Topic: That Great Big Beautiful Wall - page 3. (Read 2934 times)
well i think we have to wait till they buy enterely that wall, they cant closed a border in that way
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It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
Well, ya.
But not just the USA. Looks like the same underlying dynamic is at work in Europe.
Look in the direction of George Soros.
"Look in the direction" ... I didn't mean "blame it all on..."
Soros is the major proponent of Open Borders, funding many such efforts, above and below the table.
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It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
Well, ya.
But not just the USA. Looks like the same underlying dynamic is at work in Europe.
Look in the direction of George Soros.
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It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
Well, ya.
But not just the USA. Looks like the same underlying dynamic is at work in Europe.
Look in the direction of George Soros.
It seems to me that the wall between America and Mexico will never be. Besides, if you can not go by land, migrants will be on the water. Or Trump will build a wall along the coast of the ocean. Trump is a stupid man, therefore, offering such a stupid decision problems.
....meanwhile, a lot of people in Europe wish they had a wall....I read Huntington's Clash of Civilizations years ago. He remarked that America is lucky that 2 of it's largest immigrant groups are easy to assimilate - Mexicans (Catholic, Spanish-speaking) and Filipinos (Catholic, English-speaking). East Asians tend to value their own distinctive culture but they're not very religious anyway (and also tend to be model citizens).
Europe really had it bad with the immigrants they got which comes from a totally different culture and practicing a religion that is pretty much antagonistic to Europe's native faith. I would somehow like to blame humanism but then again it has brought us some progress. I'll chuck up their inability to recognize the threat to their history - save for Iberia, they never experienced Muslim occupation.
No wonder the first ones to put up fences are East Europeans. They've seen the Ottomans. Once bitten, twice shy.
To the OP, you're talking like a wall doesn't already exist. A wall along the Mexico border already exists for hundreds of miles. Trumps proposal tries to complete the wall that Bush jr. started. And controversy from the public comes from how Trump communicated his proposal and "the why" he used to claim that Mexicans are providing negative impact on society.
I think this is a colossal waste of money. I'm not for illegal immigration but it's clear that illegal immigrants aren't stealing the jobs that voters are concerned about. They're filling the jobs that people don't want to do. I wonder how many former factory workers that voted for Trump will be willing to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms if/when illegal immigrants are forced out?
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
You mean that bricklayers, concrete crews, stone masons, sheetrock crews, painters, lawn maintenance....Americans don't want that work? They wanted it until illegal Mexicans that did not pay taxes pulled these entire trades and a hundred others out of reach of the honest American.I think this is a colossal waste of money. I'm not for illegal immigration but it's clear that illegal immigrants aren't stealing the jobs that voters are concerned about. They're filling the jobs that people don't want to do. I wonder how many former factory workers that voted for Trump will be willing to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms if/when illegal immigrants are forced out?
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
Please stop with the broad generalizations. They don't further understanding of an issue.
The illegal criminal aliens have not only taken over industries with very good jobs, because their criminal employers found it was cheaper to give them low wages and no benefits, then the government intentionally didn't enforce our immigration laws for a couple of decades.
They have also been bringing in a lot of drug resident diseases that we didn't have here.
Killing citizens with their diseases.
Would you like drug resistant TB with your fries or your produce?
Thats not even including all of the hardened criminals and yes terrorist that are coming in over our southern border, from all over the world.
The wall will be built, our border patrol will finally be allowed to do their jobs, and all of these illegal criminals need to be deported.
I don't care where you are from, if you snuck in, or overstayed a visa.
It's time for you to take your ass home where you belong.
The politicians on capital hill have been for amnesty for a long time, so yes it will be a fight.
We will replace all of them also if we need to.
A wall, just like a door is just part of our border security.
Someone can break into your home also, that doesn't mean you don't close and lock the door as a deterrent and to give you time to grab your gun.
Or call the police if you want to be a victim.
It's all a process.
It is the criminal governments of the U.S. owned by the corporations that have promoted the presence of not only illegal but legal immigrants as well. All for their own profit and at the expense of it`s citizens.
To the OP, you're talking like a wall doesn't already exist. A wall along the Mexico border already exists for hundreds of miles. Trumps proposal tries to complete the wall that Bush jr. started. And controversy from the public comes from how Trump communicated his proposal and "the why" he used to claim that Mexicans are providing negative impact on society.
