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Zak Crawley made a good come back and took advantage of the opportunity he got in this series and scored his maiden ton and he is poised to score a double century and along with Jos Buttler who is short of century took the game away from Pakistan, the worrying factor for England is that the top order is not performing consistently and if not for the fifth wicket partnership things could have been different.

True. Although there is a slight chance for Pakistan to come back hard and make a draw out of this match, I don't see a chance available for levelling the series. ENG has a clear upper hand in this match and I don't think that Pakistan could sack ENG in their second innings thereby winning this match and levelling the series. They had a chance at toppling the English innings when they managed to grab some quick wickets, but the partnership between Crawley and Butler costs them badly.

Pakistani management not taking any lesson from mistakes and doing again and again just because of this now they are on verge of losing this second test match and series so badly today England was really on top from start of match and they outclass all bowlers just Muhammad Abbas done some good bowling others was really poor Yasir was also some good in start but after this big partnership he also lost his rythum now England in all control lets see how they do tomorrow.

Quote from: JSRAW on August 22, 2020, 12:34:16 AM

Not sure if blaming management or selectors is going to solve any problem right now. Pakistan went there with more than 20 plus players and best fast bowlers playing in the match, Afridi and Naseem are young players and lack experience so they will learn with the experience as the time goes but i am sure no one really want to see old Wahab Riaz replacing them in the Whites.

I think that this match is already out of Pakistan’s hand, and if England manage to score 500+ runs, and also manage take some early wickets, then I believe that Pakistan innings will crumble and eventually they’ll loose the match.

Also @JSRAW has a fair point at this stage those player’s are young, and they need to get experiences like this to get better, and hence instead of being critical of the selectors we should instead appreciate them for taking such risks, and giving these player’s the required experience that will help them become better player’s in the long run.

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Quote from: Indymoney on August 21, 2020, 04:46:21 PM

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Pakistani management not taking any lesson from mistakes and doing again and again just because of this now they are on verge of losing this second test match and series so badly today England was really on top from start of match and they outclass all bowlers just Muhammad Abbas done some good bowling others was really poor Yasir was also some good in start but after this big partnership he also lost his rythum now England in all control lets see how they do tomorrow.

Not sure if blaming management or selectors is going to solve any problem right now. Pakistan went there with more than 20 plus players and best fast bowlers playing in the match, Afridi and Naseem are young players and lack experience so they will learn with the experience as the time goes but i am sure no one really want to see old Wahab Riaz replacing them in the Whites.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 21, 2020, 01:05:51 PM

Zak Crawley made a good come back and took advantage of the opportunity he got in this series and scored his maiden ton and he is poised to score a double century and along with Jos Buttler who is short of century took the game away from Pakistan, the worrying factor for England is that the top order is not performing consistently and if not for the fifth wicket partnership things could have been different.

True. Although there is a slight chance for Pakistan to come back hard and make a draw out of this match, I don't see a chance available for levelling the series. ENG has a clear upper hand in this match and I don't think that Pakistan could sack ENG in their second innings thereby winning this match and levelling the series. They had a chance at toppling the English innings when they managed to grab some quick wickets, but the partnership between Crawley and Butler costs them badly.

Pakistani management not taking any lesson from mistakes and doing again and again just because of this now they are on verge of losing this second test match and series so badly today England was really on top from start of match and they outclass all bowlers just Muhammad Abbas done some good bowling others was really poor Yasir was also some good in start but after this big partnership he also lost his rythum now England in all control lets see how they do tomorrow.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on August 21, 2020, 01:05:51 PM

Zak Crawley made a good come back and took advantage of the opportunity he got in this series and scored his maiden ton and he is poised to score a double century and along with Jos Buttler who is short of century took the game away from Pakistan, the worrying factor for England is that the top order is not performing consistently and if not for the fifth wicket partnership things could have been different.

True. Although there is a slight chance for Pakistan to come back hard and make a draw out of this match, I don't see a chance available for levelling the series. ENG has a clear upper hand in this match and I don't think that Pakistan could sack ENG in their second innings thereby winning this match and levelling the series. They had a chance at toppling the English innings when they managed to grab some quick wickets, but the partnership between Crawley and Butler costs them badly.

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Zak Crawley made a good come back and took advantage of the opportunity he got in this series and scored his maiden ton and he is poised to score a double century and along with Jos Buttler who is short of century took the game away from Pakistan, the worrying factor for England is that the top order is not performing consistently and if not for the fifth wicket partnership things could have been different.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 21, 2020, 11:42:31 AM

Not a good day for Pakistan overall.. their last hope is new ball which is due soon. They should get at least some breakthrough. this partnership already done enough damage but couple of wickets could do some damage control and might give some breathing space which is very much necessary for Pak's cause.

289/4 80 overs
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And 300 up for England

First over with new ball cost 17 runs mean now Pakistan is out of business and its all on England and rain how they response 180 runs partnership is really worth for any team England easly can cross 450+ and then give Pakistan batting they already struggling so most chances they will lost by an inning or rain with give them salvage from here.

