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legendary
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June 05, 2018, 05:33:24 PM
@kate_sills
 22m22 minutes ago..
As Satoshi points out, even Bitcoin was intended to support a wide variety of agreements, including "escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration," and "multi-party signature." https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1611

But Satoshi never wanted third party arbitration OR escrow because if he did he messed up ..

Third parties  Shocked Shocked Shocked< NO NO NO   i don't want a third party poking their noses in my business Angry..
So every time i want to do a deal i need another person ? < NO NO NO ..

Do you want the real reason WHY it's bad ?    third party can be bad bad bad..
Here is a third party SO CALLED  LEGIT   ecrow mates they are trust worthy  Cheesy
EVIDENCE BELOW..

Mintpal scammer Ryan Kennedy arrested in U.K. over theft of 3,700 ...
https://siliconangle.com › NEWS
23 Feb 2015 - Mintpal scammer Ryan Kennedy arrested in U.K. over theft of 3700 ... the Syscoin Escrow fund, Mintpal / Moolah / Ryan Kennedy / Alex Green / etc. ... It's another sordid scam tale in the Bitcoin world..



Kate Sills
33m33 minutes ago

Smart contracts were originally intended to allow people to make agreements without having to rely on court enforcement.<<< WRONG 

Because the very reason to have a contract is so the law can enforce it ..
If i force you to sign a contract and put it on the blockchain     if no law what happens ?..

Sign your house deeds over to me put the contract on the blockchain     and then kill you so your gone..
If no law to enforce anything what happens? ..

Man forges homeowner's signature to steal, sell her Brooklyn home ...
pix11.com/2017/.../man-forges-homeowners-signature-to-steal-sell-her-brooklyn-ho...
6 Apr 2017 - CANARSIE, Brooklyn — Police arrested a Nassau County man who allegedly stole a ... Kenneth Pearson, 56, allegedly filed a property deed transfer with the Office of the City ... The signature of the home's actual owner was forged. .... Off-duty officer shoots, kills armed robber in Brooklyn; 2nd man sought.

How Police Say Two Women Almost Got Away With Stealing at Least ...
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/police-women-stealing-houses/story?id=26328002
22 Oct 2014 - WATCH Woman Discovers House Was Stolen in Real Estate Rip-Off ... Mother of 5 Convicted of Killing Son Will Face New Capital Murder ... Duelley got a search warrant for Lee's home and discovered a stack of deeds he said were forged ... but were told they couldn't find them in the system as the owners.

Man allegedly hired seniors to pose as dead homeowners in deed scam
https://nypost.com/.../man-allegedly-hired-seniors-to-pose-as-dead-homeowners-in-de...
9 May 2017 - A Brooklyn ​man hired​ seniors to pose as dead people ​and file phony ownership deeds ​so he could steal six properties across the borough​. ... in order to “reanimate” the deceased property owners, some of whom had ... Characters Killed Off Because of the Actor's Ridiculous BehaviorNickiSwift.com.

NOW IMAGINE NO LAW     WHO SORTS OUT ABOVE? ..

A smart contract ? Tongue Tongue

I say a smart contract is   A CONTRACT that cannot be erased  Wink 
You always have a COPY Wink  but for the law to ENFORCE if need be
Otherwise what's the point in a contract wouldn't an agreement just be as good?..
Shake hands even  Roll Eyes....

If someone signs a contract with another party and they lose their copy of the contract, does the other party have any legal obligation to give them a copy of the contract upon request?

legendary
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Get Some!
June 05, 2018, 03:36:40 PM
Tezos Foundation is issuing a grant to Cryptonomic project for wallet
https://tezosfoundation.ch/news/tezos-foundation-issuing-grant-cryptonomic-project-wallet/
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 252
June 05, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.


Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

Ok so it is quite safe to expect a good number of people to take profit when it launches in that price range.

I seriously don't think most people who were forced to hold for an entire year to be happy with 3x gains.
Not when everything went at least 10x by the end of Year. Is there tomorrows release date happening, or just a rumors?
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 05, 2018, 10:54:58 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.


Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

Ok so it is quite safe to expect a good number of people to take profit when it launches in that price range.

I seriously don't think most people who were forced to hold for an entire year to be happy with 3x gains.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
June 05, 2018, 10:02:57 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.


Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.

Ok so it is quite safe to expect a good number of people to take profit when it launches in that price range.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 04, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.


Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?

If it launched at $5 at today's btc price those selling tezos would gain about 3x in bitcoin value.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
June 04, 2018, 04:21:44 PM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.


