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legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1027
June 01, 2018, 02:52:25 PM
Bitcoin is evolving into a store of value and so increasingly resembles digital gold.

WHY digital gold?    Just think for 1 minute < times up i will tell you why ..
Because we humans say it is            nothing else and nothing more ..

The same why the dutch used tulips   because they as humans decided to use tulips as cash..

So what is money?..

Just think if we destroy the earth to make a computer game  as in the console and the game and then we just play it what have we gained ?
We have gained FUN..   We made things out of plastic and metals to have fun    BUT to have this fun we had to use monies to buy the plastic and metal
that got turned into a games console then we played it to have fun..

So your mind thinks "MONEY" is what got me this console    but really it wasn't it the was work that got you that console ..
People had to work and burn things to create that console then you used money to buy it..

Now Bitcoin is the new digital gold WHY?  yes because we humans said so  plain and simple    no other reason but us humans saying we will except
digital numbers on a screen  ..We cannot touch them but we say as humans they are digital gold   something we cannot touch or smell..

So what is MONEY?..Yes what ever we humans say it is..

So why can't we have a UNIVERSAL INCOME?

Create 2  digital pictures 1 half of the world sells their picture to the other half   thus giving us 10k in digital cash ..

No digging the ground no pollution   just 2 digital pictures   split the planet in half   1 half sells the picture to the other half for 10k  then we both get 10k
each  for our digital picture then destroy the pictures   and create 2 more every year   for all the planets UNIVERSAL INCOME..


Now you say it cannot be done  WHY..

Because if we as humans can say DIGITAL GOLD  and also pay 500 million for a painting  plus use tulips for monies plus BITCOIN being 8k a pop

WHY as humans can't we say we both created a digital picture and both sold it for 10k each ..?

Just think we say one thing is money   but the other is not why   Because we as humans say so   no other reason ..

Why can 1 person have billions in cash   BUT a 10K a year universal income comes to 1 million over a hundred years per person ..
1 person off a universal income will gain 1 million over 1 hundred years then be dead ..

But funny how kings queens lords politicians can pay themselves 100k a year ..

Do you see how we trick our own brains to think we have to start from nothing   then build our cash up   BUT it's not true many many people already
get universal incomes   like kings queens and the likes ..

Just sit and think what " MONEY" really is .. We say bitcoin is the new digital gold   even though we cannot touch or smell it   so if your mind excepts
digital gold as in Bitcoin   Then why can't your mind convince yourself that creating 2 digital pictures that don't pollute the earth plus the fact no plastic
plus the fact like your digital gold as in bitcoin is not mined    and when computer mined it uses loads of ENERGY meaning polluting the earth ..

So why can your mind think that Digital gold is good but a UNIVERSAL INCOME is bad  ..

Remember 1 person can have billions    but a 10k universal income over 1 year will cost 1 million over 100 years ..
BUT it doesn't cost  it's the work that cost  so with the extra universal income  humans lives will be way better off..

Kate sills  i have smashed many of your post on twitter   but you post very very good reads  THANKS..

UNIVERSAL INCOME   for the world then we can buy cryptocurrency  drugs  electric what ever we desire to spend our free UNIVERSAL INCOME

Everyone when reaches 21 years old gets a universal income ..We create 2 digital pictures then sell to each other for 10k pounds dollars..

WHY  if digital gold you cannot touch or smell  is ok  so is a UNIVERSAL INCOME ..

Why do you buy a birthday card   what do you get out of it?  Yes but you need to pay   will you pay with DIGITAL GOLD ?  why it's not real we as humans made it up ..
But you will except digital gold but not a UNIVERSAL INCOME? Kiss Kiss

Think what money is     It's nothing but we convinced ourselves it's worth something  like a 100 million dollar painting  

A bit of colour paint on canvas is worth 100s of millions WHY  because we humans said so  ..

So why can't we have a universal income?..It only takes us humans to say so.. Wink



legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1000
June 01, 2018, 10:05:49 AM
When you compare a valuation of $3.8b to the shit in the top 20 it's not high at all.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
June 01, 2018, 08:21:25 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.


3.8 is huge valuation. But expectations are bigger than that. And when people look at some other projects' valuations like EOS', it is normal.
Already there are projects they said they'd use Tezos, as thinking that $50 million allocation it is won't be surprising to see many projects will use Tezos.
And the baking another advantage when we think many investors following masternode investments.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
June 01, 2018, 08:09:45 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.

$5 would push the total value to: 763,306,929 TZY * $5 = $3.8 bn

Thing is: If the launch should go smooth and Tezos being listed on good exchanges while the overall market situation should not be too bad or even bullish, that may be possible or even find a higher price - considered that EOS for example is traded at a marketcap of about $10 bn.