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Not a good day for Pakistan overall.. their last hope is new ball which is due soon. They should get at least some breakthrough. this partnership already done enough damage but couple of wickets could do some damage control and might give some breathing space which is very much necessary for Pak's cause.

289/4 80 overs
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Scorecard is not looking too bad for English team after first session. Run rate is healthy as well which means bowlers are not getting much help from the pitch, more problems for Pakistan as they have seam bowlers who don't rely or focus on reverse swing much, at least that's what we have seen in this series so far.

ENG : 91/2 , 28 overs

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Oops 127/4 now

For me first two sessions completely belong to England as they are doing very good batting right now 350+ is very good for them and they can bring Pakistan under pressure in batting so if weather could be ok then they will be able to win this match easily

Tea 184/4 56 overs

Crawley impressive century has helped England to post a good total in first innings and have reached 206/4 and 26 overs remaining for the day. They would like to reach atleast 300 runs and not try to lose much wickets in the remaining overs. England should be targeting getting 400+ runs from this point.

England can easily reach 400+ in this innings because they are 232-4 and Zak Crawley is playing very comfortably at 125. The only thing which will be on the minds of the England players will be the weather. They would desperately want weather not to disturb this test match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 21, 2020, 07:25:14 AM

Scorecard is not looking too bad for English team after first session. Run rate is healthy as well which means bowlers are not getting much help from the pitch, more problems for Pakistan as they have seam bowlers who don't rely or focus on reverse swing much, at least that's what we have seen in this series so far.

ENG : 91/2 , 28 overs

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Oops 127/4 now

For me first two sessions completely belong to England as they are doing very good batting right now 350+ is very good for them and they can bring Pakistan under pressure in batting so if weather could be ok then they will be able to win this match easily

Tea 184/4 56 overs

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Scorecard is not looking too bad for English team after first session. Run rate is healthy as well which means bowlers are not getting much help from the pitch, more problems for Pakistan as they have seam bowlers who don't rely or focus on reverse swing much, at least that's what we have seen in this series so far.

ENG : 91/2 , 28 overs

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Oops 127/4 now

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England won the toss and decided to bat. Not the ideal start by England as lost Root quickly on 6 runs when team score was 12. Sibley & Crawley are building on the partnership and England have reached 48/1. they will require to score big in this innings and make at least 400+ runs in first innings and hopefully today there would not be any interruption in the match.

You done some mistake as first batsman lost his wicket is Burns not Root now next pair is doing good job as Crawly is on fire 55/1 in 15 overs look like they are going with some good target as keeping in mind if rains disturb them then they must have some good back up plan like first inning big score can help them very good.

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All things aside India still not winning the WTC at any cost Grin

even if they reach the finals easily. England/Australia/Newzealand are very strong in comparison of India when playing in the English condition ( lords)

Indian pace bowlers are nowadays performing well in the overseas conditions. The problem is with the spin bowlers and the batsmen. From what I have seen, Virat Kohli is perhaps the only Indian batsmen who has performed consistently under English conditions. Things may improve if some of the Indian batsmen participate in the county championship. But it looks as if they are not interested in this low-paying highly effort intensive stint.

Indian batsmen are pretty much lost cause in English condition, one of the main reason indians failed to win series there after 2007 and not expecting any change in status quo anytime soon.

Not playing enough warm up games before any series is another reason along with not many batters participating in counties, some batsmen trying but clearly it's not enough.

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Pakistan lost the toss and possibly series as well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 19, 2020, 07:46:42 AM

All things aside India still not winning the WTC at any cost Grin

even if they reach the finals easily. England/Australia/Newzealand are very strong in comparison of India when playing in the English condition ( lords)

Indian pace bowlers are nowadays performing well in the overseas conditions. The problem is with the spin bowlers and the batsmen. From what I have seen, Virat Kohli is perhaps the only Indian batsmen who has performed consistently under English conditions. Things may improve if some of the Indian batsmen participate in the county championship. But it looks as if they are not interested in this low-paying highly effort intensive stint.

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Pakistan is not happy because now they are leaking their wounds they lost golden opportunity to win this series and good points in first test now second is already end in draw and most chances third is also going to end in draw because too much rain expected so this series is going to end on just first test result which is clearly not good for them but England is also not happy as now they are feeling they can do some more good after winning first test.

Pakistan might be happy as rain prevented them to be 0-2 which means they are still having decent chances to square the series rather than being already lost the series. The 3rd test is going to be played at Southampton which might be flat surface then there would be a decent chances for Pakistan players to score more and to put England to chase to make them feel the pressure to defeat England. But, England will be a fiery team in home soil and they have improved batting line who may bat like T20 matches even in test cricket.

If Pakistan will look for more spinning options then probably they get chances to put England in back foot as English team is always known for struggling against spinners even in home grounds.

