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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?
They couldn't stop illegal gambling, so why not legalize it? This is a smart decision by the PM. Not only would the government benefit from the taxes generated from gambling, but it would also eradicate the illegal gambling business. Legal operators will work to eliminate illegal operators to ensure their own profits increase. It will then be the government's job to enforce the law by arresting those who operate illegally, which would force them to operate legally. So the strategy is very simple, force the illegal operators to get permits and operates legally, that way their taxes will increase.
I would say that if you keep legalizing everything that you can't stop, the result will not be all that amazing. I am not saying that they shouldn't because gambling isn't that much of a terrible vice, but it is still a bad precedent. Think about it, if they can't stop cocaine users, should they just legalize it? Of course not, and nobody would say that, and of course I do not compare the two together, they are of course not the same.

I am just saying that we are talking about something that is totally different, and should be looking some other way if we could. That is why I believe that the best thing to do right now would be just realizing you are not going to get anything good by legalizing whatever you can't stop.
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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?
There are always two sides to consider rather than just state income. If countries really want to legalize gambling - then they must also consider how to deal with the impact of gambling which will likely only increase since it is legalized.

I have even heard that a country that has legalized gambling is campaigning to no longer allow gambling promotion in public and is also limiting the amount of budget that gambler can use each month. The positive is of course good for state revenue - but the negative is that the impact of gambling is likely to increase rapidly and need appropriate handling.

This is also one of the positive impacts of legalizing gambling.  The government will be responsible for the outcome of their action in terms of gambling activities.  Unlike when gambling is illegal, people cannot blame the government since they are not responsible for the gambling activities and can have an excuse of blaming the fault on people who engage in gambling because they already forbid it in the first place.

With the government supporting gambling activities, citizens can put more pressure on the government to be responsible for preventing and controlling gambling addiction.  This is also one of the reasons why countries that legalized gambling work hard on thinking and implementing several ways to control gambling addiction and its citizen's spending towards its gambling activities.
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There are always two sides to consider rather than just state income. If countries really want to legalize gambling - then they must also consider how to deal with the impact of gambling which will likely only increase since it is legalized.
I agree, it's not only about the income that they'll get from it but there is going to be the after effect of it. So, if they're going to legalize those illegal gambling places and they'll take their income taxes then that's good for that establishment as they don't need to operate with a scared heart anymore. Whilst for the government, there has to be a plan about the effect of it that there might be more gamblers that will suffer later on with the effect of gambling addiction.

They need to put that in might but I guess that they will capitalize on that situation and have foreseen it coming. As of now, they're going to focus first in labeling most of these illegal casinos and make them comply to the rules that they have so they will be now authorized and legal. I wonder how big it will impact to the lives of the people there and how much is going to be the percentage of the gamblers that will become addicted due to this policy because it means that more gamblers are going to flock from every gambling place there.
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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?
There are always two sides to consider rather than just state income. If countries really want to legalize gambling - then they must also consider how to deal with the impact of gambling which will likely only increase since it is legalized.

I have even heard that a country that has legalized gambling is campaigning to no longer allow gambling promotion in public and is also limiting the amount of budget that gambler can use each month. The positive is of course good for state revenue - but the negative is that the impact of gambling is likely to increase rapidly and need appropriate handling.
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I read an article about Thailand's Prime Minister planning to legalize gambling in order to combat illegal gambling.  He also stated that the illegal gambling operation are earning trillions of baht but are not contributing to the nation.  Read more about the news here
I believe the Thai PM realized that they are losing for not making gambling legal in their country.  I believe it is not to combat the illegal gambling but rather to take advantage of the gambling activities to get more taxes to fund the country's treasury.  It was said that if gambling is legalized the country might bring an amount ranging from TBH30B to TBH50B (US$0.8bn to US$1.3bn) in investments to the country aside from the annual taxes that can be earned from gambling industries.

I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?