Any data as to what the average price for investors was? Haven't been following this a lot but it seems that there would be massive instant profit if it lists at $5?
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
June 04, 2018, 02:23:12 PM
https://tezosfoundation.ch/news/tezos-foundation-issuing-grant-cryptonomic-project-wallet/

Cryptonomic is developing a wallet that can be used to interact with the Tezos blockchain for the upcoming betanet launch.
legendary
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Get Some!
June 04, 2018, 12:17:33 PM
Tezos Baking Recipe by Tezos Korea
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De0ij8hUcAAgxTc.jpg:large
newbie
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June 04, 2018, 09:27:22 AM
Tezos is an impressive project, waiting for a big pump at the end of this year. I bought some on HitBTC exchange, hope this will bring a big profit by holding  Grin
member
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June 04, 2018, 08:26:05 AM
 the technology of TEZOS is very good. Marketing is not doing very well at the moment. I believe the project team will strengthen this effort later.
hero member
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June 03, 2018, 11:13:12 PM
It should be round the corner that official announcement for beta launch now. We are already in June and most probably during work days we will have that most awaited news whenever will be. Many people didn't keep their passphrases safe and are facing troubles now. One of my friends also can't find his password anymore. This is going to be seen widely in coming days.

It seems many people won't be able to access their funds unfortunatelly. I also thought that we would just need passphrase but it seems we need password and email too.
That's one of those things that we need to securely kept even it seems that a project had a very long way of providing the technology that they are working. I don't think how tezos will take action on that first its a human and own mistakes of not keeping it. Thus, it very hard to access and cannot be reset if you cant open it.
legendary
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June 02, 2018, 10:51:22 AM
Posted byu/ebwvibfhwbovchwdshjd
21 hours ago
Blockchains are not startups – A Must Read for Tezosers
medium.com/tezos/...

Tezosers Cheesy
So what are you up to you tezosers Cheesy

Rather have me tezzies  than be a wanker Cheesy

And TEZ is short for TERRY

Hay tez what are you doing with those tezosers  Cheesy Nothing just sitting here playing with me tezzies..
sr. member
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June 02, 2018, 06:11:30 AM
It should be round the corner that official announcement for beta launch now. We are already in June and most probably during work days we will have that most awaited news whenever will be. Many people didn't keep their passphrases safe and are facing troubles now. One of my friends also can't find his password anymore. This is going to be seen widely in coming days.

It seems many people won't be able to access their funds unfortunatelly. I also thought that we would just need passphrase but it seems we need password and email too.
legendary
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Merit: 1027
June 02, 2018, 05:51:01 AM
To all blockchains   why have you got a cryptocurrency ?..

So why crypto billionaire clubs ?..
You are saying only if your a billionaire your welcome in our club..

Now right there that's a problem WHY..

Well just think if on chain governance or head of foundations can be bribed what is the major problem?..

The problem is no different than the way governments act < Billionaire crypto clubs..
The little people cannot be in that club Angry..

Now lets look at TEZOS on chain governance plus delegation services or delegation vote..

Lets say we vote and someone wins    then gets bribed     what can we bribe them to do ?..

Well i can say everyone with so many tokens will have all the say say 10K tezos ..
Now how many wallets left with 10k in them?

It gets less wallets to vote meaning little wallets will have no say ..

Now lets say i bribe someone to do a new protocol for TEZOS like anyone with 100k or more can do this but anyone with less cannot ..

we have new technology but only those with 100k can join our club ..

The Bitcoin Billionaire Club May be Bigger Thank You Think ...
https://cryptocoinmastery.com/bitcoin-billionaire-club-may-bigger-thank-think/
3 Jan 2018 - The Bitcoin Billionaires club has been growing quite quickly as the crypto continues its upward trend. The Winklevoss twins were the first widely .


So really are we not just swapping 1 type of currency for another   when really no change because those
that rule still rule ?..

We are creating crypto for a better world Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  BULLSHIT  for the monies  FACT..

If i see a Tezos Billionaire club i will hit the ROOF Angry..

My idea is even if you own 1 tezos you have the same power as someone who owns 1 million tezos.. Wink

What's good for the 1 million tezos person is good for the 1 tezos person Wink..
Like..
Good for the goose    good for the gander  Grin..

To have 10k tezos would of cost 5k  now 40k   so how does poor mary get a say Cry Cry

Kathleen would say?  fuck you tramp Cheesy Cheesy


legendary
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June 02, 2018, 04:22:14 AM
It should be round the corner that official announcement for beta launch now. We are already in June and most probably during work days we will have that most awaited news whenever will be. Many people didn't keep their passphrases safe and are facing troubles now. One of my friends also can't find his password anymore. This is going to be seen widely in coming days.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1027
June 02, 2018, 04:03:50 AM
On chain governance  Undecided..