I also think that Pakistan would be happy with the result in being a draw as it still gives them a chance to at least draw the series which would be a good outcome for them after letting England back into the series with their second innings poor performance in the first test match. Even with all the rain around hopefully we'll see one team win the third test.

I have heard the weather will not be good in the third test in Southampton. If there is no result in the last test, it will be really disappointing. I hope the rain stays away and we can see some live cricket on our television screens.

We all looking for a match without any rain because now its enough is enough but sadly no one can stand against nature so we have to face this all I just check all weather report last two days are very bad for rain if something special happen then surely we are going to watch an interesting match otherwise another weather hit match is waiting for us,

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Quote from: vella85 on August 18, 2020, 05:52:27 PM

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Quote from: Indymoney on August 18, 2020, 06:27:35 AM

Pakistan is not happy because now they are leaking their wounds they lost golden opportunity to win this series and good points in first test now second is already end in draw and most chances third is also going to end in draw because too much rain expected so this series is going to end on just first test result which is clearly not good for them but England is also not happy as now they are feeling they can do some more good after winning first test.

Pakistan might be happy as rain prevented them to be 0-2 which means they are still having decent chances to square the series rather than being already lost the series. The 3rd test is going to be played at Southampton which might be flat surface then there would be a decent chances for Pakistan players to score more and to put England to chase to make them feel the pressure to defeat England. But, England will be a fiery team in home soil and they have improved batting line who may bat like T20 matches even in test cricket.

If Pakistan will look for more spinning options then probably they get chances to put England in back foot as English team is always known for struggling against spinners even in home grounds.

I also think that Pakistan would be happy with the result in being a draw as it still gives them a chance to at least draw the series which would be a good outcome for them after letting England back into the series with their second innings poor performance in the first test match. Even with all the rain around hopefully we'll see one team win the third test.

I have heard the weather will not be good in the third test in Southampton. If there is no result in the last test, it will be really disappointing. I hope the rain stays away and we can see some live cricket on our television screens.

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Quote from: Indymoney on August 20, 2020, 12:48:04 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on August 20, 2020, 07:57:02 AM

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Tomorrow we will have some rain and then two days are going ok for third and final test as Root want some hard push from players for good win against Pakistan but I am feeling this match is also going to be draw due to bad weather as last two days are not good enough as showing on different weather forecast sites. https://www.bbc.com/weather/2637487

Considering inconsistent batting line up of both teams against the quality seam bowlers, i think 3.5 days of gameplay is enough for good contest or if we are lucky then may be result as well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 20, 2020, 07:57:02 AM

^^ But don't get surprise if England manage to reach finals, one fine example is 2019 World Cup
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Eng vs Pak
One way to fulfill per day overs quota....
Early start now an option for the third England-Pakistan Test

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The Test match normally starts at 11 am in England, with the lost overs due to weather conditions accommodated towards the end of the day's play. But bad light put paid to that in the second Test, prompting the ICC and the ECB to take this call.

If needed, the first session can now be two and half hours long with a scheduled close at 6 pm local time. There will be a 30-minute extension in case the overs are not bowled in time and if case of bad weather, play can be extended till 7 pm local time.

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"The revised start times have been agreed with the captains and coaches of both England and Pakistan and will be implemented for the final match of this series."

After the heavily hampered second Test because of rain, the match officials came under heavy scrutiny for their approach as bad light continued to impact play.

Tomorrow we will have some rain and then two days are going ok for third and final test as Root want some hard push from players for good win against Pakistan but I am feeling this match is also going to be draw due to bad weather as last two days are not good enough as showing on different weather forecast sites. https://www.bbc.com/weather/2637487

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^^ But don't get surprise if England manage to reach finals, one fine example is 2019 World Cup
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Eng vs Pak
One way to fulfill per day overs quota....
Early start now an option for the third England-Pakistan Test

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The Test match normally starts at 11 am in England, with the lost overs due to weather conditions accommodated towards the end of the day's play. But bad light put paid to that in the second Test, prompting the ICC and the ECB to take this call.

If needed, the first session can now be two and half hours long with a scheduled close at 6 pm local time. There will be a 30-minute extension in case the overs are not bowled in time and if case of bad weather, play can be extended till 7 pm local time.

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"The revised start times have been agreed with the captains and coaches of both England and Pakistan and will be implemented for the final match of this series."

After the heavily hampered second Test because of rain, the match officials came under heavy scrutiny for their approach as bad light continued to impact play.

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Quote from: JSRAW on August 19, 2020, 07:46:42 AM

All things aside India still not winning the WTC at any cost Grin

even if they reach the finals easily. England/Australia/Newzealand are very strong in comparison of India when playing in the English condition ( lords)

This is very strong point but I am feeling England is not going to be in final its India vs Australia/New Zealand because these two teams are much better then England even they are playing in England or home.

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All things aside India still not winning the WTC at any cost Grin

even if they reach the finals easily. England/Australia/Newzealand are very strong in comparison of India when playing in the English condition ( lords)

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