I think the reason why the prime minister is taking such a huge step in legalizing gaming to to make sure that gamblers start paying taxes including gambling companies would must have been operating at the back and not allowing the government knows that they are functioning. This might be a good innovation per say if this is not going to increase criminal activities and make people start doing more to gambler increasing individual addiction especially when they could not have control of their gambling decisions or gambling too excessively.
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Anyways, looking like the Thailand prime minister have realized what they are losing by not taxing gambling companies and have decided to correct it, kudos to him and the entire country.
That's a better decision indeed. If they're losing by not taxing those gambling companies that are illegally operating. It is best for them to have some relief that they're willing to list and register them under their government so that they won't be classified anymore as an illegal operating gambling company and the tax shall go to the national government and Thailand will be able to benefit from it too.

It is about time for their government to act on this long overdue regulation protocol towards gambling. I have been on this country and their people really have high regards to their PM or their royal government. Do take note that you can be imprisoned if you talk bad about their King or insult the King and his other Regents. Also, they have very different approach on some matters.

Anyway, with this realization, they may be open to online gambling in the future. Online gambling in this country is illegal as far as I know. With the change of heart, they may soon unblock those online gambling sites and find a way how to get tax from this business.


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Yeah, I know that fact about talking bad about their leader or royal family. Well, wherever you go, you need to be respectful to them whether you're a local or a tourist. And I didn't know that gambling there online is illegal but as you've said, they might also give it a go signal whenever when they're done with it. So, I guess that's how it is going to be when they're able to tax first the illegal casinos and soon, the online casinos that have been patronized by their locals and tourists.
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Thailand main income is from tourism, and I think legalize gambling is a wise decision by the Thai gov to bring more income for the country.
I mean why not, because prostitution and marijuana are also legal there  Tongue
Yep, Thailand is a business minded country and they allow all those things which most countries doesn't allow. Legalizing gambling could be another game changer for them and with that they can earn some extra profits from the gambling sites and they may impose gambling related taxes to maximize their profits.

Thailand is hub for all those people who want to enjoy their life especially they want to visit Bangkok at least once in their life. It's not really needed to explain in detail that why tourists want to visit Bangkok because almost everyone knows that, and surely tourism is the best source of income for Thailand without any doubt, but maybe from now own gambling may also generate revenue for that country.
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Well, for the country where gambling is legalized, it contributes in generating  revenue for the country through the tax that those casinos are paying. With the new enacted law in some country according to news,  some country made it compulsory for gamblera to pay tax too. So, gambling is really generating revenue and it's  not a bad idea at all that the prime minister of Thailand decided to approve gambling  in the country. The idea  is not to only stop illegal gambling, definitely the government will big in  a big advantage too, because those casinos will be taxed.  I don't even know the reason why any country will ban gambling, meanwhile it's a fun activity that can benefit the country.

True gambling industry both generates tax revenue from the gambling host and gamblers which is very favorable to the government.  Aside from these taxes, they also generates jobs to the citizen from the infrastructure construction to customer service jobs which in addition creates more tax to the government.

What is more appealing is that many gambling companies pledge donations to charity institutions which further help support people who are in need.  In my country, the gambling industry is one of the major supporters of charity institutions.  They provide donations and financial support to people who need funding for their medical care and many other stuff.

Indeed, the gambling sector does play its role in significantly contributing towards tax revenues and job opportunities, two vital aspects for any government. But as much as we talk about numbers, let's not forget those social contributions; those donations to charitable institutions that often come out of the industry's pockets. It may always be a topic for debate, but truth be told: the gambling industry does have a positive real effect on society plus government, irrespective of how it is looked at.

Moreover, the gambling industry, through contributions like infrastructure development and job creation in hospitality, restaurants, and entertainment sectors, elevator local economies which consequently enhances the standard of living for people within those vicinities.

Nevertheless, it is also important to effectively manage and supervise this sector in a smart way so as not to eliminate the negative impact, gambling addiction. With proper regulation and with social responsibility taken by gambling companies, the flow of benefits to the economy and society through this industry will continue to expand plus support society meaningfully in a sustainable manner.
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Thais have to go to Malaysia, Singapore or Vietnam if they want to gamble legally at land based casinos, also there are no regulations regarding online casinos that can operate there.
Thailand main income is from tourism, and I think legalize gambling is a wise decision by the Thai gov to bring more income for the country.
I mean why not, because prostitution and marijuana are also legal there  Tongue
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Well, for the country where gambling is legalized, it contributes in generating  revenue for the country through the tax that those casinos are paying. With the new enacted law in some country according to news,  some country made it compulsory for gamblera to pay tax too. So, gambling is really generating revenue and it's  not a bad idea at all that the prime minister of Thailand decided to approve gambling  in the country. The idea  is not to only stop illegal gambling, definitely the government will big in  a big advantage too, because those casinos will be taxed.  I don't even know the reason why any country will ban gambling, meanwhile it's a fun activity that can benefit the country.

