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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 21, 2020, 10:14:54 AM

^^^ Don't know what happened to Virat Kohli. He used to be the only Indian batsmen who performs consistently abroad. I guess he is now finding it difficult to manage both captaincy and his own batting. Regarding Jadeja, I think that he could have added more variety to the bowling attack, in tandem with the off-spinner Ashwin.

As now IPL coming this is also big issue with Kohli his team never perform good in this event so he is also effect by this but still its long way to go now this Rain could be survivor or bring some more troubles for India now we have few hours as second day play is going to start hopefully something good will happen for them.

Oh dear what you done Pant run out and Ashwin first ball out bowled by Southee.

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Looking at the stats here, we can see Taylor, Ashwin and Rahane. They had a choice between Jadeja and Ashwin so they picked the latter which seems fine now even though the top-order batsmen were a sheer disappointment. Last moment the one who you have least expectations from ends up performing well.

NZ have got a brilliant bowler in the form of Jamieson. Can't believe it's his first match and he has already managed 3 wickets.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 21, 2020, 07:39:29 AM

They could have selected Jadeja in the place of Vihari and Yuzvendra Chahal in place of Ashwin.

Seriously? Ashwin is a spinning legend. He is not as good as he is back at home, but he is still a lethal spinner abroad. However, I do agree that Jadeja should have been in the squad since I love their combo a lot.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 21, 2020, 10:14:54 AM

Don't know what happened to Virat Kohli. He used to be the only Indian batsmen who performs consistently abroad. I guess he is now finding it difficult to manage both captaincy and his own batting.

Kohli under-performed in just a couple of matches recently which is not really a big deal. No one can perform consistently all the time. Kohli and Smith are not perfect, but are the most consistent players across all formats to have graced the sport.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 21, 2020, 08:43:32 AM

Quote from: mersal on February 21, 2020, 08:31:50 AM

Vihari played better in the warm up match this is the reason why he is included into the squad,Ashwin also played better than Jaddu and he is clearly better all rounder than Jadeja in test format so why need to skip him? Mistakes done by the batsmen so blaming the selection of bowlers has nothing to do with it for now.

Performing against a second-string side is one thing and doing the same against an attack which consists of Boult, Jamieson and Southee is another. I was pointing out the selection of Ashwin, because historically he has performed poorly outside the sub-continent. And this time the New Zealand curators prepared a pitch that is very conductive to pace bowling.

So India should have played with four pacers but they dropped Yadav who has the pace to create impact on pitches like these and Saini who bowled really well in the shorter form of this series but selection made to the wrong and experimental side.India is going back to old era when they only relied on Sachin too much to win a game now its Kohli. Huh

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Quote from: erikalui on February 21, 2020, 09:00:24 AM

Ashwin is good for test matches but Jadeja is also needed when we have so many inexperienced batsmen and we can see the obvious results in the ODI and now these Test matches. Jadeja helps to pick up the game unlike anyone.

There is no doubt that Ravindra Jadeja is an impact player and he will perform with the ball bat and a tremendous fielder but in foreign pitches they will not have the luxury to play two spinners and Ashwin is only playing Test matches for India and hence he got the nod to play i guess.

Quote from: erikalui on February 21, 2020, 09:00:24 AM

Pant could be replaced by Saha here as Saha is so much better in tests. The selection team needs to rethink about their choices.

Pant is still in the crease and if he could play a huge innings and recover the team then everything will change, Saha is a much better wicket keeper and Pant really needs improvement on his keeping skills and if he could play a better innings and contribute with the bat then it will change how we view his selection.

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^^^ Don't know what happened to Virat Kohli. He used to be the only Indian batsmen who performs consistently abroad. I guess he is now finding it difficult to manage both captaincy and his own batting. Regarding Jadeja, I think that he could have added more variety to the bowling attack, in tandem with the off-spinner Ashwin.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 21, 2020, 04:26:30 AM

Ravichandran Ashwin is not a bad batsman as he have 4 Test centuries to his name and with a green wicket you cannot include two spinners.

Ashwin is good for test matches but Jadeja is also needed when we have so many inexperienced batsmen and we can see the obvious results in the ODI and now these Test matches. Jadeja helps to pick up the game unlike anyone.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on February 21, 2020, 07:39:29 AM

I would regard Jadeja as the most under-rated player in the current squad. He makes crucial contributions but always get overshadowed by the others. I don't understand the selection of Ravichandran Ashwin and Hanuma Vihari for this match, as these two players have not performed in overseas tracks. They could have selected Jadeja in the place of Vihari and Yuzvendra Chahal in place of Ashwin.