Just think Tezos on chain governance is the same as the USA electoral college  no different ..

Just think even if you win the vote doesn't mean you get to decide ..

Like when MR TRUMP won he never won the votes the electoral college decided the vote
just the same as TEZOS will do ..

So maybe one day you be like HILARY CLINTON Cheesy..

Think you won but haven't Cheesy..

So really it's like the EUROPEAN UNION   they can make you vote again and again until they like what they see NOT YOU..

So is TEZOS really on chain governance ?

I won the vote YIPEEE  so i decide  HMMM well you sort of decide   if we don't like your vote then NO you haven't won the vote ..Arr you see that's so the LITTLE PEOPLE think they got a vote.. Angry

electoral college is TEZOS   
European union is TEZOS ..

I will prove my point below..

How Hillary Clinton Won the Popular Vote But Lost the Election ...
https://www.billboard.com/.../electoral-college-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-2016-pre...
9 Nov 2016 - Donald Trump defeated Hillary Clinton last night (Nov. Cool to become the 45th President of the United States. Here's a basic explainer of the .


Brendan O'Neill: Asking the Irish to vote again on the Lisbon treaty is ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/dec/13/eu-ireland-lisbon-treaty
13 Dec 2008 - Brendan O'Neill: Asking the Irish to vote again on the Lisbon treaty is ... think of Ireland as European, and have travelled, worked and made ...

EU begins secret drive to force Ireland to vote again on rejected ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../EU-begins-secret-drive-force-Ireland-vote-rejected-Lisbon-T...
11 Sep 2008 - Neil O'Brien, of Eurosceptic think-tank Open Europe, said: 'The EU simply won't take no for answer. They will make Ireland vote again and .


SO IS TEZOS    ABOVE   YES IT IS    ASK KATHLEEN  Wink..

Yes she said even if you win the delegation vote doesn't mean the upgrade gets put in because
WE meaning arthur and TF decide    ..

Just like the EU  making Ireland vote again
Just like the electoral-college ..

I like MR TRUMP  but do you Cheesy..

So will TEZOS be like the EU and electoral-college ? 

SO is TEZOS really on chain governance or a con to make the little people think they got a vote when really they haven't ?..

The proof is   MR TRUMP
The proof is IRELAND  getting made to vote again and again ..

TEZOS doesn't like the little people  Cry Cry  So why get made to vote again?..

Then if you don't the delegation services could be bribed Wink..

So now sort the problems i put forward because it's a major problem ..

Do you want a  MR TRUMP ..I do     but do you?..

Mr trump as brought all the swamp life out who suck our life blood money..

The money VAMPIRES like clinton and Co..

legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1027
June 01, 2018, 05:28:32 PM
Governance for every blockchain ..

Make a YES or NO vote ..

Make 2 wallet addresses like when you send someone bitcoin ..

1st  bitcoin address with a YES vote
2nd bitcoin address with a NO vote

Make sections with countries in boxes then send bitcoin to what ever you think ..

Example   should we make this change or what ever to our blockchain      YES or NO vote

So what ever you think the right thing to vote on you would send a small amount of bitcoin to yes address
or the no address ..

Then you got voting on your tokens ..

A random picker picks the winners of the vote to be asked again    Yes or no ..

But everyone can now vote  ..You can play with the idea but just make a yes and no address and then the masses can send to the  YES  or NO vote  ..

Now i sent Arthur this i thinks he not like it Cheesy Cheesy..

BUT   ETH DID Wink Wink   Because someone is building a YES or NO voting system for ETH Wink Grin..

Right after i sent ARTHUR it..

But i said if we send a bit of tezos we can vote to see who wins the TEZOS..
Like a voting winner lottery ..

The winner takes it all..Plus decided if the tezos upgrade was ok to do..

BUT everyone now got GOVERNANCE for your token..
legendary
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June 01, 2018, 03:44:29 PM
I watched this i can't remember when but  as she ever thought of adding this to the spinning thing that goes around her head.. Go to 8 minutes in to see the disc spin around her head .. i would watch it all great watch.
 
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Flexible Screen Developed by China Debuts at World Internet ...
Video for flexible screen▶ 1:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcsCrHGDSAk
4 Dec 2017 - Uploaded by CCTV+
The fourth World Internet Conference (WIC) has lived up to its expectation by a worldwide breakthrough with a ...
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Put this around the disc that spins around SimoneGiertz head then play a space simulation game Or just see what effect you get?..
Or build it were we stand in the disc and play as it spins ?

But see you never created useless things ..Give it ago  could be a great way to play games.. Wink

Make a cylinder screen around the spinning thing that SimoneGiertz has around her head then play computer games ..

Light flexible screen 

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