True gambling industry both generates tax revenue from the gambling host and gamblers which is very favorable to the government.  Aside from these taxes, they also generates jobs to the citizen from the infrastructure construction to customer service jobs which in addition creates more tax to the government.

What is more appealing is that many gambling companies pledge donations to charity institutions which further help support people who are in need.  In my country, the gambling industry is one of the major supporters of charity institutions.  They provide donations and financial support to people who need funding for their medical care and many other stuff.
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Well, for the country where gambling is legalized, it contributes in generating  revenue for the country through the tax that those casinos are paying. With the new enacted law in some country according to news,  some country made it compulsory for gamblera to pay tax too. So, gambling is really generating revenue and it's  not a bad idea at all that the prime minister of Thailand decided to approve gambling  in the country. The idea  is not to only stop illegal gambling, definitely the government will big in  a big advantage too, because those casinos will be taxed.  I don't even know the reason why any country will ban gambling, meanwhile it's a fun activity that can benefit the country.
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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?


They couldn't stop illegal gambling, so why not legalize it? This is a smart decision by the PM. Not only would the government benefit from the taxes generated from gambling, but it would also eradicate the illegal gambling business. Legal operators will work to eliminate illegal operators to ensure their own profits increase. It will then be the government's job to enforce the law by arresting those who operate illegally, which would force them to operate legally. So the strategy is very simple, force the illegal operators to get permits and operates legally, that way their taxes will increase.
Indeed, many countries regularly carry out plans to sweep local areas to completely eliminate illegal casinos, but after all, the revival of these casinos is too simple, instead of spending a lot of resources on such plans, a system of legalizing casinos would save more but once legalized, it also has some impact on society. Besides, tax details also need to be divided properly because quite a few casinos always complain about tax rates, which leads to the spontaneous creation of illegal casinos.
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My opinion.  Banning Gambling is as useful as banning Porn.  They can try, but as they found out themselves no body will follow the rule particularly if nothing immoral is implied through the action or no body gets any damage out of it besides the Customer.

The government wont' benefit in legalizing porn but they'll get big money when they legalize gambling, so that's the big difference. Well, in my view, watching porn is a sin but gambling isn't, I mean everyday we are like gambling especially if we enter into business, so we need to understand that everything we do that involves money as a risk, in fact, gambling as been my training ground on why I believe more matured in managing my finances.
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I agree with the Thailand PM, there's a lot of money out there flowing without any of it going to the country treasury, this doesn't just happen in Thailand, this also happens in our country (Indonesia),
That issue right there is actually a global one and this is not only limited to gambling but it also exist in other fields.

here gambling is an illegal thing to do, for this reason not a single gambling company or platform is allowed to exist legally.
Didn't knew that gambling is also illegal there but it is worse than Thailand now, although maybe other governments will also look forward on trying the solution done by Thailand. You can only hope, pray and wait for that. It's not an excuse to opt for the illegal ones just because there are no legal ones that exist yet, but if we realize the effects of doing this, I think we can also stop on supporting them. It is also risky in our side because authorities are regularly roving and doing a clearing operation, and those who are involved in it will get punished accordingly.

in fact in these countries the only way to regulate this is to legalize it so as not to give the possibility to any mafias or illegal activities to proliferate within the state, then we know well how prohibitionism works, we know how it went in America with alcohol and in Europe whoever limits something then people will always find a way to do it illegally so that's why they would do better to make it legal and regulate the money flows of these activities
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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?
If you do not let your citizens to gamble, you are only deceiving yourself because gambling is in the nature of humans. That is why you will see the citizens of the countries where gambling is not legal going to foreign gambling sites to gamble. It is good that Thailand government see this now and know that they should legalize gambling and generate tax from it. Buddhism religion do not totally forbids gambling while they do not also totally support it.
The Thai PM took a very logical decision, so that huge costs went into the state treasury. The Thai PM realized that the flow of gambling funds was greater than the country annual income. If this sector is controlled or given space to operate, legal gambling will also choose to follow because there is freedom to operate so they can maximize income. In other words, the government and the casinos both make a profit, the casinos operate freely wherever they want with guaranteed oversight and the government profits from it. I think casinos in Thailand are slowly choosing to cooperate rather than be eradicated.
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I agree with the Thailand PM, there's a lot of money out there flowing without any of it going to the country treasury, this doesn't just happen in Thailand, this also happens in our country (Indonesia),
That issue right there is actually a global one and this is not only limited to gambling but it also exist in other fields.