Vihari was good in the warm-up match but don't know why they chose the same opening batsmen when they have not been performing since long. Kohli also has not been performing and not been watching his own form. Pant could be replaced by Saha here as Saha is so much better in tests. The selection team needs to rethink about their choices.

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Quote from: mersal on February 21, 2020, 08:31:50 AM

Vihari played better in the warm up match this is the reason why he is included into the squad,Ashwin also played better than Jaddu and he is clearly better all rounder than Jadeja in test format so why need to skip him? Mistakes done by the batsmen so blaming the selection of bowlers has nothing to do with it for now.

Performing against a second-string side is one thing and doing the same against an attack which consists of Boult, Jamieson and Southee is another. I was pointing out the selection of Ashwin, because historically he has performed poorly outside the sub-continent. And this time the New Zealand curators prepared a pitch that is very conductive to pace bowling.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 21, 2020, 02:48:11 AM

Why is Jadeja not playing? Was depending on him to make 20 more runs like he always does Sad

I would regard Jadeja as the most under-rated player in the current squad. He makes crucial contributions but always get overshadowed by the others. I don't understand the selection of Ravichandran Ashwin and Hanuma Vihari for this match, as these two players have not performed in overseas tracks. They could have selected Jadeja in the place of Vihari and Yuzvendra Chahal in place of Ashwin.

Vihari played better in the warm up match this is the reason why he is included into the squad,Ashwin also played better than Jaddu and he is clearly better all rounder than Jadeja in test format so why need to skip him? Mistakes done by the batsmen so blaming the selection of bowlers has nothing to do with it for now.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 21, 2020, 02:48:11 AM

Why is Jadeja not playing? Was depending on him to make 20 more runs like he always does Sad

I would regard Jadeja as the most under-rated player in the current squad. He makes crucial contributions but always get overshadowed by the others. I don't understand the selection of Ravichandran Ashwin and Hanuma Vihari for this match, as these two players have not performed in overseas tracks. They could have selected Jadeja in the place of Vihari and Yuzvendra Chahal in place of Ashwin.

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Prithvi Shaw out for 16 and Mayank Agarwal out for 34, what on earth were they thinking? Both have been playing pathetically from the one day series. Kyle Jameson destroyed the Indian middle order, this how you debut.

Rain saved the Indian team today otherwise they would have been all out for less than 200 runs. All hopes are now with Ajinkya Rahane and Rishab Panth tomorrow.

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Quote from: erikalui on February 21, 2020, 02:48:11 AM

Thanks for the rain that the first innings did not get over for 170 all out...But looks like India will get sometime to think where they went wrong as 122 for 5 is a horrible score. They need atleast another 150+ runs but only with 2 batsmen out there, it's going to be tough. Disappointed with Virat and Vihari both great batsmen getting out for digits.

The debutante Kyle Jamieson made his presence felt for India and with the weather like this forecast throughout this match we might loose match time everyday i guess and the match depends upon how New Zealand is going to play in the first innings as India too have some quality fast bowlers.

Quote from: erikalui on February 21, 2020, 02:48:11 AM

Why is Jadeja not playing? Was depending on him to make 20 more runs like he always does Sad

Ravichandran Ashwin is not a bad batsman as he have 4 Test centuries to his name and with a green wicket you cannot include two spinners.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 20, 2020, 10:15:04 PM

Lastly the current score is 122 for 5 wickets, and if India don’t post a respectable total then i feel that suddenly New Zealand will become the favourites to win this test match.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/119709967/new-zealand-vs-india-dream-debut-for-kyle-jamieson-with-virat-kohli-wicket

They are already the favorites to win this one. The Indian bowlers are skilled enough to dismantle the NZ batting lineup, but the batsmen need to post something close to 300 to provide them an opportunity to do so.

Quote from: JSRAW on February 20, 2020, 10:57:52 PM

Lol Rain came to rescue but small drizzle not going to save match for India.

Agreed. I am disappointed with Pant being selected over Saha and even more disappointed to see the Indian team change their batting lineup drastically. NZ are playing against a young Indian side who have been under-performing lately(Practice match gave us a preview).

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Thanks for the rain that the first innings did not get over for 170 all out...But looks like India will get sometime to think where they went wrong as 122 for 5 is a horrible score. They need atleast another 150+ runs but only with 2 batsmen out there, it's going to be tough. Disappointed with Virat and Vihari both great batsmen getting out for digits.

