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Quote from: Haunebu on August 25, 2020, 02:48:45 AM

Wrong. The Indian team is not over-reliant on Kohli these days and the same applies to Pakistan and Azam. Ben Stokes is an all-rounder in comparison.

I am not going to completely agree. May be in Indian conditions that is not the case, but in grounds that favor seam/swing bowling, the Indian batting lineup is very heavily dependent on Virat Kohli. Others are not consistent. Batsmen such as Rohit and Rahul have performed every now and then, but they fail to do that on a consistent basis.

BTW, it is very frustrating with the England vs Pakistan test. Today also there is hardly any chance of play.

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Quote from: teosanru on August 25, 2020, 02:47:59 AM

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This is something which Indians and Pakistani board Don't do their teams have too much reliance on Virat Kohli and Babar Aazam.

To some extent its true if we considering last India's tour of England, other than that it might be bit exaggerated to say that Indian team rely only on Kohli. for example In South Africa Ajinkya Rahane stepped up, In Australia Pujara was the man of the series. Home season are completely different ball game, each and every Indian batsman is match winner.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 24, 2020, 06:56:16 PM

If there is no weather interruption like we saw today there is a possibility that Pakistan could reach those scores as you never know how the Pakistan players usually play, England is dropping catches as usual and there is a chance considering the insane odds these sportsbook are providing.

Pakistan winning? No freaking way. The reason why the odds are so high is because it is pretty much impossible for them to win at this point. England winning or a draw are the only realistic outcomes at this point no matter how many catches England drop.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 25, 2020, 02:42:13 AM

The way they dominated this test match, it would be shame if they have to share points with the Pakistan only because of rain. In case Pakistan fight out their way to the end then they deserve those half points.

8 wickets are all that England need to knock down to win and I am confident they will. Broad and Anderson are the key bowlers once again.

Quote from: teosanru on August 25, 2020, 02:47:59 AM

This is something which Indians and Pakistani board Don't do their teams have too much reliance on Virat Kohli and Babar Aazam.

Wrong. The Indian team is not over-reliant on Kohli these days and the same applies to Pakistan and Azam. Ben Stokes is an all-rounder in comparison.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 25, 2020, 02:42:13 AM

Only good thing coming out from this game for Pakistani team is that skipper Azhar Ali managed to save his face by his knock, he was facing lot of criticism due to his captaincy and his own batting form.

Not sure where this game heading, as Pakistani batting is too volatile. One day they comes out as a champions and next day same team look like a local club. Having said that i am expecting England to win the game if weather allow them to bawl at least 60 overs. The way they dominated this test match, it would be shame if they have to share points with the Pakistan only because of rain. In case Pakistan fight out their way to the end then they deserve those half points.

I think this volatility is because of inexperienced players in the side. These are talented players who have some spirit of playing but don't have the expertise of playing against every team and at every ground. Pakistan team have revamped their team quite too much in last few years that's the reason. It's an all new team so this was bound to happen. England on the other side are robust. Even without stokes they are playing this so well and I think this was the strategy of the board of England to avoid making the team over reliant on Ben stokes alone. This is something which Indians and Pakistani board Don't do their teams have too much reliance on Virat Kohli and Babar Aazam.

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Only good thing coming out from this game for Pakistani team is that skipper Azhar Ali managed to save his face by his knock, he was facing lot of criticism due to his captaincy and his own batting form.

Not sure where this game heading, as Pakistani batting is too volatile. One day they comes out as a champions and next day same team look like a local club. Having said that i am expecting England to win the game if weather allow them to bawl at least 60 overs. The way they dominated this test match, it would be shame if they have to share points with the Pakistan only because of rain. In case Pakistan fight out their way to the end then they deserve those half points.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 24, 2020, 03:10:18 PM

Ali saved Pakistan thanks to his classy innings. Pressure is on Pakistan because the English bowlers will be coming in hard on the final day. Also, the odds offered for an English win are pretty good right now.

Have you seen the odds for a Pakistan win, it is above 850 for a Pakistan win which is an insane amount to get as odds, Pakistan is just trailing by 210 runs and they have 8 wickets in hand. If there is no weather interruption like we saw today there is a possibility that Pakistan could reach those scores as you never know how the Pakistan players usually play, England is dropping catches as usual and there is a chance considering the insane odds these sportsbook are providing.