here gambling is an illegal thing to do, for this reason not a single gambling company or platform is allowed to exist legally.
Didn't knew that gambling is also illegal there but it is worse than Thailand now, although maybe other governments will also look forward on trying the solution done by Thailand. You can only hope, pray and wait for that. It's not an excuse to opt for the illegal ones just because there are no legal ones that exist yet, but if we realize the effects of doing this, I think we can also stop on supporting them. It is also risky in our side because authorities are regularly roving and doing a clearing operation, and those who are involved in it will get punished accordingly.
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This makes me remember an article, or a meme (?) about Portugal and its effort to combat drug addiction. CMIIW. Not sure how effective it will be to combat illegal gambling or gambling addiction since the nature is quite different, it is also too soon to know how exactly the legal framework works. If obtaining a license or operating the business is quite restrictive, maybe the number of illegal businesses will stay the same.
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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?


They couldn't stop illegal gambling, so why not legalize it? This is a smart decision by the PM. Not only would the government benefit from the taxes generated from gambling, but it would also eradicate the illegal gambling business. Legal operators will work to eliminate illegal operators to ensure their own profits increase. It will then be the government's job to enforce the law by arresting those who operate illegally, which would force them to operate legally. So the strategy is very simple, force the illegal operators to get permits and operates legally, that way their taxes will increase.

Yeah indeed a smart decision to boost up their economy since by accepting another industry to operate in their country will make them earn addition funds to help their economy to grow. Although there maybe a lot of concerns regarding the welfare of their citizens towards gambling addiction. Then for sure that Thailand government know what they are doing and for provably that before making their plans and drop a decisions towards this they have good study done to combat certain addiction and other negative concerns of people.

For that action they do for sure that those illegal operators will be done since provably people would choose to gamble on government allowed casinos and those businesses owned by illegal operators will be down since no one will trust them for that matters. This is only assumptions so hopefully we can see pure good effects of this decisions done by their government and we will not get a news that there are so many people got addicted on gambling in Thailand.
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I believe the Thai PM realized that they are losing for not making gambling legal in their country.  I believe it is not to combat the illegal gambling but rather to take advantage of the gambling activities to get more taxes to fund the country's treasury.
If there is a thing or two I learned about Governments, one of them is that they do not care about our Safety as much as they publicly try to make it look like.  They care only as long as there is a personal interest implicated too.

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My opinion.  Banning Gambling is as useful as banning Porn.  They can try, but as they found out themselves no body will follow the rule particularly if nothing immoral is implied through the action or no body gets any damage out of it besides the Customer.
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I also think that it is a wise decision on the PM side since it is impossible to stop gambling, so why not take advantage of it for the country's development?  Your thought?
If you do not let your citizens to gamble, you are only deceiving yourself because gambling is in the nature of humans. That is why you will see the citizens of the countries where gambling is not legal going to foreign gambling sites to gamble. It is good that Thailand government see this now and know that they should legalize gambling and generate tax from it. Buddhism religion do not totally forbids gambling while they do not also totally support it.
Inputting such an illegal gambling policy does not actually guarantee that the masses within the environs will not gamble.

There really online casino gambling by which gamblers can always have access to gambling while in the terrain through the foreign gambling sites and if the government tries to bridge the citizens on that by internet IPs, they can always use a VPN to gain the access.

So, the government will only end up following itselves and not stopping the citizens from gambling.
Although such policy can only minimize the number of active gamblers due to fear to face the law.

But since this Thailand PM has realized its loopholes of slacks, it is a good one to had think otherwise on how they can legalize gambling and make good national utilizations out of it.
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