I think this is a colossal waste of money. I'm not for illegal immigration but it's clear that illegal immigrants aren't stealing the jobs that voters are concerned about. They're filling the jobs that people don't want to do. I wonder how many former factory workers that voted for Trump will be willing to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms if/when illegal immigrants are forced out?
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
You mean that bricklayers, concrete crews, stone masons, sheetrock crews, painters, lawn maintenance....Americans don't want that work? They wanted it until illegal Mexicans that did not pay taxes pulled these entire trades and a hundred others out of reach of the honest American.I think this is a colossal waste of money. I'm not for illegal immigration but it's clear that illegal immigrants aren't stealing the jobs that voters are concerned about. They're filling the jobs that people don't want to do. I wonder how many former factory workers that voted for Trump will be willing to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms if/when illegal immigrants are forced out?
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
Please stop with the broad generalizations. They don't further understanding of an issue.
The illegal criminal aliens have not only taken over industries with very good jobs, because their criminal employers found it was cheaper to give them low wages and no benefits, then the government intentionally didn't enforce our immigration laws for a couple of decades.
They have also been bringing in a lot of drug resident diseases that we didn't have here.
Killing citizens with their diseases.
Would you like drug resistant TB with your fries or your produce?
Thats not even including all of the hardened criminals and yes terrorist that are coming in over our southern border, from all over the world.
The wall will be built, our border patrol will finally be allowed to do their jobs, and all of these illegal criminals need to be deported.
I don't care where you are from, if you snuck in, or overstayed a visa.
It's time for you to take your ass home where you belong.
The politicians on capital hill have been for amnesty for a long time, so yes it will be a fight.
We will replace all of them also if we need to.
A wall, just like a door is just part of our border security.
Someone can break into your home also, that doesn't mean you don't close and lock the door as a deterrent and to give you time to grab your gun.
Or call the police if you want to be a victim.
It's all a process.
I think that wall is just a warning for the ilegal inmigrant inside US, its just a expression to caused fear and sop the huge amount of ilegal mexicans into the border.
The flow of illegal Mexicans must be stopped. They are not paying the taxes, and they are exploiting the welfare system by claiming child benefits for their dozens of children. Cheap labor is good, as long as they are legal.
It seems to me that the wall between America and Mexico will never be. Besides, if you can not go by land, migrants will be on the water. Or Trump will build a wall along the coast of the ocean. Trump is a stupid man, therefore, offering such a stupid decision problems.
....meanwhile, a lot of people in Europe wish they had a wall.... 
I think that wall is just a warning for the ilegal inmigrant inside US, its just a expression to caused fear and sop the huge amount of ilegal mexicans into the border.
The flow of illegal Mexicans must be stopped. They are not paying the taxes, and they are exploiting the welfare system by claiming child benefits for their dozens of children. Cheap labor is good, as long as they are legal.
It seems to me that the wall between America and Mexico will never be. Besides, if you can not go by land, migrants will be on the water. Or Trump will build a wall along the coast of the ocean. Trump is a stupid man, therefore, offering such a stupid decision problems.
Let Americans waste their money. Yes, THEIR money. I can't believe they actually thought some other country is going to pay far that stupid wall. 
Let Trump spends his money on that wall. Such a crazy idea could arise only in his sick head.What if Trump hires and fires thousands of contractors to build the wall and does not pay them for their work!!
Or he funds the wall by himself and goes broke
I don't think he'll ever fund it with his own money. More likely he'll just get people to build it - and then not pay them. He's done that before and wouldn't have paid the contractors had it not been revealed during the campaign. Abominable.
Last I heard in the news, it was a Mexican company who said they'll build the wall. Maybe that's how Trump will get Mexicans to pay for it? "Oh no, I'm not paying you, that wall is to keep you out of beautiful Murica."
I think that wall is just a warning for the ilegal inmigrant inside US, its just a expression to caused fear and sop the huge amount of ilegal mexicans into the border.
This is what I was thinking as too when I first heard of this wall being built.It is just an imaginary wall that is just in the american physe an nothing more.
To the OP, you're talking like a wall doesn't already exist. A wall along the Mexico border already exists for hundreds of miles. Trumps proposal tries to complete the wall that Bush jr. started. And controversy from the public comes from how Trump communicated his proposal and "the why" he used to claim that Mexicans are providing negative impact on society.