But... I personally have zero clue what to expect from this project tbh.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
June 01, 2018, 07:56:10 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool

I wouldn't assume that. Because it is so limited market. And thousands of investors have been waiting for the launch almost a year. During that time market prices went up and also expectations. I'm not sure if the investors will be willing to sell around $5.
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
June 01, 2018, 07:39:36 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed

So it's no wrong to assume that the price of 1 TZY will be approximatively 5$ worth. it's not too bad in my opinion  Cool
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
June 01, 2018, 07:33:28 AM
This is something I didn't pay attention to until I saw this tweet:
https://twitter.com/andimule/status/1002183031342469120

Fortunately I found all necessary infos but maybe more out of luck. I don't remember if I knew how important email-address and password are to access the funds. I've read on reddit that there are many who will probably have no access to their funds because they've made a mistake with the password - lost it. The only way to have a chance in such a case seems to be brute-force.

Some blame it totally to the Investors, pointing on the big red warnings on the crowdfunding-site. But those warnings were not there in the first ICO-site-version but added later. I know that for sure because I still have the first version that I used on an offline computer. 

Those who may still don't know about the importance of all informations, including email and password, should check it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tezos/comments/6lvw0r/howto_check_your_password/



I think unfortunately many people won't be able to access their funds. I was thinking that we just needed key, not email or password.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 118
June 01, 2018, 07:26:28 AM
So will tezos be listed and when? I still have mine.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
June 01, 2018, 04:03:29 AM
2 everyone

!!! be careful on which pages you enter/check your password!!!


Yes, should be done on an offline computer in best case.
https://tezos.com/pwcheck.html can be used that way.
legendary
Activity: 2124
Merit: 1013
K-ing®
June 01, 2018, 04:00:06 AM
2 everyone

!!! be careful on which pages you enter/check your password!!!
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
June 01, 2018, 03:57:56 AM
This is something I didn't pay attention to until I saw this tweet:
https://twitter.com/andimule/status/1002183031342469120

Fortunately I found all necessary infos but maybe more out of luck. I don't remember if I knew how important email-address and password are to access the funds. I've read on reddit that there are many who will probably have no access to their funds because they've made a mistake with the password - lost it. The only way to have a chance in such a case seems to be brute-force.

Some blame it totally to the Investors, pointing on the big red warnings on the crowdfunding-site. But those warnings were not there in the first ICO-site-version but added later. I know that for sure because I still have the first version that I used on an offline computer. 

Those who may still don't know about the importance of all informations, including email and password, should check it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tezos/comments/6lvw0r/howto_check_your_password/

legendary
Activity: 2124
Merit: 1013
K-ing®
June 01, 2018, 03:41:43 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?

they will transfer it when XTZ will be listed
full member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 217
https://lifinity.io/
June 01, 2018, 03:37:24 AM
What will happen for the IOU holder on HitBTC?
the IOU TZX will be automatically transformed in real TZX?

Which would mean that the exchange participated in the ICO. But what happens if it doesn't?
legendary
Activity: 2124
Merit: 1013
K-ing®
June 01, 2018, 12:33:37 AM
I see tezos MC between EOS and BCH.
Prices on HITBTC and GATE.IO are not high, just 3x ROI
legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 8633
Crypto Swap Exchange
May 31, 2018, 05:30:45 AM
That is big news and if say one of the most awaited update will not be exaggeration at all. Lot of people are waiting for the launch to buy or sell for months. I think this first time when we see official news stating this clear about beta net release. It will be great to see this happening in June when many project have big plans with their projects.

Many people joined crypto after the end of the official ico, they will sure be happy to buy some, in case someone really is going to sell. Most people longer in the space won´t make the some mistake again selling too early, like many did with ETH for 20$

that's right.
i will definitely hold my 6000 XTZ until the end of 2018  Cool

I'm planning to hold it as long as possible while taking baking rewards, hope this will be huge  Cheesy

What is the ratio, without bonus?

1ETH = 500XTZ?
 
It was ever so. no? this "donation" isn't new

1 BTC = 6000 Tezos with bonus. And 5000 Tezos per BTC without any bonus. (1 BTC / 5000 XTZ => 1 XTZ = 0.00020000 BTC)

and currently the XTZ (IOU) tokens are traded on huobi at 65000 sats ...  Smiley

Huobi is taking advantage of the situation. People who missed to be part of the crowdsale will surely try to get their hands before the launch. Will there be a dump or pump when launched and will IOU investors be in profit?

Not Huobi but Hitbtc  Cheesy
I think we'll see Tezos in top 10 in short period of time, then top 5. So I think current IOU price is not high IMO.

ahh, ok.
it was my failure  Grin

i think it too. we can see Tezos in top 10 longterm
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 102
May 31, 2018, 05:16:38 AM
That is big news and if say one of the most awaited update will not be exaggeration at all. Lot of people are waiting for the launch to buy or sell for months. I think this first time when we see official news stating this clear about beta net release. It will be great to see this happening in June when many project have big plans with their projects.

