 05:20:06 PM

Alarming news for South Africa Cricket. Their Olympic body taking over CSA under its control and firing existing cricket board, technically government taking over. Implication? According to ICC constitution Cricket board should work as autonomously body and no government interference is allowed, if not then it could lead to ban from the International Cricket. More or less similar thing happened with the Zimbabwe cricket too.

South African Olympic body removes CSA board; takes control of cricket

Zimbabwe received a raw deal from the ICC, as they got suspended and were barred from receiving funds. Do the ICC have courage to do the same with South Africa? Especially at a time when the chairman election is due? These suspensions work only against smaller boards who have small number of supporters and not against larger boards such as South Africa.

I am sure ICC will not do this blunder. If they do, this will not be a popular decision. We already have few cricket playing nations and if they started banning them, the number will further decline. I hope South Africa wont face similar restrictions like Zimbabwe.

You are right this could be blunder but CSA is also not doing any thing good for controling corruptiona and many other issues which are hurting them very badly too much talk about quota system and many other serious troubles around there which need some stick intention but nothing hapepning and many players going away just because of these issues.

Corruption is everywhere but when corruption converts into destruction stringent action has to be taken. Same thing happened with BCCI few years back and now everything is running smoothly.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on September 12, 2020, 05:39:34 PM

Quote from: RamBahadur.Gurung on September 12, 2020, 08:05:31 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on September 11, 2020, 05:20:06 PM

Alarming news for South Africa Cricket. Their Olympic body taking over CSA under its control and firing existing cricket board, technically government taking over. Implication? According to ICC constitution Cricket board should work as autonomously body and no government interference is allowed, if not then it could lead to ban from the International Cricket. More or less similar thing happened with the Zimbabwe cricket too.

South African Olympic body removes CSA board; takes control of cricket

Zimbabwe received a raw deal from the ICC, as they got suspended and were barred from receiving funds. Do the ICC have courage to do the same with South Africa? Especially at a time when the chairman election is due? These suspensions work only against smaller boards who have small number of supporters and not against larger boards such as South Africa.

I am sure ICC will not do this blunder. If they do, this will not be a popular decision. We already have few cricket playing nations and if they started banning them, the number will further decline. I hope South Africa wont face similar restrictions like Zimbabwe.

You are right this could be blunder but CSA is also not doing any thing good for controling corruptiona and many other issues which are hurting them very badly too much talk about quota system and many other serious troubles around there which need some stick intention but nothing hapepning and many players going away just because of these issues.

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