Why is Jadeja not playing? Was depending on him to make 20 more runs like he always does Sad

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Another test match getting affected due to rain interruption. Angry

The climate change is playing havoc with the international cricket schedule and I think that very soon we will be forced to stage all the matches involving international teams in the United Arab Emirates. Only 55 overs could be completed today and in case the weather doesn't improve in the coming days, then we'll be having yet another boring draw.

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Quote from: onrise on February 21, 2020, 12:17:31 AM

NZ winning the toss and decided rightly to field and result is in front of us as they have picked 5 wickets for score of 122 runs . India would be very disappointed with this start as rain just helped them to take a beak else I think today they would have being all out . Jamieson spell was just amazing and picked 3 wickets out of 5.

Team India made mistake again? I guess not having right combination resulted into such short wickets in the first day itself.India strongly relied on batsmen so they picked only four bowlers into playing XI now its again hard work for bowling squad if there is not enough runs on the score board.I am interested to see Aswin's performance he is capable of scoring century as well and best test all rounder for long time can he prove his skill and make a comeback into the team?

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NZ winning the toss and decided rightly to field and result is in front of us as they have picked 5 wickets for score of 122 runs . India would be very disappointed with this start as rain just helped them to take a beak else I think today they would have being all out . Jamieson spell was just amazing and picked 3 wickets out of 5.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 20, 2020, 10:15:04 PM

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@JSRAW what a incredible test debut for Jamieson as he’s picked up 3 valuable wickets, and Indian batman are currently struggling to face him so do you expect him to take more wickets as the match progresses?.

True, dream debut for him. yeah Why not? I would say good opportunity for him to take fifer in his debut game, he can easily knock down tailenders.

Mayank's dismissal was disappointing. He did all the hard work for 2 long hours and then wasted his wicket on very loose delivery.

Lol Rain came to rescue but small drizzle not going to save match for India.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 20, 2020, 10:15:04 PM

Quote from: BitSat19 on February 20, 2020, 06:43:11 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 20, 2020, 06:32:17 PM

^^ thing still looking okay for Indians despite losing 1 wicket, atleast they didn't lose the 2 wickets in first hour lol considering its dark green wicket Cheesy

and So far Pujara and Mayank handling new ball quite well, for kiwis new guy Jamieson looking excellent.

@JSRAW sorry after watching your post here as I click on television Pujara gone I am accepting my mistake and want apologises from my deep heart now just click off television and back in business here on this forum sorry again man please don't feel bad Wink

Edit: 101 for 5 Rahane and Pant on crease.

@JSRAW what a incredible test debut for Jamieson as he’s picked up 3 valuable wickets, and Indian batman are currently struggling to face him so do you expect him to take more wickets as the match progresses?. @BitSat19 what are you apologising for can you be more specific, also I feel that this is a golden opportunity for Rishabh Pant to score lots of runs and secure his place in ODI and T20 formats but question is will he be able to grab this opportunity or not?. Lastly the current score is 122 for 5 wickets and if India don’t post a respectable total then i feel that suddenly New Zealand will become the favourites to win this test match.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/119709967/new-zealand-vs-india-dream-debut-for-kyle-jamieson-with-virat-kohli-wicket

I was joking with @JSRAW because as I check his post here on forum I switch on my television as match appear Pujara out so I feel bad and switch off television after some time I check there was 101 for 5 its really poor start by Indian top order now Pant and Rahane can do some better for team.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on February 20, 2020, 06:43:11 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 20, 2020, 06:32:17 PM

^^ thing still looking okay for Indians despite losing 1 wicket, atleast they didn't lose the 2 wickets in first hour lol considering its dark green wicket Cheesy

and So far Pujara and Mayank handling new ball quite well, for kiwis new guy Jamieson looking excellent.

@JSRAW sorry after watching your post here as I click on television Pujara gone I am accepting my mistake and want apologises from my deep heart now just click off television and back in business here on this forum sorry again man please don't feel bad Wink

Edit: 101 for 5 Rahane and Pant on crease.

@JSRAW what a incredible test debut for Jamieson as he’s picked up 3 valuable wickets, and Indian batman are currently struggling to face him so do you expect him to take more wickets as the match progresses?. @BitSat19 what are you apologising for can you be more specific, also I feel that this is a golden opportunity for Rishabh Pant to score lots of runs and secure his place in ODI and T20 formats but question is will he be able to grab this opportunity or not?. Lastly the current score is 122 for 5 wickets, and if India don’t post a respectable total then i feel that suddenly New Zealand will become the favourites to win this test match.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/119709967/new-zealand-vs-india-dream-debut-for-kyle-jamieson-with-virat-kohli-wicket

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