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Quote from: Haunebu on August 24, 2020, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 24, 2020, 11:58:33 AM

I think this match will be draw, when I write this comment. Pakistan’s current score is 78/1, At this moment Pakistan’s main target is to draw this match, because they don't have any chance to win this match. Hope they will do their best to draw the match, and I think the weather will help them Tongue

, it is likely to rain again tomorrow.

England probably hate the rainy weather conditions even more now. They could have accumulated way more points in the WTC if it wasn't the rain interruptions resulting in draws. This one could in a draw too.

Ali saved Pakistan thanks to his classy innings. Pressure is on Pakistan because the English bowlers will be coming in hard on the final day. Also, the odds offered for an English win are pretty good right now.

As we have seen in the past, Pakistan find it hard to try and play out a draw as they crack under the pressure. I just wonder if we'll see the same again, England will be looking to take a couple of quick wickets and put Pakistan under pressure and if they are able to do so then I think they will win the match. Yes I think the odds are good for England to win the match as long as the rain stays away.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 24, 2020, 11:58:33 AM

I think this match will be draw, when I write this comment. Pakistan’s current score is 78/1, At this moment Pakistan’s main target is to draw this match, because they don't have any chance to win this match. Hope they will do their best to draw the match, and I think the weather will help them Tongue

, it is likely to rain again tomorrow.

England probably hate the rainy weather conditions even more now. They could have accumulated way more points in the WTC if it wasn't the rain interruptions resulting in draws. This one could in a draw too.

Ali saved Pakistan thanks to his classy innings. Pressure is on Pakistan because the English bowlers will be coming in hard on the final day. Also, the odds offered for an English win are pretty good right now.

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Quote from: suvo05 on August 24, 2020, 01:47:00 PM

Quote from: Indymoney on August 24, 2020, 12:28:50 PM

Yes now Pakistan is 94/2 and we have very poor light spinners bowling from both sides any time empires can call off as its going dark and more dark tomorrow forecast is also not good enough but England still on chance as if they have two sessions then they can bowled out Pakistan lets see what happen.

Pakistan have done well enough today, tomorrow's weather forecast suggests there will be rain the morning seasons( chances of whole day though), England will hardly get 40 over to take the remaining 8 wickets of Pakistan.

Now this match is all depend on weather not in hands of Pakistan or England because tomorrow forecast is not good for England and their fielding is also not good so hopefully now Pakistan will survive and take 13 more World Test Championship points even no position is going to change.

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Quote from: Indymoney on August 24, 2020, 12:28:50 PM

Yes now Pakistan is 94/2 and we have very poor light spinners bowling from both sides any time empires can call off as its going dark and more dark tomorrow forecast is also not good enough but England still on chance as if they have two sessions then they can bowled out Pakistan lets see what happen.

Pakistan have done well enough today, tomorrow's weather forecast suggests there will be rain the morning seasons( chances of whole day though), England will hardly get 40 over to take the remaining 8 wickets of Pakistan.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 24, 2020, 11:58:33 AM

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England have given Pakistan follow on and Pakistan started well their second innings. They are 41/0 and now trailing by 269 runs. Rain has interrupted the match is delayed due to wet outfield. Players are taking their lunch and around 52 overs can be bowled in the day. So England will try to take 3-4 wickets in remaining day so that tomorrow they can bowl them out in half day even if rain comes in for some time.

I think this match will be draw, when I write this comment. Pakistan’s current score is 78/1, At this moment Pakistan’s main target is to draw this match, because they don't have any chance to win this match. Hope they will do their best to draw the match, and I think the weather will help them Tongue

, it is likely to rain again tomorrow.

Yes now Pakistan is 94/2 and we have very poor light spinners bowling from both sides any time empires can call off as its going dark and more dark tomorrow forecast is also not good enough but England still on chance as if they have two sessions then they can bowled out Pakistan lets see what happen.

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England have given Pakistan follow on and Pakistan started well their second innings. They are 41/0 and now trailing by 269 runs. Rain has interrupted the match is delayed due to wet outfield. Players are taking their lunch and around 52 overs can be bowled in the day. So England will try to take 3-4 wickets in remaining day so that tomorrow they can bowl them out in half day even if rain comes in for some time.

I think this match will be draw, when I write this comment. Pakistan’s current score is 78/1, At this moment Pakistan’s main target is to draw this match, because they don't have any chance to win this match. Hope they will do their best to draw the match, and I think the weather will help them Tongue

, it is likely to rain again tomorrow.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 23, 2020, 06:32:09 PM

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England done some mistake as they touch 425 they have to declare and give Pakistan chance surely this is more worthy if they want to win match and serious by big margin but they take some good time so now its all on weather most chances in last two days we have only 1 session not enough time for completing all inning.