Many people joined crypto after the end of the official ico, they will sure be happy to buy some, in case someone really is going to sell. Most people longer in the space won´t make the some mistake again selling too early, like many did with ETH for 20$

that's right.
i will definitely hold my 6000 XTZ until the end of 2018  Cool

I'm planning to hold it as long as possible while taking baking rewards, hope this will be huge  Cheesy

What is the ratio, without bonus?

1ETH = 500XTZ?
 
It was ever so. no? this "donation" isn't new

1 BTC = 6000 Tezos with bonus. And 5000 Tezos per BTC without any bonus. (1 BTC / 5000 XTZ => 1 XTZ = 0.00020000 BTC)

and currently the XTZ (IOU) tokens are traded on huobi at 65000 sats ...  Smiley

Huobi is taking advantage of the situation. People who missed to be part of the crowdsale will surely try to get their hands before the launch. Will there be a dump or pump when launched and will IOU investors be in profit?

Not Huobi but Hitbtc  Cheesy
I think we'll see Tezos in top 10 in short period of time, then top 5. So I think current IOU price is not high IMO.
hero member
Activity: 886
Merit: 500
May 31, 2018, 05:07:48 AM
That is big news and if say one of the most awaited update will not be exaggeration at all. Lot of people are waiting for the launch to buy or sell for months. I think this first time when we see official news stating this clear about beta net release. It will be great to see this happening in June when many project have big plans with their projects.

Many people joined crypto after the end of the official ico, they will sure be happy to buy some, in case someone really is going to sell. Most people longer in the space won´t make the some mistake again selling too early, like many did with ETH for 20$

that's right.
i will definitely hold my 6000 XTZ until the end of 2018  Cool

I'm planning to hold it as long as possible while taking baking rewards, hope this will be huge  Cheesy

What is the ratio, without bonus?

1ETH = 500XTZ?
 
It was ever so. no? this "donation" isn't new

1 BTC = 6000 Tezos with bonus. And 5000 Tezos per BTC without any bonus. (1 BTC / 5000 XTZ => 1 XTZ = 0.00020000 BTC)

and currently the XTZ (IOU) tokens are traded on huobi at 65000 sats ...  Smiley

Huobi is taking advantage of the situation. People who missed to be part of the crowdsale will surely try to get their hands before the launch. Will there be a dump or pump when launched and will IOU investors be in profit?
legendary
Activity: 3304
Merit: 8633
Crypto Swap Exchange
May 31, 2018, 05:00:48 AM
That is big news and if say one of the most awaited update will not be exaggeration at all. Lot of people are waiting for the launch to buy or sell for months. I think this first time when we see official news stating this clear about beta net release. It will be great to see this happening in June when many project have big plans with their projects.

Many people joined crypto after the end of the official ico, they will sure be happy to buy some, in case someone really is going to sell. Most people longer in the space won´t make the some mistake again selling too early, like many did with ETH for 20$

that's right.
i will definitely hold my 6000 XTZ until the end of 2018  Cool

I'm planning to hold it as long as possible while taking baking rewards, hope this will be huge  Cheesy

What is the ratio, without bonus?

1ETH = 500XTZ?
 
It was ever so. no? this "donation" isn't new

1 BTC = 6000 Tezos with bonus. And 5000 Tezos per BTC without any bonus. (1 BTC / 5000 XTZ => 1 XTZ = 0.00020000 BTC)

and currently the XTZ (IOU) tokens are traded on huobi at 65000 sats ...  Smiley
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 102
May 31, 2018, 04:26:46 AM
That is big news and if say one of the most awaited update will not be exaggeration at all. Lot of people are waiting for the launch to buy or sell for months. I think this first time when we see official news stating this clear about beta net release. It will be great to see this happening in June when many project have big plans with their projects.

Many people joined crypto after the end of the official ico, they will sure be happy to buy some, in case someone really is going to sell. Most people longer in the space won´t make the some mistake again selling too early, like many did with ETH for 20$

that's right.
i will definitely hold my 6000 XTZ until the end of 2018  Cool

I'm planning to hold it as long as possible while taking baking rewards, hope this will be huge  Cheesy

What is the ratio, without bonus?

1ETH = 500XTZ?
 
It was ever so. no? this "donation" isn't new

1 BTC = 6000 Tezos with bonus. And 5000 Tezos per BTC without any bonus. (1 BTC / 5000 XTZ => 1 XTZ = 0.00020000 BTC)
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 118
May 31, 2018, 04:01:53 AM
tezos is alive again. Awaiting news.
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