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
Oh, I'm definitely aware of the 'fence' we currently have, courtesy of Bush. That's what the 1.5b appropriated by Congress would go to, repairing and expanding the 'wall' already in place. It was a shit idea back then, at the worst time, economically.
And the effects of our new immigration policy arr already evident. Produce has gone up (mangoes are oddly cheap though), and I'm not seeing the crews I'm used to when I drive past the colossal farms in my neighborhood.
And yes, a wall will never stop a terrorist; the whole point of terrorism is to penetrate and disturb. And, a criminal would be pretty fucking dumb to just stroll up to the border.
Anything else you'd like to say?
There must be a lot of other similar things that are ridiculous and frustrating and that you'd like to put out for everyone to hear.
Why not just rant?
1.5B for the wall, more money is coming, some like it, some don't.
Given the war zone along the US / Mexican border, might I suggest reconsidering the cynicism?
There's nothing nice about it but the likes of your attitude is defeat before the battle begins. That's the problem with ideological thinking, it does not take into account real live humans and their suffering and problems.
To the OP, you're talking like a wall doesn't already exist. A wall along the Mexico border already exists for hundreds of miles. Trumps proposal tries to complete the wall that Bush jr. started. And controversy from the public comes from how Trump communicated his proposal and "the why" he used to claim that Mexicans are providing negative impact on society.
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
Oh, I'm definitely aware of the 'fence' we currently have, courtesy of Bush. That's what the 1.5b appropriated by Congress would go to, repairing and expanding the 'wall' already in place. It was a shit idea back then, at the worst time, economically.
And the effects of our new immigration policy arr already evident. Produce has gone up (mangoes are oddly cheap though), and I'm not seeing the crews I'm used to when I drive past the colossal farms in my neighborhood.
And yes, a wall will never stop a terrorist; the whole point of terrorism is to penetrate and disturb. And, a criminal would be pretty fucking dumb to just stroll up to the border.
Actually, the wall is the first of many to be used to keep Americans in so they don't pollute the world with their freedom ideas.
To the OP, you're talking like a wall doesn't already exist. A wall along the Mexico border already exists for hundreds of miles. Trumps proposal tries to complete the wall that Bush jr. started. And controversy from the public comes from how Trump communicated his proposal and "the why" he used to claim that Mexicans are providing negative impact on society.
I think this is a colossal waste of money. I'm not for illegal immigration but it's clear that illegal immigrants aren't stealing the jobs that voters are concerned about. They're filling the jobs that people don't want to do. I wonder how many former factory workers that voted for Trump will be willing to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms if/when illegal immigrants are forced out?
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
You mean that bricklayers, concrete crews, stone masons, sheetrock crews, painters, lawn maintenance....Americans don't want that work? They wanted it until illegal Mexicans that did not pay taxes pulled these entire trades and a hundred others out of reach of the honest American.I think this is a colossal waste of money. I'm not for illegal immigration but it's clear that illegal immigrants aren't stealing the jobs that voters are concerned about. They're filling the jobs that people don't want to do. I wonder how many former factory workers that voted for Trump will be willing to wash dishes and clean hotel rooms if/when illegal immigrants are forced out?
The wall won't prevent terrorism either.
Please stop with the broad generalizations. They don't further understanding of an issue.
I think that wall is just a warning for the ilegal inmigrant inside US, its just a expression to caused fear and sop the huge amount of ilegal mexicans into the border.
Let Americans waste their money. Yes, THEIR money. I can't believe they actually thought some other country is going to pay far that stupid wall.
Let Trump spends his money on that wall. Such a crazy idea could arise only in his sick head.Funny part is that Trump says 'they're gonna pay for it eventually', which we all know is not gonna happen. In the end the US citizens will pay for the wall, if it will ever come that is. A lot of republicans aren't very keen on the idea as well
Let Americans waste their money. Yes, THEIR money. I can't believe they actually thought some other country is going to pay far that stupid wall.
Let Trump spends his money on that wall. Such a crazy idea could arise only in his sick head.What if Trump hires and fires thousands of contractors to build the wall and does not pay them for their work!!
Or he funds the wall by himself and goes broke
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