England is in a good position as Pakistan still trail by 310 runs and by the way they are performing it is impossible to reach anywhere near that total unless and until the Pakistan batsman could come up with an incredible performance like their captain did in the first innings and it is hard to predict someone would rise up to that level in the second innings.

Forget about Pakistan successfully managing to overturn the England lead. I will be surprised if they could make a total in excess of 200 during the second innings. Even during the first innings, they were struggling at 5/75. Then Azhar Ali and Mohammad Rizwan built a partnership which enabled them to reach a decent total. I don't expect any such miracles during the second innings.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on August 23, 2020, 04:00:58 PM

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England done some mistake as they touch 425 they have to declare and give Pakistan chance surely this is more worthy if they want to win match and serious by big margin but they take some good time so now its all on weather most chances in last two days we have only 1 session not enough time for completing all inning.

England is in a good position as Pakistan still trail by 310 runs and by the way they are performing it is impossible to reach anywhere near that total unless and until the Pakistan batsman could come up with an incredible performance like their captain did in the first innings and it is hard to predict someone would rise up to that level in the second innings.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 23, 2020, 07:19:48 AM

England should show the big heart similar to Pakistan, where they lost the winning game (1st test). Now its time to return the favor and excellent opportunity to show how good host they are. At least let'em draw..... Undecided

The England bowlers will be tired and the fielders might help the Pakistan batsman by dropping catches and if there is rain at regular intervals then there would be a chance for Pakistan to draw the match yet loose the series. Did you bet for a draw for you to have this much sympathy Cheesy

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Ali should resume his batting and open the innings and continue his performance.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 23, 2020, 03:55:07 PM

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Only rain can save Pakistan from defeat. If rain do not interrupt then pakistan is probly going to losse by an innings.

England has enforced the follow on and there is plenty of time for England to win the match even if many sessions are interrupted by rain. The odds are attractive to place a bet but i have no idea about the weather forecast but still the odds are great for England to win the match and the sports book are favoring a draw which i cannot foresee unless an entire day will be lost due to rain.

England done some mistake as they touch 425 they have to declare and give Pakistan chance surely this is more worthy if they want to win match and serious by big margin but they take some good time so now its all on weather most chances in last two days we have only 1 session not enough time for completing all inning.

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Quote from: suvo05 on August 23, 2020, 02:26:41 PM

Only rain can save Pakistan from defeat. If rain do not interrupt then pakistan is probly going to losse by an innings.

England has enforced the follow on and there is plenty of time for England to win the match even if many sessions are interrupted by rain. The odds are attractive to place a bet but i have no idea about the weather forecast but still the odds are great for England to win the match and the sports book are favoring a draw which i cannot foresee unless an entire day will be lost due to rain.

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Quote from: suvo05 on August 23, 2020, 02:26:41 PM

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Quote from: MFahad on August 23, 2020, 12:57:48 PM

Finally Pakistan are all out on 273 and England have enforced the follow on as expected.

There will be 25 mins more play today and for the England bowlers to get many wickets as they did yesterday.

No more game possible because of bad lights

Sign of relief for the whole Pakistan team and and they will be hoping for heavy rain tomorrow. Also James Anderson need only two wickets to complete his 600 wickets.

Only rain can save Pakistan from defeat. If rain do not interrupt then pakistan is probly going to losse by an innings.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on August 23, 2020, 01:05:17 PM

Quote from: MFahad on August 23, 2020, 12:57:48 PM

Finally Pakistan are all out on 273 and England have enforced the follow on as expected.

There will be 25 mins more play today and for the England bowlers to get many wickets as they did yesterday.

No more game possible because of bad lights

Sign of relief for the whole Pakistan team and and they will be hoping for heavy rain tomorrow. Also James Anderson need only two wickets to complete his 600 wickets.

Only rain can save Pakistan from defeat. If rain do not interrupt then pakistan is probly going to losse by an innings.

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Quote from: MFahad on August 23, 2020, 12:57:48 PM

Finally Pakistan are all out on 273 and England have enforced the follow on as expected.

There will be 25 mins more play today and for the England bowlers to get many wickets as they did yesterday.

No more game possible because of bad lights

Sign of relief for the whole Pakistan team and and they will be hoping for heavy rain tomorrow. Also James Anderson need only two wickets to complete his 600 wickets.

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